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crampy20
Feb 5, 2006, 01:17 PM
There are skeptics out there that will undoubtably ask why should you believe me when i post this...
1.) just because i am a newbie doesnt mean my information isn't any less valid
2.) just because i am a newbie is doesnt mean that i am not who i say i am
3.) just because i have made no posts and this will be my ONLY one, that doesnt mean my information is any less valid...
4.) just because my typing style isnt umm.. perfect it doesnt mean my information is any less valid...
I have tried contacting various rumor sites before under an as annoymous form as i can. By altering the output of many IP tracers so my IP address leads to an obscure address i made at random, by using friends inside gmail and .mac to alter my personal information if people try to finger me through the network utility. Thus i have resorted to this final method by doing a public posting. There will always be skeptics and the first person to post, by meer style, will undoubtably knock me off... No worries, this post is for information purposes purley. And trust me, as i have a job in the specific Intel sector dedicated to apple, my information is right...
So after building up my defenses i shall get to the point.
We at intel are building the internal specs and design of the new 30th anniversary mac. I CANNOT PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING EXTERIOR DESIGN. I can though provide various bits of info regarding all the core stuff that people care about, and only through our constant communication with apple, all the stuff to do with GPU and other hardware.
Remember no external design provided or potentially provided, wait until the leaks or the mockups (ho ho)
Also this isnt the next Power mac/ mac pro as that is being designed by another team and will be provided with the ... whatever ... proccessor and chip set.
TAM - Entry level (pun intended)
2 x 3.2GHz Intel Pentium 4 Processor (Special Extreme Edition (90nm at 900Mhz with 1mb L2 and 2Mb L3 - hence special edition) supporting Hyper-Threading Technology (blah blah blah)) ...
speedy... wow! this will be mounted on a SPECIAL !!! 1000X (modified 975X) express Chipset which will be slightly modified to allow for the 900Mhz and the socket which will be mPGA479 - not 478
This breaks the 3.0 barrier
The entire architecuture will include PCI express and the such, most of the stuff coming of the motherboard (will be a D1000XBX (new!) and will run on the mPGA479 socket) this will be faster than the 975 as will allow for 16GB of ram running a faster DDR2 and the (optional & expensive) ECC. PCI express 16x obviously and will allow for double the pheriphals that the 975 allowed but i doubt apple will include 16 USB ports or 8 hard drives.
Of the processor side standard specs will be 256mb GPU (x1800 i believe...) and a very high quality audio system (5.1 dolby jack is a possibility ... i think... dont know much about that side) and as far as i know wont come with a screen yet the annoncment will be followed by Viiv screens (according to a fellow sleuth that span from 17" to 35" and as there will be several PCI lanes and high graphics proccessing i think apple is going to adverstise the capability of 16 screens (anything below 30") (with a slightly different port output arranged ment (2 wires out of one jack wi' a special screening system...) , but noone is going to do that...
apart from that i know nothing of the basic line...
midrange will be 3.46 on a 90nm procces running at 1200Mhz to the motherboard (D1025XBX ) with a LGA800 (new) socket
high-end will be a completly different processor, motherboard, socket ...
it will be 3.96 Ghz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! on a APPL100 socket that will go to a APPL100XSX motherboard and will run at 1300Mhz and will also be a 90nm process, stevie wants a dual core on this one, but the prototype was way to buggy and the release is too soon. Apart from that it is bundeled with 512mb GPU and a slightly more packaged exterior and comes free with an extra 2gb DDR2 ECC ram (on top of 2BG standard all line) so it is a really really good machine. I have to say it will be expensive but apple is trying to screw the pc world on this one and will make them all a cheap as possibile to try and wipe out the expensive critisim...
I know there will be critics and there will be flak but trust me on this one...
CHOW!!!
EDIT :- all processors are 2x forgot to spec that on the last ones
mkrishnan
Feb 5, 2006, 01:21 PM
In the words of El Guapo, "I like these guys. They're funny guys. Just kill one of them." :D
http://www.combatjitsu.com/still/3_amigo01.jpg
MIDI_EVIL
Feb 5, 2006, 01:24 PM
Mental.
Rich.
Nickygoat
Feb 5, 2006, 01:30 PM
A P4? How likely is that?
MIDI_EVIL
Feb 5, 2006, 01:32 PM
I think we need more.
Rich.
MIDI_EVIL
Feb 5, 2006, 01:33 PM
A P4? How likely is that?
Un...
Rich.
AdamR01
Feb 5, 2006, 01:34 PM
A P4? How likely is that?
A lot more likely than this
3.96 Ghz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! on a APPL100 socket
crampy20
Feb 5, 2006, 01:47 PM
P4 is the only current option
stevie is a forceful M F he insisted on a seperate chipset even though it isnt that different from the ones at hand... 4.0 is slightly unobtainable at the mo but its as fast as fast can get and apple will have fun publising this:D
pknz
Feb 5, 2006, 01:49 PM
Slow, drawn out: Riiiiiiight
crampy20
Feb 5, 2006, 01:54 PM
Slow, drawn out: Riiiiiiight
indeed... but expect to dish out $$$ the processors are very expensive especially as some are being converted to 90nm and the high end one is in fact a different core system, the architecture is very advanced and the on board memory is quite high. expect to see a similar g5 type cooling system on the high end one... its quite a scorcher
Josh396
Feb 5, 2006, 01:56 PM
No way I see this happening. Maybe if you would have said something other than a Pentium 4 it would have been somewhat believable.
crampy20
Feb 5, 2006, 02:00 PM
No way I see this happening. Maybe if you would have said something other than a Pentium 4 it would have been somewhat believable.
and what would you suggest ? there is nothing else in the pipeline except what is being released ages away (5 months) intel has announced all future chips and the core duo is NOT fast enough... apple wants to hit the world with this, and even though p4 is old and frankly very poor it is the only option (dont try and suggest D that isnt mind-blowing enough)
Peace
Feb 5, 2006, 02:04 PM
and what would you suggest ? there is nothing else in the pipeline except what is being released ages away (5 months) intel has announced all future chips and the core duo is NOT fast enough... apple wants to hit the world with this, and even though p4 is old and frankly very poor it is the only option (dont try and suggest D that isnt mind-blowing enough)
3.) just because i have made no posts and this will be my ONLY one, that doesnt mean my information is any less valid...
For someone wanting to stay stealth you're off to a great start :rolleyes:
mkrishnan
Feb 5, 2006, 02:06 PM
and what would you suggest ? there is nothing else in the pipeline except what is being released ages away (5 months) intel has announced all future chips and the core duo is NOT fast enough... apple wants to hit the world with this, and even though p4 is old and frankly very poor it is the only option (dont try and suggest D that isnt mind-blowing enough)
I dunno...from the benchmarks, two core duos might not be so bad in a Powermac....
pknz
Feb 5, 2006, 02:09 PM
^ I was just about to point that out...
crampy20
Feb 5, 2006, 02:10 PM
I dunno...from the benchmarks, two core duos might not be so bad in a Powermac....
true true but i believe apple's priority is getting macs over 3.0 ghz they have pushed to get the intel into a laptop and to replace the slow powerbooks... now their next priority is prooving that the powerpc is rubbish by putting an 3> into a workstation and to be honest it looks like you'll be getting a just about 4 Ghz.... but..... the slightly changed arcitecture is new and the time too low, but hopefully we will be able to release it on time, and properly
Coolnat2004
Feb 5, 2006, 02:12 PM
I thought Intel was discontinuing the Pentium line ..?
crampy20
Feb 5, 2006, 02:14 PM
I thought Intel was discontinuing the Pentium line ..?
only once the 45nm process is out... and woodcrest ...
localghost
Feb 5, 2006, 02:15 PM
jesus, i hope you are wrong
i'd love a media center, but i'd never buy anything netburst
Josh396
Feb 5, 2006, 02:17 PM
3.) just because i have made no posts and this will be my ONLY one, that doesnt mean my information is any less valid...
For someone wanting to stay stealth you're off to a great start :rolleyes:
I was about to point out the same thing.
Nickygoat
Feb 5, 2006, 02:23 PM
time too low, but hopefully we will be able to release it on time, and properly
And when is this happening?
localghost
Feb 5, 2006, 02:25 PM
And when is this happening?
on apples 30th anniversary? :D
Daedalus256
Feb 5, 2006, 02:30 PM
lol.
Nickygoat
Feb 5, 2006, 02:34 PM
on apples 30th anniversary? :DVery amusing.
I meant specifically, if time is too tight.
And according to Lowendmac (http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/tam.shtml) the 20th Anniversary Mac wasn't released until 1997. So there's no reason it should be out April 1.
Dreadnought
Feb 6, 2006, 12:05 PM
I don't buy that Apple will bring out two different boards with a different architecture and different processors for one machine, especially P4.... No way that this is gonna happen. It could be that they are developing it with a P4 to see if it's feasible, but they certainly won't bring it out with one (or two, in this matter :D )
StealthRider
Feb 6, 2006, 12:13 PM
Netburst (and, by extension, the Pentium 4) is a dead-end. Apple will not have two Pentium 4s in their machines. Ever.
And P4s don't support multiprocessing. It'd have to be a Xeon. Which is expensive. And will be thoroughly slaughtered by Conroe.
And the socket used for the processor really has nothing to do with the speed.
And PCI-express has nothing to do with "double the peripherals".
And Intel won't have a 1200MHz bus ever. 1033 (somewhere around there) or 1333 buses are only coming with the introduction of Conroe.
So, to sum up, this is about the biggest load of ******** I've ever seen in my life. Try doing research before you sling **** into the fan.
whocares
Feb 6, 2006, 12:27 PM
My neighbour's sister's husband's uncle's friend's postlady's husband is a janitor at intel and apparently they will be using 4x revamped G3+Altivec chips in the 30AM.
My other neighbour's son's schoolmate's teacher's mistresse's husband is a janitor at Lockheed who are making the enclosure. It will be made of carbon-kevlar to withstand both the extreme temperatures and the powerful airflow generated by the 25 silent fans that cool it.
From unconfirmed sources (I received an anonymous phone call from a guy claiming to work for Western Digital), no drives are said to be available on the 30AM to save space and to fit all this into a .25" deep enclosure (made possible by the use of carbon-kevlar that prevents it from warping). Operation of the 30AM requires a subscription to .Mac to store files, applications and personal data. Family subscription packages to .Mac are available.
I have hijacked whocares account and am posting this anonymously so not to compromise my sources.
Counterfit
Feb 6, 2006, 02:17 PM
There are skeptics out there that will undoubtably ask why should you believe me when i post this...
1.) just because i am a newbie doesnt mean my information isn't any less valid
2.) just because i am a newbie is doesnt mean that i am not who i say i am
3.) just because i have made no posts and this will be my ONLY one, that doesnt mean my information is any less valid...
4.) just because my typing style isnt umm.. perfect it doesnt mean my information is any less valid...
It doesn't mean anything about your information, it just means we won't believe you. :rolleyes:
it will be 3.96 Ghz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! on a APPL100 socket that will go to a APPL100XSX motherboard
This (http://www.emni.net/index.cfm/treeID/16/cfid/742832/cftoken/99898775/ShopAction/article/id/43166) is the most relevant thing I found with Google for APPL100. APPL100XSX (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=safari&rls=en&q=APPL100XSX&btnG=Search) comes up with nothing.
Apart from that it is bundeled with 512mb GPU and a slightly more packaged exterior and comes free with an extra 2gb DDR2 ECC ram
512MB card I can believe, but ECC RAM? I thought they were trying to blow the PC world away, not make the world's fastest server. ECC RAM is much slower than non-ECC RAM.
My verdict: You, sir (madam?), are full of ****.
Pistol Pete
Feb 6, 2006, 02:47 PM
wow that was a waste of my life...
none the less i am hoping for a 30th anniversery mac...
Revlimit Punk
Feb 6, 2006, 03:05 PM
this will be faster than the 975 as will allow for 16GB of ram running a faster DDR2
Pentium 4 processors can address a maximum of 4GB of ram. Case closed.
Even though this is just a fake (obviously), Steve might surprise us with a really cool looking mac to celebrate the 30th anniversary, who knows.
codepoet80
Feb 6, 2006, 03:18 PM
I don't think Steve was at Apple when they made the TAM. Since he suffers from NIBM Syndrome (Not Invented By Me), I doubt he'll follow it up at all (especially not with a P4, get real). Most likely he just wants us to buy the Intel iMac for the anniversary...
Halsey12
Feb 6, 2006, 03:29 PM
Wow doode, totally tubular info. Neato keano radicalities. The intranutt is fun. You should try myspace, I bet you'd have like 1600 friends. That's how you really measure coolness.
Lastinline39
Feb 6, 2006, 03:59 PM
I don't think Steve was at Apple when they made the TAM. Since he suffers from NIBM Syndrome (Not Invented By Me), I doubt he'll follow it up at all (especially not with a P4, get real). Most likely he just wants us to buy the Intel iMac for the anniversary...
More like the TAM suffered from NIBJ Syndrome (Not Invented By Jobs). It was horrible and overpriced. I hope they don't do a third anniversary mac, at least not in the same sense. I'd rather have a HMM (home media mac) or how bout just an imac that is just a floating screen. Anti-grav, and full movability of the screen. Sounds good to me.
clayj
Feb 6, 2006, 04:10 PM
Crampy, here's one way you can establish a bit of validity here.
Shoot me an e-mail (clayj@clayj.com) from your work address. If I like what I see, I'll confirm for everyone else that you work for who you SAY you work for. I won't reveal your identity to anyone else, so you don't have to worry about your identity being leaked and getting in trouble.
StealthRider
Feb 6, 2006, 04:11 PM
Pentium 4 processors can address a maximum of 4GB of ram. Case closed.
Some (most?) Pentium 4s are 64-bit now.
thegreatluke
Feb 6, 2006, 08:44 PM
If you worked at Intel and knew about microprocessor engineering, I'm sure you'd be able to type pretty well.
Also, why would they post using some random screenname on MacRumors?
If you really were a sneak and doing this from Intel, I'm sure, they, as the people who know OS X and their microprocessors up and down, could figure out who you are.
Have fun. :D
MODERATORS: Can we have a mod figure out from where crampy is typing?
Anonymous Freak
Feb 6, 2006, 09:04 PM
There are skeptics out there that will undoubtably ask why should you believe me when i post this...
Sorry, I call *********. I used to work in Intel's motherboard division (engineering level tech support,) and still have contacts in both the motherboard and processor divisions. That is the biggest bunch of bull I have ever seen.
1. Intel wouldn't design a 'new' socket for Apple. Period.
2. There is already a Pentium Extreme Edition on a 65nm process at 3.46 GHz that has 2 MB L2 cache per processor, operating on a 1066MHz bus. Why downgrade to a 900MHz bus? Why downgrade even the 'high end' processor to a 90nm process? Hardware review sites have seen no problem getting this new processor above 4 GHz, and Intel has tacitly allowed 'high end OEMs' like Alienware to overclock, so why wouldn't Apple just go for broke and go for over 4 GHz? With the watercooling system from the G5, it would be easy to design a system to exceed 4 GHz. (Oh, and this disregards the fact that you can't even get the name of the current high end processor right.)
3. As mentioned, the Pentium 4 / Pentium-D / Pentium Extreme Edition does not support dual processors (dual-socket.) This would take a Xeon. Although there is no underlying technical reason why they can't, it is disabled in hardware, and Intel doesn't produce special processors for one OEM. They may release them to one OEM before any others, but Intel won't release a dual-socket P4.
3. By all the info MY contacts have, Apple won't use Pentium 4s. At all. Apple is avoiding NetBurst like the plague, because it is a power hog. A dual Pentium EE with a high end video system would require a 500W power supply, at least. Apple is going low power, not high power.
4. 256 MB video cards aren't top of the line. Even the Power Mac G5 offers a 512MB video card option. And ATI just released the X1900. But, since you claim to be an Intel guy, not an Apple guy, I'll forgive this one.
*********. Plain and simple.
ieani
Feb 6, 2006, 09:31 PM
Lets see him and powermac daddy argue over who is right about 30th anniversary release.
Maxwell Smart
Feb 6, 2006, 09:33 PM
Sounds like BS, as other users have stated, most of the facts are incorrect.
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