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Moshiiii
May 7, 2006, 10:00 PM
Greetings :D !
I just purchased Thinking with Type (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568984480/sr=8-1/qid=1147056888/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8648438-4404148?%5Fencoding=UTF8) and How to be a Graphic Designer: without loosing your soul (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568985592/qid=1147057000/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-8648438-4404148?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) from amazon.com. Both seem like really good books, anyone read these?

What are your favorite/most inspirational Digital Design books you have purchases :confused: ?



gwimby
May 8, 2006, 11:30 AM
By far the book: tellmewhy by karolssonwilker inc.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568984162/ref=sr_11_1/104-4236991-1348740?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Blue Velvet
May 8, 2006, 01:25 PM
Forget the digital part.

Design is design, regardless of the medium visual problem-solving with a saucy dash of client arse-licking.

Anyway. Recommended type books are:

The Elements of Typographic Style Robert Bringhurst
Reviving the Rules of Typography David Jury

Enjoy.

aricher
May 8, 2006, 01:29 PM
I have too many design books to even pick a favorite. Recently I've been reading Toothpicks and Logos by John Heskett and Digital Design Business Practices by Liane Sebastian. Both very good.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0192804448/sr=8-1/qid=1147112889/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5968325-3105543?%5Fencoding=UTF8

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581150865/sr=8-1/qid=1147112952/ref=sr_1_1/104-5968325-3105543?%5Fencoding=UTF8

belair
May 8, 2006, 01:54 PM
I always liked this one when still in school:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3931126366/sr=8-2/qid=1147114281/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-4223049-0025626?%5Fencoding=UTF8

This is a great book a friend of mine did. There's actually a photo of me in it. Wow. Visual scratching rocks.
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/291056536X/qid%3D1147114431/402-8776453-1764950

thevessels
Jun 18, 2006, 02:17 AM
i wanna revive this thread . i just ordered " how to a graphic designer without .. " and " about face : .. "

im pretty excited .

any one else have some books or other inspiring material to share ?

mouchoir
Jun 18, 2006, 07:49 AM
Two books which really inspire me every time I pick them up are 'Tibor', a book on the late great Tibor Kalman, and 'Sagmeister', Stefan Sagmeister's book on his work.

They are two designers who manage to surprise and delight with every piece of work, and give me a reminder to approach things a bit differently every now and then.

Oh, and the books themselves are beautiful too.

20rogersc
Jun 18, 2006, 08:55 AM
http://www.doverbooks.co.uk/images/100/th_1856693864.jpg
The Art of Saying Hello (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1856693864/026-6667975-7582867)

On business cards, but you can get so much more from it.

::20ROGERSC::

primalman
Jun 18, 2006, 08:36 PM
I am teaching Thinking With Type this fall, along with the standard reference bible, Elements of Typographic style. Thinking has to be one of the best intro level books I have seen in years, maybe the best. Plus, the resources she makes available are just top-notch. I can't wait!

CanadaRAM
Jun 18, 2006, 09:05 PM
Well, I am a geek, not a designer, so my favorites The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by E. Tufte. Also Homepage Usability by Jakob Nielsen.

And going way, way back to my first experience of typography, the Letraset Rub-Down Type* Catalog. I used to wheedle the art store in town until they'd give me a catalog, then spend hours upon hours with tracing paper making words and alphabets in different fonts.

BV: Does that date me, or what? I say in my defence, I was 12 years old at the time.






* Oh dear, you're actually reading the footnote, aren't you? Which means you were probably born after 1980
This is, unfortunately, another "before there were computers" story. Letraset produced alphabetic sheets of characters, each sheet in one of many different fonts (plain and fancy). They consisted of a translucent carrier sheet, and individual letters in a rubbery vinyl film. You carefully positioned the sheet over your paper, and rubbed the sheet to transfer the letter onto the paper, where it stuck. You the repeated this, letter by letter, until you had formed the word, title or sign that you wanted to create. If you rubbed a letter down off-centre or crooked, you could scrape it off and try another one. This was type fonts for the masses, circa 1970. In the late 80's Letraset discontinued the rubdown sheets, and released a series of Postscript typefont libraries. They also took a run at producing image editing (Image Studio) font manipulation (LetraStudio) and page layout software (Ready, Set, Go), in competition with Adobe, Aldus and the fledgling Quark. The Letraset suite in its day was quite advanced, and sold as a bundle like Adobe CS is today. They gave up after a couple of years. Still have my dealer demo copies around here somewhere, just don't have a System 6.0 machine set up to run them on.

Blue Velvet
Jun 19, 2006, 01:07 AM
And going way, way back to my first experience of typography, the Letraset Rub-Down Type* Catalog. I used to wheedle the art store in town until they'd give me a catalog, then spend hours upon hours with tracing paper making words and alphabets in different fonts.

BV: Does that date me, or what? I say in my defence, I was 12 years old at the time.

The Letraset Catalogue was a set text for my first year of design school, included in the list of stuff you needed for the first week of first term. :D

Coheebuzz
Jun 19, 2006, 06:06 AM
Sagmeister's Made You Look
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1861542747/ref=nosim/102-7164285-2261767?camp=2025&dev-t=D26XECQVNV6NDQ&link%5Fcode=xm2&n=283155)

It took me a couple of months to track it down cause it was always out of stock, but it's worth the hunt. It seems to be in stock now so hurry! It doesn't focus on digital design and like Blue Velvet said, design is design regardless the medium. However it will give you a clear idea of the fundamentals behind design and how you should approach things to make a design that works. I have tons of design books, some of them costing over $100 and this is the only single book that taught me something valuable.

I would tell you to stay away from books that just showcase a designers work without explaining things, because graphic design is a discipline closely associated with marketing and generally the commerce. So most of the times the goal of a design is to make money for the client and not decorate a wall. You should learn the theory first!

Lau
Jun 19, 2006, 06:15 AM
Well, I am a geek, not a designer, so my favorites The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by E. Tufte. Also Homepage Usability by Jakob Nielsen.

And going way, way back to my first experience of typography, the Letraset Rub-Down Type* Catalog. I used to wheedle the art store in town until they'd give me a catalog, then spend hours upon hours with tracing paper making words and alphabets in different fonts.

BV: Does that date me, or what? I say in my defence, I was 12 years old at the time.


The library I worked in a couple of years ago gave me their old Letraset catalogue for free. It's probably my most prized possession...:D Funnily enough, when I was at primary school, I also had a book with loads of Letraset-style type in in it, and also used to spend hours tracing and drawing them. Why it took me so long to work out I wanted to be a designer I will never know...

mouchoir
Jun 19, 2006, 07:32 AM
Sagmeister's Made You Look
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1861542747/ref=nosim/102-7164285-2261767?camp=2025&dev-t=D26XECQVNV6NDQ&link%5Fcode=xm2&n=283155)

Good choice! :D (And it's the same book I mentioned a few posts earlier, only you managed to get the full title in, and give a link good effort)

iGav
Jun 19, 2006, 08:40 AM
Process; A Tomato Project, The Bread and Butter Stone, Two Times Intro, RAy-GUn Out Of Control.

There's a few Swiss design books too, but I don't find them especially inspirational as such, more... informative.

ATD
Jun 19, 2006, 12:59 PM
And going way, way back to my first experience of typography, the Letraset Rub-Down Type* Catalog. I used to wheedle the art store in town until they'd give me a catalog, then spend hours upon hours with tracing paper making words and alphabets in different fonts.

BV: Does that date me, or what? I say in my defence, I was 12 years old at the time.



I used Letraset in HS and college. When I got out into the field we used Chromatex which was a make it yourself style Letraset. We would send out for the type at a typesetter, then paste it up and get a film neg shot. Then we would custom mix paints with a few primary colors and a PMS book as a guide. The paint was then drawn down with a metal rod on a sheet of acetate followed by a draw down of a exposure mixture. We would expose the film neg and this sheet together and then wipe off the unexposed areas. One last pass with a glue and you were ready to rub down some colored type/logo on a comp. Some places I worked were not working that way, instead we hand cut type out of color PMS sheets.


Computers are a blessing to graphics, old school was a pain in the ass. In my defense I look very young for my age. :D :D

tobefirst
Jun 19, 2006, 01:55 PM
For inspiration, I REALLY like I.D. magazine's annual design review issue, which usually hits newsstands in August, I believe. It's expensive (about $30 US) if you don't have a subscription, but WELL worth the cost with all the ideas contained within.

ATD
Jun 19, 2006, 02:03 PM
As far as inspirational design books, ones about/by April Greiman, El Lissitzky, Paul Rand, Helmut Krone, Neville Brody to name a few. Not too much of those are digital, just great design.

jive
Jun 19, 2006, 04:40 PM
Art Of Rebellion


It's a graffiti book but it only focuses on stickers and is absolutly brilliant.

Sweetfeld28
Jun 19, 2006, 08:57 PM
Not really a book, but a periodical i get, is Communication Arts (http://www.commarts.com/).

Other Magazines: HOW (http://www.howdesign.com/), Print (http://www.printmag.com/)


Great magazines for any designer.

CanadaRAM
Jun 19, 2006, 09:17 PM
Funnily enough, when I was at primary school, I also had a book with loads of Letraset-style type in in it, and also used to spend hours tracing and drawing them. Why it took me so long to work out I wanted to be a designer I will never know...
Hah! Kindred spirits.

My first "design" commission was $5 I won in junior high school in a competition for the design of a commemorative school button. Hand-lettered, of course. Never pursued a career in it though. Went into sales and then computers.

ouphe
Jun 19, 2006, 09:22 PM
I think 'The Elements of Typographic Style' is hands down the best resource for typography. As for other elements of design...it depends on what kind of book you're looking for (inspirational, technical, etc). Steven Heller is the mac-daddy of graphic design writing, so he's a good person to look up if you're ever short on reading material.

-Colin

joepunk
Jun 19, 2006, 10:42 PM
Not really a book, but a periodical i get, is Communication Arts (http://www.commarts.com/).

Other Magazines: HOW (http://www.howdesign.com/), Print (http://www.printmag.com/)


Great magazines for any designer.
I mostly just go to the library to read/look at these periodicals. But, last Fall I along with my senior design class sent in checks for our own subscriptions to Print and still have not received a copy. We were told that it takes the people of Print about a year to start processing anything.

Another recommendation for Sagmeister.

Getting it Printed, Idea Index and other books by Jim Krause, Handbook on Pricing and Ethical Guidelines.

macaddict23
Jun 20, 2006, 02:25 AM
Wow, no one has mentioned Before & After magazine (www.bamagazine.com). As a person who has no formal design training, it's the ultimate design resource.

frankblundt
Jun 20, 2006, 05:02 AM
Well, I am a geek, not a designer, so my favorites The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by E. Tufte. Also Homepage Usability by Jakob Nielsen.

Amen. No home should be without them.
or Ways of Seeing, John Berger

ah Letraset, the memories.

1. And footnotes (The Footnote - Anthony Grafton, yes there's a whole book about them..) - I always read footnotes, but i thought that was because I was born before 1980

iGav
Jun 20, 2006, 06:07 AM
I also had a book with loads of Letraset-style type in in it, and also used to spend hours tracing and drawing them.

It wasn't a Mecanorma book was it??? :D

I spent hours labouring over the pages of this (http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-10704369-_JM) with a .1 and lots of patience. :D

Lau
Jun 20, 2006, 06:12 AM
It wasn't a Mecanorma book was it??? :D

I spent hours labouring over the pages of this (http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-10704369-_JM) with a .1 and lots of patience. :D

No, it was this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0868961760/026-1361639-1705263?v=glance&n=266239). I can't find a picture, but it was really fab and 80s and tacky, and looking back, had a good mix of Helvetica and the like, and Cooper Black and Microgramma Bold Extended. I rather liked Microgramma Bold Extended...:D

CanadaRAM
Jun 20, 2006, 06:31 AM
Ah, the perils of infontuation.

Many hours with calligraphy nibs & india ink practicing "Old English" and uncial styles.

Lau
Jun 20, 2006, 06:33 AM
Ah, the perils of infontuation.

Many hours with calligraphy nibs & india ink practicing "Old English" and uncial styles.

Ooh, I went through a phase of starting to learn calligraphy as well. Unfortunately, me and large quantities of black ink don't mix well. :D

CanadaRAM
Jun 20, 2006, 08:02 AM
Ooh, I went through a phase of starting to learn calligraphy as well. Unfortunately, me and large quantities of black ink don't mix well. :D
... your hair used to be blonde, right?

;)

Lau
Jun 20, 2006, 08:07 AM
... your hair used to be blonde, right?

;)

I know, I had to become a goth with a black painted room in my teenage years out of necessity...:D

technicolor
Jun 20, 2006, 08:50 AM
Dimensional Typography

well anything by Abbot Miller and Ellen Lupton

primalman
Jun 20, 2006, 09:25 AM
…well anything by Abbot Miller and Ellen Lupton

Second this

And the Print and Communication arts mags. As well, if you can find it, CMYK, Eye [UK], Novum [Germany I think] and Graphis [but not as good as 15 years ago]. But in t he US, Print and CA are the standard reads.

I would look at How occasionally, but I prefer the mags that concentrate on "Why". Much better focus.

thevessels
Jun 22, 2006, 11:11 AM
Wow, no one has mentioned Before & After magazine (www.bamagazine.com). As a person who has no formal design training, it's the ultimate design resource.
awwwesome link man . thanks !

klymr
Mar 11, 2008, 04:59 PM
Bringing back the dead...

Any other fantastic design books that you all pull inspiration from? I think I might be taking a trip to the book store after work today. Just wondering if there was anything else to look at/for while there.


EDIT:

Well, I ran across The Elements of Typographic Design at Border's and just about bought it. Then I decided to check out amazon.com on my iPhone and found it for a lot less. I'm going to see if my brother still has an amazon.com prime membership. Another book that I liked was Making and Breaking the Grid: A Graphic Design Layout Workshop by Timothy Samara. It seemed pretty informative. That is only like $16 on amazon, so I'll most likely order it as well.

I have also thought about ordering Sagmeister: Made You Look, but I'm not so sure. If someone would like to shed some light on how the book is, that'd be great. I think that might be a good start. What do you all say?

bocomo
Mar 12, 2008, 01:04 PM
ahhh, the good? old days!

letraset, ruling pens, non-repro blue pencils, proportion wheels, ruby lith, etc.

it's great to know how easy we have it these days...

:)

pcypert
Mar 17, 2009, 09:47 PM
I was just about to post Making and Breaking the Grid by Timothy Samara. I love this book. Gonna check out his Type book too, just to see. He has another more "general" design book that has all the same grid stuff as the grid book but without multiple pages of examples.... could be nice for someone wanting more general info, or a go-to visual guide without tons of examples.

Paul

unid
Mar 19, 2009, 06:27 AM
The art of looking sideways by Alan Fletcher
Maeda @ media by John Maeda (http://www.maedastudio.com)
Hand Job: A catalog of type by Michael Perry
An essay on typography by Eric Gill
Stop stealing sheep and find out how type works by Erik Spiekermann
The elements of colour by Johannes Itten

adameels
Mar 19, 2009, 11:51 AM
Situating: Young Architects 7 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Situating-Kochanowski-Roewuarchitecture-Architecture-Linoldhamoffice/dp/1568985738/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1237481252&sr=1-1). I loved all the different drawing styles and collages presented and the level of work is not too far off what I should be aiming for next year. Of course I didn't pay that much shown on Amazon.

primalman
Mar 19, 2009, 03:57 PM
Sketchbooks: The Hidden Art of Designers, Illustrators and Creatives.