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sorenladegaard
May 20, 2006, 06:04 AM
Thought you might wanted to know about Think Commodore (http://www.thinkcommodore.com)

The site is all about Commodore emulation from a Macintosh perspective. Games, demos, music, buying new hardware etc.

Relive your childhood. I'm sure you'll love what you find :-)

Cheers!

Dagless
May 20, 2006, 06:27 AM
Spam.
I love the Amiga. Best games console in the world, ever, frankly. Don't destroy that feeling with spam.

sorenladegaard
May 20, 2006, 06:31 AM
Spam.
I love the Amiga. Best games console in the world, ever, frankly. Don't destroy that feeling with spam.

Why do you consider this spam?

Can't a member of the Mac community tell others about his own website? Many do like my site as there aren't many websites about commodore emulation on the mac.

Dagless
May 20, 2006, 06:35 AM
You're promoting your own website about roms and emulators in your first post?

No, I can't see anything wrong with that :confused:

angelneo
May 20, 2006, 07:38 AM
I can't access the site. It returns 403 forbidden.

Lyle
May 20, 2006, 11:23 AM
I haven't had time to look through the site yet, but it doesn't look like SPAM to me.

Dagless
May 20, 2006, 12:02 PM
I wonder if sorenladegaard would care to touch upon the legality of this too. As you cannot play Amiga games (unsure about Commodore 64) without using a Kickstart ROM file. Care to explain more about this?
You can legally have all the emulators and UDF files in the world but you cannot touch them without using a file which is illegal to obtain.

MacRumorUser
May 20, 2006, 01:36 PM
From the guys site

I'd recommend you buy the Amiga Forever package from Cloanto. This will give you every Kickstart and Workbench from version 1.0 to 3.1. And best of all, these are legal and fully licensed from Amiga Inc. And having them on you Mac or on a CD/DVD is just a whole lot easier than transferring between an Amiga and your Mac.

therevolution
May 20, 2006, 03:17 PM
I don't consider this spam. It's not as though he's selling Viagra. Seems like a harmless fan site.

sorenladegaard, you probably would have caught less flack if you'd have been upfront that it was your site and that everything there is legal (assuming it is...?), noncommercial, etc. Also, the site has some rendering issues. See the attachment. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.3.

sorenladegaard
May 20, 2006, 03:38 PM
Also, the site has some rendering issues. See the attachment. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.3.

It's a server problem. I'm in the process of moving to new servers within the next few days.

Abulia
May 21, 2006, 11:48 AM
Don't mind jimmi; his panties are typically in a bunch. ;)

[Edit] BTW, welcome to the forums! :D

crachoar
May 21, 2006, 11:56 AM
OMG Abulia, I'm reporting your post for personal attacks!


On topic: w00t.

Dagless
May 21, 2006, 12:42 PM
Don't mind jimmi; his panties are typically in a bunch. ;)

[Edit] BTW, welcome to the forums! :D

I just don't like people degrading such great consoles.

Last time I checked the only way to get the needed Kickstart ROM was to link up to a PC using a butchered print cable. It all seems to have moved in leaps and bounds now though, especially if you can connect much more easily and with a Mac.

How on earth did you get a license from Amiga Inc?! I bet that cost an arm and a leg, especially with the AmigaOne (they're not dead).

edit: which would have been easy because Eyetech are carrying on the Amiga line, not Amiga Inc. :o

odedia
May 21, 2006, 01:01 PM
Wow, great site!! thanks for posting!

I don't consider this spam AT ALL, this is excellent service to the mac community. I used to have a commodore 64 and I miss some of the games of that time.

So, thanks again!

Oded S.

sorenladegaard
May 24, 2006, 09:31 AM
Has anyone got E-UAE to work on an Intel based Mac? I just got myself a 17" Intel iMac and I can't get E-UAE to work. When I click "ok" in Hi-Toro E-UAE is launched but it quits unexpectedly right away.

Any ideas?

Bakey
May 24, 2006, 09:48 AM
I just don't like people degrading such great consoles.

Sorry to sound pedantic [hell, I'm just following in the 'air' of the thread] but the Amiga ain't/isn't a console!!?! :cool:

Unless you're talking about the CD32 thingy of course!! ;)

Man, it brings back memories -- my first every 'puter was C= 64 [the proper ones that looked like VIC20's]. After many years it finally went the way of the do-do and was subsequently replaced by a fabulous first generation Amiga 500!!

Boy oh boy was I the envy of school [well for a short while at least... :rolleyes: ]

Dagless
May 24, 2006, 09:57 AM
Well the Amiga was a true hyrbid of PC and Console, alright it lacked serious power that the PC's were getting. A lack of built-in OS sorta took away from the PC feel too. Just insert a disc and press the power button. or insert the OS disc if need be. very flexible.
similar to the PS3 I suppose, if Sony remain true to their Linux and homebrew support.

PC-Console. The worlds greatest ;)

Bakey
May 24, 2006, 10:08 AM
Well the Amiga was a true hyrbid of PC and Console, alright it lacked serious power that the PC's were getting. A lack of built-in OS sorta took away from the PC feel too. Just insert a disc and press the power button. or insert the OS disc if need be. very flexible.
similar to the PS3 I suppose, if Sony remain true to their Linux and homebrew support.

PC-Console. The worlds greatest ;)

I could be shooting myself in the foot here - but my understanding of the whole Amiga story was that Amiga was a development bunch [Amiga Corporation] snapped-up by Commodore and the eventual A1000 was already kind of mid-development cycle over at Amiga Corp.

The Amiga guys wanted to seriously push their kit as an out and out games machine, where as Commodore were angling for the more PC end of the market and wished it to be a competitor to IBM's machines [after all Commodore's full title is/was indeed Commodore Business Machines aka CBM].

It's all a bit here and there with my re-collection, I'm seem to remember a fairly lengthy interview in Amiga World magazine [special import to the UK only back in the day] with one of the head guys at Amiga... think his name was Jeff Something-or-other [I want to say Minter but I know he's the Llamasoft guy!!!]

Anyways, I'm sure someone else around here could help fill in the blanks, etc.!?! ;)

sorenladegaard
May 24, 2006, 11:38 AM
Anyways, I'm sure someone else around here could help fill in the blanks, etc.!?! ;)

This will most centainly fill in the blanks :-) :http://www.commodorebook.com

It's a really, really great book.

Queso
May 24, 2006, 11:55 AM
The Amiga was seriously ahead of it's time, and in many ways led the field in things we now attribute to Apple for pioneering. For example, Quartz Extreme, where all graphics output is thrown out to the GPU was an Amiga thing back in 1984. Desktop Video Editing on the Amiga - 1987. It made a great games machine but was really a cheap graphics workstation. The problem is Commodore never understood it and where it should be positioned. Thanks to the Commodore 64 they also had the attitude that computers didn't need to be developed for years at a time.

So once the money from the A500 started rolling in, they basically did nothing with the Amiga design for nearly five years, with the exception of releasing the seriously-overpriced A2000, which was just an A500 with expansion slots and a separate keyboard. By the time they started to realise their mistake and released the A3000, A1200 and A4000 models, they'd already blown all the profits and the rest of the world was catching up.

It's a shame, because Jay Miner and co. had a machine there that could have given us a user experience as good as, if not better, than OSX by the early 90s if they'd been allowed to keep up development. 10 years wasted by bad management and lack of ambition. Commodore was a tale of how not to run a company.

camomac
May 24, 2006, 12:10 PM
thanks for the links, i will definately check out this site when i get home. i loved my C=64. my first computer!

blitzkrieg79
May 24, 2006, 01:42 PM
The Amiga was seriously ahead of it's time, and in many ways led the field in things we now attribute to Apple for pioneering. For example, Quartz Extreme, where all graphics output is thrown out to the GPU was an Amiga thing back in 1984. Desktop Video Editing on the Amiga - 1987. It made a great games machine but was really a cheap graphics workstation. The problem is Commodore never understood it and where it should be positioned. Thanks to the Commodore 64 they also had the attitude that computers didn't need to be developed for years at a time.

So once the money from the A500 started rolling in, they basically did nothing with the Amiga design for nearly five years, with the exception of releasing the seriously-overpriced A2000, which was just an A500 with expansion slots and a separate keyboard. By the time they started to realise their mistake and released the A3000, A1200 and A4000 models, they'd already blown all the profits and the rest of the world was catching up.

It's a shame, because Jay Miner and co. had a machine there that could have given us a user experience as good as, if not better, than OSX by the early 90s if they'd been allowed to keep up development. 10 years wasted by bad management and lack of ambition. Commodore was a tale of how not to run a company.


Definately agree with you, Amiga was so ahead of it's time, it had a multitasking OS with color GUI(we are talking about mid 1980s), true plug and play, and it never crashed on me (although software back then was much less complex than today but still I can't remember even ONE problem with my A500, something I can't say about my PC nor Mac). Basically it was perfect out of the box.

Amiga community still exists and there are some kits you can buy based on PowerPC BUT it's not really supported by anyone which is a shame. A500 is definately the computer I remember the most and have the best memories of, something I can't say about todays computers.

Dagless
May 24, 2006, 01:53 PM
Whoa yea! My Amiga never crashed whilst running applications. Sure some games crashed at launch, those damaged discs and that red box screen.

Brilliant system. That's why I always name the Amiga as my favourite console. Chris Huelsbeck and Turrican were the best things to happen to the game industry, even though it probably was just a knee jerk reaction to Nintendo shutting down their Great Giana Sisters Mario clone. Make a Metroid one instead!

I will love anybody who knows what I'm on about :)

Bakey
May 24, 2006, 02:31 PM
Definately agree with you, Amiga was so ahead of it's time, it had a multitasking OS with color GUI(we are talking about mid 1980s), true plug and play, and it never crashed on me...

But don't forget the Amiga never crashed... It simply "meditated" [re. 'Guru Meditation']. ;)

Loved it! Absolutely loved it... my first job as a video graphics guy involved a suite of Amiga's made up of 500's and the daddy of them all with its genlock et al was a mighty mighty A2000!! Whoah... :D

Stuff of dreams!!! Oh, happy days... :D

Bakey
May 24, 2006, 02:33 PM
This will most centainly fill in the blanks :-) :http://www.commodorebook.com

It's a really, really great book.

Just ordered it from Amazon.co.uk [talk about impulse buy!!] -- it's not published until 30th September!! Hey ho...

Queso
May 24, 2006, 02:37 PM
Here you go. This should bring back memories :cool:

48429

Bakey
May 24, 2006, 02:50 PM
Whoa yea! My Amiga never crashed whilst running applications. Sure some games crashed at launch, those damaged discs and that red box screen.

Brilliant system. That's why I always name the Amiga as my favourite console. Chris Huelsbeck and Turrican were the best things to happen to the game industry, even though it probably was just a knee jerk reaction to Nintendo shutting down their Great Giana Sisters Mario clone. Make a Metroid one instead!

I will love anybody who knows what I'm on about :)

Great Giana Sisters! Amazing game... loved it!!

Anyone remember the Bitmap Brothers who produced the likes of Xenon?

There were some truly amazing games produced for this machine; many of which really put its close cousin the Atari ST to shame - in many respects despite them sharing the same CPU they just weren't comparable!

Some great groups out there as well producing truly jaw dropping demos; there was one in particular I think they were French and produced "Coppercabana" but I can't remember their name!! Then there was DOC; fantastic stuff... :D

Bakey
May 24, 2006, 03:02 PM
The Amiga was seriously ahead of it's time, and in many ways led the field in things we now attribute to Apple for pioneering. For example, Quartz Extreme, where all graphics output is thrown out to the GPU was an Amiga thing back in 1984. Desktop Video Editing on the Amiga - 1987.

Good point!!

Then there was the likes of Amiga Vision the "Authorware" like multimedia development tool and Scala the "Powerpoint" on steroids piece of kit - and of course NewTek's VideoToaster...

You're right on the mark, when you seriously think about it the Amiga platform was way ahead of its game!!

Seriously, with stuff like this how could a company like Commodore screw-up so badly?!

Dagless
May 24, 2006, 03:13 PM
I got talking to a guy who produced graphics for Bitmap Brothers games. Chaos Engine is the game that stands out most to me. Some bits are actually photo-realistic pixel art. now THAT takes skill! especially on a 32 colour palette.