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Poff
Mar 23, 2006, 03:12 PM
http://media.revolutionreport.com/hardware/gdc06_rev5.jpg

http://media.revolutionreport.com/hardware/gdc06_rev2.jpg

http://media.revolutionreport.com/hardware/gdc06_rev3.jpg



rye9
Mar 23, 2006, 03:16 PM
I am dying to get one.... the expo in May cant come soon enough!!!!!!!

2nyRiggz
Mar 23, 2006, 03:20 PM
That thing is lovelifull!! at least the cable isn't beast size.
the fan holes are big though...dust heaven.

Bless

Abulia
Mar 23, 2006, 03:42 PM
Who's the first to make the jump rope joke?



Oh...sorry. :)

maya
Mar 23, 2006, 03:44 PM
Has Nintendo heard or "wireless" or are they saving it as an option. ;) :)

zelmo
Mar 23, 2006, 03:47 PM
It's a very clean design, and will look good sitting next to my other consoles. I'm really looking forward to this console, more so than any past Nintendo release.

Abulia
Mar 23, 2006, 03:54 PM
Dumb question... Every picture thus far shows the Rev as this strange geometric shape upright in this stand; does the Rev run on a sideways (ie. "normal") profile? I'd assume so.

Told you it was a dumb question. :)

takao
Mar 23, 2006, 03:58 PM
the fan holes are big though...dust heaven.


look quite small to me.. each hole is perhaps half the size of one usb connector... that's perhaps 0,7 x 0.7 cm ... .. i'm actually concerned that it might not be enough ;)

after some measurements and rough guessing it's ~12,25 square cm .. compared to the mac mini on my table which has 11,7 square cm outtake holes on the back

cubist
Mar 23, 2006, 04:09 PM
I notice there's no RJ45 jack for wired ethernet :-/ There appear to be some funny-looking 'doors' on the top.

rockthecasbah
Mar 23, 2006, 04:09 PM
Dumb question... Every picture thus far shows the Rev as this strange geometric shape upright in this stand; does the Rev run on a sideways (ie. "normal") profile? I'd assume so.

Told you it was a dumb question. :)
yes, it is supposed to run perfectly "sideways."

in any rate, where were those pictures taken?

GFLPraxis
Mar 23, 2006, 04:10 PM
Dumb question... Every picture thus far shows the Rev as this strange geometric shape upright in this stand; does the Rev run on a sideways (ie. "normal") profile? I'd assume so.

Told you it was a dumb question. :)

Yep!

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/615/615030/e3-2005-high-res-revolution-images-20050517100457053.jpg

GFLPraxis
Mar 23, 2006, 04:11 PM
I notice there's no RJ45 jack for wired ethernet :-/ There appear to be some funny-looking 'doors' on the top.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

It's got WiFi standard and Nintendo might sell a USB-to-ethernet adapter (there are plenty on the market) but it'd be nicer if Ethernet was standard, I agree. But WiFi is more important to me than Ethernet.

Abulia
Mar 23, 2006, 04:12 PM
Yep!

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/615/615030/e3-2005-high-res-revolution-images-20050517100457053.jpgHey, are they making them like this? 'Cause this is a hell of a lot sexier than the beige plastic linked up top!

takao
Mar 23, 2006, 04:16 PM
Hey, are they making them like this? 'Cause this is a hell of a lot sexier than the beige plastic linked up top!

well that 'beige' is white in dark surroundings .. just an imac turns beige with less light ;) (SCNR)

side note: the doors on the upper side reveal the gamecube controller + memory card ports

personally i would have liked an ethernet additionally too since in my dorm it's not that far to the router like at home where i'm gonna use wireless... but it's still some time.. after all i guess it's still not final

BlizzardBomb
Mar 23, 2006, 04:17 PM
God, I hate it when they tease us like this :p

GFLPraxis
Mar 23, 2006, 04:21 PM
Hey, are they making them like this? 'Cause this is a hell of a lot sexier than the beige plastic linked up top!

Five colors actually unless plans change.

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/615/615030/e3-2005-high-res-revolution-images-20050517100456459.jpg

The white one in the back is the 'beige plastic' one at the top.

Looks like it'll come in black, iPod white, platinum, Ferrarri Red, and Puke Green. Maybe Snot Green :P

Eidorian
Mar 23, 2006, 04:25 PM
I notice there's no RJ45 jack for wired ethernet :-/ There appear to be some funny-looking 'doors' on the top.It should have 802.11x built-in to it. I believe a USB to RJ45 adapter was proposed too. The door at top is for the Gamecube controllers and memory cards.

takao
Mar 23, 2006, 04:28 PM
personally i'm guess that they will aunch with white and black in the beginning ... at least in europe/usa ... perhaps 1-2 colors more in japan...

raggedjimmi
Mar 23, 2006, 05:07 PM
The 'doors' are where you put the old Gamecube controllers, for backwards compatibility like.

Personally, to me at least, that is the single best looking games machine ever. It's just a huge slice of eye candy pie.

Josh396
Mar 23, 2006, 06:08 PM
Personally, to me at least, that is the single best looking games machine ever. It's just a huge slice of eye candy pie.
I agree. I'm hoping they release all the details about it soon, and that it will be shipping sometime soon as long as there aren't any shipping problems.

ravenvii
Mar 23, 2006, 06:21 PM
I just hope they will have WPA capability with the wireless on that thing. The WEP-only capability on the DS is annoying, since I tend to set my wireless networks up with WPA instead of WEP.

raggedjimmi
Mar 23, 2006, 06:24 PM
I don't care how 'done' I'd get. I would have smashed into that glass case and run as fast as my dear legs would go. Just to say "I hugged and ran off with a Revolution".

Maybe this is why I'm not allowed at E3 :rolleyes:

Haoshiro
Mar 23, 2006, 06:27 PM
<snip>
There appear to be some funny-looking 'doors' on the top.

http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/615/615669/newer-better-nintendo-revolution-pics-20050517085520971.jpg

Haoshiro
Mar 23, 2006, 06:28 PM
Dumb question... Every picture thus far shows the Rev as this strange geometric shape upright in this stand; does the Rev run on a sideways (ie. "normal") profile? I'd assume so.

Told you it was a dumb question. :)

http://www.uberbin.net/wp-content/nintendo_revolution.jpg

socamx
Mar 23, 2006, 06:31 PM
Man I want one. Only console I'm actually looking forward to.

nightdweller25
Mar 23, 2006, 08:18 PM
Sweeeeet

rye9
Mar 23, 2006, 08:32 PM
I just hope these things will support HD. If so, this is probably the best console ever in history. I mean, the 360 has nothing really innovative... the ps3 is unknown really right now... but the Revoltuion has the aweomse controllers, sleek form-factor, downloadable games, free Wi-fi. Go Nintendo!!!!! :D

zap2
Mar 23, 2006, 08:33 PM
Nice, i really want one now

I did not know it support GC controllers

kretzy
Mar 23, 2006, 08:42 PM
I want one of these so badly! I think I would get the platinum one to match with my PB. :cool:

I haven't really been keeping up to date, so when is it's expected release?

GFLPraxis
Mar 23, 2006, 08:44 PM
I want one of these so badly! I think I would get the platinum one to match with my PB. :cool:

I haven't really been keeping up to date, so when is it's expected release?


It could be anytime between E3 2006 and Thanksgiving 2006. I think it was Satoru Iwata that stated it would launch before Thanksgiving.
So between June and November.

GFLPraxis
Mar 23, 2006, 08:47 PM
I just hope these things will support HD. If so, this is probably the best console ever in history. I mean, the 360 has nothing really innovative... the ps3 is unknown really right now... but the Revoltuion has the aweomse controllers, sleek form-factor, downloadable games, free Wi-fi. Go Nintendo!!!!! :D
Latest interview with Satoru Iwata, right before his conference, had him confirming there would be no HD support.

I can at least see some positives out of it. As he noted in that interview, HD textures take up 4-6 times more space- since the Rev and XBox 360 both use DVD's, I can imagine that Revolution developers won't have to worry about space as much (seeing how Microsoft is cramming on the compression to get the big games to fit on one disk) and we won't see many multi-disk games. I can also imagine that the Revolution will need less RAM and load much faster (less data to transfer into the RAM than the XBox 360, but the disk drive loads data just as fast, thus, it would load faster).

I would still rather have HD support, but at least we'll get way faster load times and cheaper games (Nintendo stated in the past that they would not increase game price to $60 as other developers are).

rye9
Mar 23, 2006, 08:50 PM
Latest interview with Satoru Iwata, right before his conference, had him confirming there would be no HD support.

I can at least see some positives out of it. As he noted in that interview, HD textures take up 4-6 times more space- since the Rev and XBox 360 both use DVD's, I can imagine that Revolution developers won't have to worry about space as much (seeing how Microsoft is cramming on the compression to get the big games to fit on one disk) and we won't see many multi-disk games. I can also imagine that the Revolution will need less RAM and load much faster (less data to transfer into the RAM than the XBox 360, but the disk drive loads data just as fast, thus, it would load faster).

I would still rather have HD support, but at least we'll get way faster load times and cheaper games (Nintendo stated in the past that they would not increase game price to $60 as other developers are).

Then wont games look grainy on HDTV's as does analog cable?!

kretzy
Mar 23, 2006, 08:50 PM
It could be anytime between E3 2006 and Thanksgiving 2006. I think it was Satoru Iwata that stated it would launch before Thanksgiving.
So between June and November.

Thanks!

I hope it's closer to June, November seems so far away.

GFLPraxis
Mar 23, 2006, 09:01 PM
Then wont games look grainy on HDTV's as does analog cable?!

I'm not sure from the pics, but Nintendo reps have said it will support digital output and 480p.

Dr. Dastardly
Mar 23, 2006, 10:01 PM
Really I don't care much about HD but I do want it to look good on an HDTV which I would get some time in the future.

Even though its not HD would the digital output and the graphics card be able to upconvert the resolution? Or would that make it look like absolute crap?

Counterfit
Mar 23, 2006, 11:04 PM
Looks like it'll come in black, iPod white, platinum, Ferrarri Red, and Puke Green. Maybe Snot Green :P
Or for the really old school Nintendo fan: Charcoal, Ketchup, Mustard, Relish, Plain.





500 points to whoever knows what I'm talking about. :D

hoyboy9
Mar 23, 2006, 11:08 PM
Or for the really old school Nintendo fan: Charcoal, Ketchup, Mustard, Relish, Plain.

500 points to whoever knows what I'm talking about. :D

Game Boy Pocket! I had a plain, see-through one! :-)

jaywong87
Mar 23, 2006, 11:09 PM
Looks like a mac product. Haha, Go Nintendo! The idea of the Revolution really gets me excited about video games again. One thing that I was bored about was the lack of new IPs on our current gen consoles. I mean, Nintendo is a HUGE culprit also. They relied too heavily on it's Mario sports and Nintendo icon's sequels...

This should be interesting with the new Revo.

plinkoman
Mar 23, 2006, 11:41 PM
I'm not sure from the pics, but Nintendo reps have said it will support digital output and 480p.

yea, if you look closely at the pic of the back, you'll notice it is identical to the digital a/v out on the gamecubes that had it.

thus i would be really surprised if 480p wasn't supported. ;)

illegalprelude
Mar 23, 2006, 11:49 PM
all those multi color pictures of the Revolution and it laying on its side with the blue glow is CGI, we all realise that?

~Shard~
Mar 23, 2006, 11:50 PM
Slick looking console. I won't be buying one personally, but nonetheless I can appreciate its design. ;) :cool:

Jovian9
Mar 24, 2006, 12:23 AM
Birthday/Anniversary in the summer and Christmas in the winter....I've already told my wife to scratch any ideas for presents b/c they have to be the Revolution and a DS Lite.
Now I need to decide b/t the black or white Revolution :)

myshoeshurt
Mar 24, 2006, 01:28 AM
Oh man... this is going to be a rad machine. I love the controller (and GameCube ports) :)

~Shard~
Mar 24, 2006, 10:20 AM
Oh man... this is going to be a rad machine. I love the controller (and GameCube ports) :)

Wow, I haven't heard the word "rad" used for a long time... :p :) :cool:

kretzy
Mar 24, 2006, 10:30 AM
Wow, I haven't heard the word "rad" used for a long time... :p :) :cool:
Far out man, I forgot how swell "rad" sounded. :p

~Shard~
Mar 24, 2006, 10:38 AM
Far out man, I forgot how swell "rad" sounded. :p

Yeah, it's pretty gnarly and tubular dude.... :D

raggedjimmi
Mar 24, 2006, 10:46 AM
Oh yes the Rev is certainly dandy, stellar, cosmic and *forgot the other one I said yesterday. hmm*

mrgreen4242
Mar 24, 2006, 11:30 AM
Then wont games look grainy on HDTV's as does analog cable?!

No, not at all. Think about how a DVD looks on an HDTV with component (or DVI/HDMI) cables from a progressive scan player. That's what the Rev will look like. Same resolution, same connection, same clarity. It's not HD, but it ain't bad.

Sdashiki
Mar 24, 2006, 11:38 AM
To those who think HD its the wave of the future in gaming let me set ya straight.

A game can look incredible, beads of sweat pouring down your Madden players, breath seen in cold scrimmages.

But in the end, great graphics HAS NEVER translated to great game.

yes HD is the future, but its waaaay too slow in coming to the realworld market, and we are all antsy for a new gaming console.

the 360 got out first, but its just an XBOX with HD/5.1, nothing new or miraculuous. Games will still be total crap, just look nice.

The Rev. at least is going to make games FUN to play, that look pretty good, but arent HD. To those who think thats a problem in the nextgen consoles, you need to get a clue about what "fun" really is. Last I checked eye candy is only fun to look at, not play with. (unless its a hot chick)

Haoshiro
Mar 24, 2006, 11:52 AM
To those who think HD its the wave of the future in gaming let me set ya straight.

A game can look incredible, beads of sweat pouring down your Madden players, breath seen in cold scrimmages.

But in the end, great graphics HAS NEVER translated to great game.

yes HD is the future, but its waaaay too slow in coming to the realworld market, and we are all antsy for a new gaming console.

the 360 got out first, but its just an XBOX with HD/5.1, nothing new or miraculuous. Games will still be total crap, just look nice.

The Rev. at least is going to make games FUN to play, that look pretty good, but arent HD. To those who think thats a problem in the nextgen consoles, you need to get a clue about what "fun" really is. Last I checked eye candy is only fun to look at, not play with. (unless its a hot chick)

I don't completely agree. I think that too many people discount many aspects of games and presentation. Every part of a game is important and there are benefits from each. Many people are quick to say this or that isn't important and many people have varying opinions on what those things are.

But to contrast I think these things (like graphics, sound, etc) aren't the only things that make a game fun; but they are certaintly important.

I think the reason people get annoyed is because there have been games that only focused on graphics and ended up crap, making us quick to say "bah, graphics aren't important!"

I recently played some Fight Night 3 and it was fun. I thought the controls were interesting and fresh and I thought the gameplay was great, all in all very fun. But I don't think I would have had near as much fun had the fighters been [b]stick figures[/i]! And I also think the game would have really lost something if there had been no sound.

Judging from all the posts I've read I think a lot of people in this forum are techies and gadget junkies, heheh! Of course we want HD, we want our new TVs to get used, we want to see our investments shine and I don't think there is really anything wrong with that.

That said, I don't think Nintendo is really making a mistake. I think 480p will still look very nice. I've played PC games that looked FAR better running in low res with high settings versus high res with low settings. Plus there are still MANY people with SD sets and by next console cycle (~2010) HD will be dominating and more standardized (HD-DVD, Blu-ray, HDMI, etc).

2nyRiggz
Mar 24, 2006, 11:58 AM
Indeed i must agree Nintendo went the right way with shape and look of this console....matter of fact all the next gen consoles are eye candy.


Bless

maya
Mar 24, 2006, 12:10 PM
I can see Nintendo releasing a "Revolution HD" down the road when some HD optical Discs are released to the mass public. ;) :D

Abulia
Mar 24, 2006, 12:25 PM
To those who think HD its the wave of the future in gaming let me set ya straight.:rolleyes:

I suppose it only was a matter of time before the thread degenerated into this.

raggedjimmi
Mar 24, 2006, 12:25 PM
Indeed i must agree Nintendo went the right way with shape and look of this console....matter of fact all the next gen consoles are eye candy.


Bless

In my wee opinion, the 360 is foul looking. The sucked in look does it no justice. Looks like an old desktop PC, too. The PS3 is just horrid. It's like they took the guy who designed their TV's and Amplifiers and fired him.

raggedjimmi
Mar 24, 2006, 12:37 PM
To those who think HD its the wave of the future in gaming let me set ya straight.

A game can look incredible, beads of sweat pouring down your Madden players, breath seen in cold scrimmages.

But in the end, great graphics HAS NEVER translated to great game.

yes HD is the future, but its waaaay too slow in coming to the realworld market, and we are all antsy for a new gaming console.

the 360 got out first, but its just an XBOX with HD/5.1, nothing new or miraculuous. Games will still be total crap, just look nice.

The Rev. at least is going to make games FUN to play, that look pretty good, but arent HD. To those who think thats a problem in the nextgen consoles, you need to get a clue about what "fun" really is. Last I checked eye candy is only fun to look at, not play with. (unless its a hot chick)

Mostly agree.

I just pop up from time to time and say the TV theory. A TV presents the viewer with realistic images at 480p or even just 480i. Games consoles developers, rather than hiring better artists or animations are relying on HD to bring the viewer a more realistic looking image.

HD does not add realism. better artists do.
HD is a way of saying "well, we're not quite realistic... again! but here, have it in 720 or 1080!"

I've been playing Quake 3 on my newest desktop PC. full 1050*1024 resolution, everything on full (8*AA, 16*Anisotropic, etc). On the older PC its running with the same options but in 1024*768. Seriously, most people would not be able to tell the difference, though folk will disagree here because we are serious computer users, we are in the market to tell the difference.

I had a play on Oblivion just yesterday. Lordy! Choppy framerates galore! How any console user can settle for choppy frame rates is a damn mystery to me. slow or fast, I'm not bothered. But slow down? urgh.
That proves to me that HD in consoles has come too soon.

Oh, and graphics never mean better games. PS2 had arguably the best games (since it sold so well). Ditto for the PS1. The GBA. All of which had the worst graphics in their league. GTA? Windwaker? TETRIS?! No matter the graphics, them games were great.

I am perfectly happy with Nintendo's decision. Ask me again when the Rev 2 is coming out and I probably won't mind HD graphics to suit grander TV's. But now. with my widescreen 32" living room TV and my widescreen 20", just give me 480p. an improvement over the 480i I've been limited to. and give me fast load times, a cheaper console and make sure it runs a world less quieter than the 360 and I will be very happy. Thank you very much.

GFLPraxis
Mar 24, 2006, 02:01 PM
I have to say that I've come to be of the opinion that graphics are less important than artists.

This comes from two experiences. The first is Metroid Prime. The second is Kingdom Hearts.

Kingdom Hearts is BEAUTIFUL. The characters look and feel like cartoons as they move. Amazing animation and art. But when you look at Sora's hair you feel you can count the polygons ;) 99% of the game is so beautifully designed that you *overlook* the polygon count and resolution and even forget about those things.

I'd love the Rev to have HD support though and be willing to pay extra for it. But I'll understand if they don't.

cubist
Mar 24, 2006, 02:23 PM
And another point. We got Need for Speed Most Wanted for our Playstation2 early this week. Graphics are beautiful, but the game is horrible, almost unplayable. Why? Loading. Even in mid-race! I couldn't believe it. We can't stand to play it. We call it Need for Speed Most Loading. Does this occur on the GameCube version? I'm totally disgusted, I can't believe a company would ship such crap.

We're not getting a PS3, we're getting a Revo - a black one.

Haoshiro
Mar 24, 2006, 02:25 PM
I played the Xbox version and did not have that problem.

Still, the game was returned in exchange for Burnout Revenge which was all around much more fun (albeit much more arcade-style).

raggedjimmi
Mar 24, 2006, 02:43 PM
I played the Xbox version and did not have that problem.

Still, the game was returned in exchange for Burnout Revenge which was all around much more fun (albeit much more arcade-style).

that's interesting. You make it sound like Arcade games shouldn't be fun?

I dunno. that comment just stuck out in my mind.

Haoshiro
Mar 24, 2006, 02:52 PM
that's interesting. You make it sound like Arcade games shouldn't be fun?

I dunno. that comment just stuck out in my mind.

That's definitely not what I was suggesting.

Because I thought my comment could be taken as suggesting Burnout Revenge over NFS:MW I felt a need to note that the games aren't really the same style. So people reading my comment that prefer more sim-style racers would understand that games weren't really of the same type.

That's all. :)

DISCOMUNICATION
Apr 1, 2006, 11:05 PM
http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/images/revzelda.jpg

7on
Apr 1, 2006, 11:56 PM
[IMG]http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/images/revzelda.jpg[/IG]

that soooo wants me to buy windwaker

GFLPraxis
Apr 2, 2006, 12:36 AM
They've got it running on an emulator and so obviously Photoshopped the Rev in.

Prom1
Apr 2, 2006, 01:04 AM
Then wont games look grainy on HDTV's as does analog cable?!

Does the Gameboy games using Gameboy player & GNC disc look grainy on the GameCube? No ... crystal clear. Does your older games for Super Nintendo or even N64 look grainy when going from your 24" set to the 52" LCD DLP TV? No, remember engineers have had many years with re-imaging size & extrapolation & progressive image display before our time. mind you, you wont see those old Nintendo games in Widescreen with black bars on the top/bottom of the screen though, just fullscreen, or black bars on the left/right side.

I disagree with the graphics argument thus far. Yes graphics are a part of a great game but their INFLUENCE or great IMPORTANCE to a great game depends on the genre/categorie .... ie First-Person-shooter needs good graphics. (Metroid Prime 2 Echos as an example for the GCN). however its the story line, the plot and "fun" and imersiveness of a game that truely makes it great. Metroid ALL gameboy versions & Metroid Prime Hunters for the DS is nowhere close to the Ghost Recon graphics on PSP; but its selling & ppl enjoy it non the less.

Nintendo has proven this time & time again.

GameBoy Original/Classic was up against the Sega color system when it was in black & white with less resolution & smaller screen. you cannot say battery life or price alone was a factor back in 1987 (am I right on this year?) Because it was barely $30 Canadian cheaper than that GameGear system.

Less than 2yrs later with Color GameBoy, it was the library of FUN games that you could play OVER & OVER again .... and still have fun.


I'll bet anyone that loves playing games, on ANY of their favorite system to pass the chance of playing Super Mario Bros ANY version if you put a contest /of whom is better or quicker at a higher score; 7/10 ppl I'm guestimating will BITE!;) :D