Apple Event on Thursday May 18th, 2006?

[ImNoSuperMan]

Anybody who can wait three months will be glad they have 64bit architecture one year from the purchase. Just watch.

Oh yes. Watch I will.

T minus 84 days to liftoff.

countdown begins.....:D

[beatle888]

I meant production lines. I agree there will be some Inventory that will keep it alive for a few more months. Certainly.


i dont know, i think it has to be motivated by competition and demand. i dont think apple for instance would of had any problem putting out a really nice wide format iPod video...but they dont have to. why stop selling something that people still buy, unless theres competition, then you'll have to in order to stay ahead. who knows. i dont even care right now. i'll leave the arguments to you guys.

[DJS1234]

I dunno, I just can't see iBook/Macbooks going to Merom any time soon. The iBook stayed at G3 for a long time after the Powerbook went G4 and this could be repeated with Merom.

Apple need to be able to differentiate their consumer from product lines technically and Yonah/Merom is the best way to do this.

Obviously the Macbook will eventually go Merom, most likely when it goes rev.B at MacWorld '07 but I think it'll hold out till then.

As for the 64bit argument I can't see a 64 bit revolution anytime soon for one plain reason, the 32 bit environment is more than enough for the average consumer, sure for the pro market it would be nice to be able to address for memory (Final Cut would love it) Consumers would see no difference.

I am an Network Admin by trade and remember clearly the release of XP 64bit. The company I was working for had some Athlon64 workstations (Now that is a great processor and years ahead of its time) and the users were waiting for this dramatic performance increase.... it never happened.

Yes Microsoft is planning to ship Exchange 12 as 64bit and kickstart 64bit computing but they do say A LOT of things at Microsoft. Like the Windows Vista database driven filesystem (WinFS Oh! WinFS, where art thou WinFS?) that suprise suprise aint gonna be in the first realease of the OS. Also the 3D GUI that has been boiled down so much there's barely anything left.

The long and the short is that very little happens in computing overnight, mainly because business takes years to react to it. I now work for one of the largest 100 companies in the UK and we only migrated to Exchange 2003 from 5.5 a few months ago! The reason being is that it took over a year of planning, 6 months of virtualized testing and then about 3 months of AD Schema changes and rollout. Business will not go 64 bit overnight, they couldn't do it in a year.

Also Apple will not get themselves in the situation whereby they make the revA Macbook Pro's obselete in a year. How would that look on a balance sheet whereby you have to buy a new unit after a year, so depreciate the cost of the asset over its useful life in the business (In this case $2000 over 12 months) and the TCO on a Macbook is REDICULOUS hence you stop buying Macbook Pro's adn buy a Dell Mobile Workstation, bye bye Apple's Pro business market.

If you wanna wait till August you'll get a Merom based Macbook Pro and very nice it will be too (Faster and longer battery life)

If you wanna wait till January you'll get a Macbook Merom (As above)

If you don't wanna wait you'll get a Yonah Macbook (Hopefully this week!!!!) and it'll do you proud (At least CPU-wise the graphics maybe a sticky area) for all the tasks a consumer notebook is designed for (i-Life and similar apps and maybe some light Photoshop/Video editing work)

Would I buy a Macbook Yonah now - Yes
Would I buy a Macbook Pro Yonah now - Not unless I really really had to

Yonah is a great architecture and Core (Merom) looks even greater, yes Merom is more appealing but Yonah is by no means whatsoever a waste of money today.

It's not always about having the best, just what will do what you want it to do for as long as it can and Yonah is definetly that.

Also to anyone who buys a RevA Merom, come next year there's the Santa Rosa chipset and that will make RevA Meroms look humble in comparison (Start reading up on Robson Cache technology!!!!) oh yeah and 802.11n Networking:eek:

All the above in my humble opinion!

[boncellis]

With regard to, and I hesitate to use this word, the "debate" on whether to wait for a 64 bit CPU in an effort to future-proof a personal computer, I just want to know who it was that proclaimed "It's so stupendous living in this tube" in this forum? I've seen it quoted in somebody's signature--that person deserves a medal. ;)

I am waiting to buy a Merom Mini, but not because I think the Yonah version will be outdated or obsolete. I'm waiting because technology triggers a certain level or paranoia in me. :o As long as I can laugh at myself, I guess.

For the record, I tend to agree with BRLawyer. I will tote my G4 PB around until it dies. Not because I can't afford to upgrade, but because it does what I need and I have an unhealthy attachment to it.

[AidenShaw]

Exactly. Just dont understand why some people simply refuse to admit the facts. And to top it off they are talkin bout 20% extra power and stuff which`ll be of no importance to average Joe.
It's not about 20-50% faster - it's about no software available in 2 years.

I've said many times that IMO it was a big mistake for Apple to ship any Yonah systems. They should have waited for Merom, and hyped the "all 64-bit" line.

And before you whine about "had to move to faster Intel" - look at Apple's CY05Q4 and CY06Q1 results. Record sales and profits - not a panic situation in the slightest. Maybe the G4 and G5 systems were "dog slow", but they were selling anyway.

Again, IMO, Apple would be smart to kill Yonah ASAP and move to all 64-bit. If the small number of people who bought systems in early 2006 get burned by that, well - as Mr. Spock said "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one".

[aussie_geek]

This is f#cked. I don't care personally but one of my work colleagues is spitting chips. He's had money set aside for a couple of months now... This is destroying my reputation as a Mac geek here...

aussie_geek

[thejadedmonkey]

It's not about 20-50% faster - it's about no software available in 2 years [....] as Mr. Spock said "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one".

Exactily! Many people have G5's, but even more people have G4's, since that's ALL that you could get if you wanted a laptop or sub $1000 desktop.

Companies won't make their software obsolete to the core users (no pun intended) who are still using PPC. In this case, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one".

Granted, I would never buy a PPC mac right now, and I wouldn't buy a $2000 flagship laptop when I know that there's a major CPU upgrade coming out in 4 months, but I would buy a $1000 MacBook because it does what I need it to do, now, I buy it knowing it's not the fastest flagship computer, and I'm not worried that I won't be able to do something on it 5 years from now because of the CPU architecture.

[AidenShaw]

Exactily! Many people have G5's, but even more people have G4's, since that's ALL that you could get if you wanted a laptop or sub $1000 desktop.

Companies won't make their software obsolete to the core users (no pun intended) who are still using PPC. In this case, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one".
no one is suggesting that Merom will kill off 32-bit PowerPC - there's a large base of customers for this old architecture.

The discussion is about the potential for 64-bit x86 (x64) to very quickly render 32-bit x86 obsolete - since it is possible that very shortly Apple will drop all x86 and have a pure x64 lineup. If Apple do that, then soon there won't be enough x86 MacIntels for 3rd party software vendors to even care about makeing fat binaries for x86.

[peharri]

It wasn't so long after the 386 was introduced that 286 users were severely limited for choice. There was a lot that wouldn't run on it. This is a similar architecture shift, and the results will be the same. 3 years is a long time in computing. Anybody who can wait three months will be glad they have 64bit architecture one year from the purchase. Just watch.

The 80386 was launced in 1986. Windows 3.0, arguably the first popular operating system to make use of the '386, wasn't released until 1990. Before Windows 3.0, pretty much all mass market apps ran on the 8086, and relatively few applications made use of '286 or '386 features. Even after the release of Windows 3.0, most applications requirement for a 386 or better had to do with a combination of processor performance and Windows's own requirements.

The situation's even more positive than that. There are no compelling reasons to go 64 bit at the moment. It'll happen, but not yet. Certainly not in the next three years. Meanwhile, coding for the 8086 in the 1980s was a PITA. You were forced to use 64k pages, and most applications needed considerably more than 64k of memory. The flat address spaces with 24/32 bit index registers offered by the protected modes of the 80286 and its successors were extremely desirable for the sake of writing simple, easy to program, applications.

I seriously doubt that Core 2 Duos being 64 bit is going to mean a sudden end to 32 bit computing. People who write 64 bit code for the next three years are usually needlessly locking out a market they can support by checking a check box. And this is especially true if the MacBook has regular 32-bit Core Duos, not Core 2 Duos. If every mass market machine in 2006 from Apple has 32 bit Cores, any developer requiring a 64 bit Intel machine had better have a good justification for doing so.

[AidenShaw]

This is destroying my reputation as a Mac geek here...
You should have done your homework.

Had you seen the potential for Merom to destroy the value of Yonah-based systems - you would have been able to give your colleagues useful advice.

Now, they see you as a simple fanboi...

[AidenShaw]

....If every mass market machine in 2006 from Apple has 32 bit Cores, any developer requiring a 64 bit Intel machine had better have a good justification for doing so.
Does a 20% performance improvement to stay even with Windows 64-bit apps count as "good justification"?

[peharri]

Does a 20% performance improvement to stay even with Windows 64-bit apps count as "good justification"?

No, it doesn't, because it's a bogus justification.

The fact that "64 bit" code may run "20% faster" does not, in any way, mean that developers will refuse to generate UBs containing 32 bit code. Developers will continue to write programs in high level languages. They'll compile their applications to run on 64 bit, 32 bit, and PPC systems as normal. At some point, they're likely to drop the PPC binaries, because the endian issues means that there's genuine reason to find maintaining both versions awkward. However, there's not a single reason on Earth for them to not click the "32 bit" binary option.

They do not gain a 20% performance increase by refusing to support 32 bit architectures. They gain a 20% performance increase by supporting 64 bit architectures. You don't have to drop 32 bit support to support 64 bit code.

So, no, "a 20% performance increase" is not justification. That doesn't justify dropping 32 bit code at all. Dropping 32 bit support will not give you a 20% performance increase.

[ImAlwaysRight]

This seems to be a fake, but I'm posting it anyway. I wet my pants at first. (credit to mavherzog for posting in another thread)

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/14/supposed-macbook-ad-accidentally-posted-to-apple-site/

http://www.spymac.com/upload/gallery/2006/05/14/g470580_144981693_d4ad12edcb_o.jpg

[MrCrowbar]

Errr... fake. Just does not like like an Apple made ad. Pretty well done though. Kudos to the one who made it.

[eugenef]

I do not believe at all that there will be a release of a new product. My guess is, before the begining of the new school year.

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

Yeah it's a fake; Apple never advertises the same item twice on the homepage.

[boncellis]

Wow, that is a nice job--worthy of the front page even! One thing, and I might be nitpicking, but there is no mention of the iSight. Apple usually points that out.

Remember how the Mac Mini was supposed to be introduced at MWSF this year but they pushed it back to the special event that made so many people rabid a few weeks later? The store opening could be a sort of makeup for a prior missed date as well...just a thought.

[AidenShaw]

However, there's not a single reason on Earth for them to not click the "32 bit" binary option.
There are at least two reasons not to click the "x86" option - QA and support.

[vccavtech]

my brain is hurting, i've been using a (shhhh) pc and it's nothing like a mac. it doesn't have an intel. instead it has a slugish 900mhz AMD Athlon in it. i prefer amd for pc if anything, but i wont care once i get a mac again. Btw, when will mac start using AMD if ever? or would they have to change everything again? oh, and when will macbooks going to be in store? a week after they are announced or that day?

[iEdd]

Btw, when will mac start using AMD if ever?
When intel can't deliver promised chips. If Apple ever move to AMD (Which they probably won't because Intel has competition and stays up near the top with chip specs), it would be much easier than PPC=>Intel switch because it is still x86 architecture [or x64].
Oh, and when will macbooks going to be in store? A week after they are announced or that day?
My guess is that Apple will like to have them shipping NOW. Steve usually releases the consumer computers as soon as they are announced.

[phatz]

...I just want to know who it was that proclaimed "It's so stupendous living in this tube" in this forum? I've seen it quoted in somebody's signature--that person deserves a medal. ;)

Trey Anastasio? :cool:
What's that got to do with buying hardware?

[sunilraman]

ALL WILL BE REVEALED MUahha hahahahah

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i293/sunilraman/steve_jobs_000.jpg

[MrCrowbar]

[...]
Steve usually releases the consumer computers as soon as they are announced.

OMG, you're right about that. I can't remember a consumer product not shipping immediately after beeing announced. For example: iMac "shipping today", Macbook Pro shipping in a month, Mac Mini "shipping today". This has been going on for some time actually, the consumer products ship immediately. So it's very likely the Macbooks will be in stores the moment they are announced. And this means, if they are announced this week, they should already be on their way to or already in the shops. Did anyone see some boxes? Come one, there must be someone camping in front of an apple store with a 24/7 observation team :rolleyes: .

:p

[gloss]

There are at least two reasons not to click the "x86" option - QA and support.

Straws. Grasping.

[instantane]

When you're in the store and in the search field you type in :

macbook -pro

it shows you ibook g4 12" & 14" and Powerbook G4 12"...

What to think about it ?

[DJS1234]

Does a 20% performance improvement to stay even with Windows 64-bit apps count as "good justification"?

Which Windows 64bit apps would these be? (Not for the reason i'm doubting you, just for the reason i've never seen a Windows package that is 64
bit only except Windows XP 64bit edition which does not make 32bit apps run any faster at all)

[runninmac]

Yeah it's a fake; Apple never advertises the same item twice on the homepage.

They have with the iPod mini, but agreed it is a fake

[mac-x]

so how sure are we on the speculated dates again?
Maybe a silent release on tuesday
The shop opening is a fact for friday, but what about that press event thursday? i havent seen any invite yet, or heard other sites about it.
So is this even real at all?
If theres nothing this week, or next tuesday.... im buying MBP :p

[ImNoSuperMan]

then soon there won't be enough x86 MacIntels for 3rd party software vendors to even care about makeing fat binaries for x86.

Last time I checked x64 was backward compatible with x86. But not the vice versa. So do you really think ,in 2 years time, we`ll be having x64 only versions of regular apps such as Office, Browsers, media players etc. Will it be monetarily viable for these companies to ignore that much of User Base. ie all the people who bought a Mac in 2006. And really, tell me what difference would Merom make when using such apps? Will it really make a page in word open .003 seconds faster? Coz rite now it takes less than a second.

No... Dont count PS/FCP etc. No one is buying a MB for that purpose at all. If someone really wants to have such high computing then they`ll go for a MBP, that too if they neeed a portable solution only. And would you really do such stuff on a 13 incher?

This is the best option IMO for most of us who really need to use pro apps- A Merom iMac plus a 13" Yonah MB

Cost of a Merom iMac+Yonah MB = Bout 20% extra than a single MBP as powerful as the iMac.

Benefits:- A powerful comp at home/work when you need it. A small cute Lappy for your portable needs.

Disadvantages. You wont be able to edit that 100 MB Photo on your 13" MB:p . Neither will you be able to edit those over 60 GB uncompressed videos and compress them to fit on a single DVD:eek: . OMG. Thats way too much. Hey everyone. Please dont by a Yonah MB at all. It wont be able to do all this stuff. Please wait for a Merom. Yes it`ll make one hell of a difference. Paired with GMA or x1400 with 64vram(at very best), your MB will definitely ROCKKK.:eek:

[Arne]

I still remember when I baught the Notebook I'm typing this message on, nearly two years ago. It's a Fujitsu Siemens and it has a Pentium M with 1.7ghz. Everyone told me I should wait for AMD64-Notebooks to come out because they were going to be more compatible in future and WAY faster. I remember those people purchasing Pentium M-Notebooks a year later because they just saw, that there were no transition comeing anytime soon and that there was no need to spend a lot more money on an AMD64. Ok, I know, Apple might handle things different, but they don't have any reason to drop support on 32bit-Machines in future, just because they must have noticed that 64bit is not going to provide any advantage for consumers at the moment. Otherwise they would have never released Yonah-based Macs.

I agree, there might come a time when there are no more CD-Macs available but this time is not coming very soon. They can announce C2D as a por-feature and leave the consumer-models using CD. That way, they can let C2D appear as a big feature for the consumer-line as soon as there is something better for the pros to use. Don't forget that they will want to give you regular small updates instead of making big steps, because that way they would run out of possibilities if they run into problems again as they did with the G5.

(excuse my english, I'm not a native speaker..)

[DimFlicker]

This procesor discussion is out of control.
It can't make that much of a difference. If it did Apple would wait. People will be pissed if they spend there money on something they've been waiting on and then Apple just upgrades the product 3 months later at the same price. No way, its bad business.

and I love this "can't" talk. If I hadn't tried to do all the things everyone said my 3yr old Pentium 4 couldn't handle.. well, I mean you have to talk nice to her, but she does it.

Not to be mean, but I wish you guys would shup up. Your discouraging people you hardly know from buying a product they have been waiting for for a long time... and chances are, they won't ever know the difference in the processor.

[peharri]

There are at least two reasons not to click the "x86" option - QA and support.
That goes equally for clicking the ai64 and PPC options. But for the next three years, you know they're going to click the latter. The fact is that as long as the programs are written in a high level language, the behaviour of ia32 and ia64 binaries should be identical.

Indeed, given the ia32 version will run on the ia64, you can bet that anyone who's bothered about QA and support issues is going to lose the supposed 20% speed-up, not the (at worst, assuming Apple just goes 64 bit right away, tomorrow, which they will not as putting low cost 32 bit CPUs in low and medium end machines will help with value differentiation) 10-20% of Intel Mac users.

[ImNoSuperMan]

One more thing I`d like to say. Ah... I mean Post.

I couldn`t agree more with "Multi and Aiden" inc if this thread was bout MBP or iMac instead. Really. It seems very advisable to stop buying Yonah MBP right now. Waiting another 3 months will definitely be beneficial. Also considering the problems with current MBPs there shouldn`t be any reason to buy a MBP now at all. And also since the design of current MBP is unchanged for at least 3-4 years now,you can also up your hopes for that too this Aug.

[mac-x]

This procesor discussion is out of control.
Agreed, this is about the ?speculated? thursday event.
And correct me if im wrong but most people here really are 'geeks' with apple, and are expecting a 13inch cheaper but same specs as the MBP.
So basicly a 13,3 MBP.
Facts:
- normal users for the upcoming macbooks,
- doesnt know apple comes out with an update on the ibook
- doesnt check rumorsites 24/7 since last year
- normal users dont care about 32/64bit.
- users will do research as in looking at websites/ask in store, and buy what they need, when they need it

So all those pro users in here please stop speculating about not even buying an unreleased product because something better will come someday...
Your scaring away the normal users that did reach rumorsites.

[DJS1234]

Last time I checked x64 was backward compatible with x86. But not the vice versa. So do you really think ,in 2 years time, we`ll be having x64 only versions of regular apps such as Office, Browsers, media players etc. Will it be monetarily viable for these companies to ignore that much of User Base. ie all the people who bought a Mac in 2006. And really, tell me what difference would Merom make when using such apps? Will it really make a page in word open .003 seconds faster? Coz rite now it takes less than a second.

No... Dont count PS/FCP etc. No one is buying a MB for that purpose at all. If someone really wants to have such high computing then they`ll go for a MBP, that too if they neeed a portable solution only. And would you really do such stuff on a 13 incher?

This is the best option IMO for most of us who really need to use pro apps- A Merom iMac plus a 13" Yonah MB

Cost of a Merom iMac+Yonah MB = Bout 20% extra than a single MBP as powerful as the iMac.

Benefits:- A powerful comp at home/work when you need it. A small cute Lappy for your portable needs.

Disadvantages. You wont be able to edit that 100 MB Photo on your 13" MB:p . Neither will you be able to edit those over 60 GB uncompressed videos and compress them to fit on a single DVD:eek: . OMG. Thats way too much. Hey everyone. Please dont by a Yonah MB at all. It wont be able to do all this stuff. Please wait for a Merom. Yes it`ll make one hell of a difference. Paired with GMA or x1400 with 64vram(at very best), your MB will definitely ROCKKK.:eek:

I couldn't agree more (The sums on how much an iMac and Macbook would be compared to a MBP are quite scary!!! The Pro's sure do command a premium!)

[nomad01]

If theres nothing this week, or next tuesday.... im buying MBP :p

I'm already set on geting one... by the end of the week hopefully.

My 12" 1.33 G4 Powerbook did everything I need to do better than my PC does. A MacBook Pro would probably be overkill for my needs. I don't play games. I use Quark and Photoshop but considering the newspaper group I work for has pre-blue and white G3 PowerMacs, I'm pretty sure I'll cope with them running under Rosetta.

Any video editing I do is using Apple apps and I can only hope Apple will continue to support the current architecture.

Plus I'm getting 15 percent discount so it's a no brainer for me.

[DJS1234]

I'm already set on geting one... by the end of the week hopefully.

My 12" 1.33 G4 Powerbook did everything I need to do better than my PC does. A MacBook Pro would probably be overkill for my needs. I don't play games. I use Quark and Photoshop but considering the newspaper group I work for has pre-blue and white G3 PowerMacs, I'm pretty sure I'll cope with them running under Rosetta.

Any video editing I do is using Apple apps and I can only hope Apple will continue to support the current architecture.

Plus I'm getting 15 percent discount so it's a no brainer for me.

I hope you are very happy with your new MBP!

Fingers crossed all the bugs are ironed out now, i haven't read as many new complaints about the thermal paste issue in a while, post up when you get your new arrival and let us know how it goes! (Incidentally are you going for 15" or 17")

[ImAlwaysRight]

This procesor discussion is out of control.
Amen to that.

When the next MacBook rumor comes out later today, ya'll just keep your little 64-bit fantasies confined to this thread. Please, and thank you.

[BCNMacLovr]

"The patience is bitter, but their fruits are candies."

[netdog]

Alright, despite everything I wrote (and still believe), I admit it...I have no patience. If I like the new MacBook, I will place my order immediately upon it being made available assuming that they aren't in stock at the Regent Street Apple Store. Foolish, but given that it is made by Asus, I am expecting 0 revision-A problems.

[ImAlwaysRight]

Multimedia, it's always hard to understand why you act as Aiden's proxy, but this is irrelevant here anyway.Actually, MultiMedia and I are the same person ;) - we just have Multiple IP.address Disorder.

Aiden, you're not pulling any wool over my eyes -- it's pretty obvious when you look at it. Aiden is Multi's cat, and any bloke who would get processor advice from their cat has got to be a bit looney, no? :p Case in point:


Will the iBookIntel jump to Merom right away? IMO if Apple are smart it will.
I second that advice. Bravo for patience and self-control in the face of obsolete "new" products since January. So many reasons to wait, so many willing not to . . . :eek: ... The real world is going to be all 64-bit hardware within 3 months from now.I do believe that by September-October MacBooks will have Merom Core 2 Duo inside.

A man and his cat have their opinion (or is it a cat and his man?), but I'll stick by my prediction that Yonah's will remain in MacBooks into 2007.

[pjkelnhofer]

What a strange Monday... we should be flooded with "New Products Tomorrow" threads, but the Thursday event has thrown a wrench into all that.

While the 32-bit vs. 64-bit discussion has been fun, maybe I will take a couple of days off and see what rumors Wednesday brings...

[netdog]

While the 32-bit vs. 64-bit discussion has been fun, maybe I will take a couple of days off and see what rumors Wednesday brings...

Wednesday's Rumor: MacBook released yesterday

[Atlasland]

I refuse to believe any more rumours until they actually come true.

This is all getting ridiculous.

[pjkelnhofer]

Wednesday's Rumor: MacBook released yesterday

D'oh! In that case, I would just have to catch up on all the threads about why this was both greatest and worse release ever from Apple!
I refuse to believe any more rumours until they actually come true.

This is all getting ridiculous.

In the defense of the rumor mongers, isn't the fact that a lot of them are not true what makes them rumors?

I am off to a bad start on taking days off...

[Nikonshooter]

What do you guys think that the odds are that a 13inch MBpro will be released this week ?

My guess:
13 inch Macbkook pro : 80%
13 inch Macbook : 40%

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

They have with the iPod mini, but agreed it is a fake

I didn't know that; sorry :(

(Thanks for the info)

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

What do you guys think that the odds are that a 13inch MBpro will be released this week ?

My guess:
13 inch Macbkook pro : 80%
13 inch Macbook : 40%

So there's like a 20% chance that they'll come out with two seperate products...?

I predict a 98% chance of a 12-inch, 13-inch, or 14-inch Macbook before next July and a 2% chance of a 13-inch MacBook Pro before Friday.

EDIT: could we add this post to the front page, I believe it is terrificly credible.

[ImAlwaysRight]

I refuse to believe any more rumours until they actually come true.
Then you don't want www.macrumors.com, you want www.apple.com.

My gosh, I've checked the rumor sites 7x today already, and it is not even noon! New MacBook rumors, PLEASE!

[Nikonshooter]

I based my predictions on these thoughts :
- the 12inch PB was one of the big sellers for Apple and should be replaced.
- there are too much activities this week just to open a store in NYC
- if the macbook is relesed the 12inch PB would be slower than the consumer model.

What are they going to tell the press on thursday : "Hey we will open the new store tomorrow." Seems stupid to me.
The press would be present friday at the opening anyway.

[Nikonshooter]

What does Apple NEED to introduce :
- A <15 inch MBpro for the mobile pro's.
- The macbook as a consumer model ( before July shopping season and as a graduation gift )

I went to the local store today because i am really in need of a MBpro but 15 inch is too big as a mobile photographer and the rep said that the 12inch PB was out of stock and wouldn't be restocked so ............

[macjizz]

I figure the new Macbook's coming out tomorrow will cost (in Canadian funds) more than $949 but less than $2299.

$949 is the Canadian starting price of the dual-core Mac Mini, and $2299 is the Canadian starting price of the 15" MBP.

Makes sense, no? What I'd like to know is if the cost to pimp-out the Macbook will take it beyond the 15" MBP pricing....

Hmmm...

[Mersen]

What are they going to tell the press on thursday : "Hey we will open the new store tomorrow." Seems stupid to me.
The press would be present friday at the opening anyway.

I have to agree, like I stated earlier... its like saying... "Come see what you are coming to see tomorrow..." Just doesnt make sense

IMHO It would make better sense for Apple to show the press the Macbook that will be sold the next day at the grand-opening. Could you imagine how many people that would bring to the store. I know the looky-lou crowd will be big enough, but you could you imagine looky-lous PLUS Macbook purchasers? (Of course this is assuming that the macbook will be available for immediate purchase, which according to previous postings, seems likely since its the pattern that Apple has had with its consumer end models.)

[jimN]

This seems to be a fake, but I'm posting it anyway. I wet my pants at first. (credit to mavherzog for posting in another thread)

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/14/supposed-macbook-ad-accidentally-posted-to-apple-site/


There's a guy claiming credit for the macbook 'ad' on the think secret forums.

[filterban]

I have to agree, like I stated earlier... its like saying... "Come see what you are coming to see tomorrow..." Just doesnt make sense

IMHO It would make better sense for Apple to show the press the Macbook that will be sold the next day at the grand-opening. Could you imagine how many people that would bring to the store. I know the looky-lou crowd will be big enough, but you could you imagine looky-lous PLUS Macbook purchasers? (Of course this is assuming that the macbook will be available for immediate purchase, which according to previous postings, seems likely since its the pattern that Apple has had with its consumer end models.)

Yep. This is definitely the most plausible reasoning as to why the MacBooks will be released on Thursday. Apple will want media coverage, but they also will want to not let them down. The new flagship store is already a big deal.

Whether or not I believe that MacBooks are coming this week is another story. I want a small, powerful Mactel laptop. I've been drooling for awhile now, and every time that the rumor sites say "Next Tuesday" it makes me despair even more.

Do any of us know? No. But at least we know that Apple will have the press there. And we know that they are already in production. And we know that Apple goofed on their web site breadcrumbs 10 days ago. So, the signs definitely are pointing to Thursday; the question is, what will ThinkSecret make up as their excuse when we don't see a MacBook on Tuesday?

ThinkSecret lost their inside source with the Apple lawsuit, and they are still publishing rumors but they really don't have any basis in reality. That much is obvious.

[cherfizzle]

here's hoping for a macbook without integrated graphics.

*crosses fingers*
what exactly is that??

[Josias]

There's a guy claiming credit for the macbook 'ad' on the think secret forums.

It shows pictures of the old iBook, so it's a 100% mockup, yet it looks pretty realistic. Cool!:cool:

[KindredMAC]

This seems to be a fake, but I'm posting it anyway. I wet my pants at first. (credit to mavherzog for posting in another thread)

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/14/supposed-macbook-ad-accidentally-posted-to-apple-site/

http://www.spymac.com/upload/gallery/2006/05/14/g470580_144981693_d4ad12edcb_o.jpg
So you are telling me that Apple is already ditching the Mac Ads in the bottom line ups? That's how I know it's a fake. the iPod HiFi would be gone to make room for hte Mac Ads.

[Peace]

So you are telling me that Apple is already ditching the Mac Ads in the bottom line ups? That's how I know it's a fake. the iPod HiFi would be gone to make room for hte Mac Ads.


what really makes it a fake is the lack of a Mini anywhere on the page.

Since I'm going on the road for a week here :

MacBook :

13.3" wide-screen
Core-Duo 1.6
ATI Radeon X1300
60GB HD ( upgrade to 80 GB )
Combo drive ( upgrade to superdrive )
Firewire400
Airport
2-USB 2.0
Bluetooth
Front Row
Built-in iSight

$1099-1299 depending on BTO options
White or Black

[boncellis]

Trey Anastasio? :cool:
What's that got to do with buying hardware?

It was a joke referring to the catfight going on in this thread. A few people ardently believe that 32 bit processors (Yonah) will be "obsolete" relatively soon...they were the ones I was referring to "living in a tube." I don't blame you for not having waded through the whole thing...

Thanks for the answer, btw. ;)

[ImNoSuperMan]

My gosh, I've checked the rumor sites 7x today already, and it is not even noon! New MacBook rumors, PLEASE!

That`s exactly what I thought when I refreshed the MR home page for the 5th or 6th time in the last 4 hours Atleast a rumor will keeps us busy (and ENTERTAINED) for the next couple of days.:p :D :p :D

[craigsharp@spym]

I just found this website, dont know if anyone else has posted it or not, so sorry if they did, but here it is http://www.coreduoinfo.com/blog/2006/05/15/new-macbook-priced-at-999-and-1299-pictures-leaked/ Looks like a photoshoped pic, but who knows......

[ImAlwaysRight]

Since I'm going on the road for a week here :

MacBook :

13.3" wide-screen
Core-Duo 1.6
ATI Radeon X1300
60GB HD ( upgrade to 80 GB )
Combo drive ( upgrade to superdrive )
Firewire400
Airport
2-USB 2.0
Bluetooth
Front Row
Built-in iSight

$1099-1299 depending on BTO options
White or Black
I'd say that's right on target. Dedicated graphics for sure. Hopefully 128MB. Another upgrade in the high end that would be nice would be faster processor speed @ 1.83GHz, or at least the option to upgrade to 1.83GHz.

Let's all hope the Apple Store will be down at 7AM CT tomorrow morning.

I just found this website, dont know if anyone else has posted it or not, so sorry if they did, but here it is http://www.coreduoinfo.com/blog/2006/05/15/new-macbook-priced-at-999-and-1299-pictures-leaked/ Looks like a photoshoped pic, but who knows......
Another fake. Stretched icons in the Dock. And what color is that, silver? Rumors have it in white. Apple always puts low end Mac from left to right. Also, the differences in specifications for only $300 ($999 vs. $1299) is a bit too much to believe:
- processor: 1.5 solo vs. 1.66 duo
- graphics: integrated vs. Radeon X1300
- video memory: 64MB vs. 128MB
- hard drive: 60GB vs. 80GB
- optical drive: combo vs. SuperDrive

But, me likely. :)

Here's the pict:

http://www.coreduoinfo.com/blog/images/macbook5si.jpg

[bill4588]

I just found this website, dont know if anyone else has posted it or not, so sorry if they did, but here it is http://www.coreduoinfo.com/blog/2006/05/15/new-macbook-priced-at-999-and-1299-pictures-leaked/ Looks like a photoshoped pic, but who knows......
yeah it looks photoshoped. someone at apple could have made this pic just to try and mess with us....or it could be real and apple realeased it on purpose knowing that we would assume it to be fake.......but with all the crap going around who knows what's real anymore?

[ImNoSuperMan]

Let's all hope the Apple Store will be down at 7AM CT tomorrow morning.




AMEN

[Georgeo]

AMEN
AMEN PARTNER!
I am currently down on my knees praying to god JOBS. Release this baby!!Oh lordy lord, when it gets released; me and all my applehead friends (and I have alot) are to going crack open a bottle of apple Fizz and party all night. We will even hit the streets. It would be like our team won the Super Bowl.The Mac Bowl I call it. I can't sleep at night I am so excited. I just had custom bed sheets made with the apple logo all over them...AMEN!!!

[dongmin]

http://www.coreduoinfo.com/blog/images/macbook5si.jpgyup, that mock-up has giveaways ALL OVER THE PLACE. but it's boring doing these photoshop debunking posts (but I will say "Redesigned to make an impact" sounds Really Retarded and very un-Apple-like).

Just give me the damn computer, Steve!

[fotofinish]

"Redesigned to make an impact."

it must be a fake. Any marketing team that came up with such a lame slogan would be fired on the spot!!

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

yup, that mock-up has giveaways ALL OVER THE PLACE. but it's boring doing these photoshop debunking posts (but I will say "Redesigned to make an impact" sounds Really Retarded and very un-Apple-like).

Just give me the damn computer, Steve!

Personally, even though they are fakes, they're fun to look at :)

They give us something to do with our bad selves :D

[Cooknn]

I wonder how long it will be after they're announced until CompUSA gets them in. I like their return policy a lot better than Apple's. So, for me although the announcement will be exciting, I won't be ordering one just yet. I'll wait until I can drive home with it - and a 21 day no questions asked return policy ;)

[MacUser4_20]

Apple order status is down for "scheduled maintanence" at 4pm PST?? Is this a precursor of tomorrow??

[pjkelnhofer]

yeah it looks photoshoped. someone at apple could have made this pic just to try and mess with us....or it could be real and apple realeased it on purpose knowing that we would assume it to be fake.......but with all the crap going around who knows what's real anymore?

Do you want the most obvious reason that it is fake? There is no such thing as a 1.67 Core Duo chip. It is 1.66 GHz.

Check both the Intel (http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/) specs and the mini (http://www.apple.com/macmini/). Apple had original announced the MacBook Pros with 1.67 GHz Core Duo, but such an animal never shipped. By the time they released the mini they had them listed as 1.66 GHz, and that is what Intel officially lists them as.

Oops... I guess they were thinking of the 1.67 GHz G4. Or maybe Apple is "overclocking" them to force out an extra 10 MHz!!!

[BugSitter]

Apple order status is down for "scheduled maintanence" at 4pm PST?? Is this a precursor of tomorrow??

I'm surprised at how little talk there was about a post on the forums here a few days ago, pointing to an (illicit) macbook on the Italian e-bay. Whether it was real or not, it was taken down shortly thereafter... I'll have to look back through the threads to see who posted it... Was this ever confirmed as a fake?

I copied the info from the ebay site before it was taken down:


MacBook: nuovo iBook, anteprima mondiale!

Specifiche tecniche:
Schermo widescreen da 13.3"
Risoluzione 1280x1024
Intel Core Duo a 1,66 GHz(1)
512MB (SODIMM singola) di SDRAM DDR2 a 667MHz
Disco rigido Serial ATA da 60GB a 5400 giri/min
SuperDrive 2x con caricatore automatico (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 con 64MB di memoria GDDR3
WebCam iSight integrata
Front Row e telecomando Apple Remote
Una porta FireWire 400 e due USB 2.0
Case nero lucido

MacBook presenta inoltre trackpad scorrevole, connessione in rete AirPort Extreme (802.11b/g), Gigabit Ethernet, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, uscita video DVI Dual-Link.

INCREDIBILE: una vera bomba!

[DJS1234]

I wonder how long it will be after they're announced until CompUSA gets them in. I like their return policy a lot better than Apple's. So, for me although the announcement will be exciting, I won't be ordering one just yet. I'll wait until I can drive home with it - and a 21 day no questions asked return policy ;)

Here here, I have an iBook G4 12" at the moment on a similar try before you buy scheme 'bridging the gap' from my old laptop going down to the Macbook release. Its served me well this past few weeks and is sue back on Thursday or i'm stuck with it so it back to the store on Wednesday in anticipation of the (Hopefully by then announced) Macbook! Have to say although it is a really nice laptop I wouldn't relish the idea of being stuck with it as its more than a bit slow when there are a few apps running (I have upgraded the memory to a gig with a spare sodimm I had lying around)

Try after you buy, I'm all for it, especially when revision A bugs are concerned! (No more "Sir 50degrees c. case temperatures and whiney fans are all part of the design" for me!

[pjkelnhofer]

I'm surprised at how little talk there was about a post on the forums here a few days ago, pointing to an (illicit) macbook on the Italian e-bay. Whether it was real or not, it was taken down shortly thereafter... I'll have to look back through the threads to see who posted it... Was this ever confirmed as a fake?

I copied the info from the ebay site before it was taken down:


MacBook: nuovo iBook, anteprima mondiale!

Specifiche tecniche:
Schermo widescreen da 13.3"
Risoluzione 1280x1024
Intel Core Duo a 1,66 GHz(1)
512MB (SODIMM singola) di SDRAM DDR2 a 667MHz
Disco rigido Serial ATA da 60GB a 5400 giri/min
SuperDrive 2x con caricatore automatico (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 con 64MB di memoria GDDR3
WebCam iSight integrata
Front Row e telecomando Apple Remote
Una porta FireWire 400 e due USB 2.0
Case nero lucido

MacBook presenta inoltre trackpad scorrevole, connessione in rete AirPort Extreme (802.11b/g), Gigabit Ethernet, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, uscita video DVI Dual-Link.

INCREDIBILE: una vera bomba!

I think it was mostly ignored, because the picture is from an animation that has been going around for some time and is assumed fake.

Not to mention, AFAIK the X1600 comes with a minimum of 128MB of memory and Apple no longer uses or sells media for the 2x SuperDrive.

The weirdest (and in my mind most phony part) would be the 1280x1024 display. That is a ratio of 5:4. That would be squarer than the old standard of 4:3 and nowhere close to the 16:10 widescreen ratio that Apple uses (in all display, the iMac and MBPs).

[BugSitter]

I think it was mostly ignored, because the picture is from an animation that has been going around for some time and is assumed fake.

Not to mention, AFAIK the X1600 comes with a minimum of 128MB of memory and Apple no longer uses or sells media for the 2x SuperDrive.

The weirdest (and in my mind most phony part) would be the 1280x1024 display. That is a ratio of 5:4. That would be squarer than the old standard of 4:3 and nowhere close to the 16:10 widescreen ratio that Apple uses (in all display, the iMac and MBPs).

That answers my question. Thanks!

Alas, that fake video sure is pretty though... lol ;)

[KindredMAC]

You know what I find absolutely hilarious about all these photoshop knockoffs??? Every single one of them shows the current latching system. Is it not one of the main rumors that there would be a magnetic latching system implemented for the MacBook???????

Plus what is it with everyone keeping the keyboard and trackpad white when they show a Red or Black MacBook? Apple's not one for mixing and matching colors in that fashion. Makes it look like a cheap piece of PC crap.

[sinisterdesign]

just FYI.

[mikea]

just FYI.

Ya, right.

[yac_moda]

Check out THIS LINK &#191;&#191;&#191;

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=608880DF&nclm=MacBook :eek: :eek: :eek:

"Select the software that will serve you best."

It should give an ERROR ...

ERROR, ERROR, ERROR !!!

[filterban]

Check out THIS LINK ¿¿¿

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=608880DF&nclm=MacBook :eek: :eek: :eek:

"Select the software that will serve you best."

It should give an ERROR ...

ERROR, ERROR, ERROR !!!

Sorry dude, I tried the same thing before, had the same conclusion, but then I tried other things:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=608880DF&nclm=MacBookThin

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=608880DF&nclm=BillGatesIsEvil

They all take you to the same page.

[BugSitter]

Check out THIS LINK ¿¿¿

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=608880DF&nclm=MacBook :eek: :eek: :eek:

"Select the software that will serve you best."

It should give an ERROR ...

ERROR, ERROR, ERROR !!!

Dude, change macbook in that url to anything else and you get the same page. But yeah, I'm hoping for tomorrow too.

[yac_moda]

Dude, change macbook in that url to anything else and you get the same page. But yeah, I'm hoping for tomorrow too.

That would be one way to TEST it, without giving it ALL away, won't it :eek: :eek: :eek:

[aarongobo]

I really, really, REALLY, REALLY hope that it is released this week, I mean we have been waiting for this for like.........FOREVER!

[sinisterdesign]

Ya, right.

according to my drunken [cough..appleemployee..cough] source, it WILL be tomorrow.

[iEdd]

just FYI.
And you are basing this on...?

[cycocelica]

oh wow appleinsider predicts another media event!?!?!

more ******** from them. They always have these stupid predictions just to get everyone hyped it. Here is there thinking:

"Apple has been pretty dull lately, nothing has come out. We need to draw more attention to ourselves and Apple. Lets just make up a date and say something will be announced, which we have no evidence nor do WE actually believe it."

"Special event" day comes and goes, nothing is announced

"Well there goes that, why not just play with the Mac fanboys mind a little. Lets make up a new date, get these people all excited again. Let them down again. We seem to really kickass at that."

You go AppleInsider, you keep up your random dates, hundreds already believe.

But hey, let them prove me wrong. It would make me happy.

[MmmMac]

Think of all the hits these rumours sites are getting. The advertisers sure are getting their money's worth!

[MrCrowbar]

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/1027/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/DadsGrads_topbanner2.jpg

I take this as a hint Apple is aware of graduation season and stuff. Store is not down by the way. :)
Either Thursdy or Friday will be interesting for new hardware.

[jacobj]

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/1027/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/DadsGrads_topbanner2.jpg

I take this as a hint Apple is aware of graduation season and stuff. Store is not down by the way. :)
Either Thursdy or Friday will be interesting for new hardware.

If done by a store update, I wouldn't expect it to go down until 8.30 EST.

[LifeIsCheap]

Updates perhaps?...

[bcsalt]

UK store down too.....

[instantane]

same in france !

[vespats]

AS in germany is down, too

[bcsalt]

blatantly just messing with our heads!!

Here's hoping......

[tobyd]

Ireland store is now also down...
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/irlstore

[aswitcher]

Looking good!

[inmotion]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

could this really be?

<gasping for air>

[instantane]

i now disagree with those who thought it was gonna be thursday...

thursday is not actualy a special event, it's not a day for new hardware. The hardware needs to be released before and then Apple will talk about it to the press

[vespats]

japan, china, whole europe...

down US! just go down ;)

[aswitcher]

USA still up...

[aswitcher]

Hey, USA store has iBooks in 24 hours :P

[bcsalt]

so did the uk until it went awol....

[instantane]

Hey, USA store has iBooks in 24 hours :P

I was actually thinking of buying one... this great little white computer is so cool... You think it's the right moment ? :) :) :)

[inmotion]

:rolleyes: canada go down too! cmon!

[instantane]

any store still open excepted US and CA ?

[PekkaR]

any store still open excepted US and CA ?

Finland and South Korea.

EDIT: Finland down while I was writing that. =D

[vespats]

there goes usa

[aswitcher]

US down...

[inmotion]

byebye canada :D

[han_solo94]

I am down to the apple store this evening. Here's hoping for something big, I've got a credit card burning a hole in my pocket!

[MrCrowbar]

OMG OMG OMG...
It's Tuesday and all stores are down. I guess these moments are where Apple has the most hits per minute. I can't resist hitting Command+R every few seconds.

[nocturnal17]

australia store down too!!!!!!!!!!!

crosses fingers

*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*

[mac-x]

great this means something right? there down :P

[MrCrowbar]

great this means something right? there down :P

Yea. It could mean a minor change in price or an updated software. We've seen that before. But all stores beeing down means something...


EDIT:
Quote:
Originally Posted by gleepskip:
Hey, I wonder if the 5th Avenue store will close when new product arrives and they have to remerchandise the store?


LOL. Guess it would be lame just bringing new stuff on the shelves while custumors are shopping. I'd love to see a stickie note with "We'll be back soon." at the frint door when they put up the new products. :D

[cal6n]

australia store down too!!!!!!!!!!!

crosses fingers

*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*
*dedicated graphics*

Not gonna happen and it's irrelevant anyway because the new generation of integrated graphics is far superior to the old.

[han_solo94]

Come on. It's been down for around an hour. I know they always take longer than we think, but this is now getting painful!

[nocturnal17]

wonder how the apple server will cope with thousdands of ppl hiting f5 continually;)

[mac-x]

the longer the wait, the more products they have to put up ;)

[han_solo94]

the longer the wait, the more products they have to put up ;)


Well, let's hope. I need a new iPod too!

[cal6n]

wonder how the apple server will cope with thousdands of ppl hiting f5 continually;)

F5?

STONE THE UNBELIEVER!

:)

[ImAlwaysRight]

woo-hoo! Store Down! This Is It!!!!

[cal6n]

woo-hoo! Store Down! This Is It!!!!

Morning! Sleep well?

[MrCrowbar]

F5?

STONE THE UNBELIEVER!

:)

Thx. Didn't know Firefox reloads on F5 on Macs too. I use Command+R for everything.
PS: Damn, I have to poo... hope I don't miss anything :)

[han_solo94]

Morning! Sleep well?


Definitely too much caffiene for that man! :D

[cal6n]

Thx. Didn't know Firefox reloads on F5 on Macs too. I use Command+R for everything.
PS: Damn, I have to poo... hope I don't miss anything :)

Alright then.

(Grudgingly drops rock)

I have it mapped to my mouse click-wheel's button

[han_solo94]

grrrrr.....a watched website never updates! :(

[han_solo94]

It's up It's UP!!!! and in Black!

[MrCrowbar]

YIPEEEEE:

http://www.apple.com/macbook/

http://images.apple.com/macbook/images/indextop20060516.gif

[iEdd]

It's up It's UP!!!! and in Black!
OMG! Zomug!.. It's here! UK store seems to be the first to have it.

[inmotion]

New Macbooks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vespats]

NO DEDICATED GRAPHIC - in that case i wait for the 64bit imac :)

and by the way $200 for 20gb more hd space and the color - interesting

[MrCrowbar]

Same processors as the 15" MBP. Integrated graphics though...

[KindredMAC]

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Ordering RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[inmotion]

once more... no battery life mention :mad:

[ImNoSuperMan]

it`s There It`s Ther Omg Omg It`s Ther

Macbook Is Here

Omg

[iEdd]

Woah... $90 to go from 60GB to 80GB, yet to go from 60GB->80GB and Black it's $300... :eek:
Classic white iBook(macbook) will be the one most people will have. I must say the specs/value pwns the MBP, even with intel GMA950s.

[phatspider]

Wow - the black one looks really nice

I notice the 12" Powerbook (and any mention of the powerbook) is gone from the store now

So black is identical spec but £130 more? That is ridiculous!

[phatspider]

I guess the closeness in spec between this and the MBP, will mean we will see a bump for the MBP farily soon?

[MrCrowbar]

Woah... $90 to go from 60GB to 80GB, yet to go from 60GB->80GB and Black it's $300... :eek:
Classic white iBook(macbook) will be the one most people will have. I must say the specs/value pwns the MBP, even with intel GMA950s.

Yea totally. We knew there would be Core Duo, but 2GHz is amazing. There's also a new keyboard :eek: and the magnetic latch. And it's only 1.08" thin. I'll give my store a call to ask if they have it.

[Diddiyo]

200$ more because of black color and a 80gb hdd instead of a 60gb hdd? i don't think that's worth it... though i'd really like a black notebook :(

[dswoodley]

Ordered! With education discount! (only $50 though). Mid-level model, upgraded RAM and Hard Drive for $1334. Not bad considering I paid nearly $1900 for my first iBook in 2001 and the specs are still better than my current 12 in PB that I paid over $1400 for.

[ImNoSuperMan]

OH NO. Not even a choice for dedicated grafix at all. Sh#t. I was so excited. I`ll pay 1500 for the same with a 64/128 MB dedicated one.

[iEdd]

200$ more because of black color and a 80gb hdd instead of a 60gb hdd? i don't think that's worth it... though i'd really like a black notebook :(
Yeah.. Kinda sucks, seeing as black or white costs Apple exactly the same to do. Maybe a $100US would be worth it [as $60US of that would be for the HDD], but still, why is there a need to charge just for the black look?:(
EDIT: We shouldn't bitch about every apple release... Nothing is perfect :p It's awesome that the price only went up $100US and 1.83GHz core duo. Dedicated graphics and B/W option all round would be nice, but it's a speedy little notebook for consumers so.. smile. :)

[MrCrowbar]

OH NO. Not even a choice for dedicated grafix at all. Sh#t. I was so excited. I`ll pay 1500 for the same with a 64/128 MB dedicated one.

Well, you'd need 2 diffenernt mainboards then, one for integrated and one for dedicated graphics. But you can always put 2GB of RAM in there, so the 64MB the graphic takes should not hurt too much. The black one looks sexy indeed. Kinda like a mix of Thinkpads and the powerbooks...

[phatspider]

Yeah.. Kinda sucks, seeing as black or white costs Apple exactly the same to do. Maybe a $100US would be worth it [as $60US of that would be for the HDD], but still, why is there a need to charge just for the black look?:(
EDIT: We shouldn't bitch about every apple release... Nothing is perfect :p It's awesome that the price only went up $100US and 1.83GHz core duo. Dedicated graphics and B/W option all round would be nice, but it's a speedy little notebook for consumers so.. smile. :)

We dont have to pay more for the Black iPod so why should we for the Mac Book

Unless Apple has plans to make the black iPod more expensive!!!!

[iEdd]

We dont have to pay more for the Black iPod so why should we for the MacBook.
Good point. I could understand the charging more for colours if they were less common. For example. $1099US for B/W, $1149US for Green/blue/red. It's just the "pro" look or Apple simply making a status symbol I guess.. :o

[phatspider]

I wonder if the stores have these yet - am just down from regents Street so may take a look after work

[phatspider]

Good point. I could understand the charging more for colours if they were less common. For example. $1099US for B/W, $1149US for Green/blue/red. It's just the "pro" look or Apple simply making a status symbol I guess.. :o

Its the sort of thing i'd expect - supply and demand and all that. people want the black - so let them pay more for it

But its not the sort of thing I had learnt to expect from Apple - hey ho

[MrCrowbar]

I just called my store here and the guy told me the US stores have them on the shelves now.

[phatspider]

I bet the black looks good from the top - with the lit up apple logo ;)

[ImNoSuperMan]

Well, you'd need 2 diffenernt mainboards then, one for integrated and one for dedicated graphics. But you can always put 2GB of RAM in there, so the 64MB the graphic takes should not hurt too much. The black one looks sexy indeed. Kinda like a mix of Thinkpads and the powerbooks...

Thats another downer. I really wanted anything but white:D . blue black red grey silver may be even green:eek: but not a white. But now itseems I`ll have to get a white again

[bcsalt]

Battery life is mentioned:

MacBook offers up to 6 hours of battery life. (2.5 hours of DVD playback, 3.5 hours with wireless turned on). Here’s how to squeeze out every last second of battery power when you need it.

[MrCrowbar]

The Macbook Pro was upgraded. Now in 2.00 Ghz and 2.16 GHz

[dar]

If the MacBook was announced today, what do you think the briefing on Thursday could be about?

[Tastannin]

If the MacBook was announced today, what do you think the briefing on Thursday could be about?

Probably will have Jobs showing off the MacBook and his new Cube.

[dar]

Definitely no chance of new iPod yet right?

[yac_moda]

Definitely no chance of new iPod yet right?

Wireless video iPods on the way no doubt about it :eek:

[shadowmoses]

Wireless video iPods on the way no doubt about it :eek:

I'm pretty sure thats the case, Steve is gonna wanna make the iPod's very impressive to blow away the competition...

SHadoW

[aswitcher]

Wireless video iPods on the way no doubt about it :eek:

That would make me spend money ;)

[peharri]

If the MacBook was announced today, what do you think the briefing on Thursday could be about?

The briefing is, and always was, about the opening of the store the following morning. It was never anything else, it never pretended to be anything else, it even said in the publicity that this is what it was about. Only the obsession with MacBooks coming out tomorrow meant anyone considered it might be about anything else.

BTW, I'm predicting MacBooks today, maybe this morning, perhaps sooner.

[dswoodley]

The briefing is, and always was, about the opening of the store the following morning. It was never anything else, it never pretended to be anything else, it even said in the publicity that this is what it was about. Only the obsession with MacBooks coming out tomorrow meant anyone considered it might be about anything else.

BTW, I'm predicting MacBooks today, maybe this morning, perhaps sooner.

ummm, they came out a few hours ago. :eek:

Late night? ;)

[peharri]

ummm, they came out a few hours ago. :eek:

Late night? ;)

It was a joke. ;P

I'm surprised they didn't accompany this release with a Stevenote. Oh well.

[lex]

Definitely no chance of new iPod yet right?
i'm hoping my friend is right about this -
i have a friend who works for nbc and they are working with apple on something right now..
he got an email yesterday saying to hold off buying anything for a few weeks because they would be releasing new products in the near future. nothing specific though.

now, usually my friend is full of crap, but because of the release this morning i'm hoping he is right about the ipod being released in the next two weeks also. my second ipod was stolen last week so i bought a new one, but if he's right it'll be worth the restocking fee to return it and get the newer one in a few weeks. he mentioned something about a touch screen which sounded pretty cool.

[ijimk]

my ipod photo died so i too will be intrested in a new ipod. i really hope it is released tomorow. :D

[netdog]

I bet the black looks good from the top - with the lit up apple logo ;)

Acutally, that is how they look best.

[netdog]

my ipod photo died so i too will be intrested in a new ipod. i really hope it is released tomorow. :D

I had thought that Apple ran into some problems with the full-screen video ipod, and hence it would be delayed until the Xmas season.

[lex]

I had thought that Apple ran into some problems with the full-screen video ipod, and hence it would be delayed until the Xmas season.
well that's no good..

i was going to return the one i bought last week and just wait it out, but i can't wait until xmas..

btw - do any of you know if the return policy would still be the same even if the released a new ipod?

[Apple Shmapple]

well that's no good..

i was going to return the one i bought last week and just wait it out, but i can't wait until xmas..

btw - do any of you know if the return policy would still be the same even if the released a new ipod?

Retailers can't change the return policy on you AFTER you purchased it. If you bought an iPod with a 30 day no questions asked return policy and a new one came out - they can't suddenly tell you 'tough beans' just because the new one came out.

You're safe, at least in that regard. The real risk is that you purchase an iPod, and a new one comes out 31 days after you bought a new one with a 30 day money back guarantee! :D

[truz]

People who return opened products to upgrade to a newer one is the reason of high prices.

I hear to many people on this board talk about returning something for this or that.. You wanted it at the time you paid for it right? nothing is wrong with it? keep it!

[brepublican]

video iPods next Tuesday!!1

(I dare someone to start a thread)

[aswitcher]

video iPods next Tuesday!!1

(I dare someone to start a thread)

Thursday more likely with this media presense.

[billchase2]

video iPods next Tuesday!!1

(I dare someone to start a thread)
wait, what?? did i miss something??

[yac_moda]

That would make me spend money ;)

Don't forget about Blueray ...

... maybe an option at the store for any LAPTOP :eek: :eek: :eek:

Sony just anounced their first laptop with BR.


Maybe an external but probably NOT.

Its strange, it seems that a few months after I outline the ultimate harded modular laptop on Spymac Apple came out with the user upgradable iMac ...

... and has now done much of the same for the laptops ...

... for me the ULTIMATE MACchine would be a laptop that has a LOCKABLE TRANSPERANT ALUMINUM shell :eek:

OH and the OS needs BADLY real security, hole free 1MB digital signatures that are integrated with the Email :eek: :eek: :eek:

[bill4588]

so that meeting was supposed to be held today right? Do you think we will hear anything about it tonight? Or will that wait until tomorrow morning?

[yac_moda]

so that meeting was supposed to be held today right? Do you think we will hear anything about it tonight? Or will that wait until tomorrow morning?

You mean the Event.

It was just the store opening people thought there might be some new product introduced with the opening but it did not work out that way :eek:

OH, OK, my BAD, here is a page that counts down the opening, tomorrow ...
http://www.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/

They only uncovered it today ???


Doors open in 00 day 22 hours 44 minutes and 52 seconds

[bill4588]

You mean the Event.

It was just the store opening people thought there might be some new product introduced with the opening but it did not work out that way :eek:
yeah that's what i meant. oh well :(

[PJJames]

Does anybody have footage from the press event that went down today??? The store looks great....can't wait to see if anyone takes some pictures tomorrow.

[billchase2]

i work at a local news station and was hoping to find a little coverage of the event. so far... nothing.

[brepublican]

wait, what?? did i miss something??
Said thread will end up in the wasteland faster than you can say "New G5 PowerBooks next Tuesday!!1"

It is reminiscent though, I miss those days... *sigh*