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maclamb
Feb 1, 2002, 09:03 PM
One way to test/compare speed of your machine might be to see how long classic takes to start from OSX .
I assume there is a good mix of Harddrive as well as CPU, no?

Mine:

Ti667, 1 G RAM, 30G HD
102.42 seconds (started from system prefs)...

and yours?

eyelikeart
Feb 1, 2002, 09:10 PM
I don't think that can be an accurate measurement...

depending on what speed system u have....
which OS Classic is....
which extensions are loaded....

it can vary quite a bit I'd imagine? :confused:

Beej
Feb 1, 2002, 09:45 PM
Time: 38 secs
Started from: Sys prefs
Extensions: off
Processor: G4 400
RAM: 640 MB
HD: 7220 RPM
OS X: 10.1.2
OS 9: 9.2.1

It's not really a good benchmark at all. But that's what mine does.

maclamb
Feb 1, 2002, 09:57 PM
agreed - not my best idea...:(

What do you think of time to boot in OSX?
Time to first display of Desktop?

Just looking for something we all have that we could test and share - a "universal" benchmark?

Catfish_Man
Feb 1, 2002, 10:34 PM
...is an excellent idea. Perhaps we should measure performance in several categories, then do a weighted average to get a "Total Performance Rating".

Some obvious benchmarks:

OpenGL performance: Quake III framerates (average of several resolutions)
Disk Performance: Copy times for several folder sizes
Application Start Times: Average of some standard bouncemarks
Operating System Start Times: Boot times for latest 9.x and 10.x systems
CD read speed: Copy times from CD Drive to RAM disk
CD write speed: Copy times from RAM disk to CD Drive
DVD read speed: same as CD
DVD write speed: same as CD
Altivec Performance: ratio of Altivec Fractal Carbon Demo (AFCD) scores with Altivec on and off.
Non-Altivec Math speed: AFCD w/out Altivec
Altivec Math speed: AFCD w/ Altivec
2D performance (Altivec): Photoshop filters
2D performance (non-Altivec): some non-Altivec accelerated graphics program (the GIMP maybe? It's Linux so it might not use Altivec)
etc...

If you wanted a benchmark that didn't include some (like cd-writing for example) you just leave that test out.

moby1
Feb 1, 2002, 10:40 PM
I use Conflict Catcher (awesome app'!) to control my extensions and created a 'Classic' set.

I've had several sub. 30 sec. startups on my G4 500 Ti and present G4 550 Ti.

Hemingray
Feb 1, 2002, 10:50 PM
That's an excellent idea, having a Classic Set of extensions! Thank you for that! (:::goes and sees how fast he can make classic boot:::) :D

Hemingray
Feb 1, 2002, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Beej
Time: 38 secs
Started from: Sys prefs
Extensions: off
Processor: G4 400
RAM: 640 MB
HD: 7220 RPM
OS X: 10.1.2
OS 9: 9.2.1

It's not really a good benchmark at all. But that's what mine does.

Wow, really? Mine with extensions off took about 14 secs...

Processor: G4 400
RAM: 1024MB
OS 9: 9.2.2

Would be much more practical to have extensions on, tho. ;) Unfortunately, this skyrockets the time up to 48 seconds!

DakotaGuy
Feb 2, 2002, 12:18 AM
G3 400 Mhz 128MB RAM 10GB HD 120 seconds (extensions on)
49 seconds (restarting w/extensions off)


G3 600 Mhz 256MB RAM 20GB HD 62 seconds (extensions on)
12 seconds (restarting w/ extensions off)

started from the control panel

They are both configured the exact same way...but I would have to agree that it is not a good test otherwise why is my iBook kicking your TiBook out of here...

maclamb
Feb 2, 2002, 03:01 AM
Wow - great replies....

I've been reading that the concensus seems to be that games (quake, etc) are not good measures of mchine speed - too much video chip and that 3D rendering is better.

Perhaps we coulld down load a demo version of Electric Image for OSX and compare rendering times fo rthe same model?

:p