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DAIDAI
Mar 1, 2006, 02:52 PM
i'm completely new to the mac forums and wanted to get a general opinion on what application do mac users use? dreamweaver or web objects? i hear dreamweaver is a better application and easy to use... is this true?

also...for creating websites, what domain register and hosting company do most mac users prefer? in the past i've used godaddy and 1&1.

opinions welcome...

signed,

new macuser.



kgarner
Mar 1, 2006, 02:56 PM
The two are really the same thing at all. Dreamweaver is WYSIWYG webpage creator, and Web Objects is a framework for developing websites (think backend). You could build your website with Web Objects and design and build the actual pages with Dreamweaver.

Damien
Mar 1, 2006, 05:24 PM
1&1 are expensive. Web hosting seems to be a thing of choice. Where do you want servers to be. Price vs Space and so on.


Domain name regisration is cheap now, that doesnt matter as much

DAIDAI
Mar 6, 2006, 09:28 PM
thanks for your response. it seems like the majority of users tend to use the dreamweaver and flash application.

hopejr
Mar 7, 2006, 04:31 AM
I use dreamweaver, but mainly in code view. It's good. I also host my site on my linux server :P

demallien
Mar 7, 2006, 09:20 AM
i'm completely new to the mac forums and wanted to get a general opinion on what application do mac users use? dreamweaver or web objects? i hear dreamweaver is a better application and easy to use... is this true?

also...for creating websites, what domain register and hosting company do most mac users prefer? in the past i've used godaddy and 1&1.

opinions welcome...

signed,

new macuser.

As someone else (tried) to say, WebObjects and Dreamweaver aren't the same thing. WebObjects is more like ColdFusion, which is Macromedia's (now Adobe's) web development framework that is used to create a link between dynamically created web pages and a backend database. ColdFusion is well integrated with Dreamweaver to provide the full website creation environment, and is quite popular.

Other open source solutions available for the Mac include AJAX and Ruby on Rails...

I don't actually do web development, so I can't tell you which is easier to use.

Thom_Edwards
Mar 7, 2006, 07:08 PM
As someone else (tried) to say, WebObjects and Dreamweaver aren't the same thing. WebObjects is more like ColdFusion, which is Macromedia's (now Adobe's) web development framework that is used to create a link between dynamically created web pages and a backend database. ColdFusion is well integrated with Dreamweaver to provide the full website creation environment, and is quite popular.

Other open source solutions available for the Mac include AJAX and Ruby on Rails...

I don't actually do web development, so I can't tell you which is easier to use.

i don't want to sound nit-picky, but Ajax and RoR are about as dissimilar as Dreamweaver and WebObjects. Actually, the only two things similar in this list of 4 are RoR and WebObjects. Ajax is just a way for web pages to retrieve and display data without loading a new page and has nothing to do with page design. RoR is a (quite complicated for a newbie, imho) framework for building web applications and, again, doesn't really aid in the layout of pages.

but, in answer to the original post, if you want a wysiwyg to help with page layout, i think Dreamweaver is the best option between that and WebObjects. if you're looking to build web applications, i would use any old text editor as dreamweaver is quite overkill for that. i don't really know many people still using webobjects (besides apple). but i certainly could just be ignorant of its usage.

emaja
Mar 7, 2006, 07:24 PM
...what domain register and hosting company do most mac users prefer? in the past i've used godaddy and 1&1.

I use Yahoo (http://sbs.smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=TROPHY&ovchn=GGL&ovcpn=Domains&ovcrn=sr2yb60go6218sc5613pi5ai79+yahoo+domains&ovtac=PPC) for the registration. They are running a deal now for $2.99 a year and you can lock it in for up to five years. That is significantly less than the standard $10 a year that most places are changing.

I have been using DreamHost (http://www.dreamhost.com/). A lot of people here hate them for their overselling, but since I got an entire year of hosting with 20Gb of storage and 1TB of bandwidth for $9.50, I figured if it was as bad as some have made it sound, at least it was cheap. Use the promo code "777" and you will get their seventh anniversary special - and no this is not a personal promo code where I get a kickback.