I know it's been discussed a lot, but I wanted to share a comparison I've been doing between an iBook and a Dell notebook to give an example of the cost hurdle switchers face.
I've only owned Mac's (currently an iMac DV with a 400 MHz G3 running OS9), and have been considering adding a notebook for general use in our home. This would be lots of web surfing, email, letter writing, and probably iLife-type stuff. It occurred to me that having a PC around for access to the zillion PC aps (without having to deal with Virtual PC) might be nice, so I started looking at what Dell had to offer.
Here's what I found. Dell's 4150 is a very close match in many features to a 14" iBook:
Dell 4150
P4M 1.8 GHz
512K Cache
512 MB 266 Mhz DDR
14" (1600x1200)
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32 MB
AGP 4X
30 GB Disk
PCMCIA
1.47" x 12.5" x 10.0"
5.6 - 6.2 lbs
iBook
G3 800 MHz
512K Cache
256 MB PC100
14" (1024x768)
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32 MB
AGP 2X
30 GB Disk
Firewire
1.35" x 12.7" x 10.2"
5.9 lbs
Comparing the cost of these systems, including WiFi support, additional memory for the iBook, and an extended warranty (which I really want for a notebook) is amazing:
Dell 4150
Base Price $1299 (after rebate)
Extra Memory included
WiFi Card included
WiFi Router $ 110
Ext Warrenty $ 119
Total Cost $1528
This is a special preconfigured system Dell's been offering for several months.
iBook (from the Apple store)
Base Price $1499
Extra Memory $ 150
WiFi Card $ 79
WiFi Router $ 199
Ext Warrenty $ 249
Total Cost $2176
The iBook package prices out 42% more expensive than a very similarly equipped Dell laptop! I could probably save about $200 buying mail order to get memory bundled and using a cheaper WiFi router instead of the Airport, but still, this is a much more expensive system than what the PC world is offering. I certainly understand that the iBook is offering me a much better software environment, but I really miss the value my iMac DV was 3 years ago. I also find myself wanting to play a waiting game: if the iBook is this expensive, aren't they sure to drop the prices soon?
I haven't done a similar comparison between a Dell desktop system and and iMac, but I suspect the Apple premium is even greater in that case.
I'm sure I'll end up with an iBook, so can I live without the extra memory on the iBook? Is the 256 MB it comes with enough for what I'll be doing? I'd like to buy from the Apple store if I can but I don't want to pay for the memory it takes to make the system reasonable.
I've only owned Mac's (currently an iMac DV with a 400 MHz G3 running OS9), and have been considering adding a notebook for general use in our home. This would be lots of web surfing, email, letter writing, and probably iLife-type stuff. It occurred to me that having a PC around for access to the zillion PC aps (without having to deal with Virtual PC) might be nice, so I started looking at what Dell had to offer.
Here's what I found. Dell's 4150 is a very close match in many features to a 14" iBook:
Dell 4150
P4M 1.8 GHz
512K Cache
512 MB 266 Mhz DDR
14" (1600x1200)
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32 MB
AGP 4X
30 GB Disk
PCMCIA
1.47" x 12.5" x 10.0"
5.6 - 6.2 lbs
iBook
G3 800 MHz
512K Cache
256 MB PC100
14" (1024x768)
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32 MB
AGP 2X
30 GB Disk
Firewire
1.35" x 12.7" x 10.2"
5.9 lbs
Comparing the cost of these systems, including WiFi support, additional memory for the iBook, and an extended warranty (which I really want for a notebook) is amazing:
Dell 4150
Base Price $1299 (after rebate)
Extra Memory included
WiFi Card included
WiFi Router $ 110
Ext Warrenty $ 119
Total Cost $1528
This is a special preconfigured system Dell's been offering for several months.
iBook (from the Apple store)
Base Price $1499
Extra Memory $ 150
WiFi Card $ 79
WiFi Router $ 199
Ext Warrenty $ 249
Total Cost $2176
The iBook package prices out 42% more expensive than a very similarly equipped Dell laptop! I could probably save about $200 buying mail order to get memory bundled and using a cheaper WiFi router instead of the Airport, but still, this is a much more expensive system than what the PC world is offering. I certainly understand that the iBook is offering me a much better software environment, but I really miss the value my iMac DV was 3 years ago. I also find myself wanting to play a waiting game: if the iBook is this expensive, aren't they sure to drop the prices soon?
I haven't done a similar comparison between a Dell desktop system and and iMac, but I suspect the Apple premium is even greater in that case.
I'm sure I'll end up with an iBook, so can I live without the extra memory on the iBook? Is the 256 MB it comes with enough for what I'll be doing? I'd like to buy from the Apple store if I can but I don't want to pay for the memory it takes to make the system reasonable.