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MacRumors
Jan 31, 2003, 01:25 PM
RailHeadDesign (http://www.railheaddesign.com/) reports that OS X 10.2.4 is still coming:


Well, so much for having OS X 10.2.4 by dinner yesterday! Instead, Apple made another seed available which *should* go Golden Master. The build is at 6l20 now, so we?ll just have to keep waiting ? but not for too much longer?


pgwalsh
Jan 31, 2003, 01:29 PM
Well we now wait for this and iLife. Which is supposed to be available today? Maybe just the retail version is available today.
Tom800
Jan 31, 2003, 01:42 PM
Where the hell is iLife? The 31st has finished in many countries! Anyone know what's coming in 10.2.4? What is there to update save interface smoothing over?

And once again, on the issue of delays, where the hell is AAC?!?!?!?
hvfsl
Jan 31, 2003, 01:46 PM
The download version of iLife (iPhoto2 and iMovie 3) will not be avaliable until wednesday at the earest because Apple wants as many people as possible to go out and buy it. iLife is out now, but just to buy.

Also Mac OS X 10.2.4 should be out on Wednesday when the new iMacs/iBooks are meant to be released.
hvfsl
Jan 31, 2003, 01:48 PM
The Mac OS X update includes a lot of speed improvements and bug fixes, but no real new features. The most notiable thing about the update is that it includes updated graphics drivers, which should improve graphics performance a bit.
DakotaGuy
Jan 31, 2003, 01:50 PM
I would imagine that possibly today is only the date you can actually go out and buy iLife. It will probably be a couple of weeks until you can download it for free. They want to actually sell some copies.

They might be having some problems with 10.2.4. I could see it delayed a week or two...no big deal really...
tosmann
Jan 31, 2003, 01:55 PM
Why should Apple assume that everybody wants the whole package ? I for one only want the iMovie part, and many posters in this forum seem to want only the iPhoto part.

Also, only a few of the whole have Apple kosher DVD burners...

And the 31st of Jan ends in 4 hrs 5 minutes or so ( GMT which is the starting point for everything ;) )
rugby
Jan 31, 2003, 01:59 PM
Just so you know, iDVD works with 3rd party dvd burners. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com
funkywhat2
Jan 31, 2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by tosmann
Why should Apple assume that everybody wants the whole package ? I for one only want the iMovie part, and many posters in this forum seem to want only the iPhoto part.

Also, only a few of the whole have Apple kosher DVD burners...

And the 31st of Jan ends in 4 hrs 5 minutes or so ( GMT which is the starting point for everything ;) )

I thought that Steve bragged that over half of iMac sales were SuperDrive models. If that carries over to any other product lines, then their sales are pretty strong, making iDVD worth it for many.
zoetropeuk
Jan 31, 2003, 02:00 PM
If it wasn't going to be available today for download then why on earth would Apple send out an email saying otherwise. I love Apple products but the continued delays in releases and shipments is becoming annoying.
richard5mith
Jan 31, 2003, 02:01 PM
Apple have already said they'd be available for download today, there should be no waiting two weeks for them.

The $49 is really only for iDVD, the other three are just in the box for the people who are on slow connections and can't download them.

Remember Apple are GMT-8, so it's only midday for them. Plenty time yet.
wheezl
Jan 31, 2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by richard5mith
Apple have already said they'd be available for download today, there should be no waiting two weeks for them.

The $49 is really only for iDVD, the other three are just in the box for the people who are on slow connections and can't download them.

Remember Apple are GMT-8, so it's only midday for them. Plenty time yet.



iMovie and iPhoto are on software update now.
Soma_Addict
Jan 31, 2003, 02:07 PM
iPhoto 2 is available for download through software update right now.
puffmarvin
Jan 31, 2003, 02:07 PM
i love how people can complain about how the downloads arent available yet... dont you remember that these are FREE upgrades?! i have been using the ilife suite for about a week now and its amazing. it will be well worth the wait.

cheers.:p
Soma_Addict
Jan 31, 2003, 02:09 PM
oh, and so is iMovie 3.0.1, i dont know if that is a new one or not. i do not like iMovie that much. but it is an 83 meg download.
zedwards
Jan 31, 2003, 02:11 PM
Quit your whining and click the software update button!! :P
artistry
Jan 31, 2003, 02:12 PM
Interesting that iMovie 3 has already been updated!
Bear
Jan 31, 2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by rugby
Just so you know, iDVD works with 3rd party dvd burners. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com
The Pioneer DVR-105 is the same drive Apple uses. This only means that iDVD can't tell the difference between an Apple supplied Superdrive and a Pioneer DVR-104 or DVR-105.

Other company DVD burners may not work with iDVD 3. This remains to be tested.
keltorsori
Jan 31, 2003, 02:15 PM
The components have been available for download for most of the day. There is a small link on each of the product pages on the right hand side to "download now"

http://www.apple.com/iphoto/download/
http://www.apple.com/imovie/download/
Hemingray
Jan 31, 2003, 02:17 PM
Here I was expecting to read about 10.2.4 discussion, and I find myself downloading iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3. Thanks guys! :p No, seriously, thanks. :D
BillGates
Jan 31, 2003, 02:19 PM
They are now available in software update
pgwalsh
Jan 31, 2003, 02:47 PM
iMovie is 84.5 MB download.
iPhoto is 33.3 MB download.
Wow, that's a lot to download. Thank god I have broadband.
yzedf
Jan 31, 2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by pgwalsh
iMovie is 84.5 MB download.
iPhoto is 33.3 MB download.
Wow, that's a lot to download. Thank god I have broadband.

YEAH... cable modems rule!!!

Now I just have to get home...
nicmac
Jan 31, 2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
The download version of iLife (iPhoto2 and iMovie 3) will not be avaliable until wednesday at the earest because Apple wants as many people as possible to go out and buy it. iLife is out now, but just to buy.

Also Mac OS X 10.2.4 should be out on Wednesday when the new iMacs/iBooks are meant to be released.

Hey hvfsl.......
Do you ever get tired of being right?
NanoDoc
Jan 31, 2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Abercrombieboy
I would imagine that possibly today is only the date you can actually go out and buy iLife. It will probably be a couple of weeks until you can download it for free. They want to actually sell some copies.

They might be having some problems with 10.2.4. I could see it delayed a week or two...no big deal really...

Did anyone of you see the previous articles about people receiving word from Apple that the downloads would be available today?

I just downloaded them myself.

CMH
MacKid
Jan 31, 2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by pgwalsh
Well we now wait for this and iLife. Which is supposed to be available today? Maybe just the retail version is available today.

You can download it.
MrMacMan
Jan 31, 2003, 08:16 PM
So what is new in 10.2.4 ?

Some fixes? ATI drivers working properly?

(BTW hemigray your stats for folding, the link is wrong... http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/teampage?q=3446 )
Rocketman
Jan 31, 2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Macrumors
RailHeadDesign (http://www.railheaddesign.com/) reports that OS X 10.2.4 are still coming:



One thing that would be really interesting is a table by product of announce and first receive dates and a similar entry for OS's so we can infer things about future release dates by merely filling in the blanks. It os only sensible Apple wants to release an OS update for "new products" to account for new hardware features.

Rocketman
Sol
Jan 31, 2003, 11:55 PM
Well, to everyone who believed that iPhoto 2.0 & iMovie 3 would not be downloadable until Wednesday because Apple wants people to buy iLife... guys, stick to conspiracy theories for the X-files. Apple is not trying to rip you off with free downloads. Have some faith in the world.

Now, with the iLife package working with OS X.2.3 I am wondering why they delayed it for a week. I mean, if iLife needed OS X.2.4 and that was made available in the last week I would understand that. I guess something is going on behind the scenes that no rumour site knows about.

Anyway, I hope the OS update is not delayed by too many weeks (days hopefully) and that iTunes gets the MP4 update that we all wish it had already.
yosoyjay
Feb 1, 2003, 12:35 AM
No ideas of what x.4 contains?

I hope that it speeds up iPhoto2 somehow because it's just too slow. Maybe the waiting for iPhoto will make me go out and get more ram...
Jimong5
Feb 1, 2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
ATI drivers working properly?

ATI has Radeon 9000 drivers for DL, and the 9000 ME is for sale for $169 at the ATI store
springscansing
Feb 1, 2003, 07:08 AM
You know, for a bunch of mac fanatics, you are all really quick to bash apple.

Yeesh.
pgwalsh
Feb 1, 2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by springscansing
You know, for a bunch of mac fanatics, you are all really quick to bash apple.

Yeesh. We love them so much we should be Apple's harshest crititcs.
Hemingray
Feb 1, 2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
(BTW hemigray your stats for folding, the link is wrong... http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/teampage?q=3446 )

They must have changed it, thanks for the heads-up. I checked my old link and it still works, so ".detailed" is still in use as well.
NicoMan
Feb 2, 2003, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Sol
Now, with the iLife package working with OS X.2.3 I am wondering why they delayed it for a week. I mean, if iLife needed OS X.2.4 and that was made available in the last week I would understand that. I guess something is going on behind the scenes that no rumour site knows about.

I think the delay to iLife had nothing to do with 10.2.4. Note that the version of iMovie is 3.0.1, so it might be because Apple found a last minute bug on their Gold Master 3.0.0 that they delayed it...

NicoMan
chabig
Feb 2, 2003, 08:35 AM
One fix I'm hoping for in 10.2.4 is for the bug in 10.2.3 that causes Powerbook and iBooks to kernel panic on logout.