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simie
Feb 21, 2006, 03:36 PM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022114canoneos30d.asp

The EOS 30D features

8.2 Megapixel APS-C size CMOS sensor
5 fps and 30 large JPEG frame burst
2.5, 230K pixel, 170 wide viewing angle LCD screen
Picture Style image processing parameters
Spot metering and High Precision 9-point AF system
DIGIC II image processor with 0.15 sec start-up time
Digital Photo Professional RAW processing software
100,000 cycle shutter durability and rugged magnesium alloy body
Simultaneous RAW and JPEG recording
Wide 100-3200 ISO range
E-TTL II Flash
PictBridge compatibility
Complete compatibility with all Canon EF and EF-S lenses and EX-series Speedlites
USB 2.0 Hi-Speed and Video Out connectivity



SpAtZ
Feb 21, 2006, 04:34 PM
That does not look like much of an improvement.

bousozoku
Feb 21, 2006, 04:46 PM
That does not look like much of an improvement.

It probably isn't but it keeps the 3rd party lens makers off-balance, keeping Canon in charge of their lens monopoly.

Otto Rehhagel
Feb 21, 2006, 06:34 PM
They should have called it the 20Ds, or 20D mkII.

The 30D implies that it made a jump worthy of 2 megapixels and other enhancements. Canon is just too comfortable in their leadership position in the dslr market for them to introduce any true improvements. If they don't have to improve, they won't. Says a lot about the competition.

On another note, I guess the limits have been reached as far as how many pixels can be packed onto a sensor before noise becomes an issue. Nikon looks pretty good with their D200 though. I am in the market for a dslr, and am still confused with who to do with. I'll be shooting my trusting 35mm slide film for now.;)

snap58
Feb 21, 2006, 07:04 PM
It probably isn't but it keeps the 3rd party lens makers off-balance, keeping Canon in charge of their lens monopoly.

So just how does a minor (Camera) upgrade keep 3rd party lens makers off-balance?

iGary
Feb 21, 2006, 07:06 PM
Same FPS with a 7 image increase in the buffer?

And a bigger LCD screen - um, whoopee.

Err...

SpAtZ
Feb 21, 2006, 07:27 PM
Will the price of the 20d go down?

homerjward
Feb 21, 2006, 07:34 PM
whoo! it's got numerous improvements such as spot metering and a bigger screen...errm...ok. :confused:

*really shouldnt talk about this stuff cause he only has a d50 and is very, very amateur*

bousozoku
Feb 21, 2006, 07:39 PM
So just how does a minor (Camera) upgrade keep 3rd party lens makers off-balance?

Canon generally change the firmware in each body in how it reacts to lenses. Often, third party lenses cannot work with some Canon bodies. Other camera makers don't go out of their way to make their lens interface incompatible.

Rower_CPU
Feb 21, 2006, 08:02 PM
Will the price of the 20d go down?

Looks like the 30D effectively replaces the 20D and comes in under the previous 20D price.

Now that Canon's finally done this I get to start my DSLR shopping in earnest - 30D vs D200.

bigbossbmb
Feb 21, 2006, 09:31 PM
The price of the 30D ($1399) is less than the initial price of the 20D ($1499 i think)... but the 20D now sells for ~$1150.

Canon is going to continue making the 20D for a little while, as the 30D is not a replacement as much as an upgraded version.

I am definitely getting a 30D in about 6 weeks when my birthday rolls around.

...can't wait to be 21

Rower_CPU
Feb 21, 2006, 09:50 PM
The price of the 30D ($1399) is less than the initial price of the 20D ($1499 i think)... but the 20D now sells for ~$1150.

Canon is going to continue making the 20D for a little while, as the 30D is not a replacement as much as an upgraded version.

I am definitely getting a 30D in about 6 weeks when my birthday rolls around.

...can't wait to be 21

Thanks for the clarification and pre-emptive congratulations on the new camera. :)

-hh
Feb 21, 2006, 10:09 PM
That does not look like much of an improvement.


I agree that the improvements don't seem worthy of a "name jump".

As for me, I don't really care about the bigger LCD screen. What I saw in the specifications was (in my personal priority order):

Real Spot metering
10% better battery life
Longer 5fps 'burst' mode (11 RAW).


Thus said, if someone might be interested in paying a good dollar for a barely used 20D, I'd be inclined to move up...just not sure how much its really would be worth to me.


-hh

Abstract
Feb 21, 2006, 10:12 PM
Canon 20D owners everywhere are probably celebrating the fact that their 20D is still good in comparison to this thing.

The D200 also looks better now.

sarae
Feb 22, 2006, 12:05 AM
I'm glad this thing was finally announced, I've been wanting a dslr for awhile but wanted to wait until the 20d's replacement was announced so I could decide which to get. This lack of a significant upgrade has pretty much pushed me fully to the 20d, hopefully at a reduced price.

bigbossbmb, do you have any sources for saying that the 20d will continue to be made by Canon? Pretty much everything I've heard (and, who knows how accurate those are) points to Canon just selling out its stock, and not making any more. Yet the 20d is still on Canon's web site, so... who knows.

Counterfit
Feb 22, 2006, 12:34 AM
Canon generally change the firmware in each body in how it reacts to lenses. Often, third party lenses cannot work with some Canon bodies. Other camera makers don't go out of their way to make their lens interface incompatible.
Of course, their "monopoly" on lenses (for their own camera system) has nothing to do with making top notch lenses (L series anyone?)

bousozoku
Feb 22, 2006, 12:37 AM
Of course, their "monopoly" on lenses (for their own camera system) has nothing to do with making top notch lenses (L series anyone?)

Including all of their refurbished L-series lenses?

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 22, 2006, 06:24 AM
Canon generally change the firmware in each body in how it reacts to lenses. Often, third party lenses cannot work with some Canon bodies. Other camera makers don't go out of their way to make their lens interface incompatible.


Generally not as bad as you paint it. Tamron and Tokina based on my experiences have had few if any "chip" issues. Sigma seems to be the one that this comes up the most often with.

50thVert
Feb 23, 2006, 08:53 PM
Awesome camera...makes me wish i had a better paying job.