Windows XP Installing on narf2006's iMac! [Archive]

alep85

Mar 13, 2006, 12:55 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=110977744&size=o

Boy I hope its not long now, it would be nice to run a few Windows games on this badass graphics card on my MBP!

Hopefully narf2006 (big dev working on this at the winxponmac contest) can figure it out soon!

munkees

Mar 13, 2006, 01:08 AM

I think I am going to throw up:eek:

Aramis

Mar 13, 2006, 01:21 AM

balamw

Mar 13, 2006, 01:26 AM

OK - I am a relatively new switcher, but why would you want to put XP on Mac hardware? I would assume one would be looking for a dual boot environment? Since Windows is optimized for PC hardware, wouldnt there be a performance hit?
If what you mean by PC hardware is (pretty much) anything with an Intel x86 CPU, then the Intel Macs are PC hardware, and pretty decent PC hardware at that.

Furthermore, Windows isn't optimized to run on anything, its biggest strength and a huge weakness is the huge amount of hardware that is actually supported by the OS. The only thing missing is the BIOS compatibility layer which is required to make the up to date PC hardware behave like a 1981 vintage PC so the stupid Windows OS can boot. Hence the contest.

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mad jew

Mar 13, 2006, 01:27 AM

For everyone's safety I'm going to assume that's an old G5 iMac running Virtual PC. :o

I don't care. You can't convince me I'm wrong. :p

Shamus

Mar 13, 2006, 01:35 AM

For everyone's safety I'm going to assume that's an old G5 iMac running Virtual PC. :o

I don't care. You can't convince me I'm wrong. :p

I'd have to agree with you.

ncook06

Mar 13, 2006, 01:54 AM

I'd just like to have something to run Windows for when I actually need it. I know tons of people that would get a Mac if it could run Windows in addition to OS X.

bigfib

Mar 13, 2006, 03:09 AM

You guys really need to look more closely at the pics...
The bottom right hand corner of
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32436196@N00/110650771/
is SOOOO obviously photoshopped (really badly at that).
Unless of course there's a new "screen peeling off" issue with new imacs...

After G

Mar 13, 2006, 04:04 AM

For people who need it, running XP or Vista would be a godsend. I know it's necessary for some people. It's a necessary evil. I wish the world would have standardized on a Unix.

p0intblank

Mar 13, 2006, 09:26 AM

Arcus

Mar 13, 2006, 09:48 AM

Ive recall reading of someone getting this far before but it craps out soon after. Dont get excited.

Also, if you were able to complete the install and get it running why the HELL would you take such a terrible picture?

TDM21

Mar 13, 2006, 10:16 AM

I need more proof then just a few photos. A video showing the system boot up and start the installation will be more convincing. The guy could be using QEMU for all we know.

GyroFX

Mar 13, 2006, 11:02 AM

i have a question...(whenever windows will run on the Mac)

so, you're using windows and you happen to catch some virus...now, will those virus affect you when you switch back to OSX?

treblah

Mar 13, 2006, 11:18 AM

i have a question...(whenever windows will run on the Mac)

so, you're using windows and you happen to catch some virus...now, will those virus affect you when you switch back to OSX?

No.

dejo

Mar 13, 2006, 11:31 AM

Here's my question: Is it really so hard to learn how to focus your camera? I mean, if you can really get XP running on an iMac, you're not that technically inept. :confused:

alep85

Mar 13, 2006, 11:37 AM

What narf has posted is believed to be legit, he has secretly shown his ideas to the WinXPonMac contest person, and he has verified that he's on his way. A big issue was VGA on the Intel Macs. From what I've heard, he developed some sort of CSM for the EFI to boot Windows. So it's not photoshopped, at least he's given no prior indication to support that.

wasimyaqoob

Mar 13, 2006, 11:40 AM

yes it maybe good to have Windows on your Mac, but personally i think this is TOTALLY CRAP!

Kingsly

Mar 13, 2006, 11:40 AM

Here's my question: Is it really so hard to learn how to focus your camera? I mean, if you can really get XP running on an iMac, you're not that technically inept. :confused:
I don't know, those elevators can be pretty shaky. ;)

Lord Blackadder

Mar 13, 2006, 12:13 PM

Grainy pictures = flummery.

FAKE.

(not that I don't want this to be real)

MacRumorUser

Mar 13, 2006, 12:46 PM

Grainy pictures = flummery.

FAKE.

(not that I don't want this to be real)

Have to agree.

I managed to get XP working on my intel mac with Q unstable universal beta. Had to do the install on my powermac G5 & then drag the image over to my imac. It's very slow and crappy. I wouldnt even use it to check websites and design work on it....

There are legitamate reasons apple peeps why being able to run windows would be handy for some. We have all but given up using PC's here in the studio but there are a couple of application that dont have alternatives on mac that we need. We just want to be pc hardware free, and the ability to be able to boot up from an external drive seems handy for us.

Until it's possible I have to keep an ugly loooking heap of junk in the studio. Noisy thing that it is :)

beige matchbox

Mar 13, 2006, 01:01 PM

Thats nothing, i've managed to get it installing on a PPC :eek:

No use of photoshop, just took a pic of whats on the screen.

http://beigematchbox.co.uk/xpbooksm.jpg

Fear my elite coding skills :cool:

Or, maybe i just found a screenshot in google and made it full screen, then took the pic :rolleyes:

dejo

Mar 13, 2006, 01:54 PM

Or, maybe i just found a screenshot in google and made it full screen, then took the pic :rolleyes:

I'm kinda suspicious. That may be real. Far too focused to be a fake! ;)

whooleytoo

Mar 13, 2006, 02:27 PM

Or, maybe i just found a screenshot in google and made it full screen, then took the pic :rolleyes:

No, I think you're wrong there, it's definitely real. The way the blueness of the screen reflects off the keyboard is perfect, no photoshopper could get that effect just right. The envelope under the corner is obviously fake, but it's so fake it's to distract you from the obvious overall non-fakeness.

It must be real. I'll take two. :p

majorp

Mar 13, 2006, 02:37 PM

i did make a new thread but it closed...oh well. apparently he has actually finished doing it now.

new link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32436196@N00/112053885/

http://forum.onmac.net/showthread.php?t=64

iMeowbot

Mar 13, 2006, 06:07 PM

Some folks from IBM Almaden are also claiming to have worked out a BIOS compatibility solution (a bootloader using the Bochs BIOS code as a shim). They aren't showing pictures or code at the moment, but at least real, identifiable people are involved.

[edit: whoops, link (http://www.osxbook.com/book/bonus/misc/legacyboot/). ]

mkrishnan

Mar 13, 2006, 06:20 PM

No, I think you're wrong there, it's definitely real. The way the blueness of the screen reflects off the keyboard is perfect, no photoshopper could get that effect just right. The envelope under the corner is obviously fake, but it's so fake it's to distract you from the obvious overall non-fakeness.

Even if it is real, what reason does anyone have to not believe it's a guest OS running on top of OS X on either an Intel or PPC Mac?

dejo

Mar 13, 2006, 06:26 PM

apparently he has actually finished doing it now.

Great. Now maybe he has some time to figure out how to focus his camera. That's still pissing me off. :mad:

balamw

Mar 13, 2006, 06:48 PM

They aren't showing pictures or code at the moment, but at least real, identifiable people are involved.

Since the osxbook guys were the ones that got Knoppix running in the first place and released a test-drive image, it seems perfectly credible.

Here's hoping one of these two teams will collect the bounty.

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DeathChill

Mar 13, 2006, 06:55 PM

Uh the reason all the pictures are extremely horrible are because of the fact that it's a camera phone, as he states in most of the pictures. That'd be why they suck so bad.

I believe they are real, but who knows.