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iGary
Feb 15, 2006, 10:05 AM
I was hoping some folks could share some good sites on WordPress and perhaps some tutorials on getting it up and running (MySQL etc.).

Thanks.



kgarner
Feb 15, 2006, 10:58 AM
Are you trying to get it running on your local machine or your hosting service? If its the former, there is a great tutorial on maczealots.com (just google for wordpress os x, it should be the first one). If its the latter, then you just need to edit the config file with the right info (your hosting service can get that for you), then you just upload it and go to www.yoursite.tld/wp-admin/install.php. They ask a few questions and then you're done.

iGary
Feb 15, 2006, 11:10 AM
Are you trying to get it running on your local machine or your hosting service? If its the former, there is a great tutorial on maczealots.com (just google for wordpress os x, it should be the first one). If its the latter, then you just need to edit the config file with the right info (your hosting service can get that for you), then you just upload it and go to www.yoursite.tld/wp-admin/install.php. They ask a few questions and then you're done.

Don't know which I plan to run it on. Suggestions? (I'm a Web idiot).

link92
Feb 15, 2006, 11:19 AM
Don't know which I plan to run it on. Suggestions? (I'm a Web idiot).
Do you want it on your computer (and therefore not accessible from the web) or on some web host or other (and accessible from the web)? (Or are you meaning something else)?

bokdol
Feb 15, 2006, 11:25 AM
i use word press on my site. my site is hosted by godaddy. you have to make sure that my slq database is set up. other then that you upload it to a folder and you can link it right up. also read the intstall instructions that wordpress provides. they make it very easy if you follow closely. soon i will try a different theam on the site and maybe changing some of the graphics too.

my site is

www.bokdol.com

my wordpress blog is

www.bokdol.com/blog

iGary
Feb 15, 2006, 12:19 PM
Do you want it on your computer (and therefore not accessible from the web) or on some web host or other (and accessible from the web)? (Or are you meaning something else)?

Ah - OK, I thought you could edit it on the home machine, and then just upload it to the server.

Already have a hosting service, just need something down and dirty while I re-learn all this Web crap.

kgarner
Feb 15, 2006, 12:55 PM
You can keep a local version for playing with designs and such. I have one that I use to test stuff out. Then you can just copy things over tot he server when you are ready. The only caveat is that they share two different databases so the content will be different and you have to remember to turn on plugins and switch themes when you do the upload. Not a big deal, just have to make sure you remember to do it.

iGary
Feb 15, 2006, 12:58 PM
Screw it, I think I will use Rapidweaver.

Sounds like a pain in the ass.

zimv20
Feb 15, 2006, 01:10 PM
Then you can just copy things over tot he server when you are ready. The only caveat is that they share two different databases so the content will be different
i wonder how well it would work to upload the db. the only way i know how to do it w/ mysql would involve dropping the entire db on the target server and creating it from a backed up file.

anyone try this with the wordpress db?

cr2sh
Feb 15, 2006, 01:32 PM
WordPress 2.0 is a nice improvement over the old version.. if you're going to play with one make sure its the newest.

There is a huge selection of themes available and Andreas has some fantastic CSS templates that were duplicated into WP themes, making nearly seamless integrartion into your website.

We just did this over a Greencastle. (http://www.greencastle.ws) Caution: Greencastle will likely be offensive to a lot of people. It's brand new and there's little content up.

Josh
Feb 15, 2006, 01:44 PM
You can instal MAMP on your home machine, install WordPress on your home machine, and depending on which you do first (set up WordPress on your site or home mac), you can either upload your local DB to your website, or download the DB from your website to your local machine. That way the content will be identical.

You can then edit any file you like, and transfer it to/from your local computer and your website.

CocoaMySQL is AWESOME for working with databases and making changes and things.

iGary, if you need any help getting anything set up, feel free to PM me or email me (theres a contact form on my site in my sig) and I'd be glad to help you get up and running.

Don't give up just yet! WordPress is much easier than Rapid Weaver in the long run.

kgarner
Feb 15, 2006, 01:59 PM
i wonder how well it would work to upload the db. the only way i know how to do it w/ mysql would involve dropping the entire db on the target server and creating it from a backed up file.

anyone try this with the wordpress db?
I have backed up my online DB to my local DB. The caveat is because WordPress stores some info like the site address (which it accesses to get addresses for content) you can cause some problems since you can't have your local install at the same address as the online install.

Basically, if you export (I use phpMyAdmin) all of the tables except the Options table (usually wp-options) than it should be fine. You lose any users you have set-up and you have to re-enable your plugins and templates, but it works. Not very useful other than I have a back up of my posts, but I can try different designs and plugins on a replica of my site.

One thing I would like to do but can't with my current host would be to set-up a WordPress-MU (multi-user) set-up that uses the DB on the hosting service but exist both on the server on my machine. I can't try it because my host doesn't allow any connections to the DB except those that originate on the server itself or via SSH.

Josh
Feb 15, 2006, 02:08 PM
I have backed up my online DB to my local DB. The caveat is because WordPress stores some info like the site address (which it accesses to get addresses for content) you can cause some problems since you can't have your local install at the same address as the online install.


Check out CocoaMySQL (http://cocoamysql.sourceforge.net/). Once you download your online DB to your local machine, you can use CocoaMySQL (or even phpMyAdmin) on your local machine to just edit that particular table in your database, and change it to your local address.

kgarner
Feb 15, 2006, 02:28 PM
Check out CocoaMySQL (http://cocoamysql.sourceforge.net/). Once you download your online DB to your local machine, you can use CocoaMySQL (or even phpMyAdmin) on your local machine to just edit that particular table in your database, and change it to your local address.
Yeah you can do that too. I just forgot about that little problem once and borked my local install. I got it fixed, but in the process borked my hosted install. I didn't even discover it until the following afternoon. phpMyAdmin fixed the hosted install a lot easier than trouble I went through to fix the local install.

I think that I should try to use Automator to automate the process for me. I'll have to add it to my ever expanding list of things-I-want-to-try-to-figure-out-and-will-just-as-soon-as-I-get-some-free-time

MrSugar
Feb 17, 2006, 03:39 PM
I run wordpress on:

fluidvisiondesign.com (http://www.fluidvisiondesign.com)

A lot of web hosts now include a package called Fantastico which comes with an install for the latest version of word press. Or you can just install it, it's pretty easy as long as you have a MySql DB setup.

-Bruce

desenso
Feb 26, 2006, 10:37 AM
Screw it, I think I will use Rapidweaver.

Sounds like a pain in the ass.

If your host has Fantastico, installing WordPress involves pressing a button. If your host doesn't have Fantastico, check out http://www.asmallorange.com and look at their Tiny plan.

That'll give you a fully functional WordPress installation to do with as you please. Making themes is easy as pie - you pretty much make a CSS and style their templates, or make your own template.