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Mike Teezie
Apr 13, 2006, 10:31 PM
I don't know if any of you guys watch Bill Maher's show on HBO, but watch it every week religiously. Last week's 3 person panel had Ben Affleck, Kevin Phillips (author/former Republican strategist), and Sen. Joe Biden.

I'd never seen Joe Biden speak in person, nor did I know anything about him.
I have to say I was impressed! He seemed really no-nonsense, and talked with passion and intelligence. The main phrase that came out of his mouth was, "we need to be DOING things, not talking about them". What he said made sense to me.

I was wondering what the general consensus was on this guy, as he says he is running for President in '08. He has a site, but that's not nearly as good as talking about something here.

Now before anybody starts bashing me for not being able to make up my own mind, re-read my post. I like the guy. I want to hear some other opinions from people I respect on these boards.



D0ct0rteeth
Apr 13, 2006, 10:42 PM
Overall, I like Biden. He has faults, (the whole plaegerism thing) but I think he is better than most of the crowd out there. I'd chose him over Hillary any day.

A Biden vs McCain ticket would be good for the country. (I think he even says that in the fresh air interview below)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5192969
http://www.npr.org/programs/npc/2001/010910.jbiden.html
http://uniteourstates.com/blog/

Verto
Apr 13, 2006, 10:46 PM
The main phrase that came out of his mouth was, "we need to be DOING things, not talking about them". What he said made sense to me.

So what exactly is he DOING? :confused:

IJ Reilly
Apr 13, 2006, 10:49 PM
I just happened to catch part of Maher last night. I thought Biden was terrific. I was kind of surprised, really. He always came across to me before as kind of an empty suit.

zimv20
Apr 13, 2006, 10:52 PM
i was a biden fan in the 80's. he did/said a few things which i didn't agree with (and i couldn't even tell you now what those things were), but to be fair i haven't been watching him very closely since.

i did have the impression he is a very bright guy.

as far as a presidential run goes, more power to him, but he faces the same problem that gore and kerry did: a long senate voting record that's open to scrutiny, exaggeration and misrepresentation.

OnceUGoMac
Apr 13, 2006, 11:00 PM
I like Biden a lot. My dream ticket would be Warner/Biden. Time will tell.:cool:

solvs
Apr 13, 2006, 11:35 PM
I like Biden too. Wasn't he the one who stood up to Gonzales, saying we shouldn't torture because then we're no better than the terrorists? Seems like a good candidate for VP, but I'm sure the machine will find dirt on him. There was something about him I didn't like though. Can't remember what it was. It was like Reid and the abortion thing. Something I disagreed with him on. Must not have been that important. I like Feingold too, but even though some of us liked the censure thing, apparently it wasn't enough of us.

Plus the fact that this country is sadly very antisemitic.

tristan
Apr 13, 2006, 11:48 PM
I saw the exact same show and turned to my wife and said "I wish this guy was our President". He's great, like a democrat with some balls.

Sayhey
Apr 14, 2006, 12:08 AM
Biden is an articulate man with lots of experience. He also will have to continue to explain his plagiarism of Kinnock in his last presidential run. I would be fine with him as a nominee, but I think his chances are very slim. My choice? Gore or Feingold.

Mike Teezie
Apr 14, 2006, 01:36 AM
He's been in the Senate since the day he turned 30, as he said on the show.

One thing that surprised me - Bill Maher asked him point blank, "Are you going to run for President?" to which he replied, "Yep."

No crawfishing, just a straight answer.

Another thing - he said a few four letter words, not that matters to me in the very least. He even said goddamn at one point. In a way, it was refreshing. Made him seem like a real guy, because he was talking in a way normally completely off limits to politicians.

Unfortunately, I can see that clip on perma-repeat come election time.

rdowns
Apr 14, 2006, 03:08 AM
Funny, I was going to open a thread on the same topic after watching it but didn't get around to it.

He came off as a straight shooter and said what was on his mind. He'll never be President.