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wojofm1
Apr 17, 2006, 06:05 PM
does any 1 know or have a good guess at how much the new ibook will cost?



sixsept
Apr 17, 2006, 06:13 PM
Just a guess, not necessarily a good one
1.66 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 40Gb, 512MB $1299
1.83 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 60Gb, 512MB $1599
both coming with iSight, MagSafe in the radical new design...

Danksi
Apr 17, 2006, 06:36 PM
does any 1 know or have a good guess at how much the new ibook will cost?

My guess would be the same price as the existing iBook +/- US$100.

eVolcre
Apr 17, 2006, 06:54 PM
From all that I've read .. FWIW

Take the price of the 2 minis and add 400 to any configuration to account for the screen and laptop case. Makes sense if you think about it, doesn't it?

eV

shadowmoses
Apr 18, 2006, 05:12 PM
As there will probably only be one 13.3" version of the macBook i'd say it will be priced beetween the 12" and 14" iBook's

ShadoW

vga4life
Apr 18, 2006, 05:20 PM
Just a guess, not necessarily a good one
1.66 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 40Gb, 512MB $1299
1.83 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 60Gb, 512MB $1599
both coming with iSight, MagSafe in the radical new design...

Bleagh. That's double the price of a similar-spec windows laptop. Sounds nauseatingly likely.

Mac OS will never survive as a platform without a real <$1000 notebook or <$500 desktop, not when you can get $500 windows laptops or $250 desktops.

Earth to Apple: 4 digit prices won't fly in the mass market. Suck it up.

macgeek2005
Apr 18, 2006, 05:23 PM
Just a guess, not necessarily a good one
1.66 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 40Gb, 512MB $1299
1.83 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 60Gb, 512MB $1599
both coming with iSight, MagSafe in the radical new design...

What are you smoking? They are not going to have integrated graphics. Not in a $1599 laptop. No ****ing way.

dornoforpyros
Apr 18, 2006, 05:24 PM
Earth to Apple: 4 digit prices won't fly in the mass market. Suck it up.

earth to vga4life...macs are a luxury item, not meant for mass market

yoda13
Apr 18, 2006, 05:28 PM
For real. Macs have and always will be a premium priced luxury item, sort of like an expensive German auto, or a fine Swiss watch. There has been some blurring of lines with the Mac Mini, but Apple is what it is.:cool:

Voidness
Apr 18, 2006, 05:29 PM
Just a guess, not necessarily a good one
1.66 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 40Gb, 512MB $1299
1.83 Core Duo, Integrated Graphics, 60Gb, 512MB $1599
both coming with iSight, MagSafe in the radical new design...
No way for integrated graphics, the iBook currently has Radeon 9550, which is MUCH better than any integrated graphics offering. So including integrated graphics in the Intel iBook would be an obvious downgrade in every respect. The Mac Minis used to have Radeon 9200, which lacked any support for Core Image, and were greatly lacking. That's one reason why Apple was able to justify using Integrated Graphics for the Intel Mac Minis.

Edit: I also just wanted to add, the iBook's Radeon 9550 is faster than the Geforce 5200 found in the 12" Powerbook.

zap2
Apr 18, 2006, 05:34 PM
I bet intel iBooks do have IIG, just to cut back the price to make room for a 899 iBook and a 1099

Both 13.3'' Models

899-Core Solo, 40Gb Drive, IIG, iSight ,FrontRow.

1099- Core Dou 60Gb Drive IIG iSight, FrontRow.

generik
Apr 18, 2006, 05:38 PM
What are you smoking? They are not going to have integrated graphics. Not in a $1599 laptop. No ****ing way.

Yes way, they sure used integrated graphics in a $700 desktop alright...

California
Apr 18, 2006, 06:12 PM
Edit: I also just wanted to add, the iBook's Radeon 9550 is faster than the Geforce 5200 found in the 12" Powerbook.

What does this mean exactly? I do know that my former 1.42ghz iBook seemed waaay faster than my 12" 1.5ghz Powerbook. But how is the radeon/geforce stuff related to that?

StoneWolf
Apr 18, 2006, 06:17 PM
I think it's safe to say that the Macbooks WILL have integrated graphics. This has several benefits:
1. Keeps costs down - one of the reasons why Windows Laptops are so much cheaper.
2. Extremely low power consumption. The power usage is WAY lower than ATI's "Powerplay" enabled mobile chips. This also results in less heat.
3. Good enough performance for anything other than games.
4. Size. Thin is in.

milo
Apr 18, 2006, 06:47 PM
Bleagh. That's double the price of a similar-spec windows laptop. Sounds nauseatingly likely.

Mac OS will never survive as a platform without a real <$1000 notebook or <$500 desktop, not when you can get $500 windows laptops or $250 desktops.

I doubt the base macbook will go up to 1299. Hopefully should be 1099 tops, there's no reason for the price to go up more than the minis. And who has a core duo laptop for $650? Sure, you can get a $500 laptop or $250 desktop, but that's for a piece of crap, not a core duo (or even a solo in the $250 machine). Are you saying that Apple should make boxes that use the cheapest, crappiest components with lousy performance just to have models that are bargain basement? And you do realize that the $250 pc's don't sell nearly as well as more expensive ones, right? Everyone SAYS they want a $250 pc, but few can bring themselves to buy that piece of junk.

"Mac OS will never survive..." sounds pretty foolish when Apple is having their best sales ever and growing faster than the PC market.


What does this mean exactly? I do know that my former 1.42ghz iBook seemed waaay faster than my 12" 1.5ghz Powerbook. But how is the radeon/geforce stuff related to that?

It means you'll only see a difference playing games. Doing anything else, an integrated graphics chip is more than good enough. And that includes playing HD video.

baby duck monge
Apr 18, 2006, 08:07 PM
From all that I've read .. FWIW

Take the price of the 2 minis and add 400 to any configuration to account for the screen and laptop case. Makes sense if you think about it, doesn't it?

eV

That seems way too high. You're talking at least $1600 for this new laptop which is more than a new 12" Powerbook right now. If this were purely a Powerbook replacement I might believe it, but if what we hear it true this is also set to replace the iBook, so that's got to be a no-go.

dr_lha
Apr 18, 2006, 08:25 PM
My guess is $1099, with similar specs to the Core Duo Mini. Count me in as someone who thinks it will come with Integrated Graphics.

However, my experience with the Mini is that the Integrated Graphics will be fine for this machine.

rhsgolfer33
Apr 18, 2006, 09:01 PM
Yes way, they sure used integrated graphics in a $700 desktop alright...

Which isnt really all that uncommon. Im sitting at a $700 Compaq desktop as we speak that runs with a 32mb integrated graphics chip. FWIW, it plays call of duty and medal of honor at 20-30fps at 800x600, not bad considering it only has 256mb of ram to begin with.

At least one of the iBook/Macbook/12" powerbook replacement will have dedicated graphics, especially if, like is rumored, one model will be replacing the 12" powerbook. My guess on the cost, $1099 and $1499 if they do a 2 model line, or $999, $1299, and $1599 if they do a 3 model line.

As for the person who said that its more expensive than a similary speced windows lappy(I consider sony to be similar in the quality to apple of the computers it makes, although they arent as good looking), not really, look at the SZ sony, if the top end Macbook is closely speced, like rumored, it will be a much better deal. The SZ starts at $1449 with a core solo, no camera, 2x256mb of ram, a 40gb hd, and a combo drive. Also, compaqs core notebook starts at $879 with a core solo, 256mb of ram, a 40gb hd, combo drive, and integrated graphics. HPs core notebook starts at $899 with the same specs as the Compaq. The dell core notebook starts at $749 and currently has a free upgrade to a duo and to 1gb ram, but still has a combo drive, iig, and 40gb hd. So id really like to know where youre getting a core duo notebook for $500.

generik
Apr 18, 2006, 09:02 PM
What I really hope to see would be a 13" MBP. It will be the perfect lappie for me... :(

direzz
Apr 18, 2006, 10:58 PM
That seems way too high. You're talking at least $1600 for this new laptop which is more than a new 12" Powerbook right now. If this were purely a Powerbook replacement I might believe it, but if what we hear it true this is also set to replace the iBook, so that's got to be a no-go.


dont forget about canadian dollars! :mad:

direzz
Apr 18, 2006, 10:59 PM
What I really hope to see would be a 13" MBP. It will be the perfect lappie for me... :(

hear hear! i only wish

Verto
Apr 18, 2006, 11:01 PM
For real. Macs have and always will be a premium priced luxury item, sort of like an expensive German auto, or a fine Swiss watch. There has been some blurring of lines with the Mac Mini, but Apple is what it is.:cool:

Oh please. Apple computers are manufactured in the same Asian cheapshops as the other PC makers.

QCassidy352
Apr 18, 2006, 11:15 PM
base model at $999 or $1099. If the MB replaces the 12" PB, then we'll also see a model at around $1499. If not, we'll probably see one around $1299.

Peyton
Apr 18, 2006, 11:26 PM
Oh please. Apple computers are manufactured in the same Asian cheapshops as the other PC makers.

but designed in california :cool: :o

generik
Apr 18, 2006, 11:58 PM
but designed in california :cool: :o

So? A Dell is can be marketted to be "Proudly engineered by Americans for America" as well.

What's so distinctive about California? Last I checked even the movies that are spawned from that place sucks like there is no tomorrow, and the movie industry is crying all day about how people don't go to theatres anymore.

I suppose Apples are designed in that same kind of climate too? Previously good but sucks now?

dejo
Apr 19, 2006, 12:01 AM
Oh please. Apple computers are manufactured in the same Asian cheapshops as the other PC makers.

Yeah, but they are manufactured to Apple's specifications, even quality-wise. If they are not able to consistently meet those specs, they lose their contract.

Peyton
Apr 19, 2006, 12:20 AM
So? A Dell is can be marketted to be "Proudly engineered by Americans for America" as well.

What's so distinctive about California? Last I checked even the movies that are spawned from that place sucks like there is no tomorrow, and the movie industry is crying all day about how people don't go to theatres anymore.

I suppose Apples are designed in that same kind of climate too? Previously good but sucks now?

um... I don't know which, or how many different emoticons I can use to indicate that I am joking...:) :confused: :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :p ;) :D :o