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Feb 8, 2006, 09:04 AM
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utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 09:32 AM
I really hate apple mail ... its why I sold my ibook.

** let me add **
I get it now that there are lots of options I didn't know about before. Maybe I didnt give enough time to learn how to work the mail program correctly.

Diatribe
Feb 8, 2006, 09:51 AM
I really hate apple mail ... its why I sold my ibook.

That has got to be the most ignorant, irrelevant post lately... :rolleyes:

Edit: I definitely shouldn't be posting at that time in the morning without a spell checker. :rolleyes:

Photorun
Feb 8, 2006, 09:56 AM
I really hate apple mail ... its why I sold my ibook.

Care to elaborate on that or are you just in a trolling mood?

adamfilip
Feb 8, 2006, 10:01 AM
I really hate apple mail. so i sold my Dog.

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 10:25 AM
Sure ....

I wanted to switch to the ibook, so I sold my PC lappie and bought an ibook via ebay. I used it for about two weeks and loved everything but the mail client.

I guess I am just to used to having outlook express to change. Maybe I'm just set in my ways. But I hated how it worked.

I love everything else about my ibook. Just I couldnt get the mail to work how I would like it.

-Jordan

Billicus
Feb 8, 2006, 10:28 AM
Sure ....

I wanted to switch to the ibook, so I sold my PC lappie and bought an ibook via ebay. I used it for about two weeks and loved everything but the mail client.

I guess I am just to used to having outlook express to change. Maybe I'm just set in my ways. But I hated how it worked.

I love everything else about my ibook. Just I couldnt get the mail to work how I would like it.

-Jordan

You do realize there are other mail clients for the Mac and that you're not bound to using Apple's solution? :rolleyes:

Diatribe
Feb 8, 2006, 10:33 AM
Sure ....

I wanted to switch to the ibook, so I sold my PC lappie and bought an ibook via ebay. I used it for about two weeks and loved everything but the mail client.

I guess I am just to used to having outlook express to change. Maybe I'm just set in my ways. But I hated how it worked.

I love everything else about my ibook. Just I couldnt get the mail to work how I would like it.

-Jordan

Yeah, I had the same problem with my new BMW. I just hated how the radio worked. Maybe I am just used to Toyota's radios. But I hated how it worked, so I sold it.

mkaake
Feb 8, 2006, 10:41 AM
Sure ....

I wanted to switch to the ibook, so I sold my PC lappie and bought an ibook via ebay. I used it for about two weeks and loved everything but the mail client.

I guess I am just to used to having outlook express to change. Maybe I'm just set in my ways. But I hated how it worked.

I love everything else about my ibook. Just I couldnt get the mail to work how I would like it.

-Jordan

right.

anyway,

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/outlookexpress/outlookexpress.aspx?pid=outlookexpress

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 10:42 AM
You do realize there are other mail clients for the Mac and that you're not bound to using Apple's solution? :rolleyes:

Nope, I did not know that ... If only you had been around to offer me this help when I bought my ibook I might still have an apple computer.

Sorry to cause such a problem, but thats how I feel about the apple mail program.

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 10:48 AM
Yeah, I had the same problem with my new BMW. I just hated how the radio worked. Maybe I am just used to Toyota's radios. But I hated how it worked, so I sold it.

But if you were test driving a BMW and didnt like tha radio system then you migh choose a better feeling car? Or stick with the brand of car/radio you alright know.

-Jordan

munkle
Feb 8, 2006, 10:49 AM
If you were too set in your ways maybe a platform change wasn't the best idea.

And like others have said, there are alternatives available...say hello to Thunderbird (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11942).

Diatribe
Feb 8, 2006, 10:50 AM
But if you were test driving a BMW and didnt like tha radio system then you migh choose a better feeling car? Or stick with the brand of car/radio you alright know.

-Jordan

Exactly. So why again, didn't you do this?

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 10:57 AM
Exactly. So why again, didn't you do this?

Sorry, I didnt want to start a war here. Maybe what I should have said was: 'I sold my ibook after two weeks because I couldn't use the apple mail program'

I didnt know or think about using another mail client.

xyian
Feb 8, 2006, 11:08 AM
I like the Mail program just fine. Only problem is that when I get a new computer, each time I have problems with the outgoing server. Don't know why, I usually import all my settings from my previous machine.

Diatribe
Feb 8, 2006, 11:31 AM
Sorry, I didnt want to start a war here. Maybe what I should have said was: 'I sold my ibook after two weeks because I couldn't use the apple mail program'

I didnt know or think about using another mail client.

No war, don't worry. I was just trying to point out that your method was quite drastic and maybe a bit too fast.

nagromme
Feb 8, 2006, 12:18 PM
Apple's Mail has always done the job for me, but with Tiger, I can finally say I really like Apple's Mail a lot.

The best way I can express my satisfaction: I like it enough to tolerate those goofy toolbar icons that don't match other apps :p

whenpaulsparks
Feb 8, 2006, 01:42 PM
i could understand microsoft outlook 2003, but outlook express?! you like outlook express better than apple mail, enough to sell one of the most gracefully designed laptops with the best operating system on the planet?!

apple mail is great. takes a bit of getting used to, though. (longer than 2 weeks). and once you "get" it, you love it. plus it works great with other programs like ical and iphoto and ichat and address book, and the MacGPG plugin is awesome for signing/encrypting messages.

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 02:10 PM
Edited out * Never mind

cycocelica
Feb 8, 2006, 02:34 PM
I love mac mail...its why i kept my PowerBook.

I couldnt get Thunderbird set up with my gmail account so I dont know how well that works.

p0intblank
Feb 8, 2006, 02:54 PM
You sold your iBook because you didn't like one application? No offense, but that has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on a forum. The Internet is crawling with free applications and you seriously did not know this? All I have to say is... wow.

redAPPLE
Feb 8, 2006, 03:05 PM
I love everything else about my ibook. Just I couldnt get the mail to work how I would like it.

-Jordan

hey jordan. care to elaborate, what you really mean? it made me curious. thanks.

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 03:10 PM
hey jordan. care to elaborate, what you really mean? it made me curious. thanks.

I love the 1) battery life mostly, 2) then photo software was great, 3) iTunes (but I have that on my PC too), 4) all the iLife stuff looked awesome ... didnt really do alot with it. 5) the overall look and feel of the ibook, I mean it felt high quality and very durable

Maybe there is more, and if I think of something else good about my ibook I'll post it

p0intblank
Feb 8, 2006, 03:15 PM
You like all that, yet you still sold it? I just don't get it... anyone with me?

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 03:19 PM
You sold your iBook because you didn't like one application? No offense, but that has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on a forum. The Internet is crawling with free applications and you seriously did not know this? All I have to say is... wow.

If only that were the most stupid thing I've done. But I kinda agree with you after reading all these responses. I wish I had know about all the options that OS X has for e-mail clients.

I was just too niave about the apple OS to realize how much I could have enjoyed it.

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 03:23 PM
You like all that, yet you still sold it? I just don't get it... anyone with me?

I thought *at the time* that I would never understand the e-mail, and without my work e-mail I couldn't get very far.

macten
Feb 8, 2006, 04:22 PM
I had to buy a Windows Pee Cee since my wife did not like the way MS Excel and Quicken worked on the Mac. :rolleyes:

Back on topic though... I love the Mail client. It is so easy to set up rules and folders and the Spam filter actually works.

nagromme
Feb 8, 2006, 04:27 PM
I know someone who was leery of the Mac because the shortcuts use the Command key instead of Ctrl :D Imagine his delight to learn that Tiger lets you swap the Ctrl and Command functions if you wish.


If only that were the most stupid thing I've done. But I kinda agree with you after reading all these responses. I wish I had know about all the options that OS X has for e-mail clients.

I was just too niave about the apple OS to realize how much I could have enjoyed it.
Regret helps nothing. Instead save up for a shrieking fast, cheap, 64-bit Intel iBook in 2007 that will run both OS X and Windows :)

utah_boy2
Feb 8, 2006, 04:29 PM
Regret helps nothing. Instead save up for a shrieking fast, cheap, 64-bit Intel iBook in 2007 that will run both OS X and Windows :)

Best post yet, Something like that is perfect. I'm going to start saving up.

Jschultz
Feb 8, 2006, 08:10 PM
Grr. I'm having trouble setting up my college email account..They use MS Outlook. Can I still use it with my PB?

redAPPLE
Feb 9, 2006, 01:32 AM
I love the 1) battery life mostly, 2) then photo software was great, 3) iTunes (but I have that on my PC too), 4) all the iLife stuff looked awesome ... didnt really do alot with it. 5) the overall look and feel of the ibook, I mean it felt high quality and very durable

Maybe there is more, and if I think of something else good about my ibook I'll post it

hey. i think you misunderstood my question. i would like to know, what part of Mail was not so cool for you. maybe my "hate" for all things m$ is blinding me. that is the reason i asked. you don't have to tell me how good the Apple experience is ;-)

redAPPLE
Feb 9, 2006, 01:37 AM
Grr. I'm having trouble setting up my college email account..They use MS Outlook. Can I still use it with my PB?

ok. i would assume this is not a joke ok?

you could theoretically use MS Outlook, if you install Virtual PC.

at work, i use Apple Mail to read and write emails. because our company has an exchange server (the windows & outlook users want it), my Mac has to interact with the exchange server.

guess what, it works without a problem.

maybe you could explain your problem further.

utah_boy2
Feb 9, 2006, 09:57 AM
I get it- I dont like apple mail and you guys dont like me because of it.

-Jordan

Jschultz
Feb 9, 2006, 11:46 AM
ok. i would assume this is not a joke ok?

you could theoretically use MS Outlook, if you install Virtual PC.

at work, i use Apple Mail to read and write emails. because our company has an exchange server (the windows & outlook users want it), my Mac has to interact with the exchange server.

guess what, it works without a problem.

maybe you could explain your problem further.

Not a joke. Rather than open safari, log into my schools email server...etc..I'd like to just use mail. Everything I've tried so far doesn't work. I'm pretty sure it's an IMAP server, but I could be wrong. POP doesn't work, for sure. Nothing is working at this point, but it could be my stupidity.

My server is "studentmail.jjc.edu"

I log in my school username, password. Nada.

any tips?

sjk
Feb 9, 2006, 07:56 PM
I get it- I dont like apple mail and you guys dont like me because of it.What I'm not liking is you not telling us what specifically made you hate Apple Mail so much.

Jschultz, have you tried getting some Mail setup help from the sysadmins at your school?

bookofjames
Feb 9, 2006, 08:22 PM
I get it- I dont like apple mail and you guys dont like me because of it.

-Jordan
take it easy Jordan. I think everyone is just surprised at the decision u made. We all have different experiences and expectations.

I encourage u to save up and get a new Mac to give the Mac experience a second chance. Now that you have the Mac community here to answer your questions, I'm sure this time around it will be a much more pleasant experience.

cheers
James

solvs
Feb 9, 2006, 11:14 PM
I get it- I dont like apple mail and you guys dont like me because of it.
No, we're just making fun of you because what you did was funny to those of us who are not newbies. We get kinda defensive because we're so used to dealing with trolls who gives reasons like the one you did for not liking Macs. But you know how ridiculous what you said was now, you live and learn, and now you have a whole community to help you out. Unfortunately, we reserve the right to make fun of you. Think of it more as being "one of the boys" instead of an insult. We were all newbies once. ;)

calebjohnston
Feb 9, 2006, 11:30 PM
In response to something from the first page...

I think selling a computer because you don't like the default e-mail application is insane.

That's that.

Bing Bang Boom.

utah_boy2
Feb 10, 2006, 08:42 AM
No, we're just making fun of you because what you did was funny to those of us who are not newbies. We get kinda defensive because we're so used to dealing with trolls who gives reasons like the one you did for not liking Macs. But you know how ridiculous what you said was now, you live and learn, and now you have a whole community to help you out. Unfortunately, we reserve the right to make fun of you. Think of it more as being "one of the boys" instead of an insult. We were all newbies once. ;)

Its okay I'm not losing sleep over anything being said here. I made my point you made yours. Thats what a forum like this is for, right? And I've learned alot too!