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MacBytes
Jan 24, 2006, 12:06 PM
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Link: Microsoft Makes Its Move (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20060124130622)
Description:: When Microsoft invested a cool $1 billion in Comcast more than eight years ago, Chairman Bill Gates talked up a grand vision for a world of connected PCs and TVs.

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Orlando Furioso
Jan 24, 2006, 12:16 PM
IPTV? I've never even heard of this... could Microsoft be p***ing their money away?

I Pee TV?

(Sorry, that was really bad, and tasteless. I could not help myself. I'm immature and found it hilarious!)

24C
Jan 24, 2006, 12:23 PM
Maybe they are p*ssing their money away, either way that's a lot of money to be sitting on for eight years.:eek: Article didn't work for me.

winmacguy
Jan 24, 2006, 12:41 PM
IPTV? I've never even heard of this... could Microsoft be p***ing their money away?

I Pee TV?

(Sorry, that was really bad, and tasteless. I could not help myself. I'm immature and found it hilarious!)
Internet Protocol TV. Bit like VOIP but it is TV over the internet instead. The idea is you can watch or have a choice of unlimited TV channels when ever you want. Microsoft is effectively doing what Apple is about to achieve they are just going about it differently. I prefer Steve's method. Get each component right first and create your market then go out and bring them all together so that you control them and it all works rather than Bills way of throwing truckloads of cash at a broad range of ideas and then try and bring them all together and hope they work and try and make a market out of it. :rolleyes:

j_maddison
Jan 24, 2006, 12:41 PM
IPTV? I've never even heard of this... could Microsoft be p***ing their money away?

I Pee TV?

(Sorry, that was really bad, and tasteless. I could not help myself. I'm immature and found it hilarious!)

No their not. In fact Sky television bought out one of the larger ISP's in the UK recently in order to position itself to combat the increasing threat of IPTV.

Most large ISP's in the UK as well as the largest telecoms company in the UK, British Telecom, have been developing IPTV offerings for some time now. The main constraint holding back the industry is bandwidth.

Make no mistake, IPTV will be big money and soon. What will be interesting to see is whether Microsoft go down the multi or uni casting route.

Jason

SiliconAddict
Jan 24, 2006, 01:09 PM
Microsoft Makes Its Move

What they took a BM?

stoid
Jan 24, 2006, 01:12 PM
What they took a BM?

Yeah, most people prefer to call it "Windows" though.

nagromme
Jan 24, 2006, 01:32 PM
Not sure what made Beavis and Butthead want to check out this thread, but here they are :)
http://home.teleport.com/~rasputin/ImageFiles/BeavisButthead.jpg

ibook30
Jan 24, 2006, 01:55 PM
Not sure what made Beavis and Butthead want to check out this thread, but here they are :)
http://home.teleport.com/~rasputin/ImageFiles/BeavisButthead.jpg

(caption to add....)
Beavis- Hu hu - hu hu he said 'pee'
Butthead - Shut up Beavis, Now they're talking about BM's.....

Back on topic,,, I think it is inevitable that the digital living room will become a reality. Apple is positioned well with a strong rep for consumer electronics (that ipod thing) - Microsoft will have to do some work - but it would be fooolish not to take them seriously in this effort.

j_maddison
Jan 24, 2006, 06:46 PM
Back on topic,,, I think it is inevitable that the digital living room will become a reality. Apple is positioned well with a strong rep for consumer electronics (that ipod thing) - Microsoft will have to do some work - but it would be fooolish not to take them seriously in this effort.


Actually Microsoft could possibly be a much greater threat than Apple are in this market. Apples business strategy is centred around unicasting, as is most of the industry (Talking specificaly about the UK). There are very few players who are looking at multicasting in any great depth. If microsoft develop a sound business strategy centred around multicasting, Apple could find that they become a fringe player in the IPTV market. I guess it all centres around whether unicasting will win through as the prefered media distribution method.

Seeing as were all used to multicasts, televison broadcasts are multicasted, it stands to reason that a multicast proposition could prove to be the distribution method to back. At least in the short term anyway.

The advantage and disadvantage for Apple and other unicast backers is that in the initial instance unicasting has an advantage, in that bandwidth and contention ratio become the binding constraints. Where multicasting requires that the network be multicast enabled, BT's IP stream and datastream networks are not currently multicast enabled. This means that although the barriers to entry for multicasting are higher, if multicasting takes off as the dominant proposition then companies like Microsoft could find them selves being an integral part of the network. This means that their hold on the market could be cemented, and it would also put them in a prime position to control, or be a major player in, the tripple play market (TV, Internet, and VoIP).

I think it will be interesting to see what both Apple and Microsoft come up with, and whether they might both be caught out by an established or emerging player.

Jason