Moussaoui Says He Was Part of a Plot to Attack the White House

[zimv20]

ny times (http://nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Moussaoui.html?hp&ex=1143522000&en=e4d42c8afe4a3c04&ei=5094&partner=homepage)


ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.

Moussaoui's testimony on his own behalf stunned the courtroom. His account was in stark contrast to his previous statements in which he said the White House attack was to come later if the United States refused to release a radical Egyptian sheik imprisoned on earlier terrorist convictions.

On Dec. 22, 2001, Reid was subdued by passengers when he attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe aboard American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami. There were 197 people on board. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the World Trade Center attack was coming and that he lied to investigators when arrested in August 2001 because he wanted it to happen.

''You lied because you wanted to conceal that you were a member of al-Qaida?'' prosecutor Rob Spencer asked.

''That's correct,'' Moussaoui said.

Spencer: ''You lied so the plan could go forward?''

Moussaoui: ''That's correct.''

The exchange was key to the government's case that the attacks might have been averted if Moussaoui had been more cooperative following his arrest.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the attacks were coming some time after August 2001 and bought a radio so he could hear them unfold.

Specifically, he said he knew the World Trade Center was going to be attacked, but asserted he was not part of that plot and didn't know the details.

(more)

why the sudden admission, i wonder.


Had Moussaoui confessed, the FBI could have pursued leads that would have led them to most of the hijackers, government witnesses have testified.

To win the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove that Moussaoui's actions -- specifically, his lies -- were directly responsible for at least one death on Sept. 11.

If they fail, Moussaoui would get life in prison.
does he want the death penalty?

[Lyle]

why the sudden admission, i wonder... does he want the death penalty?Perhaps he is setting himself up to die as a martyr? He may see that as more honorable than spending the rest of his life in prison.

[Airforce]

What a moron. The guy needs to be dead and buried, ASAP.

[iPhil]

What a moron. The guy needs to be dead and buried, ASAP.


That won't happen it'll be 20yrs + before he's dead .. it's called appeals process:( :eek:

[pseudobrit]

What a moron. The guy needs to be dead and buried, ASAP.

Beats rotting in prison. I'm sure he'd thank you.

[solvs]

Then where was that plane that came down over PA headed?

[skunk]

Then where was that plane that came down over PA headed?I agree, the whole thing stinks. It sounds like the guy is a fantasist. All the other planes had five or more hijackers on them, so why was this one supposed to have only two? Or have I missed something? If people weren't so keen on revenge, this guy would be getting psychiatric help.

[zimv20]

Then where was that plane that came down over PA headed?
well-kept secret: the plane hit its target. UBL hates pennsylvanian farmland.

[skunk]

well-kept secret: the plane hit its target. UBL hates pennsylvanian farmland.They were aiming for the Amish.

[solvs]

They were aiming for the Amish.
Doubtful. Remember, the Amish and the Quakers (as well as some Catholic organizations) were some of the first to protest the war. One of the reasons they were investigated by the NSA (without warrants BTW) and accused of aiding terrorists.

But I wasn't being facetious. I'm serious. What was that plane aiming for? And why/how was it taken down all the way out there, yet none of the others were? I'm really asking these questions, not making a point.

[skunk]

But I wasn't being facetious. I'm serious. What was that plane aiming for? And why/how was it taken down all the way out there, yet none of the others were? I'm really asking these questions, not making a point.Because by the time it came down many of the passengers and crew knew what had already happened to the WTC?

[solvs]

Because by the time it came down many of the passengers and crew knew what had already happened to the WTC?
Doesn't really answer the question. And raises others.

[skunk]

Doesn't really answer the question. And raises others.Well, it could answer the last one.

[solvs]

Well, it could answer the last one.
Kinda. But not really. I mean, think about it. Not saying there's a conspiracy, just that some things don't make sense.

[XNine]

Kinda. But not really. I mean, think about it. Not saying there's a conspiracy, just that some things don't make sense.

Okay Charlie, I know you're the most under-appreciated of the Sheen family, but let's not take this too far. :D

No, the plane was taken down by the passenger's crew. If I remember correctly, there was a cell phone call out of the plane made by one of the passengers to her husband talking about the take-over... But I could be wrong.

Anyway, I think it WAS headed for the whitehouse, or FBI Head Quarets...or FBI Tails Quarters....

[solvs]

I'm not THAT bad (and I don't believe it was a conspiracy either :p badump bump), and I know about the passengers taking it down. My question is, if it wasn't headed for the White House, where was it headed? And if it was, why was it all the way out in PA? Didn't it come from Newark?

I'm sure I'm missing something, and I didn't say the gov planned it, just a lot of things that don't make sense.

[zimv20]

If I remember correctly, there was a cell phone call
methinks one wouldn't get reception at such an altitude. but there are those phones installed in the seats.

[tristan]

The plane was heading for DC, most likely the Capitol building. It was in the process of turning around. I saw a special on NatGeo.

[angelneo]

I think that he shouldn't be send to the death row. He should be made to stay alive to see how the world evolved 20, 30 years later.

[Blue Velvet]

Moussaoui is spared death penalty

Al-Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui is to face life in jail, rather than execution, for his role in the 9/11 attacks, a US jury has decided.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4943196.stm


Personally, I'm against the death penalty, so from my perspective this is the right decision.

[eva01]

Personally, I'm against the death penalty, so from my perspective this is the right decision.


I agree, thou who wants to take bets on how long before he is killed in prison?

[Blue Velvet]

I agree, thou who wants to take bets on how long before he is killed in prison?

I would imagine he'll be in some form of solitary confinement for the rest of his days...

[XNine]

THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, I'm not one to be against the death penalty. I feel extreme actions deserve extreme punishment. But the fact that this guy is going to be holding the pockets and taking a hard pounding a few times a day from some mean inmates makes me real happy.

He wanted to die a martyr, and now he's going to have all of his Muslim-extremist beliefs defiled, every day, for the rest of his life. I love it. In his eyes, now, Alah will not allow him into heaven.

[IJ Reilly]

Whatever. I think that Moussaoui actually knew squat about the planning for 9-11. If he doesn't confess to a whole lot of things he probably wasn't even involved with, the government gets him for nothing of any consequence. I suspect the jurors saw through his act and decided not to make him a martyr to a cause that apparently didn't even want anything to do with him. An execution would have been a travesty. The trial was bad enough.

[zimv20]

I think that Moussaoui actually knew squat about the planning for 9-11.
even if he was supposed to be on one of the planes, isn't it the case that only one person on each plane actually knew the plot beforehand, and the others were told only on that day?

[IJ Reilly]

even if he was supposed to be on one of the planes, isn't it the case that only one person on each plane actually knew the plot beforehand, and the others were told only on that day?

Beats me. I'm referring to the cockamamie story Moussaoui told in court about how he and Richard Reed were supposed to hijack another airplane. As I recall, there was no evidence to suggest that Reed was involved in any such plot. Probably the only thing they have in common is that both of them are third-string wannabe terrorists.

[XNine]

Beats me. I'm referring to the cockamamie story Moussaoui told in court about how he and Richard Reed were supposed to hijack another airplane. As I recall, there was no evidence to suggest that Reed was involved in any such plot. Probably the only thing they have in common is that both of them are third-string wannabe terrorists.

Agreed. And I also think he was trying to be a martyr. But he WAS arrested for a reason. I think he was lying through his teeth to have the blessing of those in the middle east. I'm sure they were all like "who the **** is this guy?"

Zim: I believe you're half right. I think only one person of the CELL knows the plot, and none of the cells know each other. The leader of the cell is to tell his minions what's going on the day of the plan. And thus all of the cells come together.

This way, should any member of the cell be nabbed, they can't implicate anyone else in other cells, nor do they know about any plans. Pretty crafty bastards.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Agreed. And I also think he was trying to be a martyr. But he WAS arrested for a reason. I think he was lying through his teeth to have the blessing of those in the middle east. I'm sure they were all like "who the **** is this guy?"

Zim: I believe you're half right. I think only one person of the CELL knows the plot, and none of the cells know each other. The leader of the cell is to tell his minions what's going on the day of the plan. And thus all of the cells come together.

This way, should any member of the cell be nabbed, they can't implicate anyone else in other cells, nor do they know about any plans. Pretty crafty bastards.Bastards is right, or should we say murdering bastards.

[Applespider]

Add me to the group who reckon he knew squat about what was happening.

I do also believe that even if he did, the jury made the right call in terms of imprisonment rather than death. I don't believe in the death penalty since I don't believe in the afterlife and the idea of eternal damnation for your sins. so seems quite logical to me that if a guy thinks dying a martyr will get him a good time in the afterlife, that cutting him out for it has to be the sensible option.

[IJ Reilly]

Agreed. And I also think he was trying to be a martyr. But he WAS arrested for a reason. I think he was lying through his teeth to have the blessing of those in the middle east. I'm sure they were all like "who the **** is this guy?"

He was arrested for a reason, but when it comes down to it, the government's case was weak, and he might have escaped conviction entirely if not for his weird courtroom confessions. The penalty phase was a joke, given that the evidence against Moussaoui was almost entirely concocted by Moussaoui himself, and fundamentally incredible.

[Thomas Veil]

I'm glad he's getting life in prison, myself, if only because the moron wanted death, wanted to be a martyr, so in this way we can cheat him out of his Great Big Wish.

Unfortunately, there will be no gang-rapes of the Big M. The news has been saying that he will be in solitary 23 hours a day, with one hour out for exercise. I guess that's pretty bad punishment on its own -- I think it'd drive me nuts -- but I really would have liked to have seen Moussaoui introduced to the joys of sodomy. :D

[XNine]

I'm glad he's getting life in prison, myself, if only because the moron wanted death, wanted to be a martyr, so in this way we can cheat him out of his Great Big Wish.

Unfortunately, there will be no gang-rapes of the Big M. The news has been saying that he will be in solitary 23 hours a day, with one hour out for exercise. I guess that's pretty bad punishment on its own -- I think it'd drive me nuts -- but I really would have liked to have seen Moussaoui introduced to the joys of sodomy. :D

Do you really think the guards are not going to turn their backs on one of the other inmates who comes through to mop the floors, only to rape this guy? I think he's in for a world of hurt.

Either way, what's done is done. Life goes on and another (wannabe) martyr doesn't get his way.

[solvs]

I'm glad this thread has remained as civil as it has. I agree that he shouldn't be made a martyr, and can't say I'm sure I believe his story one way or the other, but that's not why I agree with the verdict. We could have had vengeance. We could have killed him for what he (supposedly) did. But we spared him. Part of me feels a little good about that. He'll still be punished, not that there is any punishment severe enough, but we will show him the mercy they did not (minus the ass-rapings).

This is a good day for America... too bad half of us (according to recent polls) don't think so.

[mactastic]

...but I really would have liked to have seen Moussaoui introduced to the joys of sodomy. :D
A life sentence to a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison?

Seriously though, the lack of concern for anal rape is kind of disturbing amongst the law-and-order types.

[XNine]

A life sentence to a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison?

Man, I was gonna say that, but didn't know if anyone would get the reference. Maybe he'll see some of the other inmates "OH" faces. :D

I'm still not sure, I'll have to read up more on the whole trial and the evidence and what was said to really determine if he knew anything at all, or was just a wannabe martyr.

[Thomas Veil]

A life sentence to a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison?

Seriously though, the lack of concern for anal rape is kind of disturbing amongst the law-and-order types.Normally it is for me too. But I have a hard time feeling sorry for this guy.

It's ironic, I guess, that those who commit really huge crimes end up in solitary in supermax prisons, where the chances of that kind of rape are (AFAIK) low to nil. And if Moussaoui were in with other prisoners, you know what they'd do to him? You know how even other prisoners are especially brutal to child molesters, whom they consider the scum of the scum? Think what they'd do to a terrorist.

[Thomas Veil]

SUDDEN THOUGHT:

You know what'd be a sweet addition to Moussaoui's life in solitary confinement?

A speaker playing Christian music 24 hours a day in his cell. :D

[IJ Reilly]

SUDDEN THOUGHT:

You know what'd be a sweet addition to Moussaoui's life in solitary confinement?

A speaker playing Christian music 24 hours a day in his cell. :D

What good would that do? He's already as mad as a hoot owl.

[XNine]

Great, they're bringing the douchebag to my home state.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/04/moussaoui.verdict/index.html

I find his statements "YOU ARE THE ARMY OF SATAN" pretty funny. What a dumb ****. Civilians don't carry guns and wage war on Muslim nations. No wonder these people (re: extremists) are screwed up. They think that anyone is fair game, and there's no chivalry to their fighting.

[skunk]

Civilians don't carry guns and wage war on Muslim nations. No wonder these people (re: extremists) are screwed up. They think that anyone is fair game, and there's no chivalry to their fighting.Don't you think civilians in the US most certainly would carry guns, given the choice, if they were under a lawless occupation, and hit anyone they could? And, as for "chivalry", where is the chivalry in bombing the crap out of a city with a B52, using WP munitions on a civilian population, and mistreating prisoners on a routine basis?

[Thomas Veil]

Don't you think civilians in the US most certainly would carry guns, given the choice, if they were under a lawless occupation, and hit anyone they could? And, as for "chivalry", where is the chivalry in bombing the crap out of a city with a B52, using WP munitions on a civilian population, and mistreating prisoners on a routine basis?Why do you hate America? ;)

[freeny]

SUDDEN THOUGHT:

You know what'd be a sweet addition to Moussaoui's life in solitary confinement?

A speaker playing Christian music 24 hours a day in his cell. :D
Apparently from what I heard on the news this morning is there will likely be a 12" black and white tv playing endless anger management videos.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Great, they're bringing the douchebag to my home state.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/04/moussaoui.verdict/index.html

I find his statements "YOU ARE THE ARMY OF SATAN" pretty funny. What a dumb ****. Civilians don't carry guns and wage war on Muslim nations. No wonder these people (re: extremists) are screwed up. They think that anyone is fair game, and there's no chivalry to their fighting.You are right, these are cowards who go after innocent civilians just going on with life. Fact is Islam promotes Jihad and all that infidel crap, it should be an outlawed cult in my view. They attacked us not the other way around as Skunk would like us to think. Spray his stinking human carcass with bacon grease and feed him to the dogs.

[skunk]

Why do you hate America? ;)Because it's there.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Because it's there.Still upset about our Boston Tea Party no doubt and then to have to rely on Americans for WWII must have really really hurt.:D

[skunk]

Still upset about our Boston Tea Party no doubt and then to have to rely on Americans for WWII must have really really hurt.:DYour social get-togethers are no concern of mine. As for WW2, let's keep that for the Mythology Thread...

[Dont Hurt Me]

Your social get-togethers are no concern of mine. As for WW2, let's keep that for the Mythology Thread...If I told you I drive a MGB would that help?

[skunk]

If I told you I drive a MGB would that help?Not really, but I sympathize.:)

[Dont Hurt Me]

You shouldnt, I love my little car:) 36,000 miles and i put 25,000 on it. Built stronger then any new car by a mile.:) Anyways to stay on topic Moussaoui is getting it very easy, they need to throw him in a regular prison.

[solvs]

Fact is Islam promotes Jihad and all that infidel crap, it should be an outlawed cult in my view.
Islam is a peaceful religion. The fact that some nuts are twisting it to fit their agendas doesn't change that. Terrorist is to Islam as Nazism is to Christianity. There, you just made me invoke that thing where someone mentions Nazis and the thread is officially over.

At least you didn't call for his head on a pike, because there are others out there who are, and like I said above, I don't see how that would make us any different if we went down that road.

[XNine]

You are right, these are cowards who go after innocent civilians just going on with life. Fact is Islam promotes Jihad and all that infidel crap, it should be an outlawed cult in my view. They attacked us not the other way around as Skunk would like us to think. Spray his stinking human carcass with bacon grease and feed him to the dogs.

I don't think that's all there is to Islam. While part of me wishes that religion were abolished as a whole, there are actually relgiions out there where people believe in peace, true peace. Taking the right for religion away, unfortuantely falls under totalitarian rule.

I think the leaders of the extremists know they're preaching ********. I think they know that these suicide bombers are just throw-away soldiers who have no other use. So they hype them up on the 7 virgins in heaven, infadels, and martyrdom talk to get these people to take out as many people as they can as a fear tactic.

As for chivalry: At least the US army wears military uniforms. They comply with the rules of war which is wearing military uniforms and fighting as such. Even the Nazi's conformed more to this than these extremists do.

[skunk]

I think the leaders of the extremists know they're preaching ********. I think they know that these suicide bombers are just throw-away soldiers who have no other use. So they hype them up on the 7 virgins in heaven, infadels, and martyrdom talk to get these people to take out as many people as they can as a fear tactic.What could be more noble than dying in the defence of your people and your religious beliefs?

As for chivalry: At least the US army wears military uniforms. They comply with the rules of war which is wearing military uniforms and fighting as such. Even the Nazi's conformed more to this than these extremists do.The rules of war extend beyond the wearing of uniforms. Do you think slaughter becomes less indiscriminate because a man in uniform is perpetrating it?

[xsedrinam]

A Brief Synopsis of the Thread

IF EXECUTED(martyr) he gets: IF GIVEN LIFE(in prison)he gets

1 – 72 Black eyed virgins 1 – Black & blue from 72 positions of abuse
2 – A free ticket to heaven 2 – A free ticket to hell on earth
3 – Free pass to heaven for family 3 – Free visitation rights for family
4 – Allah saying “well done”. 4 – A chef who knows only one way to cook

Which sentence seems more harsh?

[XNine]

What could be more noble than dying in the defence of your people and your religious beliefs?

Realizing that we're all human and we all need a little space on this planet. That just because you have to deal with going down on a woman who's been sewn up her whole life on the night of your wedding is no reason to be pissed at others, strap on a bomb, and go kill people at a bus stop.

The rules of war extend beyond the wearing of uniforms. Do you think slaughter becomes less indiscriminate because a man in uniform is perpetrating it?

I think indiscriminate slaughter is wrong no matter who's doing it. But at least have the balls to stand up and show who you are fighting for.

Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been those in the US military who have slaughtered indiscriminantly, raped, or tortured. But that isn't the standard, nor the norm. It is for these extremists. They're taught that it's okay to do this. In all honesty, they're like little children with an inferiority complex.

[skunk]

Realizing that we're all human and we all need a little space on this planet. That just because you have to deal with going down on a woman who's been sewn up her whole life on the night of your wedding is no reason to be pissed at others, strap on a bomb, and go kill people at a bus stop.Where the hell did that come from?

I think indiscriminate slaughter is wrong no matter who's doing it. But at least have the balls to stand up and show who you are fighting for.Who are you fighting for?

Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been those in the US military who have slaughtered indiscriminantly, raped, or tortured. But that isn't the standard, nor the norm.Does the man whose family has just been slaughtered, raped or tortured care if it's "the norm"?

It is for these extremists. They're taught that it's okay to do this. In all honesty, they're like little children with an inferiority complex.And your soldiers are taught that it's okay to invade and occupy another country, kill 30-100,000 people, wreck the entire infrastructure and flatten whole neighbourhoods for an unspoken agenda and a tissue of lies. What kind of complex does that represent?

[mactastic]

Civilians don't carry guns and wage war on Muslim nations.
Oh (http://www.blackwaterusa.com/) yes (http://www.aegisworld.com/) they (http://caci.com/) do. (http://www.titan.com/home.html)

[XNine]

Who are you fighting for?
I'm not fighting at all. Who are YOU fighting for? Why so defensive?

Does the man whose family has just been slaughtered, raped or tortured care if it's "the norm"? Probably not, but what about those who do it in the name of Islam? There are tons of soldiers in Iraq right now that hate being there, wish they never went, and hate Bushco for what it's done. They have to do what they are ordered to. They aren't taught from when they are children that anything outside of Islam is of infadel descent and must be destroyed, like these extremists are.


And your soldiers are taught that it's okay to invade and occupy another country, kill 30-100,000 people, wreck the entire infrastructure and flatten whole neighbourhoods for an unspoken agenda and a tissue of lies. What kind of complex does that represent? No, they aren't taught that. In fact they were manipulated by a man who has complete control over them to continue daddy's war for oil.

I think you're extremely anti-american. Why, not sure. Maybe you don't get that most of us don't agree with what Bushco is doing. Either way, England has had its fair share of deluded rulers and still does. But apparently the English are better than the Americans. :rolleyes:

[skunk]

I think you're extremely anti-american. Why, not sure. Maybe you don't get that most of us don't agree with what Bushco is doing. Either way, England has had its fair share of deluded rulers and still does. But apparently the English are better than the Americans. :rolleyes:I'm not even slightly anti-American. What does that mean anyway? I'm certainly anti-Bush and anti-Blair, both of whom, together with Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Cheney, Reid, Hoon, Clarke and Straw, constitute a true Axis of Evil.

[mactastic]

I'm not even slightly anti-American. What does that mean anyway? I'm certainly anti-Bush and anti-Blair, both of whom, together with Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Cheney, Reid, Hoon, Clarke and Straw, constitute a true Axis of Evil.
We should refer to you as Auntie American from now on... :p

[zimv20]

A Brief Synopsis of the Thread

IF EXECUTED(martyr) he gets: IF GIVEN LIFE(in prison)he gets

1 – 72 Black eyed virgins 1 – Black & blue from 72 positions of abuse
2 – A free ticket to heaven 2 – A free ticket to hell on earth
3 – Free pass to heaven for family 3 – Free visitation rights for family
4 – Allah saying “well done”. 4 – A chef who knows only one way to cook

Which sentence seems more harsh?
did you make that up?

[zimv20]

36,000 miles and i put 25,000 on it.
is it used or is the odometer that far off? :-)

[Dont Hurt Me]

is it used or is the odometer that far off? :-)Bought it with 11,000 on it and it was garaged by some Rolls Royce owning dude in Denver who never drove it. Its to cold for a MGB in Denver. Anyways Yanking off that Zenith stromberg paperweight and putting in a Weber made all the difference. It looked brand new when i bought it 10 years ago. Still looks great and its now going UP in value.:)

[xsedrinam]

did you make that up?
That bad, eh?

[zimv20]

That bad, eh?
not at all, i liked it.

[Mike Teezie]

As for chivalry: At least the US army wears military uniforms. They comply with the rules of war which is wearing military uniforms and fighting as such. Even the Nazi's conformed more to this than these extremists do.

Not to split hairs here Onizuka - but our special forces (SF, Delta, SEALS, Force Recon) don't wear any uniforms, combat situation or no. It's strict native garb, speaking in local dialects, blending in to the max.

They play as dirty as possible, make no mistake about it.

[Thomas Veil]

Ain't this the final kick in the pants? :rolleyes:

Moussaoui Asks to Withdraw Guilty Plea
By DAVID STOUT

WASHINGTON, May 8 — Zacarias Moussaoui added another bizarre chapter to his own case today when he asked to withdraw his guilty plea to terrorism-related charges, saying he is now convinced he can get a fair trial "even with Americans as jurors."

Just five days after a jury imposed a life sentence on him for concealing his knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Moussaoui told Federal Judge Leonie M. Brinkema that he claimed to be a member of the plot "even though I knew that was a complete fabrication."

Mr. Moussaoui told Judge Brinkema, in what appeared to be a futile motion to withdraw his plea, that he had not trusted the American legal system because he was not assigned a Muslim lawyer, and that his days in solitary confinement had provoked him to fight that system.

The jurors' decision to spare his life made him look at his situation anew, Mr. Moussaoui said. He said he would welcome a trial where he could show he was not part of the 9/11 plot "because I now see that it is possible that I can receive a fair trial even with Americans as jurors."Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/08/us/08cnd-moussaoui.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print)

Now he "gets religion". Now he understands Americans and wants sympathy from them.

What a waste of space this guy is. :rolleyes:

[XNine]

Ain't this the final kick in the pants? :rolleyes:

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/08/us/08cnd-moussaoui.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print)

Now he "gets religion". Now he understands Americans and wants sympathy from them.

What a waste of space this guy is. :rolleyes:

LMFAO Ooooooh my God. That's some good **** right there. THAT, is frame worthy.

He finally realized he was gonna get it in his ass for the the rest of his life and realized, "Uh oh, what did I just do?!" LMFAO. Moron. I say just toss him in, and melt the key into a license plate.

[pseudobrit]

Ain't this the final kick in the pants? :rolleyes:

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/08/us/08cnd-moussaoui.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print)

Now he "gets religion". Now he understands Americans and wants sympathy from them.

What a waste of space this guy is. :rolleyes:

Perhaps I'm the only one disappointed that truth and justice aren't served by what happened in the Moussaoui case.

[nbs2]

Perhaps I'm the only one disappointed that truth and justice aren't served by what happened in the Moussaoui case.
:confused:

[Thomas Veil]

:confused:Perhaps he just means that Moussaoui should be put to death, period.

[blackfox]

Perhaps he just means that Moussaoui should be put to death, period.
Funny, I took it to mean that this whole deal with Moussaoui is a joke.

I mean, there is little to connect the guy with the 9/11 plot, except that he did some flight training and had various circumstantial evidence pertaining to civilian passenger aircraft and to a possible European Al qaeda cell.

If he hadn't confessed, the prosecution would've had a hard time tying him to anything - even as it went, 3 jurors thought he had nothing to do with 9/11 and another 3 thought his involvement was minimal.

I really don't understand this guy - or his motivations. His decisions during the trial were bizarre. Nevertheless, he hardly seems a terrorist mastermind - and his links to any outright illegal actions are tenuous.

Yet, the US had a guy to publicly prosecute - and so he goes to jail for life.

Let me be clear, I don't think Moussaoui necessarily deserved to walk, but the indictment and trial hardly look like an exercise in real Justice.

At least to me.

[mactastic]

I read this yesterday and just couldn't believe it. Hello! Didn't you listen when both the judge and his lawyers were telling him that his decision would be final once he was sentenced. No backsies. No do-overs. So unless he can convince the court that he didn't have the capacity to make those kinds of decisions at the time he made them, he's done. Game over man.

You got your chance to talk **** to America in public, you got to insult the 9/11 families, you got to insult Christianity, you got to insult the court itself. Now you get to go to Colorado and no one outside of a few prison guards will ever have to hear from you again.

He didn't get his shot at Martyrdom, the one thing he truly wanted.

[CubaTBird]

he has a mother... what does she think of all this?