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idiolect
Apr 19, 2006, 11:18 AM
Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. Quick question about the paid Apple Developer membership. A lot of people have alluded to a substantial developer discount on one system a year, or something like that. Anyhow, I'm thinking about joining and putting the discount towards a MBP, but haven't been able to find the specific discount value on the web. Anyone have any information, or general comments about the plusses/minuses of joining the dev program? Thanks! :)



Peace
Apr 19, 2006, 11:24 AM
Here you go :

http://developer.apple.com/faq/hwpp.html

Sdashiki
Apr 19, 2006, 11:30 AM
You mean the STUDENT DEVELOPER discount.

The developer discount is the same, but alas last I checked if you are NOT a student in any capacity, to become a Developer, and have access to the discount, you must pay the membership fee:

$500 - $3500 a year

student is $99/year

Subiklim
Apr 19, 2006, 11:45 AM
You mean the STUDENT DEVELOPER discount.

student is $99/year

So what are the discounts that student developers get?

Abulia
Apr 19, 2006, 12:07 PM
So what are the discounts that student developers get?The same as linked above, they just get a once-per-lifetime discount. Once you use it, its gone.

Normal developers do not have this restriction.

Subiklim
Apr 19, 2006, 12:40 PM
The same as linked above, they just get a once-per-lifetime discount. Once you use it, its gone.

Normal developers do not have this restriction.

Perhaps I'm mentally retarted, but I don't see anywhere on that site a statement of the monetary value of the discount.

Abulia
Apr 19, 2006, 12:45 PM
Perhaps I'm mentally retarted, but I don't see anywhere on that site a statement of the monetary value of the discount.Well if you take a few moments to follow the links (http://developer.apple.com/membership/usa.html) you'll find the ADC Store.

Demon Hunter
Apr 19, 2006, 01:12 PM
The $3500/yr developers also get pre-release software. :rolleyes:

dejo
Apr 19, 2006, 01:23 PM
The $3500/yr developers also get pre-release software. :rolleyes:

So do the ADC Select ($500/yr) members: ADC Select Membership (http://developer.apple.com/membership/select.html)

Select Members are enrolled in the ADC Software Seeding Program, giving you immediate access, as often as needed, to the latest pre-release software on the Downloads area of the ADC Member Site.

idiolect
Apr 20, 2006, 09:29 AM
Thanks all! Those links contained exactly what I was looking for... basically, confirmation that it costs the same to enroll in ADC and get a MBP using the discount as it would to simply purchase the MBP outright.

Abulia
Apr 20, 2006, 11:06 AM
Thanks all! Those links contained exactly what I was looking for... basically, confirmation that it costs the same to enroll in ADC and get a MBP using the discount as it would to simply purchase the MBP outright.If you qualify for the education discount there is little benefit in joining for *just* the ADC discount. If you can't get the education discount, the ADC discount is a bit more compelling.

Personally, I like the free OS updates; they've sent me two copies of Tiger since joining, allowing me to sell my retail package. :)

Sdashiki
Apr 20, 2006, 11:57 AM
the Student Developer Discount is good in the following case:

you are buying a high prices desktop or laptop

If by spending $99 for the "privilege" to shop at the ADC store, with discount, you get to save $500+ on your desktop, then so be it. The higher the price of the Mac the higher the discount, of course.

Saving a net amount of $400+ is a good thing.

idiolect
Apr 20, 2006, 01:08 PM
I'm not a student, so I don't qualify for the low price of $99. A friend of mine is in the ADC program and I've always been envious of the freebies and documentation he got in the mail, so I'm still leaning towards it and a nice laptop to match. Thanks again for everyone's comments!

gleepskip
Apr 27, 2006, 12:30 PM
With an MSDN membership, developers have access to a vast array of Microsoft software, including Office, SQL Server, and others.

Is the same true of ADC? What software, aside from OS X, is available to ADC members?

MacMan93
May 10, 2006, 11:07 PM
I don't think micro$oft sends you a copy of Vista when you sign up for MSDN, do they? ;) Unfourtunatly I'm not old enought to get the $500 package but the free package gives you a pretty good amount of development help.(I wouldn't want the student one.1 computer discount for LIFE!?!...I would be buying apple's next greatest creation as it came out!) I can only imagine that the Select and Premier have many more goodies....and it all gets mailed to you on CDs/DVDs....no cloging up bandwidth.

jsw
May 10, 2006, 11:13 PM
With an MSDN membership, developers have access to a vast array of Microsoft software, including Office, SQL Server, and others.

Is the same true of ADC? What software, aside from OS X, is available to ADC members?
Essentially, nothing. The developers get early access to OS changes and new OS versions. Almost everything else is freely available at developer.apple.com. But, yes, the disks in the mail are much easier to use.

You pay for the discount, the OS advance peeks, and the testing access (if you live near such a site).
I don't think micro$oft sends you a copy of Vista when you sign up for MSDN, do they? ;)
Actually, they do.. well, the current testing versions.

MacMan93
May 10, 2006, 11:25 PM
I kinda ment that as a joke.....I heard that Micro$oft has stripped quite a few features off of 'Vista'......so much (other than the Mac OS X interface copy!?!?) that it is now (in my book) M$ Windows XP Sevice pack 3......not cough...OSX wannabe....cough 'Vista' :D

caveman_uk
May 11, 2006, 03:09 AM
Essentially, nothing.
Aside from OS X - nothing but you do get the current shipping versions of Mac OS client shipped to you and download access to Mac OS Server. So there's a reasonable level of value there. I wish they bundled Remote Desktop...that'd be really useful.

Link (http://developer.apple.com/membership/promo.html)

Palad1
May 11, 2006, 07:08 AM
With an MSDN membership, developers have access to a vast array of Microsoft software, including Office, SQL Server, and others.

Is the same true of ADC? What software, aside from OS X, is available to ADC members?

Software-wise, not much, as everything is already opened to the public (Thank You Apple!)

BUT

You get a kickass Apple Developer T-Shirt :D

It's the only geek tshirt my g/f lets me wear in public :p