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MacBytes
Feb 1, 2006, 08:55 PM
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Link: Universal binary crossgrade program for Apple pro apps (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20060201215500)
Description:: Apple offers crossgrade program for existing Apple pro app owners. Additionally, it offers a timeframe for availability.

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entropy1980
Feb 1, 2006, 09:07 PM
Uhhhh where's Final Cut Express? :confused:

mduser63
Feb 1, 2006, 09:15 PM
Uhhhh where's Final Cut Express? :confused:

Coming at a "later date."

I mentioned this in another thread, but this crossgrade program includes academic versions of FCP 4/HD/Production Suite, which is good news for those of us with academic version that previously weren't eligible for an upgrade to FCS/FCP 5.

TMay
Feb 1, 2006, 10:02 PM
Then, last year, upgraded Soundtrack to Soundtrack Pro. Now, I can cross grade for $199 to Final Cut Studio.

Thanks Apple!!!

kiwi-in-uk
Feb 1, 2006, 10:20 PM
I have Motion 2 & can upgrade to Studio for USD199. Excellent. (Assuming the Australian store ever gets around to putting the special offer online; I notice the UK store has the link, but nowhere to go).

kineticpast
Feb 1, 2006, 11:03 PM
I have Motion 2 & can upgrade to Studio for USD199. Excellent. (Assuming the Australian store ever gets around to putting the special offer online; I notice the UK store has the link, but nowhere to go).
The offer has been on the Aus site all day - http://www.apple.com/au/universal/crossgrade/

I'm a little annoyed at Apple's generosity today! I knew this offer was coming, but I only had an academic license, so I bought a retail copy of FCP4 off eBay. Now today I find out I could just upgrade the academic copy! Off to eBay again! ;)

nagromme
Feb 1, 2006, 11:29 PM
I've still got the old Final Cut Pro HD 4.5 (which came with the old Soundtrack). For $199 I can get the whole Studio bundle--normally $1299--including:

* The latest Final Cut Pro 5

* The new Soundtrack Pro (http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/soundtrackpro/) (which I've been eyeing for a while)

* DVD Studio Pro 4 (I never had a previous version)

* Motion 2 (I never had a previous version)

2 major upgrades and 2 all-new apps. All of which will run on my current Mac natively, and then will run native on my first Intel Mac too. And I've got until December 20, 2006 to take the discount.

Not bad from where I stand :) Makes me want to hurry up and get that Intel Mac, and get back into doing more video :)

Now, if I was paying $49 for NO new features and NO new apps, after just paying for a new Intel Mac anyway, I wouldn't be so pleased. $49 is OK if they're giving you a feature boost too, but in some cases it seems to be just a DVD exchange, and ought to cost less.

Crossgrade details:
http://www.apple.com/universal/crossgrade
Final Cut Pro Studio details:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio
Final Cut Pro 5 details:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro

kiwi-in-uk
Feb 1, 2006, 11:35 PM
The offer has been on the Aus site all day - http://www.apple.com/au/universal/crossgrade/

Ah - bewdy - thanks!
Silly me - I was looking in the store.

irontony
Feb 2, 2006, 05:51 AM
Question do these new Universal Versions still include G4/ G5/ Velocity Engine Optmizational codes? If not, then why would i want to upgrade (Other than having the latest versions of each app?)

robbieduncan
Feb 2, 2006, 05:55 AM
Question do these new Universal Versions still include G4/ G5/ Velocity Engine Optmizational codes? If not, then why would i want to upgrade (Other than having the latest versions of each app?)

No. Well yes for the PPC side of the code! Velocity engine code will not run on Intel. They are likely to include Intel specific SSE3 optimisations though that have the same effect, but on the Intel platform. If the code is written using the acceleration framework then this will all be automatic.

Edit to add: the other reason you might want to upgrade is that the old version will run very slowly or not at all on an Intel based Mac.

irontony
Feb 2, 2006, 06:02 AM
Cheers for the quick response...

Im sticking with my G5 so im not concerned about any intel codings... As long as it has G5/ Velocity Engine Optimizations then $199 to upgrade ALL Apps is a steal :)

nagromme
Feb 2, 2006, 10:39 AM
Right, that's what Universal means: native performance optimized for ALL Macs.

kiwi-in-uk
Feb 3, 2006, 10:53 PM
I have Motion 2 and want to take advantage of the upgrade offer to Studio.

The problem is that I bought Motion 2 from Apple in UK, but am now resident in Australia.

The upgrade terms & conditions state "Qualifying products must be purchased from Apple or an Apple Authorised Reseller located in Australia". The problem is in the wording of that sentence - does it mean Apple in Australia & Resellers in Australia ... or does it mean Apple (anywhere) and Resellers in Australia?.

Neither the fulfilment subcontractor nor the guy on the end of the phone at the Australian Apple Store was prepared to commit, so I have left it with Apple to find an answer over the weekend. I will be rather annoyed if I am excluded simply because I move between countries. I can't believe I am the only customer in this position ...

Anyway, I expect an answer on Monday so will post the response here.

nagromme
Feb 3, 2006, 11:44 PM
FWIW I've found Apple to be flexible when it comes to rebates--even arranging for me to get TWO rebates that went to two different addresses, when both required the same original proof of purchase. So hopefully they'll accommodate your special situation too. (In my case, I simply had to enclose a note with the rebate I sent without the original receipt. I was skeptical that a rebate fulfillment center would be able to process that, but it worked.)

sjk
Feb 4, 2006, 12:14 AM
Then, last year, upgraded Soundtrack to Soundtrack Pro.Is it still possible to do that? I've got FCE HD w/ Soundtrack now.

nagromme
Feb 4, 2006, 12:40 AM
Soundtrack Pro doesn't seem to be available by itself anymore--just in the Studio bundle (although you could always call and ask about your options).

I assume there's still a path for upgrading from FCE to FC Pro Studio, which would include ST Pro, but I don't think I saw that on Apple's site.

sjk
Feb 4, 2006, 05:23 PM
Thanks for the quick check, nagromme. I'll look into possible upgrade options more thoroughly next week.

And thanks again for your M-Audio keyboard advice. The Keystation 49e arrived a few days ago and now my wife's trying to keep me from opening it until my birthday next month while I'm waiting for her to pay me back for this self-purchased gift. :)

nagromme
Feb 4, 2006, 06:36 PM
Wow that's harsh! :) But have fun!

Good excuse to open it early: if you don't like it within 30 days you can usually return it.

iGary
Feb 4, 2006, 06:39 PM
No Aperture.

Hrrmmm.

whocares
Feb 4, 2006, 06:46 PM
The so-called "cross-grades" should be free. I seems like Apple invented the term "cross-grade" to justify getting money for something that should be free. It's not like they didn't know this was going top happen. Or do the Apple SW devs. also visit MR?

nagromme
Feb 4, 2006, 06:50 PM
I agree it should be free (cost of the DVD and shipping, or totally free download like Aperture is) if there were no new features, but in many cases you are ALSO getting new features.

And Apple didn't invent the term crossgrade--nor charging for them. Crossgrade often means you own an app for one OS, and want to trade it for the same app on the OS you have just switched to. (A nice option for Mac switchers, if they call the manufacturer to find out what the deal is.)

whocares
Feb 4, 2006, 06:51 PM
I agree it should be free (cost of the DVD and shipping, or totally free download like Aperture is) if there were no new features, but in many cases you are ALSO getting new features.


Ooooops, didn't realise that :o

kiwi-in-uk
Feb 9, 2006, 11:46 PM
I have Motion 2 and want to take advantage of the upgrade offer to Studio.

The problem is that I bought Motion 2 from Apple in UK, but am now resident in Australia.

The upgrade terms & conditions state "Qualifying products must be purchased from Apple or an Apple Authorised Reseller located in Australia". The problem is in the wording of that sentence - does it mean Apple in Australia & Resellers in Australia ... or does it mean Apple (anywhere) and Resellers in Australia?.

Neither the fulfilment subcontractor nor the guy on the end of the phone at the Australian Apple Store was prepared to commit, so I have left it with Apple to find an answer over the weekend. I will be rather annoyed if I am excluded simply because I move between countries. I can't believe I am the only customer in this position ...

Anyway, I expect an answer on Monday so will post the response here.
Well it took a week, but the Apple store in Australia confirmed that I will be able to upgrade if I furnish proof of purchase.

If anyone else is in the same position I recommend you contact both the local fulfilment agent (it seems to be outsourced) and Apple to make sure that your upgrade will be honoured.