iPod Video Photo [Archive] - Page 5

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 11:21 AM

This proves my Earlier Point. which was

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Notice the side of the image they are using a thicker plastic like the 1 and 2 G I pods

I got stuck on Sharp Point once. I still have a mark on my butt.

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Uhh, that photo could very well be fake. Even if it were real, the thickness of the plastic may turn out different, depending on when it's released. And more scratch-resistant would be better than thicker plastic of a scratchable nature.

janitorC7

Feb 25, 2006, 11:25 AM

I got stuck on Sharp Point once. I still have a mark on my butt.

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Uhh, that photo could very well be fake. Even if it were real, the thickness of the plastic may turn out different, depending on when it's released. And more scratch-resistant would be better than thicker plastic of a scratchable nature.

my point is simply that, the plastic on the ipod seems the sam if not similar to that if the 1&2 Gen iPods

gorkonapple

Feb 25, 2006, 11:27 AM

If it's a fake, it's REALLY well done.
Seems at least PLAUSIBLE.

This looks like crap.

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 11:30 AM

Paste the Chinese character(s) (or ANY symbol, like the joystick in my sig) here:
http://www.pinyin.info/tools/converter/chars2uninumbers.html

Copy the resulting Unicode strings and use them in your post. BUT if you preview or edit the post at all, the characters will change from Unicode to real characters, which then show up to everyone as question marks. So if you edit or preview, be sure to paste the Unicode numbers in AGAIN. Any time you Submit a post, the characters must be in Unicode form.

Groan...no really, thank you, I was wondering how to do that. But shoot, that's a pain in the neck. I'd rather just type it up and upload as a pic (sorry to be a burden on the bandwidth or whatever).

maestro55

Feb 25, 2006, 11:35 AM

I bet Steve Jobs is laughing right now. Its all a hoax and there wont even be a new ipod at the event tuesday.

Wouldnt that just suck?

"Im terribly thrilled about this, THE NEW...no its not an ipod Intel Mac Mini."
Millions of hearts break all at once.

No, it wouldn't suck. I don't care to much for this current mock-up of the iPod video. I also don't think it is time to release a 6th generation iPod. Not unless they could offer a really good design, better battery life, and additions to the interface. How about adding .ogg to the firmware while they are at it?

sunna

Feb 25, 2006, 11:45 AM

So you guys figured out its not a new ipod? That stinks i was so hoping it was a new one, guess ill just go ahead and buy the video ipod now.

janitorC7

Feb 25, 2006, 11:58 AM

So you guys figured out its not a new ipod? That stinks i was so hoping it was a new one, guess ill just go ahead and buy the video ipod now.

This IS without a doubt a real product

nagromme

Feb 25, 2006, 12:00 PM

So you guys figured out its not a new ipod? That stinks i was so hoping it was a new one, guess ill just go ahead and buy the video ipod now.
May as well wait for Tueday's "fun" announcement.

SOME people are convinced it's real, SOME are convinced it's not, and SOME (like me) are waiting and seeing.

Glenn Wolsey

Feb 25, 2006, 12:03 PM

So you guys figured out its not a new ipod? That stinks i was so hoping it was a new one, guess ill just go ahead and buy the video ipod now.

Just wait for Tuesday. Its not that far away and it saves you from been totally pissed off...

sunna

Feb 25, 2006, 12:03 PM

But whatever it is it certainly isnt a new ipod right?

Glenn Wolsey

Feb 25, 2006, 12:08 PM

But whatever it is it certainly isnt a new ipod right?

We dont really know. It could be anything, however I have a strong feeling it will be a touch screen device of some sort, so an iPod could be in there.

Just wait for the iPod mate! :)

nagromme

Feb 25, 2006, 12:19 PM

But whatever it is it certainly isnt a new ipod right?
I would say IF it's real it definitely IS a new iPod, probably added on the high end or replacing the 60.

It seems to have nearly identical dimensions and bezel margin to the 5G iPod, as though they were designed around the same time (as some old rumors suggest--take with salt). Or, of course, as if this is a fake BASED on the 5G :)

In any case it's on the small side, which makes it iPod-like and not Mac-like.

Apple does seem to be getting serious about SOME kind of tablet computing (possibly in a way we've never thought of), but I don't expect any kind of touch or tablet Mac any time soon--because Apple JUST now hired someone for tablet computing. Now, maybe that person(s) was hired to get started on "version 2" and I would LOVE to see "version 1" soon, but I don't feel hopeful.

Plus, a touch-based iPod would make a nice toe in the water for potential Mac-based touch products being considered. (Just like the 5G iPod might have been a toe in the water for an all-screen video-centric iPod. Not that all-screen HAS to take the focus off of music.)

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 12:20 PM

This IS without a doubt a real product

Well, you see, it's not whether or not you have doubt that determines what Jobs releases. Nice try, but anyone who wants to spend wisely should wait for more substantial info, not just rumors, which, in turn, is wise. Duh.

If Jobs releases a 6G, great; hopefully it'll be better than the hoax. If he doesn't, he might say when he plans to, which could very well be April 1. Or, you could be left hanging. But, to continue my role as Captain Obvious, if you care so much about having a product that is not outdated for the longest possible time, you should buy when the 6G is released, since the 5G's been out a few days. Lol. Seriously, consider the contradiction - "hey guys, should I wait and buy the new one when it comes out, or won't I be able to wait until it comes out and the one I bought cuz I couldn't wait is too old?" Buy when it's a good product that satisfies you, so that when something better inevitably comes out, you're still satisfied with what you've got.

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 12:25 PM

But whatever it is it certainly isnt a new ipod right?

Just because some photo goes around on the net doesn't mean we know the limits and range of what Apple might introduce Tuesday, or April 1, or ....

You're right in the sense that the photo is likely not authentic and even if it were (in which case Apple would not have sat on its hands unless they've hired me to convince you it's fake), would not represent a guarantee that you can buy one Tuesday, this week, or ever. These are RUMORS. Words like "certainly" apply to FACTS, unless used by the overly-certain (biased people with a strong belief system). Not to say that belief and faith are bad. Or that annoying over-certain people are bad. Or that there isn't any certainty in the world. Just not considering a hoax photo.

harrydude

Feb 25, 2006, 12:29 PM

I do not think that the first image with the test pattern is real. First of all, not even looking at how the photo was taken/if its done in photoshop, I wondered that there would never be that sort of test colour pattern on an ipod/apple device. Even if Apple did have a test colour pattern, the person in China who took the picture wouldn't even have access to the test pattern. I think it is photoshopped. I mean come on. If you zoom in on the top left corner of the supposed "ipod", you see that part of the black is overlapping the frame of the "ipod". I mean you can't push and pull at the same time and say "OOO that part of the picture was photoshopped but the rest of the picture is of the new ipod." There was a second pic posted on Macshrine tha looked more like the new ipod. It didn't look photoshopped and it looked like the real deal. Someone then "proved it to be fake". There was also a third and fourth picture posted on these forums that look real (Can someone give me the URL/ what site they were from?).

I am not saying that Apple won't release a 3.5 inch screen with built in touch sensors, but I am merely saying that the "iPod" with the test pattern is not real. Apple may release the new ipod that looks familiar to the ipod with the test pattern image. I think that someone made that image to look like what he thought the iPod might be. If it turns out that the new iPod is like the test pattern image one, then people will be saying how it was infact a real ipod. The fact is that it was photoshopped, and you can't say it was a little photoshopped but the rest of the image is real (that's like saying 'a little pregnant', I reckon).

TMA

Feb 25, 2006, 12:39 PM

maestro55

Feb 25, 2006, 12:41 PM

So you guys figured out its not a new ipod? That stinks i was so hoping it was a new one, guess ill just go ahead and buy the video ipod now.

If what we are seeing here will be the answer to a new iPod, if I were you I would order me a 5th generation iPod Video. Unless you want a full screen Ipod that you willhave to hold on the sides and fear dropping it and have to worry about the screen getting dirty and all marked up. It may look nifty, but it won't after the first week or so you have it.

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 12:45 PM

that's like saying 'a little pregnant', I reckon.

Well, "little" is a relative term. A normal wife with the normal couple's normal first would be a little pregnant compared to some hugely pregnant, fertility-pill-filled bubble about to explode with 17 kids. I mean, sure, you're either pregnant or you're not, but colloquially, English is a bloody mess.

In the same sense, this photo might turn out to be any number of things.... A real iPod made to look fake, a hoax, a hoax that turned out to be close to the real deal, a hoax that a rival company copies in its product (lol), a true hoax of a fake iPod, a false real photo of a slightly fake-looking real iPod, etc. Some of those are messed up. that's why I am betting on hoax. But it's not necessarily slanderous, and how false could it be? There probably will be a 6G with a big screen, and that's about all the photo claims, if you ask me.

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 12:49 PM

And another one...

Thought this one is slightly more convincing than the others i've seen (apart from the original obviously)

EDIT: What bothers me about this one is all the 1's and 0's on the towel in the upper right corner of the image.
Perhaps they mean something? A bit like the chinese symbols we have been trying to decipher ;)

The 1's and 0's don't bother me as long as they stay in line. What bothers me is that it is some inexplicable collage (guy's head, picture of train tracks, powermac all with different lighting) that would never be an Apple ad with the quality of the 24 screenshot (was 24 even in iTMS? I don't think so...). and again, so what if it were real? What does this reveal?

harrydude

Feb 25, 2006, 12:54 PM

mustard

Feb 25, 2006, 01:02 PM

(L)

Feb 25, 2006, 01:02 PM

Ergggh.... How do you know it's a towel? this pic isnt even convincing. The screen doesn't even look 16:9... looks more in between 16:9 and 4:3...

ciao

Towel? Oh, ok i went back and read that. Sure, but look at the rim of the "iPod" - it is made to look as though shining with the same poopy brown. Really, that just looks too wrong to be an iPod pic. What kind of message is this towel or collage saying anyway?

EDIT : saw previous post. All clear. Conglomerate of powermac, 24 dvd cover, and fake ipod, all covered with a brown layer in PS or something? Still, this shows 24 fan spirit, not much else.

socamx

Feb 25, 2006, 01:09 PM

That isn't a G5, look at the bottom of it. There is no leg stand thing. Also since when are G5's only a couple inches across? Where is the power button, usb port, firewire port and headphone jack?

I don't believe this new picture one bit. When will all these fake photos stop..

TiMacLover

Feb 25, 2006, 01:15 PM

Macworld really let me know. The rumor sites had no leaked images and nothing too awesome was released.

Now having all this talk of a tablet and video iPods has made everything exciting, this whole iPod/tablet business takes me back to the iMac Flat Screen "leaks" days. :)

Vader

Feb 25, 2006, 01:19 PM

It is one of those G5 look alike hardware things.
Like a HDD, or whatever else is made to match/compliment a G5.

nkbitsch

Feb 25, 2006, 01:41 PM

Hi Guys. Just found this picture, dunno if it's fake: http://www.jp-geek.com/wp-content/vpod.jpg

A take a look at this page : http://xataka.com/archivos/2006/02/12-te-gusta-el-ipod-6g.php

harrydude

Feb 25, 2006, 01:57 PM

A take a look at this page : http://xataka.com/archivos/2006/02/12-te-gusta-el-ipod-6g.php

those links are both prototypes, and are not real.

CoMpX

Feb 25, 2006, 03:22 PM

Hi Guys. Just found this picture, dunno if it's fake: http://www.jp-geek.com/wp-content/vpod.jpg

That's definitely computer generated, and look at the rounded white edges. It's based on an old 4G iPod.

maestro55

Feb 25, 2006, 03:26 PM

those links are both prototypes, and are not real.

...and how lucky we are for that. I just don't think that that is a good design. Nifty yes, but not pratical. You would have to carry it in some kind of case, and so you would say goodbye to grabbing the iPod off the dock and putting it into your pocket. You would pull it out and the screen would be all marked up and dirty and it would have finger prints if it was a touch screen. I am going to spend the money I want something rugged.

Chuck

Feb 25, 2006, 03:43 PM

What would be the big advantage of a tablet over a laptop anyway? Aside from portability - and it wouldn't too much more portable anyway. What's the bet people would buy it, along with a separate keyboard and a stand to sit it on their desk.

All of a sudden, a laptop seems much more portable!

mongoos150

Feb 25, 2006, 03:49 PM

The full screen/touchscreen concept would work just fine - Apple just needs a new type of plastic coating. My Motorola E815's external display is scratch free - I've had the phone for a year, it's been through hell and any scratch I get from dropping it, keys in pocket, whatever - i just wipe away with my shirt. It's amazing how robust the screen is, I can't understand why Apple can't use a similar type of plastic. Most likely to fuel the accessory market :mad:

soundguynz

Feb 25, 2006, 04:34 PM

It is one of those G5 look alike hardware things.
Like a HDD, or whatever else is made to match/compliment a G5.

You are correct we have several of those drives at work.

http://www.streetwise.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=28_136&products_id=2362&osCsid=b766523aa40841a4b10102238c959f61

Not to say the "MacPod" in the pic is real just that at least the DVD cover and FWHD are.

pdpfilms

Feb 25, 2006, 04:37 PM

You are correct we have several of those drives at work.

http://www.streetwise.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=28_136&products_id=2362&osCsid=b766523aa40841a4b10102238c959f61

Not to say the "MacPod" in the pic is real just that at least the DVD cover and FWHD are.
I believe you, but you don't need a fake FWHD to photoshop an iPod.

soundguynz

Feb 25, 2006, 04:42 PM

I believe you, but you don't need a fake FWHD to photoshop an iPod.

No I totally agree with you, just someone thought it looked like a cheese grater, and i knew what is was and thought it might help with scale, I thought it might be the carefully placed screen of a little portable dvd player.

pdpfilms

Feb 25, 2006, 04:47 PM

No I totally agree with you, just someone thought it looked like a cheese grater, and i knew what is was and thought it might help with scale, I thought it might be the carefully placed screen of a little portable dvd player.
Yeah, we're on the same page. I could never argue with a New Zealander anyway.:)

CoMpX

Feb 25, 2006, 04:56 PM

Tell me if anyone agrees,but now that I look at it I noticed something. Notice the size proportion of the "iPod" in front of the DVD case. It seems very small, no? What this looks like to me is just a pic of a regular 5G iPod with the bottom cut off. Any thoughts on this?

soundguynz

Feb 25, 2006, 04:57 PM

Yeah, we're on the same page. I could never argue with a New Zealander anyway.:)

Well, we are a pretty peaceful bunch :) , You make films, I do audio for films (and other stuff) we are in the same industry, we use all Macs, you?

soundguynz

Feb 25, 2006, 05:05 PM

pdpfilms

Feb 25, 2006, 05:11 PM

Well, we are a pretty peaceful bunch :) , You make films, I do audio for films (and other stuff) we are in the same industry, we use all Macs, you?
ditto.

maestro55

Feb 25, 2006, 05:42 PM

puuukeey

Feb 25, 2006, 06:52 PM

"iPod" in front of the DVD case"

looks like a poster w/ the same image to me

CoMpX

Feb 25, 2006, 06:55 PM

Is it just me or did there used to be more posts? It seems like there were more pages and posts before. Maybe the mods removed some of the squabbling and repetitive posts.

mazola

Feb 25, 2006, 06:55 PM

Is it just me or did there used to be more posts? It seems like there were more pages and posts before. Maybe the mods removed some of the squabbling and repetitive posts.

You mean somebody reads these things?

LoMo

Feb 25, 2006, 06:58 PM

Ok, how are you getting asian characters to show up right?

Guess not, so i'll prolly give it up. Anyway, i think there's enough discussion on the characters already :) BTW, as you said, the second character is written with an extra 'dot' so it's wrong.

CoMpX

Feb 25, 2006, 06:59 PM

You mean somebody reads these things?

Yes, the moderators have to read through each and every thread in its entirety at one time or another to check for spam, unnecessary most, among other things. Can anyone confirm that like 2 pages of posts were removed, because I have about 44 or 45 pages before and now I only get 42. I did NOT change the settings that dictate how many posts to a page. It's at 25.

mazola

Feb 25, 2006, 07:14 PM

I hope they didn't delete the post that explained the Chinese characters. I'd hate to go through that again.

BTW, is this product officially deemed fake yet?

CoMpX

Feb 25, 2006, 07:21 PM

I hope they didn't delete the post that explained the Chinese characters. I'd hate to go through that again.

BTW, is this product officially deemed fake yet?

Well, there is considerable evidence that its fake, but also considerable evidence that it could be real. I think I speak for everyone when I say that no one is 100% sure. Many of us think, me being on of them, that this picture itself is not necessarily real, but a product will be released that is very similar to this. We will just have to wait a few more days and see. ;)

Chuck

Feb 25, 2006, 08:43 PM

Is it just me or did there used to be more posts? It seems like there were more pages and posts before. Maybe the mods removed some of the squabbling and repetitive posts.

Yeah I just checked and that whole squabble is gone now. Thank you!

Chuck.

nagromme

Feb 25, 2006, 11:36 PM

And another one...

Thought this one is slightly more convincing than the others i've seen (apart from the original obviously)

I dub this image "Nosey."

What this looks like to me is just a pic of a regular 5G iPod with the bottom cut off.
I think you're right. The margins seem much fatter than in the other images, and that would explain why.

What would be the big advantage of a tablet over a laptop anyway? Aside from portability - and it wouldn't too much more portable anyway.
If it were pocketable and had a pop-up on-screen keyboard, then it's much more portable (and I'd want that). Otherwise, it would mainly be for hand-jotted note-taking, and for drawing, and for "cool factor." It could also be good at specialized things like portable music/media playback, with a simplified interface: it could do SOME things well even if it's second-best when it comes to general computing.

I see more use for a very small tablet than for a laptop-sized one.

(Big ones do have their uses in certain markets/niches: they can be used while standing and walking around.)

doogle

Feb 25, 2006, 11:49 PM

image from a 3gp file posted on funformobile...

Mammalpants

Feb 26, 2006, 12:12 AM

This is more closely related to the Hi-Fi concept?? All of the patent sketches and mockups show the "tablet style" presentation, with the human hands in proportion to the screen (like a tablet), the patents for the keyboards/input device on-screens...so what if the hi-fi, which is supposed to be "DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT" from anything we have seen, IS this type of tablet-style media device? imagine hanging it on your wall, hooking it up to speakers, using the new remote that apple is putting everywhere to control media from anywhere in a room or walking up to it and selecting items directly on the screen, the front-row style menus...all of this would make sense....download videos and movies to watch on the device or connect to your ipod...
the tablet becomes the new hi-fi...the new boom box...unlike anything we have ever seen or really expected...and on top of it all, it has apple style.
all i know is i have heard many people say that they wish they could hang their imacs with remotes on their walls...

texasmafia

Feb 26, 2006, 12:39 AM

(L)

Feb 26, 2006, 01:55 AM

Is it just me or has the number of posts gone down? I swear I was #1111, #1114, and maybe later...

Chuck

Feb 26, 2006, 02:13 AM

Is it just me or has the number of posts gone down? I swear I was #1111, #1114, and maybe later...

Is this question the new replacement for "What's that Chinese writing say?"

Yep - lots of posts were removed because of a childish argument.

Moses:SonOfGod

Feb 26, 2006, 06:42 AM

motulist

Feb 26, 2006, 07:21 AM

If this turns out to be fake then the person who started this whole thing must be laughing his arse off.

bboyredcel

Feb 26, 2006, 08:38 AM

Apple's part numbers go in order... the M8***/A indicates that it is an older product, which is just not possible... MA***/A are the part numbers for the most current products and the fact that this part # starts out MB***/A indicates that it is BRAND NEW and that apple has run out of MA***/A part numbers... i believe this is a real photo because of that consistency...

if you know anything about apple's part numbering system you would know that that is not an 8 but is definitly a B because new items come out with sequential part numbers ie: all nano's have sequential part #'s because of this system...

once they run out of #'s they move on to the next letter:
ie: M9999LL/A (though apple never goes as high as 9999) would cue the next part # to be MA000LL/A and so forth... MA040LL/A is the G5 iMac it was one of the first products to have an MA part #... this iPod sporting an MB part # really gets me believing that it is infact the 6G iPod..

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 11:23 AM

bboyredcel-

This has been discussed at length already, and you are right in saying if it is a B then it might fit in with Apples current part code conventions. It might also be an old label peeled off an old product (If it is an 8, then I think it's the code for Mac OS X Panther Server) It's not really proof either way, the label could be faked.

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 11:26 AM

"What's that Chinese writing say?"

That's a good point right there, I wonder if someone could decode it and tell us what it means.

cwedl

Feb 26, 2006, 12:05 PM

http://u1.flurl.com/1140883624/2006/Feb/26/FLURL-dot-com-78799-ipodV7640x480.mov

its fake! as this video reveals

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 12:08 PM

http://u1.flurl.com/1140883624/2006/Feb/26/FLURL-dot-com-78799-ipodV7640x480.mov

its fake! as this video reveals

Link doesn't work

carve

Feb 26, 2006, 12:11 PM

YOU HAVE TO LOOK VERY CLOSELY TO SEE IT..THAT LOOK PRETTY REAL THOUGH, DID U SEE THAT ONE DUDE THAT WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT CREATIVE WAS GOING TO DO THIS... theyre to smaa of a compant to come out with a nice product like this photo...i'll be the first one in line to buy this if they come out with it.:)

cwedl

Feb 26, 2006, 12:14 PM

click here (http://web.mac.com/christianwedlock/iWeb/Christian/fake.mov)

this will work

its on .Mac servers so it will be very slow...:p

p.s. couldn't seem to get the link working from original website so I downloaded and am now hosting it for your viewing pleasure.

Aqua Structure

Feb 26, 2006, 12:21 PM

Wow.

Guess he had us all fooled then, eh?

cwedl

Feb 26, 2006, 12:29 PM

Yes, unless it is real and apple put together the video to keep us of the scent! (very much doubt it though!):p

iMeowbot

Feb 26, 2006, 12:30 PM

http://u1.flurl.com/1140883624/2006/Feb/26/FLURL-dot-com-78799-ipodV7640x480.mov

its fake! as this video reveals
Now this is getting obnoxious. The video shows how it could be faked, but it's a recreation :(

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4503/difflabel9ct.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=difflabel9ct.jpg)

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 12:32 PM

That's it then! Fake!

I was wrong. Fun video :)

cwedl

Feb 26, 2006, 12:34 PM

Now this is getting obnoxious. The video shows how it could be faked, but it's a recreation :(

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4503/difflabel9ct.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=difflabel9ct.jpg)

This video may show how this could have been faked. no description was given. Interesting :cool:

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 12:35 PM

Now this is getting obnoxious. The video shows how it could be faked, but it's a recreation :(

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4503/difflabel9ct.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=difflabel9ct.jpg)

I think he must have recreated some of the steps again, as he probably didn't film/photograph them in the first place. If you look at the final images in the video its identical.

Aqua Structure

Feb 26, 2006, 12:38 PM

I think he must have recreated some of the steps again, as he probably didn't film/photograph them in the first place. If you look at the final images in the video its identical.
Not quite, actually. The color bars are a little different.

But it's clearly the same original photograph, and it's clearly the same guy. Case closed.

Mammalpants

Feb 26, 2006, 12:40 PM

Wow.

Guess he had us all fooled then, eh?

No matter what, this video is great!!!

Aqua Structure

Feb 26, 2006, 12:52 PM

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 12:54 PM

I just noticed something bizarre. Go to Google Netherlands Image Search here (http://www.google.nl/imghp?hl=nl&tab=wi&q=), and do a search for lcd color test like in the movie. The picture of the dude with the television doesn't come up.

Google search results will change over time. I also believe he put together this video after all the attention of the image on the internet, and in doing so he recreated some of the steps (see above post about writing on tape not being identical) The string he entered in google images could have been different.

Aqua Structure

Feb 26, 2006, 01:04 PM

Google search results will change over time. I also believe he put together this video after all the attention of the image on the internet, and in doing so he recreated some of the steps (see above post about writing on tape not being identical) The string he entered in google images could have been different.
Aye. I'm not saying it substantiates anything, I'm just saying that I found that a little odd.

tonybeak

Feb 26, 2006, 01:10 PM

I'm disappointed, but impressed. This guy is brilliant, and he had us all fooled! :p

dicklacara

Feb 26, 2006, 01:23 PM

No matter what, this video is great!!!
mmmm....

compare the original with the last frame of the "movie".

they are different!

1) no international "7" on the barcode label

2) the part number in the original is a "B", in the movie it is an "8"

... good job, tho!

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 01:27 PM

What kind of processor would this iPod (if it's true) have to have? On the current 5G iPods there's a really noticeable lag for playing videos, using the calendar etc. I hope Apple use something with a bit more power this time.
Isn't the lag simply the hard disk spinning up? Only flash storage can avoid that--which means only small-capacity iPods.

Now this is getting obnoxious. The video shows how it could be faked, but it's a recreation :(

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4503/difflabel9ct.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=difflabel9ct.jpg)
Agreed--from your image (the video isn't loading for me) it does NOT seem to be showing the creation of the original image. You could take any real photo and make a video about faking a similar photo.

Is there something more conclusive to be found elsewhere in the video?

Mammalpants

Feb 26, 2006, 01:33 PM

MarcelV

Feb 26, 2006, 01:34 PM

The continental 7 is missing on the barcode, too

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 01:37 PM

There's a thread on the main MR page declaring this a fake now based on the video:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=182944

I find this video more dubious than the original photo--but I won't judge until I see it. It's finally start to load (slowly) for me and the musical montage at the beginning is cracking me up :)

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 01:50 PM

OK, it's definitely NOT showing the creation of the original image--although it could be the same guy "doing it over" because he didn't document the first time.

Fun with Fishiness:

* The hand-drawn parts (tape markings AND the foreground scribbling at the end) don't match: he draws one thing that doesn't match the original image, then cuts to a version that does match.

* He places a pure, solid, untextured EPS of the testbars... but never shows how the realistic LCD moire was introduced. What better way to do that than to take a picture of your Mac screen with the testbars displayed? And place THAT instead? I can't think how placing an EPS makes sense.

So this is a reconstruction--which doesn't mean the original is real, of course.

(Also--he has a Belkin-or-whatever cable, but seeing him take a picture of the barcode would have been more convincing. As would seeing more details, such as about the colors shining through the label, instead of just "filter filter filter.")

Fun no matter what :)

Phat_Pat

Feb 26, 2006, 01:57 PM

where'd the 7 go

Mammalpants

Feb 26, 2006, 01:57 PM

when i boosted the levels on the image, this appeared!!
WHAT DOES IT MEAN??
Guys, I'm really scared!

http://danielhamilton.com/feb28/im_coming.jpg

Joe2000

Feb 26, 2006, 02:33 PM

when i boosted the levels on the image, this appeared!!
WHAT DOES IT MEAN??
Guys, I'm really scared!

http://danielhamilton.com/feb28/im_coming.jpg

OMG!! :eek:

are you serious?

Mammalpants

Feb 26, 2006, 02:36 PM

Here's the scoop on the Hi-Fi. Apparently, you will be able to control all media devices in your entire home!! This would make sense, as Apple has recently filed patents for "spinning devices enabling home media retrieval and manipulation via telepathic input from carbon-based apparati" Strangely enough, this particular device features not one, but TWO giant click wheels, apparently controlled with the user's entire hand. Also, this device apparently takes advantage of the new Flash Memory Agreements that Apple has put into place with Toshiba and others. This particular device features the smallest flash memory chips yet, at only .5" square per 5GB, but will contain 200 of them! The device retails for only $49, but apparently, iTunes songs will now cost upwards of $200 each, per changes in the DRM agreements.

Hey, I just pass the news along as I get it from the source! Apparently, they are trying to make profit in the music, not in the hardware...much like Gillette did with their affordable Mach 12 shaver and expensive refill blades.

http://danielhamilton.com/feb28/hifi.jpg

InTheBand

Feb 26, 2006, 03:07 PM

Hi everyone!

I'm new here, and haven't had time to look around too much yet. I just wanted to know if anyone has been able to find out what that asian writing means?

Thanks! :)

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 03:10 PM

Hi everyone!

I'm new here, and haven't had time to look around too much yet. I just wanted to know if anyone has been able to find out what that asian writing means?

Thanks! :)

That's a very good point - What do the asian characters mean?

;)

Mammalpants

Feb 26, 2006, 03:12 PM

According to the video, it means "This Side Up"

InTheBand

Feb 26, 2006, 03:16 PM

That's a very good point - What do the asian characters mean?

;)

Huh? I don't get it. What do they mean? If you [or anyone] knows, please tell me.

I'm just know starting to read through the threads because I just signed up. If this has already been answered and I just haven't come across it yet, I apologize.

Thanks! :)

Peace

Feb 26, 2006, 03:18 PM

Huh? I don't get it. What do they mean? If you [or anyone] knows, please tell me.

I'm just know starting to read through the threads because I just signed up. If this has already been answered and I just haven't come across it yet, I apologize.

Thanks! :)

N/P welcome!!

What the script actually means is "This Is Fake"

InTheBand

Feb 26, 2006, 03:23 PM

According to the video, it means "This Side Up"

Oh, thanks! :)

I just saw that this question was answered way earlier in this thread. There's just so many pages... :(

I haven't seen the video yet. I'm going to right now.

Thanks again! :)

InTheBand

Feb 26, 2006, 03:28 PM

N/P welcome!!

What the script actually means is "This Is Fake"

Thanks for the welcome! :)

Really? It means "This Is Fake"?

That's much funnier than "This Side Up", but I would think that if someone was really trying to fool everyone, it would be something like "This Side Up". :confused:

I think "Peace" is just messing with me! ;) lol!!!

schenz

Feb 26, 2006, 03:35 PM

According to the video, it means "This Side Up"

Nah, the video doesn't mean anything - as has been mentioned way earlier, "it's an ancient Chinese proverb which translates roughly as 'Book of Power 5G, Tuesday next'".

:p

TMA

Feb 26, 2006, 03:57 PM

I think "Peace" is just messing with me! ;) lol!!!

Welcome to the madness :D

JoshPowell

Feb 26, 2006, 04:00 PM

:P

Just read the comments at engadget. A few people posted that it meant "this side"... supposedly meaning "this side up".

Josh

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 04:10 PM

Discussion seems to have moved to the new thread on the MR home page:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=182944
...where the video "discrediting" the Flickr photo has ITSELF been soundly discredited :D Fakes within fakes within fakes :) And we STILL don't know for sure :D

Food for thought: apparently Apple has recently been starting to use a widescreen format for some of their iTunes videos :)
http://looprumors.com/index.php?itunes-videos-changing-format
EDIT: This is in dispute--I choose NOT to believe anything has changed unless a concrete example turns up. SOME videos have always been widescreen. Maybe someone just now noticed that, and reported it to LoopRumors. False alarm?

Huh? I don't get it. What do they mean? If you [or anyone] knows, please tell me.

I'm just know starting to read through the threads because I just signed up. If this has already been answered and I just haven't come across it yet, I apologize.

Thanks! :)
I don't think this has been addressed yet. If anyone can read Chinese, please speak up! I'm starting to get curious about those symbols too.

the-fish

Feb 26, 2006, 04:38 PM

I'm disappointed, but impressed. This guy is brilliant, and he had us all fooled! :p
*cough* He didn't have me fooled!

alienex

Feb 26, 2006, 05:10 PM

do you guys realize the person who made this is posting among us. It could be me, it could be you. Kinda freaky.

The jobs picture by the way is HILARIOUS!

doogle

Feb 26, 2006, 06:01 PM

http://infotyte.adc.rmit.edu.au/ipodtype/images/touch.mov

tensionhead

Feb 26, 2006, 06:21 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/jackblackV2/6a258282.jpg

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 06:22 PM

http://infotyte.adc.rmit.edu.au/ipodtype/images/touch.mov
A mockup made from a 4G instead of a 5G :) I like it--but I expect Apple would keep the vertical orientation for normal music/menu browsing, and that they wouldn't let the list extend under the virtual scrollwheel. (I imagine it therefore working much like any other iPod except during fullscreen video operation.)

doogle

Feb 26, 2006, 06:42 PM

A mockup made from a 4G instead of a 5G :) I like it--but I expect Apple would keep the vertical orientation for normal music/menu browsing, and that they wouldn't let the list extend under the virtual scrollwheel. (I imagine it therefore working much like any other iPod except during fullscreen video operation.)

(Sadly) I only own a 4G and I shot the video pretty quickly and spent a lot of the weekend doing the mask for the hand (and it is pretty rough still) - thanks for the constructive crit.

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 06:59 PM

It's cool either way :) My vision isn't the only way to make an iPod :)

The scrollwheel appearing only when needed is a nice touch--I can see Apple using that method.

ingenious

Feb 26, 2006, 08:14 PM

Am I the only one that thinks this is kind of ugly? I don't know, I guess it's just because the interface isn't there, but besides having a bigger screen for videos, what is the purpose of a touch screen?

nagromme

Feb 26, 2006, 09:09 PM

If it's real, that's the only purpose I see. Having a touchscreen might not work as well as a tactile click wheel in some ways, but it would allow the whole device to BE screen.

Chuck

Feb 26, 2006, 09:21 PM

InTheBand

Feb 26, 2006, 09:54 PM

Plus if the screen fills the whole device, it really becomes more of a computer in a way - software updates will become more significant than hardware updates and there's much more ability for the same device to grow in it's usefullness over time.

Good point. Also, the elimination of moving parts is always better. Anyone remember the physically spinning scroll-wheel used in the 1G iPod? I still have mine, complete with wobbly scroll wheel that sticks because of a grain of sand that got stuck in it.

ezekielrage_99

Feb 26, 2006, 10:09 PM

Your comment is interesting, but I still have to dispute your conclusion. I can't imagine any reason why someone would build up that test pattern by cloning tiny areas from a photo. They'd simply take a photo of the whole thing and paste THAT on. Also, so much of the fake (if it's fake) is skillfully done (light behind the sticker) etc. that they'd never leave "cloning marks" that can be seen at 20 paces. Also, what I see is a similar pattern, not a truly repeating pattern as bad cloning would create.

The moire effect in this photo can be seen in other photos of LCDs if the scale is right and colors aren't so bright they wash out the fine lines. Such as:

http://gallery.ilounge.com/ipod/albums/ipod5G/ilounge_copyright_ipod5G42.JPG

http://gallery.ilounge.com/ipod/albums/ipod5G/ilounge_copyright_ipod5G904.jpg

http://gallery.ilounge.com/ipod/albums/ipod5G/ilounge_copyright_ipod5G918.jpg

I do agree with you pictures however the different with the LCD "Wave Pattern" is that they are very consistant with the pattern spacing (e.g. distance between bright and darker places) hence normal behaviour to photography on an LCD source.

The widescreen iPod doesn't show any of these characteristcs therefore my only real conclusion is to say that they have been cloned in Photoshop, GIMP, etc.

Tupring

Feb 27, 2006, 04:03 AM

Steve is an egoist. No way would an apple device not have the Apple logo in plain sight.Where on the front of an iPod is there an Apple logo in plain sight (other than when it is reset)?

Tupring

Feb 27, 2006, 04:07 AM

StealthRider, Image enhancement and cleanup???

Just hit the "zoom" button once, and you can plainly see it's a B.

You can see it in the regular photo just fine. But there are apparently many visually impaired individuals in this thread, so hitting the zoom button should solve that. If that doesn't work, just strap a couple ashtrays to your head, as it'll be cheaper than the glasses you'll have to buy.I still think it's an 8 too, but who really cares now anyway?

Tupring

Feb 27, 2006, 05:35 AM

This ad is probably old because it matches the form factor of the 4G iPods.It's not even a real ad, read the fine print at the bottom, it says: "1)Some website 2)Requires Bluetooth Software 3.1 and Airport Software 3.1 3) Joey is not actually a funny show. In fact, please watch something else so the person next to you doesn't vomit."

CoMpX

Feb 27, 2006, 05:40 AM

It's not even a real ad, read the fine print at the bottom, it says: "1)Some website 2)Requires Bluetooth Software 3.1 and Airport Software 3.1 3) Joey is not actually a funny show. In fact, please watch something else so the person next to you doesn't vomit."

I knew that it was just that a lot of people were bringing it up and I didn't understand the importance since it was obviously an old fake ad.

milo

Feb 27, 2006, 08:14 AM

That's hilarious. 45 pages of quibbling over B vs 8, and it turns out to be a fake anyway. I love that the scribbled out watermark turned out to be nothing.

The guy with the fakepod page was dead on, and nobody listened to him.

Bogus chinese? Check.

Bogus serial number (reused from old version of server)? Check

Suspicious color bars? Check.

Some of us pretty much figured out EXACTLY how this was faked, yet tons of people were in complete denial and refused to believe the evidence. Looks like some people on here really need to brush up on their photoshop skills after insisting that things in the picture (like the translucent label) were impossible.

Let this be a lesson for next time.

(L)

Feb 27, 2006, 08:55 AM

According to the video, it means "This Side Up"

The widget gets it wrong. The video, therefore, actually documents the error. Putting this side up in English gets the Chinese for "this side"/"here", not "this side up". This has been stated before.

(L)

Feb 27, 2006, 08:58 AM

:P

Just read the comments at engadget. A few people posted that it meant "this side"... supposedly meaning "this side up".

Josh

Supposedly what? Backwards, have it you. The hoaxer wanted to say "this side up" but the translation widget got it slightly off. Therefore, translating it back got "this side". No big deal, but we're STILL having problems with this?

Lillefix

Feb 27, 2006, 11:04 AM

Well, anyone seen this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78645769@N00/?saved=1

Could it be real?

nagromme

Feb 27, 2006, 11:08 AM

That's hilarious. 45 pages of quibbling over B vs 8, and it turns out to be a fake anyway. I love that the scribbled out watermark turned out to be nothing.
The device may be fake--there's little consensus on that point--but what there IS consensus on is that this VIDEO tells us NOTHING about the original image.

Read this thread--there is NO doubt that the video proves nothing:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=182944

Which doesn't make it real either, but don't be fooled by the video--that IS a hoax.

iMeowbot

Feb 27, 2006, 11:09 AM

Could it be real?
No.

nomad01

Feb 27, 2006, 11:30 AM

Well, anyone seen this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78645769@N00/?saved=1

Could it be real?

I'll eat my own testicles if it is.

mazola

Feb 27, 2006, 12:07 PM

The widget gets it wrong. The video, therefore, actually documents the error ... This has been stated before.

Correctly translated, the Chinese actually means "Serenity • Firefly"

jrv3034

Feb 27, 2006, 02:09 PM

I'll eat my own testicles if it is.
As long as you don't post a link to a video of this happening, do whatever you want... :eek:

nomad01

Feb 27, 2006, 02:55 PM

As long as you don't post a link to a video of this happening, do whatever you want... :eek:

Well I had planned something along those lines but it was going to be faked... using Photoshop... or was it? And just what did the Chinese writing mean on... :o

Okay, I'll shut up. ;)

TMA

Feb 27, 2006, 02:57 PM

And just what did the Chinese writing mean on... :o

Okay, I'll shut up. ;)

I guess we'll never know huh :confused:

;)

whee900

Feb 27, 2006, 04:20 PM

Well I had planned something along those lines but it was going to be faked... using Photoshop... or was it? And just what did the Chinese writing mean on... :o

Okay, I'll shut up. ;)

Well, I read Japanese, which shares some characters with chinese. I don't know the meaning either. Are there any Chinese people around who can answer our question?

The thing is, this thing might have tablet capabilities along with that of an iPod. Maybe this might be closer to a tablet PC than a music player..

kugino

Feb 27, 2006, 04:45 PM

Well, I read Japanese, which shares some characters with chinese. I don't know the meaning either. Are there any Chinese people around who can answer our question?

The thing is, this thing might have tablet capabilities along with that of an iPod. Maybe this might be closer to a tablet PC than a music player..
are you serious? have you read any of the earlier threads in this post? it has been translated dozens of times already.

oh, and it means, "this side" or something similar.

and there's already been a lot of debate as to what "this side" may mean...silly, IMO.

(edit: woo hoo! 500th post! avatar, baby)

cr2sh

Feb 27, 2006, 04:53 PM

You guys didn't look very closely

THAT IS A B... not an 8

looks real.

Just wanted to point out... if you watch the high quality video... there is absolutely no doubt that you were wrong.

Way to uh.. claim authority and turn out to be wrong though. Congrats.. you made it to my sig.

iluang

Feb 27, 2006, 09:42 PM

First post...
Those two characters actually means "Here" or "This place". But in that video we can see the photoshoper intended to express "This side up", which he typed in the translation widget. If you speak Chinese, I think you'll never say that to express "This side up". Beacuse nothing "up" is mentioned in those two characters. It simply means "Here". So when I saw this picture first time, I couldn't understand why there's a sticker on the connector/cable. So strange.

kntgsp

Feb 28, 2006, 04:23 AM

Dang this thing fooled alot of people, me included.

mazola

Feb 28, 2006, 05:18 PM

I think it's real.

nammychan

Mar 4, 2006, 05:33 AM

test

4np

Mar 27, 2006, 01:32 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/jackblackV2/6a258282.jpg

ROTFLMAO! Now that would be an interesting development ;) I sure hope they won't postpone the iPod Video as long as the next Duke Nukem :D

trogdor!

Mar 30, 2006, 03:51 PM

Im starting to get sick of all these really good fakes of upcoming apple products. People really put a lot of effort into making these as convincing as possible. Great concept ideas though.

OLIAX

Aug 28, 2006, 09:29 AM

http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/1.jpg
http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/2.jpg
http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/3.jpg

AvSRoCkCO1067

Aug 28, 2006, 09:33 AM

...

Um. Great?

<stupid thread resurrection :mad: >

cr2sh

Aug 28, 2006, 12:13 PM

My favorite part of this thread was when nobody posted anything for 5 months.. and then out of no where, this total n00b posted the images we've all seen like a billion times.

That was awesome.

(now where is that goddamn unsubscribe button?)

Chuck

Aug 28, 2006, 06:25 PM

Oh come on guys, lighten up for goodness sake.

Nice pics!

Chuck.

nitynate

Aug 28, 2006, 07:13 PM

:rolleyes:

This thread is so dumb.

Passante

Aug 29, 2006, 05:07 AM

I've been waiting soooo long.... Maybe next tuesday. :D

tobefirst

Aug 29, 2006, 11:28 AM

Dude needs to cut his fingernails next time. Or photoshop them out...should be easy, since he's in there already. (:

pink-pony115

Aug 30, 2006, 12:23 AM

This just popped into my head. What if Apple redesigned the iPod OS to be basically Front Row?! Wouldn't having a black screen use less power than a white screen? Plus, it would be just as usable with a touch-screen click-wheel as with an Apple Remote.

Sounds pretty cool! :D

motulist

Aug 30, 2006, 01:14 AM

Wouldn't having a black screen use less power than a white screen?

No, the iPod uses an LCD display (as do the vast majority of other handheld devices) and that's not the way LCD screens work. LCD's have a light behind them that is always on at the same brightness no matter what color is on the screen. A black pixel is generated by covering up the back light entirely at that spot. However, OLED and other display technologies generate individual points of light for each individual pixel rather than covering up shades of the backlight for each pixel as LCD does. So if the iPod were ever to switch to a new display technology, you would be correct, but for now the iPod uses the same amount of energy no matter what color it displays.

Jman888

Nov 22, 2006, 08:53 PM

http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/1.jpg
http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/2.jpg
http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/3.jpg

Those look pretty darn real.. It has a shadow and everything. Look under the dock it even reflects. Mayby its not fake...

Xander562

Nov 22, 2006, 09:57 PM

Those look pretty darn real.. It has a shadow and everything. Look under the dock it even reflects. Mayby its not fake...

These have already been proven to be fake.

You can tell just by looking at the time elapsed and time remaining on the one in the dock. (if it wasn't obvious already) You can see that the bar is farther to the right than it seems it should be for ~half-way through the song.

Let me see if I can find it....
Ah yes here. (http://fakepod.blogspot.com/) The March 5th entry.

mrkramer

Nov 22, 2006, 11:03 PM

Why did this thread get resurrected again?

Xavier

Nov 23, 2006, 12:38 AM

My friend told me a rumor that the new Video iPod is coming out next Tuesday!

Ya seriously, we won't know anything more about the new iPod until it is released.

iAlan

Nov 23, 2006, 03:48 AM

My friend told me a rumor that the new Video iPod is coming out next Tuesday!

Ya seriously, we won't know anything more about the new iPod until it is released.

I say announced on Thanksgiving, in stores Black Friday

Which is too bad 'caus I live in Japan :mad:

pdpfilms

Nov 24, 2006, 01:43 PM

Why did this thread get resurrected again?
And again?

Erasmus

Nov 26, 2006, 04:27 AM

Sorry, but I'm convinced.

My god, it's so sexy...
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Squonk

Dec 20, 2006, 01:03 PM

Wahoo!!! My first post in THIS thread.

I kinda like the picture on page 46 of the thread. I know they are probably fakes... :)

OdduWon

Jan 1, 2007, 03:23 AM

Looks cool, but how does one operate a touch screen with a plastic case over it :confused:

p8ntballguy

Jan 1, 2007, 04:10 AM

http://techmanifesto.com/images/ipodAV/3.jpg
i just noticed that though this fake was made in march, the buttons seem to have the same look as the new itunes 7, which was released in i believe september. Kinda strange that the person who made the fake knew or guessed exactly that the gloss would be gone.......

I dont have my macbook with me, and i dont feel like making my thinkpad do anything more strenous than just firefox, so i cant check itunes. Please correct me if im wrong.