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TheMasin9
Feb 14, 2006, 01:03 PM
hey all photographers, i am considering getting into the slr market and i have been doing a little bit of shopping through cameras. I have taken a liking to the digital rebel xt and the 20d. can anyone offer me insight or comparison on these cameras. I know the price is about 300-500 different in favor of the 20d but are these features really worth it? Or, is there a darkhorse camera that i should look into?



electronboy
Feb 14, 2006, 01:52 PM
if you want more pro features then use the 20D. We have professional photographers here and they use 20D cameras and have great things to say about them.

If you are a hobbyist I'm sure that the Rebel will be enough camera for you.

If you get a used 20D make sure you update its firmware as there were problems with the early models that have since been addressed.

iGary
Feb 14, 2006, 01:55 PM
The main deal with the 20D is SPEED, plus some really neat, but seldom-used pro features.

It also hae a magnesium versus plastic body.

Do you want a 6-8 year camera that can eventually become a spare body?

cwright
Feb 14, 2006, 02:38 PM
I love my Digital Rebel XT, but I wish I had spent the extra money on the 20D. Some of these have already been mentioned, but the main plusses on the 20D are...

Speed (5 fps vs. 3 fps)
Focus (9 point vs. 7 point)
Sensitivity (ability to shoot ISO 3200)
Body (Magnesium vs. Plastic)
Resolution (8.2mp vs. 8.0mp)

I'd say buy the 20D

ziwi
Feb 14, 2006, 02:50 PM
Based on my budget - I went with the XT and better lenses versus the 20d and the kit - so it may come down to price.

fuzzwud
Feb 14, 2006, 03:50 PM
Based on my budget - I went with the XT and better lenses versus the 20d and the kit - so it may come down to price.

I second ziwi's opinion. That's what I did. Camera bodies will go the way of commodities like PCs. Spend your money on lenses and lighting equipment.

The difference between the two wasn't worth $500 for me. I got myself a 3rd lens with that money. Here are the points of difference:

Speed (5 fps vs. 3 fps) - good if you will take lots of action and sports
Focus (9 point vs. 7 point) - it's nice too but how much of a difference is unclear
Sensitivity (ability to shoot ISO 3200) - rarely use it.
Body (Magnesium vs. Plastic) - magnesium is nice but i would only pay an extra $100-300
Resolution (8.2mp vs. 8.0mp) - .2 mp doesn't matter much.

my 2 cents.
dw

form
Feb 14, 2006, 04:06 PM
I wasn't able to afford a 20D when I bought my XT. I got the XT because I needed faster lenses and better light sensitivity with lower noise than non-dSLR cameras could provide.

Later on when I had the choice to opt for upgrading to a 20D or getting another lens, I got the lens instead. I simply couldn't justify $500 for the extra features of the 20D. ISO3200 would be nice, but it's also a bit soft. 5fps would be handy, but I hardly ever use burst mode anyway. The rest of the extras were peanuts to me.

SpAtZ
Feb 14, 2006, 07:20 PM
Watch for the PMA's at the end of this month for updates to the 20d! You could get a great price on a 20d if an upgrade is announced. That is what I am currently looking to do.

ziwi
Feb 14, 2006, 08:45 PM
Don't forget the rebates - Canon seems to offer triple rebates 2x a year around April - June and October - January.

It made my $$$ go farther.

fuzzwud
Feb 14, 2006, 10:47 PM
Don't forget the rebates - Canon seems to offer triple rebates 2x a year around April - June and October - January.

It made my $$$ go farther.

Yep, I just received my **triple** rebate check for $380 today. I got the XT, 100mm Macro, and the iP6600D printer. I wanted to get another canon lens but between my choices, it was not on the list or too costly still. The printer is a great 3rd item to get that qualifies for triple rebate. It's basically half price after rebate.

I got a 28-75 mm Tamron with Macro and a Tokina 14-20 mm for wide. I'd like the 17-40 mm L but that will have to wait. The 100mm Macro is superb. I love the USM.

arogge
Feb 15, 2006, 12:19 AM
If you like the 350D, buy it. The 20D has better ergonomics and build quality, but the 350D is good for beginners.

Poeben
Feb 15, 2006, 12:19 AM
No one mentioned the size/weight/feel of the xt vs 20d. I was all set to buy an xt---until I actually picked one up. The xt is quite small compared to the 20d and also much lighter and cheaper feeling. If you have small-medium size hands and want something light and portable, the xt should be fine. In my opinion though, the 20d is a huge step up from the xt. The xt feels like a toy whereas the 20d feels more professional.

good luck

geoffism
Feb 15, 2006, 08:15 AM
No one mentioned the size/weight/feel of the xt vs 20d. I was all set to buy an xt---until I actually picked one up. The xt is quite small compared to the 20d and also much lighter and cheaper feeling. If you have small-medium size hands and want something light and portable, the xt should be fine. In my opinion though, the 20d is a huge step up from the xt. The xt feels like a toy whereas the 20d feels more professional.

Glad someone finally mentioned this.

I think it is a big difference. The heft of the body (actually feel the camera, makes it more stable in your hand) and the size - the controls are not sqeezed together. They are in convenient spots. I'll also say that the feel of the body (mag vs plastic) is a considerable difference too. I've had 2 friends sell their XT's on craigslist & ebay after messing around with my 20d.

But, it really just depends on what you want. In my opinion, the Rebel XT is for someone who really doesn't know what they are doing and want to have the camera manage the settings. The 20d is more expensive, but it's whether or not you want the extra capabilities is you ever need to use them (like shooting 5 fps or knocking a picture out at ISO 3200).

Personally, I'd spend the extra $$ and get the 20D. Good Luck!

TheMasin9
Feb 15, 2006, 09:12 AM
thats one thing i noticed too, i have bigger hands and the 20d def felt better in my hand than the rebel. I am looking at some of the ebay auctions that have massive combos for camera, flashmemory, tripods, lenses etc for around 1k-1.2k for the rebel and 1.3k-1.6k for the 20d, i thinik this might be one of the best ways to go since ill get a whole starter kit, plus the 20d starts at like 1500 in stores and te rebele starts at lik 800+

makisushi
Feb 15, 2006, 09:29 AM
I bought the Rebel XT because of two reasons both that have been mentioned. Price. I have small hands, so the Canon felt much more comfortable.

geoffism
Feb 15, 2006, 10:31 AM
thats one thing i noticed too, i have bigger hands and the 20d def felt better in my hand than the rebel. I am looking at some of the ebay auctions that have massive combos for camera, flashmemory, tripods, lenses etc for around 1k-1.2k for the rebel and 1.3k-1.6k for the 20d, i thinik this might be one of the best ways to go since ill get a whole starter kit, plus the 20d starts at like 1500 in stores and te rebele starts at lik 800+
There are definitely some good deals to be had on eBay. Personally, I would buy the body and starter lens (like a 35-70) and stop there. That's when I would use my local photo shop. go during the day and get one of the "smarter guys" to talk you through some lenses. The majority of guys that are in there are serious amatuers or ex-pros, and they will ask you about your shooting habits and direct you in your lense purchases. Merely just a suggestion.
A lot of the eBay listings for the bigger kits are from this shop in Brooklyn, and from what I understand, they are a real hassle to deal with (it's the too good to be true pricing).

Good Luck!
-g

ChrisA
Feb 15, 2006, 01:33 PM
... i am considering getting into the slr market and i have been doing a little bit of shopping through cameras. I have taken a liking to the digital rebel xt and the 20d....

How did you decide to go with the Canon lineup? Other companies make DSLRs too,. Nikon and Olympus come to mind If you'd tell usthen maybe we'd know something about what you think is importent in cameras.

TheMasin9
Feb 15, 2006, 06:05 PM
i dont really know how i decided on canon, i have just heard really good things about the lineup and many of my photography friends have canons. if anyone can recommend a comparable other brand camera both in features, quality, and price (possible ebay bundles) then im open to that as well.

barneygumble
Feb 15, 2006, 06:19 PM
How did you decide to go with the Canon lineup? Other companies make DSLRs too,. Nikon and Olympus come to mind If you'd tell usthen maybe we'd know something about what you think is importent in cameras.

I keep hearing that caonon lenses are better than nikons though, any comments on that.

arogge
Feb 15, 2006, 06:29 PM
I heard that Tamron and Sigma lenses are better because they're cheaper. :p Both Canon and Nikkor make excellent lenses.

arogge
Feb 15, 2006, 06:44 PM
Nikon is the closest competitor to Canon, but Canon is dominant in the industry.

ChrisA
Feb 15, 2006, 07:07 PM
I keep hearing that caonon lenses are better than nikons though, any comments on that.

Canon and Nikon each make a range of lenses. Some of Canon's might be better then some of Nikons' and vice versa. You have to look at each lens

I think Canon makes a wider range of qualityies. Some of the low-end Canon lenses have a real cheap plastic "feel" to them. But resetly Nikon did introduce a couple low-end lenes so they could offer the d50 with lens at a low kit price. At the high end they are both very good. The Canon "L Series" lens are as good as Nikon. But if you are not planning to buy "Canon L" and insted are buying Canon consumer grade then the argument that "Canon is better" is just plain wrong.

It's like saying "GM must build good cars because thier Corvet goes 200 MPH" but if you are shopping for a mini-van corvet is irrelevent. Same with lenese.

One thing about Nikon is they they have not changed the "F Mount" so all the older manual focus lenses still fit on the new bodies but with some restrictions.

ChrisA
Feb 15, 2006, 07:18 PM
i dont really know how i decided on canon, i have just heard really good things about the lineup and many of my photography friends have canons. if anyone can recommend a comparable other brand camera both in features, quality, and price (possible ebay bundles) then im open to that as well.

First off don't buy camers on ebay or from ANYONE in Brookland NY who offers a very low pice. Ask around for some dealer who is 100% reputable and do a google search on any place you don't know. unlike online resellers in other areas many online discount camera dealers are total scum. But many are good. Do your homework.

If you can afford a Canon 20d you should look at the Nikon D200

Some of the things to look at are how the light meter works and the flash system and also just basic handling and if the controls seem natural to you. Look at the light meter system and the flash metering

You have to actually hold the camers in your hands long enough so you can remember what is is like after you've walked out of the store.

That said, you wll do find with any of the current model DSLRs

amin
Feb 15, 2006, 08:19 PM
Tough decision. I bought the XT and love it. The main things that appeal to me about the 20D are better AF and larger viewfinder. The build quality on the XT is fine, though the 20D build is even better. No regrets here with my decision. I wouldn't buy the 20D for higher ISO, but would spend the extra cash if you are going to shoot mainly action photography.

TheMasin9
Feb 15, 2006, 10:25 PM
First off don't buy camers on ebay or from ANYONE in Brookland NY who offers a very low pice. Ask around for some dealer who is 100% reputable and do a google search on any place you don't know. unlike online resellers in other areas many online discount camera dealers are total scum. But many are good. Do your homework.

why should i not buy from ebay? there is a buyer protection policy correct? and if the feedback is right, why not?

arogge
Feb 15, 2006, 11:00 PM
Unless this has changed since I quit using eBay for anything except low-value items, the eBay buyer "protection" pays only up to $500, and eBay feedback profiles can be stolen by fraudulent users.

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 15, 2006, 11:06 PM
A bit late to this dance.

I own the XT and it is a great camera for my needs. Save for my recent purchase of the D59 for the great 18-200VR and and the 10.5 fish-eye.

What the 20D gives is faster FPS. And better AF with lenses with a 2.8 aperture. Along with a better 'feeling" body. Being a Lieca user many of the advantages of the 20D were a loss for me.

synergy
Feb 16, 2006, 08:44 AM
I just bought an XT and it is a great camera. The body is smaller compared to my 35mm EOS A2, but I can live with it. For the price I paid and the features I get it is enough to fill my needs. I would consider myself a prosumer not a pro though. Of course if you were a pro you might consider the bigger dollar higher MP Canon cameras. I went with the Canon since I already had a Canon 35mm and can use my existing lenses. Takes great pictures. The full auto mode allows you to set it and forget it and just take pictures. Or you can play around with the settings.

ziwi
Feb 16, 2006, 10:09 AM
I bought the XT and everyone talks about the size vs the 20d - I would think most people that will be making this decision are moving from a point and shoot and they are smaller than the XT - so I don't think size matters - when you have lenses on it one would be holding the lens and not the camera alone anyway...
I do agree that the additional focus points are nice in the 20d - but not for the additional $$ in my estimation. The price for the 20d may be easier if something new is announced to replace it next week.

ChrisA
Feb 16, 2006, 11:32 AM
why should i not buy from ebay? there is a buyer protection policy correct? and if the feedback is right, why not?

Just ry using it. Ebay is paid for by sellers and it set up to favor them.

The typical scam goes like this: You find a Nikon D50 offered at $475 and you kow they typically sell for $550 everywhwe so you jump on the $475 deal. They run your visa card or you paypall account an sit on the cash. You call them an they claim to be "out of stock" but they do have some package deal left that include extra baterys a filer and an extended warenty for only $650. You say no and they hang up on you. So you try to get your money pack and after several weeks you get a refund but lass a "rstocking fee" of 20% so you ask for the 20% back and go trhrough another 90 day process with your credit card company. The above happens not infrequently. See for yourself. Do a search of "canon 350D" on google find the places with the ultra low prices then do a serch on the names of the shops. (Google will find archive of formums (like this one) and archives of email lists.) Next do a search on "B & H Photo" and you will find 95% of the comments are positive. It's not all one way. All I said was "Do your homework"

And on Ebay tthe scammers there might have 100 Ebay aounts and run each other's rating up by having each send posive feedback to the others. This is a great way for a pawnshop owner to unload junk. These guys are professionals, and spend weeks and months thinking about it, don't think you can outsmart them

On the other hand I've sold camera equipment on eBay and I know I was not out to rip anyone off. There are good sellers out there. Just don't trust the feedback system. It is to easy to "game" it and there is huge incentive to do it.

All you need to do is ask on the various photography forums where is a good place to buy. You'll get many refferals.

-hh
Feb 16, 2006, 04:07 PM
I keep hearing that caonon lenses are better than nikons though, any comments on that.


If you already own a Canon body, you'll find that Canon lenses generally fit onto it better than Nikon lenses :)



-hh

SpAtZ
Feb 16, 2006, 04:27 PM
Just ry using it. Ebay is paid for by sellers and it set up to favor them.

The typical scam goes like this: You find a Nikon D50 offered at $475 and you kow they typically sell for $550 everywhwe so you jump on the $475 deal. They run your visa card or you paypall account an sit on the cash. You call them an they claim to be "out of stock" but they do have some package deal left that include extra baterys a filer and an extended warenty for only $650. You say no and they hang up on you. So you try to get your money pack and after several weeks you get a refund but lass a "rstocking fee" of 20% so you ask for the 20% back and go trhrough another 90 day process with your credit card company. The above happens not infrequently. See for yourself. Do a search of "canon 350D" on google find the places with the ultra low prices then do a serch on the names of the shops. (Google will find archive of formums (like this one) and archives of email lists.) Next do a search on "B & H Photo" and you will find 95% of the comments are positive. It's not all one way. All I said was "Do your homework"

And on Ebay tthe scammers there might have 100 Ebay aounts and run each other's rating up by having each send posive feedback to the others. This is a great way for a pawnshop owner to unload junk. These guys are professionals, and spend weeks and months thinking about it, don't think you can outsmart them

On the other hand I've sold camera equipment on eBay and I know I was not out to rip anyone off. There are good sellers out there. Just don't trust the feedback system. It is to easy to "game" it and there is huge incentive to do it.

All you need to do is ask on the various photography forums where is a good place to buy. You'll get many refferals.


I have bought a ton of camera equiptment from ebay and never had a problem once. Your in pretty good shape getting it on ebay as long as it is a store with over a thousand good comments. I have bought my 300d and PV-GS250 with out any problems. Also, 2 fairly exspensive lens and got great deals on CF.

Mike Teezie
Feb 16, 2006, 05:28 PM
Lots of good info here.

For what it's worth, I wish I would have gotten the 20D instead of the XT. Mainly because of the feel of the 20D versus the XT. Add a battery grip, and the 20D feels about perfect to me. But I have large hands, so your opinion could vary.

I'm thinking of selling my XT and getting a 20D if I can find a good deal on a body.

geoffism
Feb 16, 2006, 06:08 PM
Even if you aren't going to buy from them, go into a Wolf Camera or Ritz or whoever. THink of it as car shopping, no matter what they offer you, don't buy at the moment.
Make the sales guy spend some time with you on both cameras. pop off 100 shots on each, think about what you would be taking pictures of and what you might need the camera for. I mean, in reality, you are going to drop $1k or so on camera equipment. Make em work.
If you put yourself in a "shooting situation", you might be able to come to a simple decision. I believe with both cameras there is not a bad decision - they are both quality. The 20d just has a little more range.

As far as eBay goes, it's essentially buyer beware. You never know 100%. I've sold and bought enough on eBay, but I've heard some real horror stories.

Good luck!

jlyssy
Feb 16, 2006, 07:40 PM
EBay has it's share of great sellers, but some stink it up for others. Just got a lens from B&H; good service and a fair price.

This is the first forum I've found combining Macs and Digital Photography.

Jim

Clix Pix
Feb 16, 2006, 09:01 PM
This is the first forum I've found combining Macs and Digital Photography.

Jim

Actually, Dpreview.com has a Mac forum; scroll down towards the bottom of the listing of forums and you'll see it.

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 16, 2006, 09:24 PM
Actually, Dpreview.com has a Mac forum; scroll down towards the bottom of the listing of forums and you'll see it.

That is if you can get past the whining and bitching that goes on over there. Never looked at their Mac forum; but the rest of them need a big grain of salt IMO.

sjl
Feb 16, 2006, 09:39 PM
I'm coming in late to the game, but here's my personal take on it. I already had a Canon EOS 30 (film SLR), with three lenses: the 50mm f/1.8, the 75-300mm USM (third model), and the 28-105mm USM, so going with a Canon body was pretty much a no brainer.

When I went shopping, I knew pretty much what I wanted to do with it: wildlife photography. This means long lenses. I was going to use the 75-300 until I could afford something better, but one shot was enough to persuade me that it's a piece of junk (harder to tell on film, but digital really showed up the flaws. Hooray for a generous co-worker that has a 70-200 f/2.8 IS gathering dust ...) Anyway.

I tried both out in the shop, and had no particular problem with the feel of either. The girl showing me the bodies (who happened to be my cousin ... what a strange coincidence ... :D ) was pushing me towards the 20D, but I couldn't see any good reason for me to do so. Eventually, on the advice of another friend, I asked her to get down the 100-400mm L series lens (which weighs around 1.3 kg), and put it on the two bodies.

That sold me on the 20D: the feel of that lens on the 350D (the Australian version of the Rebel XT) was not a good one. It felt almost -- not quite, but almost -- like it was threatening to fall off; the camera body didn't counterbalance the weight of the lens ... it just felt plain wrong, and very fragile. On the 20D, though, it felt pretty solid.

There's nothing wrong with the 350D. If you're not going to be particularly serious with your photography, it will do the job, and do it well. But if you want a body that will last a long time, and which will stand up a bit better to the rigours of a long day of shooting, I'd recommend the 20D.

In short: know what you intend to do with the camera, and what the limitations are. Build quality may or may not be worth the extra money to you; the other advantages of the 20D are really just icing on the cake, at least for me. I'm certainly not going to say "don't buy the 350D", because I don't know where you intend to take your photography; the 20D may well be overkill for your needs. I can't judge that. All I can say is "this is what I went through, and this is why I chose the model I chose", and hope it's of use to you.

Good luck ... and if anybody tries to sell you a Canon 75-300mm lens, laugh in their face. It's not worth the money.

Anybody want to buy mine? :D (I'd post the pic that shows why I'm so down on that particular lens, but it's about 1.7 MB. Too big for most free web hosts ... any suggestions? I don't want to reduce it, as that would reduce the artifacts ...)

Clix Pix
Feb 16, 2006, 09:44 PM
That is if you can get past the whining and bitching that goes on over there. Never looked at their Mac forum; but the rest of them need a big grain of salt IMO.

Actually the Mac forum isn't too bad,but I sure know what you mean about the other forums -- whew! A lot of Nikon users have migrated over to Nikon Cafe for that very reason. I don't know if there's an equivalent place for Canonites to call home or not, but if there isn't, someone ought to take the initiative and start up their own websites and forums the way they did with Nikon Cafe. It's really a nice site at Nikon Cafe, free from a lot of the whining, one-upmanship and bashing that you see on DPreview's forums, and also free of the adverts that you run into on the Nikonians site.

The Mac forum on DPreview is pretty useful, with a lot of info for someone who is considering switching and a lot of discussion of new software as it comes out (Aperture, for instance). There's usually a fair amount of "I do this type of shooting/post-processing: should I go with a Power Mac or is an iMac enough?" There's not a lot of bashing (except, of course, of Windoze!) and it's more about how the Mac can be a useful tool in someone's overall photography experience rather than about which camera gear someone uses.

iGary
Feb 16, 2006, 09:47 PM
That is if you can get past the whining and bitching that goes on over there. Never looked at their Mac forum; but the rest of them need a big grain of salt IMO.

I got really tired of DPReviews forums.

You'll learn a lot more and get advice from far more advanced (and polite) photographers at Fred Miranda.

I freaking despise the "Pro Talk" forum at DPReview. It's like you need a license to post in there.

TheMasin9
Feb 17, 2006, 09:27 AM
so, im thinkin i am slowly being pushed to the 20d, alot of people say the build quality is far superiour to the rebel, which i felt myself. how the the other minor features stack up(focus points etc).

also, what size microdrive/flash do you recommend and how much would each hold shooting at max resolution.

wheezy
Feb 17, 2006, 10:16 AM
I started off with the Digital Rebel 300D, and then upgraded to the 20D. Granted my Rebel wasn't the XT, but the 20D just blew it out of the water, and the Digital Rebel wasn't a bad camera at all.

First off, the spin wheel on the back is MUCH better than the 4 buttons offered on the XT. ISO3200 IS useful for night time pics. I picked up a Canon 50mm f/1.8 for $60 on Amazon and you can take pictures on dark nights ISO3200 and have no camera shake. If you set it to BW mode, you have no noise even at ISO3200.

My Rebel did 2.5fps, the 20D does 5. It's so fast, and, the buffer is where you'll really notice it. My Rebel did 4 frames that fast, then delay, the 20D can go for 25 or so. I believe the buffer on the XT is pretty shallow compared to the 20D.

RAW+JPG - 20D can...can the XT (I don't know)...

Go for the 20D, or wait a little while and see if a replacement comes out.

TheMasin9
Feb 17, 2006, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE=wheezy}

Go for the 20D, or wait a little while and see if a replacement comes out.[/QUOTE]
how soon is a replacement coming for the 20d and how much do you think the price will drop?

ziwi
Feb 17, 2006, 02:03 PM
Could be a replacement for it as early as Monday...PMA 2006.

Rickay726
Feb 18, 2006, 10:13 AM
i no my friend has the digital rebel XT and he loves it. picutres are amazing quality.

TheMasin9
Feb 19, 2006, 10:05 PM
what kind of updates are expected at pma?

jonv
Feb 21, 2006, 07:46 AM
20D replacement details


http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/21/canon-eos-30d-announced/

hightowermusic
Mar 13, 2006, 02:22 AM
I have the 20d as well as the rebel xt. I bought the xt first. I had several lenses from my canon 35 mm's. I love my xt, when I had the chance to get the 20d with 2 lenses for $800.00 I almost wet my self. It was only a month old & I new it was from a person who is meticulas about care. I love my 20d as much as my xt. I am moving into the professional field next year as a wedding photographer. I know all about the faults with digital photo's & lace dresses. Ok back to the debate. The 3 to 5 fps is not really useful unless you are taking burst shots in high action situation. Is it good to have? Yes Is it necessary? No. How about 8 mp to 8.2. This is not a noticable feature, unless you are blowing up large photo's. The few pixel difference is not a concern. The 3200 iso compared to the 1600 iso is a big difference for me because I take alot of low light photo's at my mobile DJ jobs. As far as the larger lenses not feeling right on my xt. That is true. I added the battery grip & it helped alot. The 20d size & look is more professional. Now the real dirt...I took them both to Disney World. I had the 20d & my wife had the xt after 1 day(14 hours) I knew that my 20d would stay & my xt would be going with me for the rest of the trip. The lighter smaller plastic body & smaller 18-55 &80-200mm lenses made the difference. For every non professional use the rebel xt gets the pick. If you need a larger, heavier more durable body go with the 20d. The xt has everything you will need for any camera use. Save some $ & buy the battery grip, better lenses, speedlite & 2 gig or larger flash card. I am now considering selling my 20d to upgrade to the 5d, maybe even the mark II series. I will never get rid of my xt. Hope this short book will help.
Next forum...the xt & 20d vs. the 5d...........

hightowermusic
Mar 13, 2006, 02:23 AM
I have the 20d as well as the rebel xt. I bought the xt first. I had several lenses from my canon 35 mm's. I love my xt, when I had the chance to get the 20d with 2 lenses for $800.00 I almost wet my self. It was only a month old & I new it was from a person who is meticulas about care. I love my 20d as much as my xt. I am moving into the professional field next year as a wedding photographer. I know all about the faults with digital photo's & lace dresses. Ok back to the debate. The 3 to 5 fps is not really useful unless you are taking burst shots in high action situation. Is it good to have? Yes Is it necessary? No. How about 8 mp to 8.2. This is not a noticable feature, unless you are blowing up large photo's. The few pixel difference is not a concern. The 3200 iso compared to the 1600 iso is a big difference for me because I take alot of low light photo's at my mobile DJ jobs. As far as the larger lenses not feeling right on my xt. That is true. I added the battery grip & it helped alot. The 20d size & look is more professional. Now the real dirt...I took them both to Disney World. I had the 20d & my wife had the xt after 1 day(14 hours) I knew that my 20d would stay & my xt would be going with me for the rest of the trip. The lighter smaller plastic body & smaller 18-55 &80-200mm lenses made the difference. For every non professional use the rebel xt gets the pick. If you need a larger, heavier more durable body go with the 20d. The xt has everything you will need for any camera use. Save some $ & buy the battery grip, better lenses, speedlite & 2 gig or larger flash card. I am now considering selling my 20d to upgrade to the 5d, maybe even the mark II series. I will never get rid of my xt. Hope this short book will help.
Next forum...the xt & 20d vs. the 5d...........