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krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 04:33 PM
like it OR dont like it?
im down with it.
some people say its a chick drink. i dont care.
if you dont want a beer or some wine or the regular girlie girl drink... have some hard cider.
im in love with amber! hornsbys hard amber cider that is.
dig it.
(well chalk one up for another blah thread on macrumors)
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 04:55 PM
*sigh*
i knew i should have started another political thread... those seem to get more responses then any other thread on macrumors.
well next time.
strider42
Jan 24, 2003, 04:55 PM
hard cider is not a chick drink. At least not when its a good dry cider like strong bow or blackthorn (british brands). Local cider brews in England can be nearly as strong as wine, but drunk like beer. It WILL knock you on your ass. Even mass produced brews are stronger than the vast majority of beer. Cider is a great alternative to beer, but not all the time since its significantly sweeter. If you haven't had strong bow on tap, you're missing out.
Now, pear cider and things like that are terrible drinks, and are totally chick drinks.
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by strider42
hard cider is not a chick drink. At least not when its a good dry cider like strong bow or blackthorn (british brands). Local cider brews in England can be nearly as strong as wine, but drunk like beer. It WILL knock you on your ass. Even mass produced brews are stronger than the vast majority of beer. Cider is a great alternative to beer, but not all the time since its significantly sweeter. If you haven't had strong bow on tap, you're missing out.
Now, pear cider and things like that are terrible drinks, and are totally chick drinks.
oh really. i guess people who mainly drink beer and are ignorant on cider call cider a chick drink. so you from birtian? most britian bands dig on hard cider? what groups would you associate hard cider with?
i hate pear cider.
so you got a link to the best hard cider in the world?
000111one111000
Jan 24, 2003, 05:00 PM
I don't like the amber kind, but the regular Hornsby's is my fav.
Woodchuck isn't too bad either. But that kind with the big K on the bottle is just nasty, as far as I'm concerned.
I think Hornsby's makes a green apple hard cider now too, I'll have to try that sometime.
enoch
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by 000111one111000
I don't like the amber kind, but the regular Hornsby's is my fav.
Woodchuck isn't too bad either. But that kind with the big K on the bottle is just nasty, as far as I'm concerned.
I think Hornsby's makes a green apple hard cider now too, I'll have to try that sometime.
enoch
yeah ive got the regular draft cider.... im down with it.
woodchuck is cool to. thats the first time ive ever tasted hard cider was when i tasted woodchuck. i was like WOW (http://www.y2khai.com/khai06.html)
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 05:06 PM
the funny thing is that i hate beer... i hate the taste of it. it created within me gag effect.
but hard cider... i can dig.
Roger1
Jan 24, 2003, 05:07 PM
I've never had hard cider. I guess I should try some. BTW, if you want to start a political thread, how about "What I would do if I were President"? :D
dabirdwell
Jan 24, 2003, 05:09 PM
...in any way.
It is not made from Apples, it is basically a wine cooler with some apple flavoring.
Woodchuck and some other brands are actually made from pressed apples or other fruit and have great fruit character. When the US was young, cider was by far the drink of choice for the colonies, surpassing ale many times over in consumption, it was only later, especially after German immigrants brought lagering techniques, that beer became so popular here.
And incidentally, pear cider like Ace that is actually made from fruit tastes unbelievable. A half-and-half of pear cider and draught stout is called a "snakebite" and is awesome!
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by dabirdwell
...in any way.
It is not made from Apples, it is basically a wine cooler with some apple flavoring.
Woodchuck and some other brands are actually made from pressed apples or other fruit and have great fruit character. When the US was young, cider was by far the drink of choice for the colonies, surpassing ale many times over in consumption, it was only later, especially after German immigrants brought lagered beer, that beer became so popular here.
And incidentally, pear cider like Ace that is actually made from fruit tastes unbelievable. A half-and-half of pear cider and draught stout is called a "snakebite" and is awesome!
reallY! hmm.
so beer is in essence an import thing and hard cider is pure american?! wow.
so are you sure about the horsnbys deal? i dont want to go around spreading lies. give me a link yo.. if you can.
interesting.
strider42
Jan 24, 2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by krossfyter
oh really. i guess people who mainly drink beer and are ignorant on cider call cider a chick drink. so you from birtian? most britian bands dig on hard cider? what groups would you associate hard cider with?
i hate pear cider.
so you got a link to the best hard cider in the world?
I've got british citizenship (dual citizenship actually), but I've lived my entire live in America. But when I've gone over their to visit, cider is one fo my favorites cause its on tap everywhere. Strongbow, blackthorn and woodpecker are all good, dry ciders. When they are really dry its a lot better I think. Hornsby is pretty good, Bulmers (another british brand) is good too. My cousins have told me that everyone there has a good story abuot the first time they got drunk on cider because the didn't relaly realize how strong it was.
And yes, anyone who knocks sider for being a chick drink is ognorant of what it relaly is. Its OK if you don't like it, but when I think chick drink, I think of fruity cocktails or weak wine coolers. Cider is strong, very strong. I'd put a cider thats more than 6% alcohol against a 3% lager anytime. How about ciders that are up around 10-12%. They exist (I have no idea where you'd find them though)
beer is good of course to. I consider them very different drinks and drink them according to what I feel like having. Sometimse a cider is really good and refreshing, but sometimes you want a good ole black and tan.
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Roger1
I've never had hard cider. I guess I should try some. BTW, if you want to start a political thread, how about "What I would do if I were President"? :D
thats a good one.
light it ^UP home spank!
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by strider42
I've got british citizenship (dual citizenship actually), but I've lived my entire live in America. But when I've gone over their to visit, cider is one fo my favorites cause its on tap everywhere. Strongbow, blackthorn and woodpecker are all good, dry ciders. When they are really dry its a lot better I think. Hornsby is pretty good, Bulmers (another british brand) is good too. My cousins have told me that everyone there has a good story abuot the first time they got drunk on cider because the didn't relaly realize how strong it was.
And yes, anyone who knocks sider for being a chick drink is ognorant of what it relaly is. Its OK if you don't like it, but when I think chick drink, I think of fruity cocktails or weak wine coolers. Cider is strong, very strong. I'd put a cider thats more than 6% alcohol against a 3% lager anytime. How about ciders that are up around 10-12%. They exist (I have no idea where you'd find them though)
beer is good of course to. I consider them very different drinks and drink them according to what I feel like having. Sometimse a cider is really good and refreshing, but sometimes you want a good ole black and tan.
dammmmm*t good point.
next time someone calls cider a chick drink ill call them out by using this line....
"ill put my 6% suppose chick drink cider against your 3% lager buddy! "
you know bust thier thought chops!!!
lol
so man... someone find me a link to that 12 or 13% cider.... wow!
dabirdwell
Jan 24, 2003, 05:22 PM
Actually, we brought cidermaking and ale brewing with us from England, so neither is "American" per say, but then neither are we, "really". (actually, among beer styles, only "steam beer" that uses lager yeast at ale temperatures was developed in America.)
Very little of brewing is new except refridgeration. Egyptians were making primitive beer 4500 years ago, and some cultures may have been making mead much longer than that, and techniques are almost identical to modern methods. We borrow our knowledge of brewing just like we do of everything else.
Yes, I am sure about Hornsby's, wine cooler.
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by dabirdwell
Actually, we brought cidermaking and ale brewing with us from England, so neither is "American" per say, but then neither are we, "really". (actually, among beer styles, only "steam beer" that uses lager yeast at ale temperatures was developed in America.)
Very little of brewing is new except refridgeration. Egyptians were making primitive beer 4500 years ago, and some cultures may have been making mead much longer than that, and techniques are almost identical to modern methods. We borrow our knowledge of brewing just like we do of everything else.
Yes, I am sure about Hornsby's, wine cooler.
okay man... thanks for that. im soaking this crap up now.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid46/pb18097897509500a935ab105065f8c35/fcd1b001.jpg
strider42
Jan 24, 2003, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by dabirdwell
Actually, we brought cidermaking and ale brewing with us from England, so neither is "American" per say, but then neither are we, "really". (actually, among beer styles, only "steam beer" that uses lager yeast at ale temperatures was developed in America.)
Very little of brewing is new except refridgeration. Egyptians were making primitive beer 4500 years ago, and some cultures may have been making mead much longer than that, and techniques are almost identical to modern methods. We borrow our knowledge of brewing just like we do of everything else.
Yes, I am sure about Hornsby's, wine cooler.
That interesting about hornsby, I never relaly looked at it that close. it taste pretty decent though, if a bit sweet for my taste.
Speaking of steam brews, does anywhere else in the US get Anchor Steam. its a local San Francisco brew and has quickly become my absolute favorite beer. Crisp, not too heavy, just plain old tastes good. A little hard to find sometimes, even here in the bay area, but totally worthwhile.
strider42
Jan 24, 2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by krossfyter
so man... someone find me a link to that 12 or 13% cider.... wow!
Sorry, i don't actually know of any brands that high. I did a quick search on google and turned up a few hits, one as high as 18%, though it seemed to be more like a wine than a cider. I didn't look to closely though.
You can always make your own. My mom made hard cider in a big bucket a fwe times. Actually, now that I think abuot it, I may look into trying that myself. Maybe find a way to incorporate a little bit of cider into a home brew beer or something. Could be fun to experiment with.
medea
Jan 24, 2003, 06:25 PM
definitely not a chick drink....I prefer woodpecker over hornsby or woodchuck but they are both good. I'd like to point out that I really dislike the taste of most beers.
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by medea
definitely not a chick drink....I prefer woodpecker over hornsby or woodchuck but they are both good. I'd like to point out that I really dislike the taste of most beers.
we are on the same page as far as this crap gooes.
krossfyter
Jan 24, 2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by strider42
Sorry, i don't actually know of any brands that high. I did a quick search on google and turned up a few hits, one as high as 18%, though it seemed to be more like a wine than a cider. I didn't look to closely though.
You can always make your own. My mom made hard cider in a big bucket a fwe times. Actually, now that I think abuot it, I may look into trying that myself. Maybe find a way to incorporate a little bit of cider into a home brew beer or something. Could be fun to experiment with.
cool... well thanks for looking. if you ever make some of your own... give me some instructions... id like to try it.
rock
wdlove
Jan 24, 2003, 08:55 PM
I love sparkling apple cider, my wife bought me some to have at New Years. That way I had something special to drink, since she likes wine! :)
KVH
Jan 24, 2003, 09:17 PM
Woodchuck Amber is my fav, but if you are not used to it, you will get "gut rot". As per a few of my friends.
Granny Smith and Dark is also good.
iGav
Jan 26, 2003, 06:41 AM
Strongbow is my fav.... strong and dry.... and I'll also take Scrumpy Jack if the Strongbow isn't on sale, can't do sweet ciders like Woodpecker.... and Dry Blackthorn makes my throat swell really badly....
But if you want real cider, go to the West Country of England and buy yourself some Scrumpy from small cider farms..... ;)
krossfyter
Jan 27, 2003, 04:09 AM
what the hell does "gut rot" feel like?
i got something in the morning that didnt feel too good.... after downing 6 hard ciders the other night.
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