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Glenn Wolsey
Feb 1, 2006, 12:59 AM
What do you use to catalog your digital images?

I was using iPhoto 6, but today made the move to Aperture. I'm loving it so far, so many advanced features Apple's made so easy too use. It's truly amazing software - only in its first version.



bousozoku
Feb 1, 2006, 01:17 AM
I've been using Extensis Portfolio but it's such a pain that it's easier to keep track of them on my own, most of the time.

wwooden
Feb 1, 2006, 08:11 AM
i Use iPhoto, it is built for someone like me. I just want an easy way to load and view my images and tweak them a bit. I also like all the printing services, I use those quite a bit for presents, people love them.

FadeToBlack
Feb 1, 2006, 08:59 AM
I use iPhoto. iPhoto 6 is great! I love the full screen editing.

G4scott
Feb 1, 2006, 09:05 AM
Currently, I use Adobe Bridge to browse my serious photography, and I just keep them managed in folders, but I'm trying out Adobe Lightroom. It seems pretty nice, but it's just a beta version, and from what I hear, the fully developed version will be nothing like what it is now. If I had the money, I'd try Aperture, but I don't, and I'm not extremely serious about my photography, so it's not anything I really need.

I use iPhoto for all my other non-raw photos, and I've got quite a few at that. Last I tried, my Canon S50's raw format wasn't supported by iPhoto, and I prefer to use Adobe Raw to open and manage them.

iGary
Feb 1, 2006, 09:26 AM
Portfolio for the client, Aperture for me. ;)

aricher
Feb 1, 2006, 11:12 AM
Almost same as iGary - Portfolio for clients, currently iView for me. I'll upgrade to Aperture once the kinks are ironed out.

kwajo.com
Feb 1, 2006, 03:23 PM
Aperture and Adobe Bridge for me. haven't decided which I like better

iPhoto for my P&S and camera phone junk

Clix Pix
Feb 1, 2006, 09:30 PM
Was using Adobe Bridge until I purchased Aperture. Still getting used to Aperture but it's a very powerful program and I think it will more than meet my needs.

I also have downloaded the beta of Lightroom, but haven't played around in it too much yet, and after I installed iLife 06 experimented some with iPhoto, which up until now I had flat-out refused to use because of the limitations the earlier versions of the program had set on organization of one's images. I think I'll probably wind up using Aperture most of the time with iPhoto here-and-there for more casual shots.

G4scott
Feb 1, 2006, 10:31 PM
Aperture and Adobe Bridge for me. haven't decided which I like better

I would think Aperture is better for managing digital photos. Bridge was made as an all around file browser to work with all Adobe CS applications, and really has nothing specifically tailored for digital photography. That is why Adobe is creating Lightroom, so that they can have a product to compete with Aperture.

Glenn Wolsey
Feb 2, 2006, 04:19 PM
I would think Aperture is better for managing digital photos. Bridge was made as an all around file browser to work with all Adobe CS applications, and really has nothing specifically tailored for digital photography. That is why Adobe is creating Lightroom, so that they can have a product to compete with Aperture.

Lightroom won't go anywhere without crop...

Mitthrawnuruodo
Feb 2, 2006, 04:25 PM
Public Poll... nice... :)

I'm using iPhoto, for now. I'm not too happy about it, but it's there, it's convenient, and cheap... I probably will go for another solution later... so I'm most likely not upgrading to '06 anytime soon, (especially since the EDU price for iLife '06 is more than double what '05 used to be...)

FadeToBlack
Feb 2, 2006, 04:58 PM
Public Poll... nice... :)

I'm using iPhoto, for now. I'm not too happy about it, but it's there, it's convenient, and cheap... I probably will go for another solution later... so I'm most likely not upgrading to '06 anytime soon, (especially since the EDU price for iLife '06 is more than double what '05 used to be...)

You'd probably be a lot happier with iPhoto 6. I didn't upgrade to iLife '05, so I came straight from 4 to 6 and it's a huge improvement.

eXan
Feb 2, 2006, 05:21 PM
I voted for Aperture. Though its a bit rough right now, maybe in version 2.0 they'll fix a lot of current problems (like the ability to sync the library with iPod Photo & Video, make it's library available for use in iApps' Media Browser etc.)

Mitthrawnuruodo
Feb 2, 2006, 05:31 PM
You'd probably be a lot happier with iPhoto 6. I didn't upgrade to iLife '05, so I came straight from 4 to 6 and it's a huge improvement.The problem is space...

I'm struggleing to keep more than 6 GB free on my iBook's 60 GB HD, and I've heard some horror stories about the size of some of the apps in iLife '06. So, until I can afford a new laptop (or a desktop, that can double as file server for our laptops) I'm probably gonna use iPhoto for organizing and Photoshop (or maybe even Seashore) for editing.

Once I get a camera shooting RAW images, then the game changes... ;)

FadeToBlack
Feb 3, 2006, 01:37 AM
The problem is space...

I'm struggleing to keep more than 6 GB free on my iBook's 60 GB HD, and I've heard some horror stories about the size of some of the apps in iLife '06. So, until I can afford a new laptop (or a desktop, that can double as file server for our laptops) I'm probably gonna use iPhoto for organizing and Photoshop (or maybe even Seashore) for editing.

Once I get a camera shooting RAW images, then the game changes... ;)

Ahhh, I see. I only have a 60GB HD, too, but I don't have it nearly filled up yet. I have 27.2GB free. But yeah, iLife does take up a lot of space and if you're struggling to keep more than 6GB free, then you probably shouldn't upgrade. :D

Once you start taking RAW photos, you're probably gonna need a lot more space than 60GB. :D

Thomas S
Feb 4, 2006, 03:27 PM
I bought Aperture, but don't use it due to the fact that it doesn't support my Fuji S2 or my Nikon D200 :(.

Maybe there is a work-around for the S2, but right now I'm playing with the Adobe Lightroom beta and I personally think its pretty cool.

GoCubsGo
Mar 26, 2006, 12:42 AM
I'd like to know how Aperture compares to Lightroom. I only have lightroom so I can't speak for myself.

Caitlyn
Mar 26, 2006, 10:11 AM
Me too, Jessica. I'd love to hear some comparisons. Anyway, as of now, I use iPhoto 6, but I am considering purchasing Aperture.

Grimace
Mar 26, 2006, 10:24 AM
I currently use Aperture (love it 110%) and have played around with the Lightroom beta.

The Aperture interface seems cleaner and it handles RAW files faster. From what I've seen, Lightroom performs better on slower machines, and Aperture is the better performer on faster machines. (For both, more than 1GB RAM is a necessity.) 2GB of RAM can make up for a slower processor with digital photo editing.

GoCubsGo
Mar 26, 2006, 11:13 AM
I currently use Aperture (love it 110%) and have played around with the Lightroom beta.

The Aperture interface seems cleaner and it handles RAW files faster. From what I've seen, Lightroom performs better on slower machines, and Aperture is the better performer on faster machines. (For both, more than 1GB RAM is a necessity.) 2GB of RAM can make up for a slower processor with digital photo editing.
That is good to know. I only have a powerbook 1.67 so lightroom is my choice, but I know I'll be buying a powermac towards the end of the year or around this time next year so I want to keep up to date with the products and how they compare to one another.

ahunter3
Mar 26, 2006, 11:49 AM
FileMaker Pro

AmpedPhoto
Mar 27, 2006, 12:55 AM
lightroom for me

neut
Mar 27, 2006, 10:59 AM
iPhoto + CS2 (though, to open RAW in CS2 i have to find the actual SRF in Finder ... iPhoto converts it to JPEG).

Anyone know if Aperature supports Sony's RAW format (SRF)? I wasnt to use Aperature, but i do so much compisiting i'm not sure i can justify the cost ... though with more (better?) RAW options in the front end i could cut out some compositing.


peace | neut

ChrisA
Mar 27, 2006, 12:29 PM
What do you use to catalog your digital images?.

I'm using iPhoto. I found that you really need to develope a "system" with iPhoto and stick to it. My system makes full use of ketwords, comments and smart albums in folders.

I use Image capture to import the phots from the camera to a folder with a name like "2006_03_25". I'll delete the junk and then go to iPhoto and import the folder into iPhoto library. I tell it to copy the file into the library so now I have the files in two systems and so the files are backed up as part of the download/import process. Next I asign keywords, comments and rattings. and do a first pass at minor changes and crops.

NinjaMonkey
Mar 27, 2006, 12:39 PM
I use Lightroom and iPhoto 6.

I make edits to my RAW files in Lightroom, then convert to JPG and import to iPhoto. To save HD space I backup the RAW files periodically to an external HD and a DVD, then delete them off my machine.

This seems to work well for me for now. I'd love to try Aperture but I need a machine that can run it first.

SpAtZ
Mar 27, 2006, 01:56 PM
Aperture will be universal by the end of this month correct? Does any one have an idea of how well it will run on my mbp?

Glenn Wolsey
Mar 27, 2006, 02:25 PM
Aperture will be universal by the end of this month correct? Does any one have an idea of how well it will run on my mbp?

Depends on which MBP and the RAM & VideoCard..

SpAtZ
Mar 27, 2006, 02:37 PM
Hmm maybe the one in my signature was not specific enough.

15.4-inch TFT display with 1440x900 resolution
2.0GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 Cache
667MHz frontside bus
2GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory

Anyone think it is safe to get it here:http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Aperture-for-Professional-Photographers_W0QQitemZ9703961062QQcategoryZ3801QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

RockyOne
Feb 5, 2008, 04:04 PM
I am happy with iView and can find one pix out of the 18,500 in just a few secs. Have used it for five yrs at least. Now M/S own it, it still appears it will work on Mac's fine. After all,we pay our $ when necc. (Anyway, I like many, have Windows to use on my Intel MiniMac etc in Parallels for the odd occasion) I also play around with latest iPhoto but like iView because it does not have too many 'frills' just all the magic tools we need.What do you use to catalog your digital images?

I was using iPhoto 6, but today made the move to Aperture. I'm loving it so far, so many advanced features Apple's made so easy too use. It's truly amazing software - only in its first version.

disdat
Feb 5, 2008, 06:13 PM
haha, this is fun. An older poll, new for me though.

I am using the older version of iPhoto (06) - I find it suits my needs. I also use the iPhoto Library Manager app and it has made using iPhoto much more organized. I can easily switch libraries, which means I can archive older photos or photos I don't want to toss, but don't want cluttering my main libraries.

I don't think I will upgrade to iPhoto 08, just because it seems to have been "dumbed down"

Everythingisnt
Feb 5, 2008, 06:16 PM
Aperture, it's a solid program that meets all of my needs.

Digital Skunk
Feb 5, 2008, 06:24 PM
I voted for Aperture. Though its a bit rough right now, maybe in version 2.0 they'll fix a lot of current problems (like the ability to sync the library with iPod Photo & Video, make it's library available for use in iApps' Media Browser etc.)

The do that already. You can view your Aperture previews in all of the iApps media browsers, and if you set your library to be referenced you can access all of your images from just about any Application whatsoever, even Lightroom and not take up any more space than necessary.

I would like to sync my library with my iPod, but I kinda do that already since I reference the images. My list of improvements to Aperture mainly include offline image editing and an Aperture Lite that could be used for journalists. We usually have our images toned by someone else, all we need to do is look through them real quick to make selects, caption them, then upload a JPEG to the server. That last part is what Bridge and View NX can't do, so it's Photo Mechanic for now.

I use Bridge a lot to view my images, but may switch to View NX since it's more photo oriented, but doesn't have the ability to view anything but photos. Bridge gives me a look see at EVERYTHING. I love View NX because the UI is actually right on the mark for speed and simplicity, I hope Capture NX gets that, (I am going to give it another try).

Aperture for me. It may be slow for some, but it's a speed demon for me, and it's far more robust than any other app of it's kind (including the ones in this list, and many others that i have played with) The biggest kink for me is offline editing.

forafireescape
Feb 5, 2008, 06:26 PM
I use iPhoto but only because I'm an amateur. If I was more pro, I'd use Aperture for sure.

eddx
Feb 6, 2008, 05:48 PM
Where is Lightroom on this list, clearly Lightroom is the best post processing software for digital photographers

Digital Skunk
Feb 6, 2008, 05:58 PM
Where is Lightroom on this list, clearly Lightroom is the best post processing software for digital photographers

Sure :rolleyes:

And everyone thinks this post is fresh. It even had me fooled for a minute when a poster asked when Aperture was going to be universal. ;)

PieMac
Feb 8, 2008, 08:46 AM
Lightroom for now, but if Apple ever gets around to releasing Aperture 2.0, chances are I'll be all over it.

marclapierre13
Feb 8, 2008, 11:57 AM
iPhoto ftw. I love the new iphoto, though with my older images its a pain in the ass to organzie because the dates are all wrong :S but other than that and those, its great

Digital Skunk
Feb 8, 2008, 11:58 AM
Lightroom for now, but if Apple ever gets around to releasing Aperture 2.0, chances are I'll be all over it.

That and they give us some really useful features that neither app has now. Offline image editing, simple graphical browser (Bridge/View NX) or Aperture Lite, U point editing, and maybe something that I haven't thought of yet.

I know that the iPhoto gallery features will be there with Flash support, and some of the graphical eye candy that some may want.

jhsfosho
Feb 8, 2008, 04:36 PM
I really like the upgrades in iPhoto 7. But Im not a professional, and just use it for organization and cropping. Red eye reduction every once in awhile. If I get really crazy i might adjust the brightness and contrast.

disdat
Feb 9, 2008, 08:54 AM
That and they give us some really useful features that neither app has now. Offline image editing, simple graphical browser (Bridge/View NX) or Aperture Lite, U point editing, and maybe something that I haven't thought of yet.

I know that the iPhoto gallery features will be there with Flash support, and some of the graphical eye candy that some may want.

I have been dying to ask, and please forgive me if it is a stupid question ( I googled and couldn't find any info) but what is offline image editing?

As for Aperture Lite, I might like something like that. Sort of like PS Elements. LOL

Thanks!

Digital Skunk
Feb 9, 2008, 11:50 AM
I have been dying to ask, and please forgive me if it is a stupid question ( I googled and couldn't find any info) but what is offline image editing?

As for Aperture Lite, I might like something like that. Sort of like PS Elements. LOL

Thanks!

I don't know if offline images editing can be found online, but that is what I call editing your images in Aperture when only the preview is available. I have a library that is about 9000 images deep and carrying them with me all the time isn't an option. I put them on my tower and reference them in Aperture.

If I am away and need an image real quick but have to edit it first I have to re-link the image then edit it, even it all I want to do is crop it. Now I know that it would be hard to duplicate tonal adjustments or other with just a low res preview but i would like Aperture to at least let me make basic adjustments like cropping, straightening, spot/patch, etc. And maybe make some color adjustments and give me a warning about how it's the preview and not the actual file and my color won't be very accurate.

That would be okay if I just wanted to crop, etc. I thought LR could do that when I switched over to it my second time but alas, it performed just like Aperture did, so after two months I moved back to Aperture.

Exactly, Aperture Lite would just be the browser/very basic image editing, application like Bridge or iPhoto but just not as deep. I would be able to view other application projects like work from FCP, Illustrator, etc. and I would be able to do some very simple image editing to RAW files and JPEGs without having to launch Photoshop or Aperture. Real quick journalism work to, like batch captioning, and exif data input as well.

Then once I make my selects in Ap Lite I can hit a button and the images I want would be dragged into Aperture. Right now Bridge works fine, but exif can't be imported into Aperture from Bridge. View NX looks to be a worthy replacement but it can't view other graphic/image/video files, so may not last very long on my very small HDD.

klaxamazoo
Feb 12, 2008, 05:24 PM
I currently use iView media Pro. I like the way it organizes photos but I was wondering if anyone knows if Aperture can be used a similar way?

Digital Skunk
Feb 12, 2008, 07:43 PM
I currently use iView media Pro. I like the way it organizes photos but I was wondering if anyone knows if Aperture can be used a similar way?

It depends.... what way does iView do it?

Aperture 2.0 is out, and there doesn't seem to be an option to edit images based on their low res previews but I do like the new UI, the new shortcuts, and the much improved full screen feature. They are making it harder for me to use anything else.

JDR
Feb 12, 2008, 10:05 PM
iPhoto all the way for me :D.

redrabbit
Feb 12, 2008, 10:09 PM
For what use? it's a very vague question. for photo editing, then Photoshop, no question. No other program comes close. Are you talking about shooting in RAW or JPEG? If Jpeg, I am perfectly fine with iphoto, but if I am shooting in RAW, I can't use iphoto. So really, it all comes down to needs.

klaxamazoo
Feb 13, 2008, 09:59 AM
For what use? it's a very vague question. for photo editing, then Photoshop, no question. No other program comes close. Are you talking about shooting in RAW or JPEG? If Jpeg, I am perfectly fine with iphoto, but if I am shooting in RAW, I can't use iphoto. So really, it all comes down to needs.

I use it for organization. I like the ability to quickly and easily group photos together. i.e. I've have a huge list of people and then events and whatnot. So i can quickly go through a vacation and assign tags to who is in each picture.

The problem with iView is that it seems to keep dropping photos and I have noticed that I am loosing pictures so I am looking for an alternative.

iPhoto is okay, events are nice. But there isn't really a good way to catalog people, places ect.

Digital Skunk
Feb 13, 2008, 01:21 PM
I use it for organization. I like the ability to quickly and easily group photos together. i.e. I've have a huge list of people and then events and whatnot. So i can quickly go through a vacation and assign tags to who is in each picture.

The problem with iView is that it seems to keep dropping photos and I have noticed that I am loosing pictures so I am looking for an alternative.

iPhoto is okay, events are nice. But there isn't really a good way to catalog people, places ect.

Aperture and keywords. It works about the same way.

davinche
Feb 13, 2008, 02:12 PM
I use Aperture 2.0 as of yesterday and 1.5 before that along with iPhoto to post galleries on gallery.mac.com.

Ryox
Feb 14, 2008, 10:29 AM
Bridge, Lightroom

apple4mark
Feb 14, 2008, 04:02 PM
I bought Aperture, but don't use it due to the fact that it doesn't support my Fuji S2 or my Nikon D200 :(.

Maybe there is a work-around for the S2, but right now I'm playing with the Adobe Lightroom beta and I personally think its pretty cool.

Aperture does work with Nikon D200 as I use that all the time with no problems, it's the D300 that having problems direct from camera, but I overcome by using the card via sandisk card reader