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vniow
Jan 23, 2003, 04:30 PM
Found this on xlr8yourmac:

forty-two

What is forty-two?
forty-two is a system, comprised of the forty-two.app GUI, the dvdmp and dvdvx engines and certain *nix tools used for video compression and conversion. It is designed to be a simple, hassle-free tool for converting DVD's to other formats, such as DiVX, SVCD or VCD.

What makes forty-two different is that it is driven by logic; it determines proper encoding framerates, cropping etc and produces in-sync, set and forget results for all dvd types it supports. forty-two doesn't just pass switches to Open Source tools. It uses different methodologies from current make tools to insure that in sync conversions *can* be done, based on the content.
forty-two will convert DVDs with ac3 audio to VCD, SVCD, DVD or DiVX AVI, including user rates. If your DVD is PCM only or DTS only, you can only convert it to DiVX AVI with forty-two at this time.

Requirements

forty-two requires a Macintosh computer running MacOS X 10.2.3 or above. Your computer must be able to play DVDs.The BSD must be installed on your current system. (install via your OS X install disc)




You can get the app here (http://homepage.mac.com/kaicherry/index2.html) and it would also be worthwile to check out this (http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134251) thread.

edesignuk
Jan 23, 2003, 05:15 PM
Sounds cool, I'll defiantly give it a go. Thanks :)

alset
Jan 23, 2003, 05:17 PM
This is also on the page.


osXboxISO

What is osXboxISO?
osXboxISO allows Mac Users to create UDF iso9660 dvd disk images that are compatable with the MicroSoft Xbox by simply dropping a folder of files on the applicaticon.

Additionally, these disks are known to work on DVD players that can read files from iso file systems for mpeg or audio playback


This will also be nice, if it works. Does anyone know if this might work without a MOD chip?

I downloaded both - I will report back as soon as I have results.

Thanks for the great link!

Dan

rainman::|:|
Jan 23, 2003, 05:26 PM
Okay, can i install BSD without causing problems with the rest of my system? i don't have to reformat, or anything, right? also, will it make things different in the future, or can i just ignore it when not using it? i don't have a clue about the whole thing... but i definitely want to try this...

:)
pnw

arn
Jan 23, 2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
Okay, can i install BSD without causing problems with the rest of my system? i don't have to reformat, or anything, right? also, will it make things different in the future, or can i just ignore it when not using it? i don't have a clue about the whole thing... but i definitely want to try this...

:)
pnw

should be transparent when installed... there is no reason not to install it always in the future...

don't know about installing it after the fact.

arn

alset
Jan 23, 2003, 06:06 PM
When I run forty-two it starts fine. When it goes to show the preview movie before continuing I run into trouble. The movie file meant for preview cannot be found. Sherlock doesn't find it, even when searching invisible items.

Has anyone else tried this out? Any reports on setup?

Dan

GeeYouEye
Jan 23, 2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by arn


should be transparent when installed... there is no reason not to install it always in the future...

don't know about installing it after the fact.

arn

I thought the default Jaguar installation installs it automatically. :confused:

ecino1
Jan 23, 2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by GeeYouEye


I thought the default Jaguar installation installs it automatically. :confused:

Yes, the default 'standard' install does put BSD on you're machine, but you can do a custom install and set it no not install it.

beez7777
Jan 23, 2003, 07:28 PM
seems like a cool program, but when i try to rip a dvd, it says "mpeg2enc is missing" so it asks me if i wanna dload it, so i click ok, and it says "curl: (23) Failed writing body (23)" what's goin on???

edesignuk
Jan 23, 2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by beez7777
seems like a cool program, but when i try to rip a dvd, it says "mpeg2enc is missing" so it asks me if i wanna dload it, so i click ok, and it says "curl: (23) Failed writing body (23)" what's goin on???
Did u read the readme file? In there it tells you that you need to download some stuff and put it into the Library. Check the readme for full information.

iGod
Jan 23, 2003, 10:02 PM
I can't seem to download mpeg2enc (I just get some alien computer language) and my computer doesn't seem to recognize the file format of mplayer...:(
Help!

Kid Red
Jan 23, 2003, 10:13 PM
iGod, right click 'save link to disk' and make sure the .txt extension is taken off.

Everything works until terminal launches, then i get this-

[mine-Computer:~] mine% /tmp/.wd
--: /Net: No such file or directory
--: exec: /Net: cannot execute: No such file or directory
[mine-Computer:~] mine%

Any ideas what this means? I'm saving to a 2nd HD, could that be the issue?

Beej
Jan 24, 2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by alset
When I run forty-two it starts fine. When it goes to show the preview movie before continuing I run into trouble. The movie file meant for preview cannot be found. Sherlock doesn't find it, even when searching invisible items.

Has anyone else tried this out? Any reports on setup?

Dan I had the same problem. When i command-f'ed files modified today, the Finder would quit every time. I read all the documentation I could find, and I finally gave up and told it to exit gracefully.

Then when I started to try again, the test appeared on my desktop, right where I told it to save. Woo hoo!

I opened it in vlc. Sound but no image. I opened it in QT. Error. Damn.

I'm trying again with different settings now (I was trying divx 1 CD). Let's see how I go this time...


Looks like a really sweet tool though, if I can get it to work!

Kid Red
Jan 24, 2003, 01:01 AM
All you file not found guys, here's the thing. I spoke to the author and it seems that both folders (file and temp) can not have spaces in them. So for this release what ever path you are saving to make sure there are no spaces. He said it would be fixed soon. Also "your *boot* drive can have spaces in the name..this is cool. But any mounted extra drives cannot"

I just found this out, so I'm gonna try it again.

Beej
Jan 24, 2003, 02:58 AM
Hmm, well I read that too, but no path relating to anything to do with 44 had a space in it.

I fiddled a bit, and ripping to high quality divx works for me as advertised. A full Buffy episode (44 mins) in 380 MB. Tasty. But I already own the DVD... so a smaller and lower quality version is really rather useless to me :)

Sensational product though, when it works. Very impressive, and very simple. I remember back in my day when DVD ripping was an amazingly borng and difficult thing to do. Now this comes along and all my old skills are nearly useless! Damn ease of use, damn it!

superkatalog
Jan 24, 2003, 06:44 AM
how long does a conversion (90min movie) to divx take on a average g4?

irmongoose
Jan 24, 2003, 06:49 AM
Just use Mencoder (http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=17612&db=mac)... it says you have to use the Terminal but you don't have to type in anything... it's all automated... and it doesn't require the mpg2enc (which I tried to make work but didn't)...





irmongoose

iGod
Jan 24, 2003, 08:34 AM
I haven't been able to get mine to work yet, but I was wondering, is it possible to only convert sections of a movie - for example, could I make a CD of specific movie clips? Or does it have to be the entire film?

iGod
Jan 24, 2003, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Kid Red
iGod, right click 'save link to disk' and make sure the .txt extension is taken off.


Argh! Still doesn't work. Any other way of getting mpeg2enc?
ALSO I still can't get mplayer to open - it is not a recognizable file format and asks me which application I'd like to open it in...:( :confused:

Kid Red
Jan 24, 2003, 09:29 AM
God, make sure you download it in IE or Navigator, Safari adds the extension to it. I got everything to work, but once it's ready to actaully rip, it can't find it's preview file to continue with. I don't think you can open mplayer, the apps will open automatically when it's ready.

kiwi
Jan 24, 2003, 01:24 PM
Ah, finally, I have been waiting for them to release this for a few weeks!

boobers
Jan 24, 2003, 07:10 PM
to install mpeg2enc requires some terminal commands but using ffmpegX it installs it for you. FfmpegX is a really complete app for ripping as well.
get ffmpegX here
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=15473&db=mac

cheers

Greg
Jan 24, 2003, 07:27 PM
I set up everything as indicated but I get the message "mencoder missing", but it is where it should be. Also, mpeg2enc looks like a text file even though I dl in IE and has no .txt . Please help! I use a PBG4 1G. :confused:

Sol
Jan 24, 2003, 09:10 PM
While many of these applications can work, they are all hampered by the long and complicated process involved in doing a simple rip. With audio CDs the process could not be simpler: insert the CD, launch iTunes and press the 'Import' button. When DVD ripping software has reached this stage of simplicity, then they would be worth my time.

rainman::|:|
Jan 25, 2003, 03:23 PM
mencoder comes in it's own folder, it can NOT be in that folder in the application support folder. you must copy the folder's contents to the forty-two folder in app support.

here's my problem when i try and run 42:

Volume /Volumes/QUEEN_OF_THE_DAMNED unmounted
STATUS: Phase 1 Analysis
STATUS: This content is safe to encode at NTSC Film Rate
STATUS: Phase 2 Analysis
STATUS: Checking Audio Format...
STATUS: Using MP3 VBR...
STATUS: Encoding 1-Pass Test Clip at your Requested Quality
STATUS: Copying test clip to /Users/myname/testmovie.avi
cp: movie.avi: No such file or directory
STATUS: Playing test clip...See README


MPlayer CVS-030122-17:15-3.1 (C) 2000-2003 Arpad Gereoffy (see DOCS)

AltiVec not found
Reading config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf: No such file or directory
Reading config file /Users/myname/.mplayer/config
Reading /Users/myname/.mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open '/Users/myname/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /usr/local/etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open '/usr/local/etc/mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Using built-in default codecs.conf
font: can't open file: /Users/myname/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /Users/myname/.mplayer/input.conf : No such file or directory
Can't open input config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/input.conf : No such file or directory
Falling back on default (hardcoded) input config

Playing movie.avi
File not found: 'movie.avi'


Exiting... (End of file)
793
STATUS: Ok...Encoding DVD to DivX...ZZZZzz
syntax error: Expected end of line, etc. but found ?end tell?. (-2741)
Disk /dev/disk2 ejected

theranch
Jan 25, 2003, 03:43 PM
If you guys that are having problems with the extra apps would read the "read me" file first it tells you exactly where to download the other apps and where to put them.
My problem with Fourty Two is that is produced two mpgs that work great in Quicktime but I can't burn them as a VCD. Toast won't let me use the mpgs to burn a VCD.
In an updated version I'd like to see some sort of progress bar to see how much longer that I have to wait for Fourty Two to complete the task.

rainman::|:|
Jan 25, 2003, 04:46 PM
i followed the readme exactly (even correcting for one vagueness that caused the *mplayer could not be found* error) and have also made sure there's no spaces in pathnames (except Application Support, but i dont dare change that)...

pnw

matznentosh
Jan 25, 2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Greg
I set up everything as indicated but I get the message "mencoder missing", but it is where it should be. Also, mpeg2enc looks like a text file even though I dl in IE and has no .txt . Please help! I use a PBG4 1G. :confused:

Listen, I've read the read me file. I downloaded mpeg2enc. It looks like a text file to me too. Tried to run it thru Stuffit Expander, no difference. I got the same error message.

Frankly, it doesn't matter how good it works, if it is so complicated to set up.

theranch
Jan 25, 2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by matznentosh


Listen, I've read the read me file. I downloaded mpeg2enc. It looks like a text file to me too. Tried to run it thru Stuffit Expander, no difference. I got the same error message.

Frankly, it doesn't matter how good it works, if it is so complicated to set up.
Worked fine for me....if you follow the instructions, download the files that they tell you to and put them in the folder that they tell you to then it will work. The mpeg2enc file will look like a text doc...just put it where they tell you to. This app couldn't be any easier to use...if you read.

rainman::|:|
Jan 25, 2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by theranch

Worked fine for me....if you follow the instructions, download the files that they tell you to and put them in the folder that they tell you to then it will work. The mpeg2enc file will look like a text doc...just put it where they tell you to. This app couldn't be any easier to use...if you read.

Are you rude, or just illiterate. Obviously there's some problem here that is not handled by the Readme, several of us report having followed it's instructions EXACTLY (myself included) and still having these problems. So no, reading isn't helping here. Glad it's working fine for you, but it isn't for everyone-- there's some problem that's different on different machines.

pnw

theranch
Jan 25, 2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel


Are you rude, or just illiterate. Obviously there's some problem here that is not handled by the Readme, several of us report having followed it's instructions EXACTLY (myself included) and still having these problems. So no, reading isn't helping here. Glad it's working fine for you, but it isn't for everyone-- there's some problem that's different on different machines.

pnw
Rude? No... I deal with people all day long that have problems with software that is giving them "problems" or "doesn't work". Sometimes people fail to read the instructions properly that's all. I'm just making sure that you understand that the file that "looks like a text file" isn't just a text file. Maybe you are putting the files in the wrong Library...?

rainman::|:|
Jan 25, 2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by theranch

Rude? No... I deal with people all day long that have problems with software that is giving them "problems" or "doesn't work". Sometimes people fail to read the instructions properly that's all. I'm just making sure that you understand that the file that "looks like a text file" isn't just a text file. Maybe you are putting the files in the wrong Library...?

Nope. The problem I keep running into, even when i set up mplayer to do static compiling, there are no config files, so the program falls back on hardcoded config, which produces bad results.

Reading config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf: No such file or directory
Reading config file /Users/myname/.mplayer/config
Reading /Users/myname/.mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open '/Users/myname/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /usr/local/etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open '/usr/local/etc/mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Using built-in default codecs.conf
font: can't open file: /Users/myname/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /Users/myname/.mplayer/input.conf : No such file or directory
Can't open input config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/input.conf : No such file or directory
Falling back on default (hardcoded) input config

I'd love to know where those config files are. I can do a quick cp to put the font.desc file where it wants it, but the config files do not exist in any location i've managed to track down--

if i can find them, i'll post a fix-- meanwhile can someone be contacting the developer about this?

pnw

mattsntx
Jan 25, 2003, 06:34 PM
I have been using 42 for a couple of days. Works great for me. I have read a lot about it from the author on other forums. The error messages about not finding the config files are normal and is a glitch in the software. It works fine even with that error message. I understand this is being addressed in future releases. A lot more info including alternative methods of installing the components using the terminal can be found on the VCDhelp forum.

taeclee99
Jan 25, 2003, 11:11 PM
I just started to convert "the bourne identity" into divx using this prog. Does anyone know how long the conversion process takes? How will I know when it is done?

Thanks

rainman::|:|
Jan 25, 2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by mattsntx
I have been using 42 for a couple of days. Works great for me. I have read a lot about it from the author on other forums. The error messages about not finding the config files are normal and is a glitch in the software. It works fine even with that error message. I understand this is being addressed in future releases. A lot more info including alternative methods of installing the components using the terminal can be found on the VCDhelp forum.

Ah, very good then-- i was wondering if the hard-coded config was OK. What if i can't get a sample movie tho? i'm hesitant to spend the time ripping it, tho it might just work after all :)

thx again--

pnw

JonD
Jan 27, 2003, 01:00 PM
WooHoo! This thing is awesome!

The 1 minute test clip was perfect, and right now it's encoding my Boondock Saints DVD to SVCD. All is well... encoding continues...

merman637
Jan 27, 2003, 01:51 PM
I'm trying to build an awesome demo composed of several (about 1 1/2 hours worth) video clips with quality dolby 5.1....matrix....apollo 13 etc...my question is.....How do I take these clips from DVD to the computer , ...edit them into scenes....and then create my own DVD...still keeping video quality and 5.1 sound? Is this possible? I'm trying to come up with a great Surround Sound Demo Disc and have figured out this much....


1.) I can rip DVD SOUND AND VIDEO to disc using DVDExtractor....(very simple by the way...
2.) Then use DVD Studio Pro to create the DVD File....

Problem so far...Most DVD's Keep Movie as one track so Im stuck with the full movie...ie (THX logo with sound could (hypothetically) be ripped and then put into DVD studio pro) but I only need short scenes from the movie not the full track...

From there, how do I actually create the DVD? is there an option in dvd studio pro? or do I need to take it to toast?

And what is the answer to editing while keeping the quality?

please help...anyone?

Kid Red
Jan 27, 2003, 11:54 PM
From DVD SP, you build the movie and then take that into toast as a DVD and burn IIRC.

mattsntx
Jan 28, 2003, 02:59 AM
I am a fairly new at creating DVD's, but I thought there was an issue wtih Dolby 5.1 on the Mac? Is 5.1 preserved in DVD SP even thought Macs can't play 5.1?

rmac
Jan 29, 2003, 04:03 PM
Is there a way to take a music DVD (live concert) and transfer the songs into mp3s? Sounds like this program puts sound into mp3, but I'd need to strip out the video and make each song separate (possibly not that hard since each song corresponds to a chapter on the DVD).

walliver
Jan 29, 2003, 09:44 PM
To all people who have had trouble with mpeg2enc not being recognised, I had the same problem, and have found a solution.

When you download the file (I used Safari) it is saved as mpeg2enc.txt. If you use the finder to delete the ".txt", the Finder doesn't actually delete the suffix, it hides it. The real filename is still mpeg2enc.txt.

To successfully rename the file, you need to select the file and choose "Get Info". From the Get Info dialog, you need to rename the file and make sure that the "hide extension" check box is not selected.

After you have done this, you should have a file name mpeg2enc with a generic icon

rainman::|:|
Jan 30, 2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by walliver
To all people who have had trouble with mpeg2enc not being recognised, I had the same problem, and have found a solution.

When you download the file (I used Safari) it is saved as mpeg2enc.txt. If you use the finder to delete the ".txt", the Finder doesn't actually delete the suffix, it hides it. The real filename is still mpeg2enc.txt.

To successfully rename the file, you need to select the file and choose "Get Info". From the Get Info dialog, you need to rename the file and make sure that the "hide extension" check box is not selected.

After you have done this, you should have a file name mpeg2enc with a generic icon

This is true; OS X tries to protect you from yourself, since it relies on those extensions... but it can be annoying.

pnw

swahilibill
Jan 30, 2003, 09:21 PM
I am gonna go out of my ****ing mind!!!

Here is a screenshot of my problem, what the hell do i do to get this damn thing to work!!!

joelc73
Feb 1, 2003, 04:39 PM
Can anyone tell me how to delete a file called "stream.yuv" that 42 left on my desk top? Anytime I click on it to use "get info" or to drag it to the trash, my Mac freezes instantly.

The file was produced as a result of trying to use 42 (which, incidently, didn't work).

Thanks

King Cobra
Feb 1, 2003, 08:29 PM
updated to version 1.0 (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18193)

edesignuk
Feb 1, 2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
updated to version 1.0 (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18193)
Do'h! You beat me :) Just trying it now ripping "The Office" (BBC Comedy, anyone not from the UK will probably never have heard of it).

edesignuk
Feb 1, 2003, 08:50 PM
So far it's working perfectly for me. I selected a near DVD DivX, after a couple of mins it automatically launched the test clip which looked and sounded fantastic, now it's just carring on with the rest of it. Very nice, very simple, very Mac ;)

King Cobra
Feb 2, 2003, 09:37 AM
Now my turn. I tried selecting two different DVDs, but the white space (where there is a message displaying the DVD being unmounted etc.) under the More option is always blank. When I click on Start the processes finishes a minute later, with no test clip or anything. All that is left is a message displaying "choose Quit from the forty-two menu" or something similar.

How do I get the different audio and video files in that white area? I've tried different DivX files and VCD with the newest version of forty-two on my Cube 500 (DVD model) with mplayer and Mencoder in the Application support, as well as the mpeg2enc file (still opens in Textedit by default and has text lines displayed for the icon).

MacVault
Mar 27, 2003, 12:57 AM
Does anyone know how to get forty-two to process directly from VOB files or a VIDEO_TS folder on a hard drive, rather than from the DVD drive?

King Cobra
Mar 27, 2003, 05:04 PM
You mean a direct transfer of files from the DVD to your Hard Drive?

Download DVDBackup (http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/DVDbackup.html#download) and follow its directions.

MacVault
Mar 27, 2003, 09:31 PM
NO. I have already got the VOB files on my drive, and yes I used DVD Backup to copy them, but now I want to compress the movies from the VOB files which are on my drive, rather than compressing from the DVD itself - because I have heard that compressing from the DVD can damage the DVD drive because of the fact that the laser has to be on for so long, or something to that effect. The forty-two developer said that forty-two will read from a disk image, but I haven't figured out how, or what type of image to make. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I know there are other apps out there that will process the VOB files, but I thought forty-two would be nice to use since it does the video and sound all at once with perfect sync! Any help would be great. Thanks!

irmongoose
Mar 28, 2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by MacVault
NO. I have already got the VOB files on my drive, and yes I used DVD Backup to copy them, but now I want to compress the movies from the VOB files which are on my drive, rather than compressing from the DVD itself - because I have heard that compressing from the DVD can damage the DVD drive because of the fact that the laser has to be on for so long, or something to that effect. The forty-two developer said that forty-two will read from a disk image, but I haven't figured out how, or what type of image to make. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I know there are other apps out there that will process the VOB files, but I thought forty-two would be nice to use since it does the video and sound all at once with perfect sync! Any help would be great. Thanks!

Wow, I have the exact same problem... and I was thinking about asking the developer if he could update it so it allows us to do that... well, anyone? If not, I'll go right ahead and email the developer...

EDIT: It seems the answer is NO.
Already Requested and Considered ideas:

VOB support- We have no plans to support VOB files.

:(



irmongoose

MacVault
Mar 28, 2003, 08:25 AM
I did email the developer and they said forty-two will read a disk-image from the drive, but I don't know what kind of image to make. I tried making one with Disk Copy and it did drag into the "well" in forty-two and seemed like it was working until about five seconds later when forty-two said the process was complete, and we all know that processing several gigabytes does not finish in five seconds, so I'm figuring I didn't make the right kind of image or I didn't use the right program to make it or something. I figure surely someone else on these forums would have experience in this.?.? Anyone have any suggestions? It would be sweet if there was some hack to get forty-two to process the VOB files without turning them into a disk image. I wonder why the developer sounds so against adding support for this. I would probably pay the money for forty-two if it would support this.

irmongoose - if you find anything more out please let me know!

Thanks, -Z