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thumper
Mar 2, 2006, 07:01 PM
[CENTER] * Welcome to the MacRumors Studio *
http://www.euphonix.com/live/live_clients/soh_rec_side.jpg

We want to hear your TUNES!!!

This is a comfy cozy place where we can share
our own music creations with fellow musicians
and accept constructive criticism warmly.

For fun lets judge each song in 4 categories.

1 - Originality - 1
2 - Technical - 2
3 - Catchiness - 3
4 - Overall - 4

We'll use the emotions to represent 1(low)-5(high)
for each category,
1=:mad: it's Bad
2=:( it's ok
3=:) it's good
4=:D it's Great
5=:eek: it's AWESOME!!!

Example:
"You Rock My World" -Micheal Jackson
I didn't care for it but have to give it credit from a technical stand point and
the overall catchiness.
:mad: :( :) :mad:

So, Lets get Started !!!


* If you have no way of uploading your songs
use some FREE web space providers like..

RapidShare
h**p://rapidshare.de



e-clipse
Mar 2, 2006, 11:23 PM
Please take time to check out a symphony piece I am currently working on.
I am using Reason 3 to write the piece. Any comments are welcomed! :)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=463427

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 12:13 AM
what the hell.

Rain (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/ShovelChoir/40/Rain%20051123.mp3)

this was recorded (iirc) in 1994, by my old band Shovel Choir in our old basement studio. i'm the keyboardist. we pulled this off the original 8-track tape a couple months ago and did this roughmix.

enjoy.

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 12:17 AM
Ida B. Wells (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/BoxSetAuthentic/YearoftheMonkey/not%20cool,%20trumfio%20051102b.mp3)

this is my current "band" (actually more of a recording project), Box Set Authentic (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/). we recorded this in my house a couple years ago. it's another rough mix (we're kinda bad at finishing things). i played the keys and did the mix.

btw -- the song name in the mp3 tag won't match, we've changed the name

beatsme
Mar 3, 2006, 12:32 PM
Ida B. Wells (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/BoxSetAuthentic/YearoftheMonkey/not%20cool,%20trumfio%20051102b.mp3)

this is my current "band" (actually more of a recording project), Box Set Authentic (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/). we recorded this in my house a couple years ago. it's another rough mix (we're kinda bad at finishing things). i played the keys and did the mix.

btw -- the song name in the mp3 tag won't match, we've changed the name

very neat, atmospheric and dissonant. I'd quite like to hear a final mix of it.

If you don't have these albums already, you should pick up "Eccsame The Photon Band" and "In The Presence Of Nothing" by the Lilys. You'd probably like them.

good job

beatsme
Mar 3, 2006, 12:38 PM
Please take time to check out a symphony piece I am currently working on.
I am using Reason 3 to write the piece. Any comments are welcomed! :)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=463427

I can't imagine how you are able to keep track of something this complex! Well-crafted...

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 01:07 PM
very neat, atmospheric and dissonant. I'd quite like to hear a final mix of it.
you and me both :-)

quick anecdote about the recording: the 4 of us there are musicians and, to some degree or another, engineers. after the two guitar amps were set up and mic'ed, i placed another mic in the stone-tiled shower of an adjacent bathroom, as kind of an affected room mic.

the others made fun of me. until we listened to playback. the guitar sounds in that mix are mostly shower mic.

pick up "Eccsame The Photon Band" and "In The Presence Of Nothing" by the Lilys.
thanks for that.

thumper
Mar 3, 2006, 01:19 PM
I can't imagine how you are able to keep track of something this complex! Well-crafted...

ya, that reminds me of playing some of the older FF games.
great piece of work!
:) :eek: :D :D

thumper
Mar 3, 2006, 01:22 PM
what the hell.

Rain (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/ShovelChoir/40/Rain%20051123.mp3)

this was recorded (iirc) in 1994, by my old band Shovel Choir in our old basement studio. i'm the keyboardist. we pulled this off the original 8-track tape a couple months ago and did this roughmix.

enjoy.

sounds better then my old bands 8track recording!
pretty new aged for music in 1994 id have to say.
:) :) :D :)

thumper
Mar 3, 2006, 01:25 PM
Ida B. Wells (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/BoxSetAuthentic/YearoftheMonkey/not%20cool,%20trumfio%20051102b.mp3)

this is my current "band" (actually more of a recording project), Box Set Authentic (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/). we recorded this in my house a couple years ago. it's another rough mix (we're kinda bad at finishing things). i played the keys and did the mix.

btw -- the song name in the mp3 tag won't match, we've changed the name

i love this kind of "chill" music. very ambient. reminds me of some of the music in the movie "lost in traslation"
:D :) :) :D

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 01:35 PM
sounds better then my old bands 8track recording!
pretty new aged for music in 1994 id have to say.
:) :) :D :)
thanks. i wish we'd not hit the tape so hard, the tracks were hard to work with (too compressed and lacking in high end). i'm not certain how familiar with the tune anyone is, it's an old Beatles b-side.

i love this kind of "chill" music. very ambient. reminds me of some of the music in the movie "lost in traslation"
:D :) :) :D
we're all kevin shields fans, so i'm not too surprised. thanks for the compliment!

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 01:41 PM
Please take time to check out a symphony piece I am currently working on.
the piece i'm supposed to be listening to is 'Exploration', yes?

i love your use of the timpani at 0:29. the piece evolves nicely throughout. good work.

edit: i'm an idiot. i just located Rediscovery. that's the piece. listening now.

edit2: Rediscovery: nice piece. have another listen to the crash (?) cymbal, though, it wasn't working for me. perhaps a cymbal with a longer tail?

e-clipse
Mar 3, 2006, 01:46 PM
ya, that reminds me of playing some of the older FF games.
great piece of work!
:) :eek: :D :D

Thankyou! My inspiration came from Final Fantasy 6 (ff3 in America)
The King of the mobile Sand Castle Theme.

e-clipse
Mar 3, 2006, 01:53 PM
Ida B. Wells (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/BoxSetAuthentic/YearoftheMonkey/not%20cool,%20trumfio%20051102b.mp3)

this is my current "band" (actually more of a recording project), Box Set Authentic (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/). we recorded this in my house a couple years ago. it's another rough mix (we're kinda bad at finishing things). i played the keys and did the mix.

btw -- the song name in the mp3 tag won't match, we've changed the name

Reminds me alot of Radiohead and Aphex Twin. Really cool use of guitar and synth bends. :D :) :) :D

e-clipse
Mar 3, 2006, 02:01 PM
what the hell.

Rain (http://www.boxsetauthentic.com/Music/ShovelChoir/40/Rain%20051123.mp3)

this was recorded (iirc) in 1994, by my old band Shovel Choir in our old basement studio. i'm the keyboardist. we pulled this off the original 8-track tape a couple months ago and did this roughmix.

enjoy.

The opening has a Coldplay feel (before Colplay was a thought)...which is awesome! It is a wonderfuly done Beatles cover:)

:) :D :D :D

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 02:02 PM
synth bends
i reckon that's the guitar with ebow you're hearing. my friend mike is a whiz with that thing.

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 02:05 PM
The opening
thanks! i made those sounds when i was in the phase where i'd make sounds from scratch with my ensoniq eps-16. instead of sampling, i would program in a square wave, then go to town with filters and such. all the synth sounds in Rain were made like that.

jordanste
Mar 3, 2006, 07:08 PM
experimental/ambient/electronica (http://www.myspace.com/goodmorningyourelate)

e-clipse
Mar 3, 2006, 07:34 PM
How long does it take for your tracks to load? I have waited for over 5 minutes.

zimv20
Mar 3, 2006, 08:24 PM
i gave it 10 minutes and got nothing but "buffering..."

e-clipse
Mar 3, 2006, 08:26 PM
i gave it 10 minutes and got nothing but "buffering..."
Man...that sucks.

thumper
Mar 3, 2006, 09:10 PM
Man...that sucks.
ya... me too
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

e-clipse
Mar 3, 2006, 09:34 PM
Here is a track I started on today. It still needs the electric guitar lead work.
I used loops and samples from a sample and loop cd I am currently writing.


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=463427

frankblundt
Mar 3, 2006, 10:33 PM
The Photographer (http://www.anarchytm.com/mp3/rainydays/facework/Photographer.mp3) - my personal favourite off the album

Pathetique
Mar 4, 2006, 01:05 AM
I've got a project I'm doing called Dante's First Circle. I'm in the process of writing a concept album based on Dante's Inferno. The intro song is up (It Begins). The other three songs are just ones i came up with before i got my idea to do this.

http://www.purevolume.com/dantesfirstcircle

I used reason 3.0 and garageband on every one

zimv20
Mar 4, 2006, 02:18 AM
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=463427
check your link.

The Truth
Mar 4, 2006, 02:53 AM
Check out my garageband track "Melodramatic Rhyme". (http://web.mac.com/ryansalisbury/iWeb/TheDiversion/downloads_files/Melodramatic%20Rhyme.mp3)

zimv20
Mar 4, 2006, 02:58 AM
Check out my garageband track "Melodramatic Rhyme". (http://web.mac.com/ryansalisbury/iWeb/TheDiversion/downloads_files/Melodramatic%20Rhyme.mp3)
what a fun track. nice. shades of TMBG.

what mic are you using on your voice?

The Truth
Mar 4, 2006, 03:09 AM
It's through a Behringer Condenser mic.

zimv20
Mar 4, 2006, 05:16 AM
It's through a Behringer Condenser mic.
i noticed a lot of sibilance on your voice. try taping a pencil vertically across the grill and see if that knocks it down some.

Benjamindaines
Mar 4, 2006, 10:32 AM
Check out my garageband track "Melodramatic Rhyme". (http://web.mac.com/ryansalisbury/iWeb/TheDiversion/downloads_files/Melodramatic%20Rhyme.mp3)
Thats great, you're voice kind of reminds me of Weird Al, good stuff :D :D

thumper
Mar 4, 2006, 12:47 PM
Check out my garageband track "Melodramatic Rhyme". (http://web.mac.com/ryansalisbury/iWeb/TheDiversion/downloads_files/Melodramatic%20Rhyme.mp3)

well that was enjoyable to listen to!
nice work with the BG's. you obviously know what your doing.
:) :) :D :D

e-clipse
Mar 4, 2006, 02:05 PM
check your link.
Thankyou! I fixed it.:)

e-clipse
Mar 4, 2006, 02:10 PM
The Photographer (http://www.anarchytm.com/mp3/rainydays/facework/Photographer.mp3) - my personal favourite off the album

I like the saxophone section alot.
:D :) :D :)

e-clipse
Mar 4, 2006, 02:14 PM
I've got a project I'm doing called Dante's First Circle. I'm in the process of writing a concept album based on Dante's Inferno. The intro song is up (It Begins). The other three songs are just ones i came up with before i got my idea to do this.

http://www.purevolume.com/dantesfirstcircle

I used reason 3.0 and garageband on every one

Your individual instrument stereo fields are wonderful. Good mix and clarity. Pretty cool tracks..:) :) :D:eek:

e-clipse
Mar 4, 2006, 02:18 PM
Check out my garageband track "Melodramatic Rhyme". (http://web.mac.com/ryansalisbury/iWeb/TheDiversion/downloads_files/Melodramatic%20Rhyme.mp3)

That track is really catchy and hilarious. I really dig it.

:D :) :D :D

bartelby
Mar 5, 2006, 03:56 AM
I while back I developed a spreadsheet system to generate patches for the Subtractor and Malstrom synths in Reason. This then gave me the idea to create spreadsheets to generate the actual info for patterns as well.
In all the tracks I created everything was random:

bpm, number of bars in track, level of each channel in each bar, etc.

This is the easiest track to listen to. I'm a fan of John Cage and noise artists like Merzbow, Boris and NON so I really like it.

Randomness 3 (http://www.punkactionshotgun.co.uk/random/Randomness%203.mp3)

The Truth
Mar 6, 2006, 04:50 PM
:eek: :D :mad: :(

Wow that really was random. I have to admire it for the technical knowledge that went into it... Still, I can't imagine my self humming it as I walk down the street.

Maxiseller
Mar 18, 2006, 04:52 PM
Here is some soundtrack work:

http://www.music-solutions.biz/Landing.mp3

It's basically written primarily in logic using a variety of soft synths/samples etc...

e-clipse
Mar 18, 2006, 06:55 PM
:D :eek: :D :D

The only things I would work on would be the brass, it sounded more like sampled horns instead of having the expressiveness of an air blown horn. It can be created by manually altering the attack and release. However, I love the tone of the brass used! Plus, personally I would like the attacks to come down harder. I want to feel the strength of the percussion. Maybe some cymbal crashes should be added when the percussion enters in. The strings are tight! It kinda has a Phillip Glass and Burkhard Dallwitz feel to it. Phillip Glass and Burkhard Dallwitz made amazing music for the theme of The Truman Show. The movie wouldn't have worked without it. I over critiqued it, because I like it so much!

e-clipse
Mar 18, 2006, 07:04 PM
^^^^

I wish my symphonic track had some of the depth your's has.

Maxiseller
Mar 18, 2006, 07:27 PM
Well I'll certainly try altering the attack and release - very useful tip, thank you.

I love the music for the Truman show also - it's interesting becasue I wouldn't have tied together a link until you just said it!

The sample collection I was using was EWQLSO (East West Quantum Leap Symphony Orchestra) and they have some amazing orchestral collections. The Vienna Symphony Orchestra Collection is also supposed to be amazing although I haven't used it myself.

Glad you like though :)

e-clipse
Mar 18, 2006, 07:36 PM
Those orchestra samples sound wonderful!

You inspired me to work on my piece more.It is funny how I wrote my piece and didn't even notice my problem areas til I hear someone else's piece in a similar genre. My snare work was horrible! lol My strings needed more space to fill, so I gave the more orchestral room reverb.


You do beautiful work. You deserved a top score.:cool:

thumper
Mar 19, 2006, 12:43 PM
Here is some soundtrack work:

http://www.music-solutions.biz/Landing.mp3

It's basically written primarily in logic using a variety of soft synths/samples etc...

:D :eek: :D :D

IM BUYING SOME EAST WEST STUFF!!!
i only got stormdrum..
looks like ill have an empty pocket this month

Maxiseller
Mar 19, 2006, 09:46 PM
:D :eek: :D :D

IM BUYING SOME EAST WEST STUFF!!!
i only got stormdrum..
looks like ill have an empty pocket this month

SampleTank 2 is another great all round collection, with a powerful sampler built right in - def worth a look at that!

e-clipse
Mar 19, 2006, 10:22 PM
thread borrow:cool:

Do you know how the Yamaha Motif Es Orchestra sounds in comparison to East West Symphony?

Maxiseller
Mar 19, 2006, 10:28 PM
The problem is, it's a subjective thing.

My big "gripe" about patches and sample libraries are the strings section - they're almost never accurate enough, and if they are you either get this "harsh" sound or a very mellow "washy" sound, which doesn't in any way reflect a typical warmth of a 50 piece string orchestra...for me, the EWQLSO outclasses the motif in this area...

The motif has some great sounds however...and it's got a much wider variety. The EWQLSO is literally just a Symphony Orchestra Sample Library. If you're thinking of using pianos, pads etc the Motif is best for you.

I try and take a very minimalist approach however and use as many software solutions as I can - so no motif for me :(

Check out the demos at Yamaha.com and soundsonline.com

thumper
Mar 20, 2006, 11:11 AM
i know the triton is a little bit older but i think the triton has
some great sounding stingd also.

e-clipse
Mar 20, 2006, 07:57 PM
I have updated my symphony piece...I was wondering if you (maxiseller) could critique my track. I would like to clean it up before venturing further into the piece.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=463427
the track is titled "rediscovery"

Maxiseller
Mar 21, 2006, 03:04 PM
Well, I really like it; A few points to consider however.

At 1.10 the first incarnation of the clarinet cadenza begins - but I think this is the perfect opportunity for a little playing around with the tempo of the track - it could be completly rubato, pulling and pushing with the listners perception of the pulse. It would be excellent if these were almost made a little longer.

Secondly, a more general point is the use of dynamic contrast; while there is instrumental contrast between more often than not, woodwind/whole orchestra there is very little rising and falling of actual dynamics - which can make a piece very static.

The chord at 1.47 has an excellent climax - the above will hopefully enable you to lower the resty of the volumes so that when you get here, everything can be pushed up.

Basically though, these are just things I wanted to hear as I was going through. Its got fantastic use of going between motifs and ideas, and the use of woodwind against brass and strings is great! That EWQLSO has some amazing Orchestral percussion too that may help with the snare montage at the end!

e-clipse
Mar 21, 2006, 04:58 PM
:) Thank you very much! I really like the idea of giving the piece the human feel, by tempo changes. I will work on the track on the areas you specified. I need help from someone who can point me in the right direction, and you are it.

I am going to invest in the EWQLSO at a later date. Then I can switch out the samples over the track I have already, and get a better sound. It is like putting a turbo chip in a vehicle. :)

Maxiseller
Mar 21, 2006, 05:09 PM
Yeh, I think that'l work really well!

PM me if you need anything! It's always good to have other people to bounce work and ideas off.

Pathetique
Mar 22, 2006, 01:45 PM
I just put up a new song, let me know what you think

http://www.purevolume.com/dantesfirstcircle

It's the first one, "When Stepping Aside Causes Heartache"

bartelby
Mar 23, 2006, 06:31 AM
:eek: :D :mad: :(

Wow that really was random. I have to admire it for the technical knowledge that went into it... Still, I can't imagine my self humming it as I walk down the street.

:)
I'm working on totally random music at the moment.
Instead of keeping stuff in the same key, I'll allow it choose any note at all.

Maxiseller
Apr 30, 2006, 05:59 PM
Just started work on a new piece that I thought it would be good to get peoples thoughts and ideas on:

It's a kinda "Gaelic Melody" which is based on simplicity and power - reflective in the wonderment of nature, and yet the simplicity of it.

Check out http://www.music-solutions.biz/irish.mp3 and let me know what you think!

Mr Skills
May 1, 2006, 09:55 AM
Ooh, this is fun! See what you think of my band. (http://www.myspace.com/templescene) :)

I guess if everyone has to judge one particular song you might as well make it "Breathing" (the first one), or judge whichever one you like... it plays different songs randomly so make sure you are listening to what you think you are (if you see what I mean).

I'm at work at the moment but I'll have a listen to you other guys when no-ones looking over my shoulder :D

zimv20
May 1, 2006, 12:35 PM
Ooh, this is fun! See what you think of my band. (http://www.myspace.com/templescene) :)
yeah, nice work. recording and mixing were well done, and i like the arrangements. fyi -- i listened to Breathing and Something...

the only thing that bugged me a little is the vocal processing. the vocals sit nicely, but i think they could stand to have some more high-end, or "air". i have a term for this: "it makes me feel like i'm wearing a hat."

Stampyhead
May 1, 2006, 01:24 PM
Just started work on a new piece that I thought it would be good to get peoples thoughts and ideas on:

It's a kinda "Gaelic Melody" which is based on simplicity and power - reflective in the wonderment of nature, and yet the simplicity of it.

Check out http://www.music-solutions.biz/irish.mp3 and let me know what you think!
Very nice, I liked it a lot. There was some clipping in the loud percussion at the end, but otherwise well done.
What instrument library did you use? I like the sound of that solo violin.

Mr Skills
May 1, 2006, 03:09 PM
sit nicely, but i think they could stand to have some more high-end, or "air". i have a term for this: "it makes me feel like i'm wearing a hat."

That's the really-low-bitrate streaming on MySpace I'm afraid, kills everything above about 12k, and much more noticeable on unmastered stuff.

My preferred phrase is "sounds like it's got a ********** sock on it!" :D

zimv20
May 1, 2006, 03:16 PM
My preferred phrase is "sounds like it's got a ********** sock on it!" :D
heh heh. thanks for letting me know about the myspace deficiencies.

iamhammill
May 4, 2006, 06:52 PM
www.myspace.com/jakeandelong


The real singer can be heard on "If All Else Fails" We recorded that on iRiver the first time we got together, and have been too busy to record anything else.


The other songs are all done by me with GB, a 4 Track firewire interface and an 8 track mixer. Well except the Burrito Song, that was done on my old PC.