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calebjohnston
Feb 15, 2006, 09:15 PM
iBook g4.

Is it possible to just plug in an external display and use it along with the laptop's screen as a second display? I've never used a second display, just thought it'd be cool to try. I'm not at home so I can't just go ahead and try it or I would have already.

Thanks.



CoMpX
Feb 15, 2006, 09:18 PM
iBook g4.

Is it possible to just plug in an external display and use it along with the laptop's screen as a second display? I've never used a second display, just thought it'd be cool to try. I'm not at home so I can't just go ahead and try it or I would have already.

Thanks.

From the factory, the iBook is only capable of screen mirroring. That is, it just shows a duplicate image of what is on it's own display on the external display. To use the iBook with the external and a second display, in other words adding more screen space, you need to use a screen spanning hack. Just do a Google search and you should find tons. I am not recommending this or anything because I have never tried it and it is NOT supported by Apple. Use at your own risk.

calebjohnston
Feb 15, 2006, 09:32 PM
Ah, that's what I figured. Bummer. I'm not going to go messing with that.

Thanks anyway.

frankblundt
Feb 15, 2006, 10:45 PM
it does work (but best for being able to bump up the external screen to a higher resolution than the LCD can do, rather than running your desktop across two screens) but using it VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY.

20rogersc
Feb 16, 2006, 06:16 PM
I've been using the Screen Spanning Doctor (http://www.rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html) for a while now and have had no problems.

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calebjohnston
Feb 16, 2006, 07:15 PM
maybe when my warranty runs out. I just bought this one, no point in voiding it now.

kahlva
Feb 17, 2006, 03:06 PM
I would LOVE to use an external monitor with my ibook G4 (1.33 ghz)

Anybody have any suggestions of the best kind? I'm looking for either a 19" or a 23/24"...

Also - can I just plug it into the iBook, or do I need to get a special cable?


Thanks!

Greg.

BlueRevolution
Feb 17, 2006, 03:11 PM
you'll need this adapter, which should have shipped with your iBook.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=M8639G%2FA

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/969/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/ibook_vga_adapter_125.jpg

frankblundt
Feb 17, 2006, 03:13 PM
it only depends whether you set a montior with a vga or dvi input and whether the iBook has a matching output. Adaptors are readily available in any case.

The iBooks are limited to mirroring however (ie you see the same thing at the same resolution as on the iBook on the external monitor) If you want spanning (the ability to have a different - higher - resolution setting on the external or the ability to "span" your desktop across both screens simultaneously) you need to hack the firmware, as described above.

kahlva
Feb 17, 2006, 03:14 PM
I do have the adapter - just wasn't sure that would be the right one.

Any recommendations of good monitors for 19", 21", 24"?

And anything else I should know? I'm using this for ProTools music, editing sessions so I need a bigger screen to see more at once.


Thanks again!

Greg

kahlva
Feb 17, 2006, 03:15 PM
Oh, and I actually do want it to be a mirror (exactly what's on the iBook screen). I don't think I need more resolution - I just need to a larger screen!

Umm...right?


Thanks again again,

A guy who thought he knew something about computers at one time...

2nyRiggz
Feb 17, 2006, 03:19 PM
you do know even if you mirror your vram will be split between the external monitor and ibook......the screen spanning doctor is safe i have been using it for some time now with no problems what so ever.

without the SPD....your resolution will stay at the same as the ibook so if u get a monitor with a high res...it wont look too nice.

Bless

BlueRevolution
Feb 17, 2006, 03:19 PM
if you want to see more at once you will need a higher resolution... otherwise you'll see the same stuff, only bigger ;)

kahlva
Feb 17, 2006, 03:22 PM
Ah! Really? So if I need to scroll left or right (or up or down) to see something on my iBook ...that problem is not solved with simply plugging in a larger monitor?

BlueRevolution
Feb 17, 2006, 03:24 PM
nope, not unless you have the monitor on a different resolution from the iBook.

2nyRiggz
Feb 17, 2006, 03:27 PM
nope, not unless you have the monitor on a different resolution from the iBook.

which is not possible without the SPD. sorry kid you are stuck.


Bless

calebjohnston
Feb 17, 2006, 03:27 PM
Just remember, ibook's have to be open to stay on -- even with an external display, etc attached.

There's always the hack for that too, but I don't think you want your ibook overheating and exploding into a ball of flames with reat rivaled only by the sun itself. Ouch.

kahlva
Feb 17, 2006, 03:28 PM
OK, thanks very much I think I'm clear now.

To be able to have more screen space (see more than what's on the iBook screen), I need to use that Screen Spanning Doctor hack.

Otherwise the screen will be exactly the same, just larger.

Right?

BlueRevolution
Feb 17, 2006, 03:35 PM
yep.

frankblundt
Feb 17, 2006, 03:36 PM
right. and don't shut your iBook.

shrimpdesign
Feb 17, 2006, 03:47 PM
snip ... but using it VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY.
It doesn't say anything like that on the SSD website ... or does messing with the Firmware always void the warrenty?

frankblundt
Feb 17, 2006, 03:53 PM
It doesn't say anything like that on the SSD website ... or does messing with the Firmware always void the warrenty?
maybe that was just paranoid rambling from the guys who have our tech support contract, but i thought i had read it somewhere - worth checking with Apple first in any case.

20rogersc
Feb 17, 2006, 03:58 PM
You could probably get away with it if the problem is not screen-related . . . ?
Oh well, my warranty's ended now anyway :p

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