Wraps come off Audi's new TT [Archive]

iGav

Apr 7, 2006, 06:49 AM

Not sure... I think I preferred the previous 'frowning' design language of Audi (see A2, TT).

Headlights remind me of the new Ford Focus actually. :eek: :p

Rinky dink link (http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=219425)

Thoughts?

P.S. the p*ssy spoiler is gone too! yey! :D

Queso

Apr 7, 2006, 06:54 AM

gallagb

Apr 7, 2006, 06:58 AM

2 bad "zoom zoom zoom" is already used.

but i'm a big Audi & VW fan.
i like it-
i like the new body shape (side profile) - the older one- i was noticing yesterday- looks very similar to the bug -- this one has a more 'sporty' shape imo

would be interested in finding out how it handles compared...etc
or what the new stats really mean- as i am not doing a side by side comparison. etc-

:)
thanks for showing it to us!

Applespider

Apr 7, 2006, 07:11 AM

Don't like it. The curves of the original were what made it looks so fabulous - I'm not a fan of angles.

Lau

Apr 7, 2006, 07:13 AM

I liked these ones better, I think.

http://www.automobile-sportive.com/guide/audi/ttv6/ttv6-guide.jpg

The new one looks a bit grown-up. I'm sure it'll be popular with grown-ups for that very reason though. :p

edit: Applespider - great minds again, eh? :p

obeygiant

Apr 7, 2006, 07:17 AM

it looks mean.

WinterMute

Apr 7, 2006, 07:54 AM

Looks even more like someone washed a 911 on a too-hot cycle....:D

Look at the back of that, it's 100% Porche.

Prefer the old one, sappy spoiler and all.

iGav

Apr 7, 2006, 07:58 AM

Prefer the old one, sappy spoiler and all.

I've just re-read the article, the new one has one too... though it hides it until you're going fast enough to probably need it. :p

Wonder what clayj will think???

I'm also thinking that maybe they should've retired the TT name, and come up with a new one for this.

takao

Apr 7, 2006, 08:00 AM

hmm yeah for the front i'm not so sure.. i like the grill but the headlights are kinda "seen before" compared to the original design.. and from the side profile it is obviously looking a lot like a Porsche .. at least that's what i thought of instantly

iGary

Apr 7, 2006, 08:18 AM

It's like a Z-series front, and a Ford Focus rear. :rolleyes:

Phat Elvis

Apr 7, 2006, 08:58 AM

I'm a big fan of the new grill - and the headlights. I can't tell what the back looks like.

However, I do agree that the old TT was more distinctive. This looks a little too much like the A3 and A4 (both of which I love).

On the plus side, the old TT was underpowered and this should be faster.

Overall I like it a lot. Can I fit two carseats in it? :rolleyes:

Chaszmyr

Apr 7, 2006, 09:00 AM

Looks a little Porsche inspired. I like it a lot better than the old TT.

cheekyspanky

Apr 7, 2006, 09:10 AM

Looks okay..as mentioned before though the front does look like it's borrowed elements from the Focus..!

bartelby

Apr 7, 2006, 09:23 AM

It looks like they've cut the front 1/3 of a focus and welded it to the back 2/3s of a Porsche

iGav

Apr 7, 2006, 09:35 AM

I can't tell what the back looks like.

here you go fella. ;)

pukka interior too. :D

iGav

Apr 7, 2006, 09:36 AM

Looks okay..as mentioned before though the front does look like it's borrowed elements from the Focus..!

Kinda freaky isn't it... :eek:

yg17

Apr 7, 2006, 09:43 AM

i like it.

ph0rce

Apr 7, 2006, 09:48 AM

cool. I got a postcard in the post from them the otherday :) will have to check it out some time :)

Diatribe

Apr 7, 2006, 10:00 AM

It looks like they've cut the front 1/3 of a focus and welded it to the back 2/3s of a Porsche

That basically sums it up. I'll withhold any comment until I see the convertible.

crdean1

Apr 7, 2006, 10:08 AM

Looks like Jaguar X and S- Type from back, which looks like Ford Contour.

bartelby

Apr 7, 2006, 10:34 AM

That basically sums it up. I'll withhold any comment until I see the convertible.

I'm gonna guess it'll look much the same but without a roof;) :D

Diatribe

Apr 7, 2006, 10:35 AM

I'm gonna guess it'll look much the same but without a roof;) :D

:p

OutThere

Apr 7, 2006, 01:28 PM

Oog...not a big fan of the front, though the side view is nice.

Much prefered the older one.

AlBDamned

Apr 7, 2006, 02:00 PM

I'm also thinking that maybe they should've retired the TT name, and come up with a new one for this.

I guess the TT brand is too valuable to ditch.

Looks cool, if a little unadventurous (especially when you think of the stir the original one caused).

I hope it goes round corners better than the last one. Any news on engines or will it have the run of the current Audi line-up?

tag

Apr 7, 2006, 02:13 PM

I hope it goes round corners better than the last one.

Gah are you kidding? I personally have only driven the AWD Quattro version, but that thing can handle corners insanely well. Though I would assume the FWD one wouldn't be quite as good if thats what you were referring to.

Lord Blackadder

Apr 7, 2006, 02:13 PM

It's not bad looking at all, but the purity of the original styling is completely gone. Still a nice car though, and the TT is a strong brand.

And those headlamps look EXACTLY like those of the Focus...

iGav

Apr 7, 2006, 02:36 PM

I personally have only driven the AWD Quattro version, but that thing can handle corners insanely well.

They grip... but they do lack dynamics, not that they're bad or anything, but they're not as entertaining as they could be.

Though they were much better before the demasculination of it by tweaking the suspension, stability control and adding the p*ssy spoiler on the back, before that... it was an edgy little thing. ;)

devilot

Apr 7, 2006, 02:41 PM

it looks mean.I agree. And I like the front end... I just like it a lot more than the older body style. I'd still rather an S4 wagon, though. :p

clayj

Apr 7, 2006, 02:47 PM

Wonder what clayj will think???They've officially ruined the TT.

What a TT should look like:

http://www.clayj.com/html/TT(1).jpg
http://www.clayj.com/html/TT(2).jpg
http://www.clayj.com/html/TT(3).jpg

I agree it should have been named something else... this new one just dilutes the power of the original TT's good name.

AlBDamned

Apr 7, 2006, 02:51 PM

Gah are you kidding? I personally have only driven the AWD Quattro version, but that thing can handle corners insanely well. Though I would assume the FWD one wouldn't be quite as good if thats what you were referring to.

It was the 180BHP one so yep, it was only FWD. Nose heavy in corners and too unsettled on uneven surfaces (i.e. most of the UK's roads). Would love to have tried the 225BHP and the 3.2 sport of course.

Weirdly, I've seen quite a few without the wing recently. I guess they must never get out of London traffic!

I'd still rather an S4 wagon, though.

It wasn't a wagon, but I saw a new RS4 saloon the other day and that thing really did look mean! The defined big grill face looks cool on all the Audi's. Particularly the W12 A8 LWB.

Edit: here we go...

Applespider

Apr 7, 2006, 03:02 PM

It was the 180BHP one so yep, it was only FWD. Nose heavy in corners and too unsettled on uneven surfaces (i.e. most of the UK's roads). Would love to have tried the 225BHP and the 3.2 sport of course.

They were v different. My ex had a 180 and my mother had the 225 and the difference driving wise was extraordinary.

My mother loved hers - she still reckons it was one of the best cars she's owned in snow in terms of gripping the road.

devilot

Apr 7, 2006, 03:04 PM

It wasn't a wagon, but I saw a new RS4 saloon the other day and that thing really did look mean! The defined big grill face looks cool on all the Audi's. Particularly the W12 A8 LWB.

Edit: here we go...Not bad looking at all... but I appreciate the 'sleeper' nature of the wagon's looks. :p Plus, if I ever have an intense shopping trip (or a family in the far far future), then a wagon would probably offer more practicability.

EGT

Apr 7, 2006, 03:47 PM

I'd drive it. I think it looks good.

PlaceofDis

Apr 7, 2006, 03:50 PM

its not horrible, but its not a TT either. shame.

3rdpath

Apr 7, 2006, 04:02 PM

wow, talk about messing up a classic design...that puppy's Fugly.

The old TT is sleek, simple and a touch retro--that new thing is so overwhelmed with trite stylish puffery that it really shouldn't be called a TT.

I will now refer to it as the TT vomitous coupe.

igucl

Apr 7, 2006, 04:12 PM

It's blah. I definitely prefer the original.

jelloshotsrule

Apr 7, 2006, 04:15 PM

I will now refer to it as the TT vomitous coupe.

when did you jump from music to advertising??? :mad: :) ;) :D :o

3rdpath

Apr 7, 2006, 04:21 PM

when did you jump from music to advertising??? :mad: :) ;) :D :o

you mean there's a difference?;)

jelloshotsrule

Apr 7, 2006, 04:37 PM

you mean there's a difference?;)

touche

Church

Apr 7, 2006, 05:06 PM

I think it looks like one of those new mitsubshi eclipses...
Old TT looks better i think...

(Sidenote: in Gran Turismo 4, I had a hard ass time driving some audi, s4 maybe, it didn't want to turn. Oh well, that was only for a driving test, and now I'm racing with my Pontiac GTO and Lotus Elise 111R, w00t!)

jakochampolska

Apr 7, 2006, 08:49 PM

Ew.
What the hell? Its looks like that new ugly mercedes-benz.
How could audi do this?!!?

diehldun

Apr 7, 2006, 08:55 PM

Ew.
What the hell? Its looks like that new ugly mercedes-benz.
How could audi do this?!!?

Which Mercedes-Benz?

Anyways, while I find the exterior to be rather attractive and gorgeous looking, I'm not liking the interior. Looks rather "cheap" and "un-Audi-like" inside. Not impressed at all (at the interior). :mad:

alexstein

Apr 7, 2006, 09:48 PM

I have to say I like it but it is lacking the spirit that the MK1 had. When I first saw the original TT (as we know it now not the one from the 50's) I new that I had to get one.

Sure the new model looks good but it can't hold a candle to the attitude, styling and or originality the old model had/has. Audi should have dropped the TT name. But it is to strong of a brand for Audi since it helped to rebuild the Audi Brand here in the US to the status they have right now.

Jay42

Apr 7, 2006, 09:58 PM

Well, the jury's still out on the exterior. I do like the profile with the parallel lines in the side panel crease and the belt line.

But once again, Audi has nailed the interior design. I'm not a huge fan of the circular vents, but those have become a kind of signature of the TT. Too bad the flat-bottomed sport wheel won't be coming to the US any time soon: they're illegal :( .

It wasn't a wagon, but I saw a new RS4 saloon the other day and that thing really did look mean!

Tough to beat the new RS4, one unbelievable car.

jakochampolska

Apr 7, 2006, 10:09 PM

Which Mercedes-Benz?

Anyways, while I find the exterior to be rather attractive and gorgeous looking, I'm not liking the interior. Looks rather "cheap" and "un-Audi-like" inside. Not impressed at all (at the interior). :mad:

the cls500, that car is one ugly son of a gun.

CompUser

Apr 7, 2006, 11:17 PM

I like it except for those horrible squinty angry headlights. It looks like a BMW or Dodge Charger. Gross

The rest of it looks like a porsche which is cool.

MacAficionado

Apr 8, 2006, 12:07 AM

Looks like Jaguar X and S- Type from back, which looks like Ford Contour.

You know, the sad thing is that one of those, the X Type I think it is, the smaller one of the two was actually on the same wheelbase as the Contour. It rides as bad as the Ford Contour. It was a disgrace.

iGav

Apr 8, 2006, 05:47 AM

It was the 180BHP one so yep, it was only FWD. Nose heavy in corners and too unsettled on uneven surfaces

They were v different. My ex had a 180 and my mother had the 225 and the difference driving wise was extraordinary.

The 180's were Quattro's too, the 150's were FWD. ;)

All TT's are nose heavy, and understeer like a barge. More so since Audi softened them up after a spate of high speed crashes soon after launch.

Applespider

Apr 8, 2006, 05:51 AM

The 180's were Quattro's too, the 150's were FWD. ;)

Maybe he had a 150 then - I can't call and ask ;) I know he had the low-end model and my mother had a higher end one. That really didn't make him happy... :rolleyes:

iGav

Apr 8, 2006, 05:55 AM

I know he had the low-end model and my mother had a higher end one. That really didn't make him happy... :rolleyes:

hahahahahahaha.

The tell tale on the TT is the number of exhausts. ;)

bartelby

Apr 8, 2006, 07:22 AM

1/3 ford + 2/3 Porsche = new TT

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a132/Carbonated_Noise/fosche.jpg

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44591&d=1144406877

AlBDamned

Apr 8, 2006, 07:26 AM

The 180's were Quattro's too, the 150's were FWD. ;)

Just double checked and they did 2wd and quattro versions of the 180BHP. Exhausts are indeed a tell-tale sign (2 for the quattro), as are weeny 16" rims that came with the stock 150bhp model.

AlBDamned

Apr 8, 2006, 07:29 AM

1/3 ford + 2/3 Porsche = new TT

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a132/Carbonated_Noise/fosche.jpg

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44591&d=1144406877

Incredibly similar when put like that. The curves of the porsche and lights of the focus are pretty much identical. :rolleyes:

Queso

Apr 8, 2006, 07:33 AM

Bartleby

You really should send that pic to a motoring magazine. Picture = 1000 words and all that.

garybUK

Apr 8, 2006, 07:34 AM

Queso

Apr 8, 2006, 07:37 AM

It may stop hair dressers buying them now :P

How much does your hairdresser charge? :eek: I'm in the wrong business.

timmillwood

Apr 8, 2006, 07:40 AM

i think the new TT looks better than the old one

AlBDamned

Apr 8, 2006, 08:07 AM

Bartleby

You really should send that pic to a motoring magazine. Picture = 1000 words and all that.

Indeed. Bartleby, autocar in the UK: autocar@haynet.com

iGav

Apr 8, 2006, 09:47 AM

Just double checked and they did 2wd and quattro versions of the 180BHP.

Now that's got me thinking... was that released after the 150PS??? I thought that the 150PS model was the first TT introduced with FWD as a cheap way onto the TT ladder, next time I see my ex (she works for Audi UK) I'll see what the deal was with that.

Talking of TT's, the 3.2 was cracking, we had one for a weekend whilst she was waiting on the A8 TTDi. Vastly superior to the Turbo models, DSG too. :D

Just a quick check... reveals that a 180 FWD TT was indeed available in 2000 :eek: so apologies to the 'Spider and AIB, ;)

They must have kept that option well hidden in the brochure... (my TT one doesn't mention it) think you did right to dump that guy 'Spider, he didn't always want to go dutch by the way did he??? heheh.

Applespider

Apr 8, 2006, 10:06 AM

think you did right to dump that guy 'Spider, he didn't always want to go dutch by the way did he??? heheh.

:D Let's just say that his choice of a TT was... um... compensating :rolleyes:

AlBDamned

Apr 8, 2006, 10:52 AM

Now that's got me thinking... was that released after the 150PS??? I thought that the 150PS model was the first TT introduced with FWD as a cheap way onto the TT ladder, next time I see my ex (she works for Audi UK) I'll see what the deal was with that.

.

I'm not sure but I think the 150 may have been brought in afterwards. I have a feeling at launch, it was available as 180BHP 2wd and 225 Quattro, but it was so long ago I'm not sure.

bartelby

Apr 8, 2006, 11:49 AM

Indeed. Bartleby, autocar in the UK: autocar@haynet.com

Sent.

I'll post any reply, if there is one...

iGav

Apr 8, 2006, 11:53 AM

Sent.

I'll post any reply, if there is one...

it really is freakishy similar isn't it. :eek: :p :p :p :p :p :p

shadowmoses

Apr 8, 2006, 01:50 PM

Its a very nice looking car, but the Original TT still looks stunning and how old is it again?? easily the best aging car of this generation of not the best aging car ever...

ShadoW

bartelby

Apr 8, 2006, 02:00 PM

Its a very nice looking car, but the Original TT still looks stunning and how old is it again?? easily the best aging car of this generation of not the best aging car ever...

ShadoW

I think the DB7 aged better.

clayj

Apr 8, 2006, 03:16 PM

YES! The new TT looks more like a man's car at least, the old one was like a bubble car and was girly. This is much nicer, it looks leaner, meaner and more aerodynamic.

Well done Audi!! It actually looks nice now.

It may stop hair dressers buying them now :PThe original TT (I am on my SECOND now) came out in late 1999... I bought my first in February 2000 (a black one) and traded it in for my second in April 2002 (a silver one)... both 4-cyl manual quattros (which aren't even an option now — if you want quattro or manual, you have to get the 6-cyl model). The original TT also won several design awards, including Design of the Year from International Design magazine.

The new TT ain't gonna win any such awards. It's clearly an inferior product, the result of the original Freeman Thomas design being altered by whoever replaced him when he left VW/Audi for DaimlerChrysler. The original looked like something from the 1930s; the new one is clearly a car of the 2000s.

Mike Teezie

Apr 8, 2006, 07:47 PM

My initial impression of the car is not very good, but I'll reserve complete judgement until I see one in person. I do like the interior.

My girlfriend is going to be very disappointed. She was looking at getting a TT soon, and I don't know if she's going to like this new model very much.

It's insane how much bartelby's mockup looks like the new TT design! It inspired me to make a quick 'n dirty little animation. The similarity becomes even more apparent:

http://mnjordan.com/images/misc/mr/new_tt.gif

(hope you don't mind bartleby...)

Takumi

Apr 8, 2006, 10:40 PM

As the title suggests Audid stopped being cool when they moved away form the boxier shaped cars of the early 90's and 80'

case in point the Audi 90 quattro (my favourtie model) woth a body kit and a pant job could look like this
http://www.audi90.ch/main/images/89_audi_90_imsa_1.jpg

ok, ok, that's an IMSA car, but they gone away form that classic european 4door saloon look which was and still is so cool

Takumi

Abstract

Apr 9, 2006, 01:37 AM

Looks a little Porsche inspired.

A "little"? ;)

It looks like they've cut the front 1/3 of a focus and welded it to the back 2/3s of a Porsche

Haha, Ford........a bit harsh.

I do like the side panels a lot more. The previous model looked a bit too "bubble-ish".......too rounded. It didn't look aggressive enough for me. If I buy a sports car, it better not look like it has mumps. Not saying that the original TT model was ugly, but it did look like an elongated Beetle in a way.

garybUK

Apr 9, 2006, 06:01 AM

The original TT (I am on my SECOND now) came out in late 1999... I bought my first in February 2000 (a black one) and traded it in for my second in April 2002 (a silver one)... both 4-cyl manual quattros (which aren't even an option now — if you want quattro or manual, you have to get the 6-cyl model). The original TT also won several design awards, including Design of the Year from International Design magazine.

The new TT ain't gonna win any such awards. It's clearly an inferior product, the result of the original Freeman Thomas design being altered by whoever replaced him when he left VW/Audi for DaimlerChrysler. The original looked like something from the 1930s; the new one is clearly a car of the 2000s.

Not True, Audi still sell the 1.8 T Quattro 4 Cyl 6 speed manual

It may have won design awards but they are a matter of taste, the original TT look like a bubbled / elongated beatle which isn't the best platform to start designing a car. The new one looks meaner like it could now stand up against some of the other coupe' and not look ... well.... girly and wimpish

bartelby

Apr 9, 2006, 07:09 AM

http://mnjordan.com/images/misc/mr/new_tt.gif

(hope you don't mind bartleby...)

That's fantastic!!

Good work fella!!!

alexstein

Apr 9, 2006, 12:12 PM

Not True, Audi still sell the 1.8 T Quattro 4 Cyl 6 speed manual

It may have won design awards but they are a matter of taste, the original TT look like a bubbled / elongated beatle which isn't the best platform to start designing a car. The new one looks meaner like it could now stand up against some of the other coupe' and not look ... well.... girly and wimpish

You made a pretty brought statement there, all Audi TT's are 1.8T or 3.2 V6. So yes they still make a 6 Speed. Here are the configurations as far as I know here in the US.

1.8T 180HP front wheel drive -manual, automatic

1.8T 180HP quattro -manual, automatic

1.8T 225HP quattro -manual (automatic not an option)

3.2 V6 250HP DSG only in the US (launch control disabled)

I think the manual were dropped in the later model years of the front wheel drive.

One thing not to forget about the first version TT is that it went from design study pretty much straight to production (only minor changes were made). Here are a few pictures for comparison of the new and old.

Stridder44

Apr 9, 2006, 12:50 PM

VW did this same thing with their lineup too (yes I know, VW owns Audi)...although the Passats actually look better with the new models I think. The new Jettas are hideous (except for the R-GT version). The GTI's are nice....all except for the front.

Passat
http://www.reportmotori.it/Passat%20-%20Profilo800.jpg

Jetta
http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/235-25099-570555-26064/RWD%20Jetta.jpg

Jetta R-GT
http://www.buscatuning.com/blog/wp-content/fotos/marcas/volkswagen/jetta/jetta-R-GT-4.jpg

GTI
http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/albums/Volkswagen/Golf%20-%20GTI%20-%20Rabbit/Golf%20V/GTI%20-%20EU/026.jpg