New 20GB, 30GB and 40GB Toshiba Drive Specs [Archive]

MacRumors

Feb 3, 2003, 03:21 AM

Toshiba's FTP site (ftp://info:@ftp.toshiba.com//sdd/HDD_Documentation/1.8_inch_HDDs/MK4004GAH/) provides documents on their hard drives... including the yet to be announced 20GB (updated), 30GB and 40GB 1.8" Hard Drives. Toshiba's current 5GB, 10GB, and 20GB 1.8" models are used in Apple's iPod.

The files include Product Specs, Tech Notes and Agency Approval/Certificate documents for all models including the new 20GB, 30GB and 40GB drives.

Of interest, the 20GB, 30GB and 40GB have 2MB of cache. In terms of size requirements: the 30GB and 40GB are 8mm high (the same as the current 20GB drive) however, the new 20GB drive comes in at 5mm (same as the 5GB and 10GB drives).

Word of the 40GB Toshiba drive leaked out (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030129214302.shtml) last week with a link posted on their product page. That link has subsequently been removed.

5GB iPod supplies (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030122112950.shtml) have been dwindling, spawning much speculation of impending updates... and while hints have been dropped (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=19101)... no definitive information is available.

arn

Feb 3, 2003, 03:32 AM

These files will likely get pulled shortly...

bentmywookie

Feb 3, 2003, 03:32 AM

I think 40 gig iPods should be right around the corner then. It will be great to not only be able to store all your music and backup a good portion of your hard drive all on one iPod (for most people at least).

kmac

Feb 3, 2003, 03:42 AM

I posted this elsewhere as well but it seems more appropriate here so I'd post it again:

Yes I think it's possible, I just called the person I know at the Apple store to check whether they have the current 17" iMac in stock, she strongly advised against buying it, saying that it would be updated as soon as Tuesday (Feb 4). She also hinted to me about the iPod announcement on the same day, but wouldn't tell me whether it's just a price cut or a product update.

cliffm

Feb 3, 2003, 03:42 AM

I'm thinking this week sometime. My 20gig from apple is still delayed and the ship times have changed back to 1-2 days from 5-7 days.

kmac

Feb 3, 2003, 03:50 AM

I had the original 5gig but couldn't resist buying the 10gig as well when it came out. But I think I will have to skip it this time if it's only an updated capacity.

Now if they add FW800 and a color screen....

ibjoshua

Feb 3, 2003, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by kmac
Now if they add FW800 and a color screen.... I don't own one but there is something nice about the b&w screen. It just seems functional and minimalist.

i_b_joshua

ibjoshua

Feb 3, 2003, 05:38 AM

oops. Server packed a tantrum on me.
Sorry for the double post

i_b_joshua

reflex

Feb 3, 2003, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by kmac
Now if they add FW800 and a color screen....

Don't forget that a color screen will decrease the battery life significantly.

synp

Feb 3, 2003, 06:51 AM

Is anyone constrained for space with a 10GB iPod? 40 is pretty big for just music and contacts.

IMHO they will show up in a new DLD.

<speculation>
Maybe a digital album for unloading a digital camera. Best thing would be a device capable of unloading images from the digital camera (as a master) yet able to connect to a computer (as a slave), and able to preview both jpegs, tiffs and AVI movies.

It will have a 7.5" color screen for displaying the images plus a B&W small LCD for conserving battery.
</speculation>

Anyway a 40GB music-only iPod looks a bit much.

Sol

Feb 3, 2003, 07:07 AM

Bigger is not always better and for an MP3 player 40GB would be overkill. Still, if Apple can sell them at roughly the same price as these drives would cost without the MP3 functions then I am all for the update. I just wish it had more functions, like video for example.

KLFloyd

Feb 3, 2003, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by synp
Anyway a 40GB music-only iPod looks a bit much. [/B]

No, not if the iPod was bootable. I know the iPod is suposed to be a bootable HardDrive but did you know you can't load Jaguar on an iPod wihout using shareware? The max OS iPod supports is 1.5.3.

I'd love to backup my music and my entire HD on my iPod then go plug it into someone else's computer and have my computer right there in my pocket.

As for the FW800, I hope it's an option, but not required. First off, I don't think the iPod can even take advantage of FW800 and secondley a very small percentage of the Apple users our ther have made the switch to FW800. If they waited another year to implement it that maybe an option

Also, can anyone give me any history on when the iPod was first introduced how popular was FireWire on Apple machines? I know all the machines had firewire but how long have all the machines supported FW?

Thanks...
Here's hoping for updates tomorrow! :)

GrandShenlong

Feb 3, 2003, 08:18 AM

I don't think Apple will put FW800 on iPods anytime soon, since the current Toshiba hard drives use only half the bandwidth of FW400. Unless Apple decides to put a 15,000 rpm drive in their new iPods, chances are, they'll stick with FW400. On the color screen matter, the iPod was designed first and foremost as an mp3 player, and it fills this role superbly. Thus, I don't think Apple will come out wiht a major revision to the iPod design, though I think a completely new device is doubtful for now (or maybe they've been delaying their big announcement to finish the new device?)

woodsey

Feb 3, 2003, 08:23 AM

These big drives sound expensive. i was just about to save up fo a 5 gig cheapie.

Lets hope they keep a cheap low end model.

DannyZR2

Feb 3, 2003, 09:08 AM

If you notice, the 5GB iPod isn't available to purchase from the online apple store anymore.. (it's been this way for a week now but I haven'te seen anyone mention it).. and it's weird how people are still speculation about the 5gb ipod being eol'd.. as far as that goes.. .it has been... but they should be dropping prices for the 10gb and 20gb...

hope they use the new 20gb drive... and 40gb?? come on! this is ridiculous! think about powerbook/ibook users! for them to have 40gb of mp3's would be nuts! those laptops recently shipped with only 40gb of space .. now they have some 60gb for laptops, but could you really spare 40 of them for mp3s (to transfer toyour ipod?!?)

I"m guession apple would only use the 40gb (even 30gb for that matter) for use in a video enable ipod that has the wonderful video out port found ont he ibook and powerbook 12".. (size of a headphone jack and i believe doubles as a headphone jack when not using the special apple video cable adapter...) i'd say it'd be pretty dern sweet if you ask...

TheInevitable

Feb 3, 2003, 09:17 AM

Can you use the iPod as an external drive? Like if I'm editing video in iMovie, but I only have 10GB HD on my PB, can I use the iPod and work off my iPod? If so, I would get one.

Bear

Feb 3, 2003, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by DannyZR2
If you notice, the 5GB iPod isn't available to purchase from the online apple store anymore.. (it's been this way for a week now but I haven'te seen anyone mention it)..
Actually there have been a couple of threads on this. One of them was at great length.
hope they use the new 20gb drive... and 40gb?? come on! this is ridiculous! think about powerbook/ibook users! for them to have 40gb of mp3's would be nuts! those laptops recently shipped with only 40gb of space .. now they have some 60gb for laptops, but could you really spare 40 of them for mp3s (to transfer toyour ipod?!?)
What if they use the iPod for file backup as well? And what about those who use a firewire drive for their MP3s? Better yet, what about those people with PowerMacs?

Also, people can use the manual transfer mode and wipe the MP3s off their computer afte rit is on the iPod if they wanted to encode more music.

Also, the TiBook had a 48 gig drive available over a year ago, and a 60 gig drive has been available since the end of April last year.
I"m guession apple would only use the 40gb (even 30gb for that matter) for use in a video enable ipod that has the wonderful video out port found ont he ibook and powerbook 12".. (size of a headphone jack and i believe doubles as a headphone jack when not using the special apple video cable adapter...) i'd say it'd be pretty dern sweet if you ask...
I think your guess is wrong. If you had read the other threads on the possibility of a 40 gig iPod, you'd know at least some people who post on these boards have a use for it.

backspinner

Feb 3, 2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by TheInevitable
Can you use the iPod as an external drive? Like if I'm editing video in iMovie, but I only have 10GB HD on my PB, can I use the iPod and work off my iPod? If so, I would get one.
Yes you can. I did before I sold my iPod. But: it's not very fast but otherwise it works well.

smashedapart

Feb 3, 2003, 09:42 AM

I can honestly say that I could use a 40 gb iPod...in fact, I'm waiting for its release. With 40 gigs, I could carry all of my music and backup everything on my computer AND my wifes computer. All together it adds up to about 35.2 gigs of data...22 of which would be mp3s.

This would be *awesome* because not only would I have my whole computer with me at all times, I'd also be able to listen to music, check my calendar, and look up phone numbers. Plus: all of my stuff is backed up. If my harddrive ever crashes, I can always use one of the several pieces of software available to retrieve my music again.

If Apple were to release this iPod, then update their Backup software to work with it...you'd have a great combination.

-- smashedapart

nodmonkey

Feb 3, 2003, 10:04 AM

if apple release new ipods, but NOT a 40GB model i will be very unimpressed :mad: . sure thing, most people don't need that kind of space for just mp3s, but i expect i will do before i want to buy a new portable music player (after the ipod i hope to get). my collection stands at just under 23GB right now, and the extra space would be good for expansion and for other data back-up.

40GB is not for most people, but it definitely has a market (even if that's just me!) :D . and saying that people who have portable macs won't have large mp3 collections to fill a pod is just not true. daisychaining with external firewire harddrives does the trick for me.

(ps. i'm a post virgin no longer) :)

vanillamike

Feb 3, 2003, 10:35 AM

Just give me the super slim 20 GB ipod for the price of the current 10 GB and you have a deal!!!

Its funny the first thing I noticed when I read the news was that the 20 GB was going to be slimmer. I went looking at the super slim 10 GB at my local apple retailer and it is beautiful. I can't wait for the revision.

Mike

P.S. 40 GB would be nice, 20 GB for music 20 GB for portable hard drive. Just wish I could afford it because I imagine it will cost way too much for my budget.

jmurnik

Feb 3, 2003, 10:52 AM

I just checked out the Apple store and found 10 Gig iPods with a 1-3 day shipping. Seems a little strange if Apple is supposed to come out with new iPods. Especially if by your accounts that size doesn't even exist anymore. Maybe another reason one might have to think about is I just bought a 10 Gig iPod so no way could Apple release one now.

Village

Feb 3, 2003, 11:05 AM

Personally, I hope Apple releases an iPod with the biggest drive possible and all the bells and whistles attached. No, I wouldn't buy it, but maybe just then I could afford a refurb 10gig model once the price shift happens.

(very first post for this MR troll!)

MacRETARD

Feb 3, 2003, 11:08 AM

The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.

Bear

Feb 3, 2003, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by MacRETARD
The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.
I suspect your username here sums you up, and that I shouldn't be responding, but for those who believe what you just posted...

Hard drive capacity has very little to do with weight. The newer drives have a higher data density, so they'll weigh about the same as the older drives.

yzedf

Feb 3, 2003, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by MacRETARD
The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.

Your nickname is well chosen.

Data density can be increased. It is not just a matter of adding more platters. That is how you can have different drives of different sizes (data wise) of the same physical size.

R&D rulez!!!

nickmcghie

Feb 3, 2003, 11:23 AM

minimac

Feb 3, 2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by vanillamike
Just give me the super slim 20 GB ipod for the price of the current 10 GB and you have a deal!!!

Add me to the list, I'll take one too. :D

jmurnik:
Maybe the 10GB is staying the same (except maybe a price drop). The 20GB will get the slimmer drive and then new 30 and/or 40GB added. With larger drives being added I have a strong feeling that the 5GB is going to get dropped...

SmileyDude

Feb 3, 2003, 11:52 AM

I would love to see a 40gig model -- I have 38 gigs of MP3s at the moment loaded on my iMac. That's all fine and dandy for when I'm at home, but I really want something to carry all of my music with me :)

Of course, what would be really good would be a 60 or 80gig model later on this year -- then, I would have room for expansion and even some room for backup files :D

nuckinfutz

Feb 3, 2003, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by GrandShenlong
I don't think Apple will put FW800 on iPods anytime soon, since the current Toshiba hard drives use only half the bandwidth of FW400. Unless Apple decides to put a 15,000 rpm drive in their new iPods, chances are, they'll stick with FW400. On the color screen matter, the iPod was designed first and foremost as an mp3 player, and it fills this role superbly. Thus, I don't think Apple will come out wiht a major revision to the iPod design, though I think a completely new device is doubtful for now (or maybe they've been delaying their big announcement to finish the new device?)

This logic is totally wrong. The speed limit in the US tops out at 70mph...why does your car go faster? FW800 has more benefits than just speed that could enhance the iPod. I expect to see FW800 on all new FW devices. The chipset isn't much more expensive from what I hear so there's really no harm.

TyleRomeo

Feb 3, 2003, 01:28 PM

just for the record, the iPod is not just a musical MP3 player, to some its an AIFF or WAV player. Besides an obvious Firewire drive.

Tyler

Thirteenva

Feb 3, 2003, 01:53 PM

my wallet is open and waiting, release the new ipod, i'm ready to buy......

:D

WannabeSQ

Feb 3, 2003, 02:09 PM

I see from this thread that many people feel that 40gb is too much for a portable mp3 player. Now for them, if 40gb is too much, don't buy one. But for people that need that much space, this is what we've been waiting for. I have over 50gb of MP3, and growing, so I dont think ill ever have an iPod for my whole library.

A side note, these 1.8" HDs seem to be growing, but laptop 2.5" drives havent gone above 60 in a long time, they have just made the 60gb ones as thin as the rest of them. When are laptop drives going to break the 100gb barrier? Then powerbooks and iBooks will have more room than their iPods.

donshank

Feb 3, 2003, 02:11 PM

For all those that say 40 gigs is Overkill...

I've put my entire cd collection into iTunes -
12,562 songs. 62 gigabytes.

so for some people 40 gigs is overkill, and for some people it's not enough.

that's why there are different sizes people.

I know several people who are poised and ready to buy the 40 gig on day one :-)

-Don

TyleRomeo

Feb 3, 2003, 02:13 PM

for all you confused about the size and weight of the new iPod to come. How bout reading the title and article that arn prepared for you.

"In terms of size requirements: the 30GB and 40GB are 8mm high (the same as the current 20GB drive) however, the new 20GB drive comes in at 5mm (same as the 5GB and 10GB drives)."

So if they use Toshiba's new 20GB drive it wil just as slim as the current 10GB one. and the 30GB and 40GB will be just as thick as the current 20Gb one. is that so confusing. hard drives come in all kinds of sizes. 5mm, 8mm, 9.5 mm, 12mm and so on. The "magic" is that companies like Toshiba continue to increase the number of bytes that each platter holds. this is how its always been.

Tyler

yzedf

Feb 3, 2003, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by TyleRomeo
for all you confused about the size and weight of the new iPod to come. How bout reading the title and article that arn prepared for you.

"In terms of size requirements: the 30GB and 40GB are 8mm high (the same as the current 20GB drive) however, the new 20GB drive comes in at 5mm (same as the 5GB and 10GB drives)."

So if they use Toshiba's new 20GB drive it wil just as slim as the current 10GB one. and the 30GB and 40GB will be just as thick as the current 20Gb one. is that so confusing. hard drives come in all kinds of sizes. 5mm, 8mm, 9.5 mm, 12mm and so on. The "magic" is that companies like Toshiba continue to increase the number of bytes that each platter holds. this is how its always been.

Tyler

Don't battle the trolls with logic.... ;)

j/k

It's all about the data density (MB/mm^2) :D

TyleRomeo

Feb 3, 2003, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by yzedf

Don't battle the trolls with logic.... ;)

j/k

It's all about the data density (MB/mm^2) :D

hey it was worth a shot, the more educated we all get on here, the more we can help others.

Tyler

bentmywookie

Feb 3, 2003, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by nuckinfutz

This logic is totally wrong. The speed limit in the US tops out at 70mph...why does your car go faster? FW800 has more benefits than just speed that could enhance the iPod. I expect to see FW800 on all new FW devices. The chipset isn't much more expensive from what I hear so there's really no harm.

The only problem is you would alienate a lot of customers. Unless there was a way to add a FW800 port that could take advantage of FW800 capabilities while still being able to connect to a FW400 computer through some adapter or something (is this possible?).

So unless that's possible, the only new 17" powerbook and powermac owners will get to use it, which isn't very fun (or profitable). When the original iPod was released, apple had been putting out computers with FW400 for over 2 yrs. I believe.

KLFloyd

Feb 3, 2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Macrumors
Toshiba's FTP site provides documents on their hard drives... including the yet to be announced 20GB (updated), 30GB and 40GB 1.8" Hard Drives.

Okay, this may be the obvious question but since these are "yet to be announced" drives can we REALLY expect Apple to update their iPod line so quickly?

Granted Apple gets a heads up before the consumers but didn't it take around 3 months from the time the 10 and 20GB drives were first released for the updated iPods to show up?

Allthough I really hope you're right, I'm curious as to why many people seem to think that iPod updates are going to be happening possiably tomorrow or in the comming weeks. Should't it take Apple a while?

If someone can explain tihs to me I'd appreciate it.

ALSO,

When i was on Apple's webpage checking the status of iPods I saw this intersting little guy:

FireCard400 - FireWire Card Bus Card (Windows Only)- The FireCard400 from Unibrain allows users to add FireWire technology to non-FireWire enabled Windows laptop computers. By inserting the IEEE 1394 compliant FireWire CardBus Card into the "type II" CardBus slot, laptops are able to connect to FireWire video and storage products, including iPod for windows.

Could we see something like this for Mac and PC laptops that will add FW800 support?

KLFloyd

Feb 3, 2003, 03:15 PM

Sorry to double post but I saw this too while searcing the Apple Store. Looks like IF they introduce a new FW800 iPod we all could use it with our older Macs if we were willing to shell out another $50 for the adapter. Here's the info...

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herocero

Feb 3, 2003, 03:30 PM

rumor from the osbournes on the new iPods . . .
supposedly, jack (or john, what ever the son's name is) was bragging on the show to his friend about how big his iPod was . . . a prototype 40GB!!! while his friend whined about his 64MB rio . . . HA!

puts my 20 to shame, and i thought 400 CDs would be enough storage for me :D

cdm

MorganX

Feb 3, 2003, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Thirteenva
my wallet is open and waiting, release the new ipod, i'm ready to buy......

:D

I don't know. Since the video iPod will be a separate product I don't know if I need hardware upgrades. I can't fill the 5GB I have. I'm using more space using it as a backup device for "My Documents" on my PC.

I would like to see a software upgrade, the iPod really needs to be able to create playlists on the fly, sans PC or Mac.

mchendricks

Feb 3, 2003, 04:21 PM

bentmywookie

I don't understand why someone wouldn't want a faster interface such as FW800. How can it alienate someone? FW800 is downward compatible with FW400.
From what you wrote, do you think everyone should go back to dial-up since not everyone has ethernet capability built in?
We should have the best interface, regardless of who doesn't have it already. I can always buy an adapter card.

yosoyjay

Feb 3, 2003, 04:35 PM

is the lack of a 5G iPod. At $200 this would be very attractive.

MacWhispers

Feb 3, 2003, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by MacRETARD
The problem is that iPods with these larger drives are going to weigh more. The 40 gig drive will weigh twice as much as the 20, and *8* times as much as the 5 gig iPod! I personally prefer the light weight.

Accordign to Toshiba's data sheets, the new (larger capacity) drives are the same weight as the older drives.

Mr. G4

Feb 3, 2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by KLFloyd

Granted Apple gets a heads up before the consumers but didn't it take around 3 months from the time the 10 and 20GB drives were first released for the updated iPods to show up?

Because the 5gig drive is smaller than the 20gig drive...so they need that extra time to redesign the case. This time, the 40gig has the same dimension (physical) as the current 20gig and the new 20gig drive is as big as the old 5 and 10 gig drive.

So Apple just pop them in the old enclosure...that is if they don't the a video display, as some of you mentioned, in the 40gig.

That's my guess.:D

redAPPLE

Feb 3, 2003, 05:02 PM

Mr. G4

Feb 3, 2003, 05:17 PM

Does anyone know this on CDW website?

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=454089

Apple 10gig Ipod PRE-ORDER only and it's $40 more than the current model. Also it has different part number
:confused:

redAPPLE

Feb 3, 2003, 05:40 PM

i am for a 40 gb iPod. what i would wish (for apple's sake(?)) they continue to sell the 5 gb model for... i do not know... 99 dollars?

of course, it all depends on how much manufacturing the 5 gigs would cost.

sure there are people who think 30 or 40 gigs of songs is overkill. the battery won't even last to listen to all of those songs.

starflyer

Feb 3, 2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Mr. G4
Does anyone know this on CDW website?

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=454089

Apple 10gig Ipod PRE-ORDER only and it's $40 more than the current model. Also it has different part number
:confused:

this was discussed in an earlier thread...i spoke to my cdw rep...he said that was just the old discontinued 10gb iPOD(the one with the bigger hdd)

starflyer

Feb 3, 2003, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by redAPPLE
i am for a 40 gb iPod. what i would wish (for apple's sake(?)) they continue to sell the 5 gb model for... i do not know... 99 dollars?

of course, it all depends on how much manufacturing the 5 gigs would cost.

sure there are people who think 30 or 40 gigs of songs is overkill. the battery won't even last to listen to all of those songs.

true...but for me a 40gb ipod would mean no more 200 scratched cd's scattered all around my car...http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

job

Feb 3, 2003, 06:03 PM

I'd go for a new slim-line 20GB iPod.

Come on people, the battery won't even last to play through 30GB or 40GB. However, for data it's great.

GiantXX5

Feb 3, 2003, 06:15 PM

Well, I sure hope the new iPods come tommorow, because I'm gettin tired of reading the same old news in all these iPod threads. I've been reading them for over a month while waiting and not much has changed. (1) Every thread has a fight over the stupid Firewire 800, (2) there is always the one person that thinks he is the first person to notice that the 5GB is on hold on apples site, (3) and you cant forget the people that think a 40GB iPod would be way to big and the long list of people who think otherwise and tell us how many songs they have. This probally seems like an ass reply, but I guess it is just because I'm about to explode if these things don't get bumped tommorow.:eek: So I'm just lettin of some steam.

THE IPODS WILL COME OUT TOMMOROW!
JUST BELIEVE!:rolleyes:

Freg3000

Feb 3, 2003, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by GiantXX5
Well, I sure hope the new iPods come tommorow, because I'm gettin tired of reading the same old news in all these iPod threads. I've been reading them for over a month while waiting and not much has changed. (1) Every thread has a fight over the stupid Firewire 800, (2) there is always the one person that thinks he is the first person to notice that the 5GB is on hold on apples site, (3) and you cant forget the people that think a 40GB iPod would be way to big and the long list of people who think otherwise and tell us how many songs they have. This probally seems like an ass reply, but I guess it is just because I'm about to explode if these things don't get bumped tommorow.:eek: So I'm just lettin of some steam.

THE IPODS WILL COME OUT TOMMOROW!
JUST BELIEVE!:rolleyes:

Absolutely True! We need something fresh! :)

nodmonkey

Feb 3, 2003, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by GiantXX5
Well, I sure hope the new iPods come tommorow, because I'm gettin tired of reading the same old news in all these iPod threads. I've been reading them for over a month while waiting and not much has changed. (1) Every thread has a fight over the stupid Firewire 800, (2) there is always the one person that thinks he is the first person to notice that the 5GB is on hold on apples site, (3) and you cant forget the people that think a 40GB iPod would be way to big and the long list of people who think otherwise and tell us how many songs they have. This probally seems like an ass reply, but I guess it is just because I'm about to explode if these things don't get bumped tommorow. So I'm just lettin of some steam.

THE IPODS WILL COME OUT TOMMOROW!
JUST BELIEVE!:rolleyes:

Excellent post! So accurately observed.

If life were a gig and we were the crowd, now would be the time for someone to start the crowd clapping and stamping in time (with an inevitable cacophony of sped-up out of time applause) in a bored but excited plea to Apple to GET ON WITH IT! Come on now... "iPod!" *clap, clap clap*, etc.

Not that we should rush these things. Night all.

MacKid

Feb 3, 2003, 06:59 PM

jettredmont

Feb 3, 2003, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Bear

Hard drive capacity has very little to do with weight. The newer drives have a higher data density, so they'll weigh about the same as the older drives.

Yeah, but when you start adding music to your iPod it starts getting really heavy really fast. I mean, 40GB of music is heavy!

vanillamike

Feb 3, 2003, 08:35 PM

Hey its not a true iPod thread until you mention a possible new DLD, more specifically the iTablet :p

Mike

jettredmont

Feb 3, 2003, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by bentmywookie

The only problem is you would alienate a lot of customers. Unless there was a way to add a FW800 port that could take advantage of FW800 capabilities while still being able to connect to a FW400 computer through some adapter or something (is this possible?).

A FW800 device can connect (via an adapter) to a FW400 device. The two devices will talk at 400, of course. All new PowerBooks include the FW800-400 adapter (to make the FW800 plug a FW400 plug), and I'd suspect Apple would throw the same adapter into a FW800-equipped iPod's box too.

This is true whether Device A is an iPod or a Mac or a video camera, and the same with Device B (there's no fixed orientation to FW as with USB).

pyrex

Feb 3, 2003, 08:45 PM

i jsut brought a 20 gb yesterday

zer0army

Feb 4, 2003, 01:55 AM

I don’t know if this has been talked about lately, but what ever happened to those links posted to the apple site with those engraved Tony hawk, Madonna, no doubt and beck ipods ?

HasanDaddy

Feb 4, 2003, 04:07 AM

the special edition iPods (Tony Hawk, No Doubt, etc) were no longer sold after Jan 7th

maka

Feb 4, 2003, 05:36 AM

That's the only reason I don't have an ipod yet... It would make it a great tool for musicians and audio enthusiasts. And Apple is supposed to be encouraging creativity (imovie... idvd... iphoto...), so c'mon :)

even better: what about a line input and a mic input, like most of the MDs have...

RedEric

Feb 4, 2003, 05:39 AM

Have just come across the post below in the *cough* thinksecret *cough* forum.

Have just been told that Apple Distributors in OZ have been told to take the 5Gb iPod off their product lists and stop advertising the model.:D

RedEric

Feb 4, 2003, 06:19 AM

I've just tried to log into the Apple Store to check my order for a 20 gig iPod and this is what I get:-

Did not receive any response from application. It is possible that the application does not exist, or that the requested url is incorrect.

Am I turning into a conspiracy theorist like the rest of you? :confused: or is it just something and nothing?

Why do I have to wait all day for an announcement it's Tuesday already here so just tell me now Apple. :mad:

redAPPLE

Feb 4, 2003, 07:17 AM

RedEric

Feb 4, 2003, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by redAPPLE

well the next threads will be, how disappointed some users are because this and that feature was not included. pricey. hate the color. etc.

but i am for new ones one way or the other.

Doesn't that just piss you off. Some people are never happy:mad:

RedEric

Feb 4, 2003, 07:34 AM

Please please please be a new iPod.

KLFloyd

Feb 4, 2003, 08:42 AM

The Apple store is back up, no new iPods. Only new iMacs were released (curious, no FW800).

And I had my MasterCard all out and ready to go.

Now what?

cliffm

Feb 4, 2003, 08:43 AM

Next week I guess....

My 20 gigger still hasn't shipped..

KLFloyd

Feb 4, 2003, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by cliffm
Next week I guess....

My 20 gigger still hasn't shipped..

Really? You're still holidng out hope?

I hope your right but I'm afraid I can't be as optimistic.

Apple releasing new products three weeks in a row and all of this just a month after MacWorld? Have they ever done this before?

The only hope I hold is perhaps they're revamping their entire product line with price drops and some enhances with hopes of pulling more of the Switchers market. Think Secret reports that Apple had a difficult time this holiday season with people walking in with ads from Dell and Gateway showing them the low prices and trying to compare the two systems.

I hope your right, I'm just not sure how much more of this I can take.

Sol

Feb 4, 2003, 08:50 AM

Big is not better. Big is predictable. Apple can bring out a bigger capacity iPod but the experience would not be much different than what the current generation iPods provide.

MP4 offers many improvements over its predecessor, namely improved quality and efficiency. If Apple updates the iPod's firmware with MP4 functionality it will mean users will have space for more media than they do now.

As for the video, sometime during mid-2003 Intel will be selling a portable video player. Marketing-wise, if you were Apple would you want to follow in Intel's steps or would you sit it out and see how they do with it first?

Anyway, Apple is always pushing FireWire and QuickTime. vPod or whatever would be a convenient way to combine the two and take on Windows Media Player and USB. Innovation.

cliffm

Feb 4, 2003, 08:54 AM

When I originally made my order back in December for my 15"Pb and Ipod through the employee store, everything kept getting delayed and delayed. Then when the 17" came out, they gave me the option to upgrade or they would ship the 15" right away.
I opted for the upgrade.. Now, my Ipod is doing the same thing, It was supposed to ship the 31st (when Ilife was sceduled to com out), then it was mysteriously delayed again..

amnesiac1984

Feb 4, 2003, 12:35 PM

I'm looking to get an ipod and 40gb would be perfect, i currently have 32.7 gb of mp3s and growing, i would hat to have to choose which ones i wanted to listen to or not, this way its so much easier, jsut sync em all!

evilfunkgenius

Feb 4, 2003, 12:59 PM

...and what about AM/FM? or recording options?

WannabeSQ

Feb 4, 2003, 01:51 PM

As much as I would like a bigger iPod (I have a 10gb) I wont get one if it is just a size increase. I would need to create playlists on the go, be able to record, either high quality for music, or low quality for speech. I hope Apple innovates, but just making them bigger isn't enough for me to go through the trouble of selling mine to get a bigger one.