Apple 12" PowerBook 1.5ghz, 1.25gb ram,60gb HD

[Sca1pel]

Selling this baby, Guess im getting a MacBook Pro. I babied this soooo much. I still have the original box sitting somewhere so everything original is included. Mint condition

1.5ghz Power PC
1.25 GB ram (1gb chip from crucial)
60gb hard drive
Airport Express + Bluetooth
And all the original Bells and whistles.

http://www.sca1pel.com/apple/ApplePowerbook-03.jpg
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http://www.sca1pel.com/apple/ApplePowerbook-07.jpg

Asking $1,000 obo shipped 3 day to your door, via PayPal or Money Order.

[Sca1pel]

900

[macpastor]

$800 Shipped? Cash in hand ready to convert over to Money Order. Please let me know if you would do this.

Thanks, Dean

[quicksilver77]

Dude I sent you payment but have not heard if you shipped the unit or not. I PM'd you as well. Just want to make sure everything is cool. Please let me know.

[quicksilver77]

Has anyone dealt with this person before? Just want to make sure everythign is Ok.

[dan-o-mac]

:eek: I've never dealt with this person. What person info do you have of his, telephone, address, email?

[quicksilver77]

Got a PM from him...all seems well just waiting for a tracking number.

[quicksilver77]

Dude...still no trackng number from you...I know your busy but that woudl set my mind at ease.

[wako]

i feel someone is getting either a P-P-P-Powerbook or nothing

[interlaced]

I hope he was just busy with the holiday weekend or maybe school. :o

[quicksilver77]

Well he said it was sent USPS ems...not sure what ems stands for...still waiting.

[wako]

Express Mail Service i think

[interlaced]

If you're within the US, Express mail is usually next day delivery. Global Express Mail can take from 3-5 business days.

http://www.usps.com/business/shippingtools/shippingproducts.htm?from=home&page=shippingproductsservices

[quicksilver77]

Im actually in Canada...another reason I am getting worried. :)

[quicksilver77]

So.... I have not heard anything....no tracking number...no nothing since the reply. I do not really know what to do at this point.

[calebjohnston]

You really should have done more research beforehand. My first buzzer would be that he has barely more than the 100 required posts.

Hope it all works out, though.


I love the limewire + photoshop combination in his dock, BTW.

[XIII]

So.... I have not heard anything....no tracking number...no nothing since the reply. I do not really know what to do at this point.

Is he not replying to PMs?

[quicksilver77]

No thats why I am posting in his original thread. I don't want to hurt his reputation if its because he is too busy to reply or something but I think I have given him plenty of time to reply. I do not know the last time he was on this site.

[calebjohnston]

Sorry, I didn't read up, I'm on my way out -- did he give you any other contact information? E-mail, cell phone, something?

[4JNA]

I do not know the last time he was on this site.

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[quicksilver77]

He gave me the paypal address to send the money to. I tried that one as well. I am starting to get pissed off. If he was online on the 30th of May then he must have read my PM's. He PM'ed me on Saturday May 27 telling me he had shipped it USPS EMS after syaing he woudl ship it on Thursday May 25. He said he had been working alot...so I cut him some slack. I replied the same day and said thanks and asked for a tracking number. Which I dont' think is too much to ask. Have not heard a peep from him since.

I also did a google search for his username and came across his blog...which i think is him.

[interlaced]

He gave me the paypal address to send the money to. I tried that one as well. I am starting to get pissed off. If he was online on the 30th of May then he must have read my PM's. He PM'ed me on Saturday May 27 telling me he had shipped it USPS EMS after syaing he woudl ship it on Thursday May 25. He said he had been working alot...so I cut him some slack. I replied the same day and said thanks and asked for a tracking number. Which I dont' think is too much to ask. Have not heard a peep from him since.

I also did a google search for his username and came across his blog...which i think is him.

He should have seen your PMs and emails if he was just online the other day. If anything, you could probably contact the police in his area and give them the info? I, too, have seen his blog and both websites and found out a lot of info on him already.. if it is the same guy.

[DougTheImpaler]

I'm not defending the guy (not to give the wrong impression) but the "Express" service from the USPS takes up to two weeks. I've shipped some stuff from central Illinois to Canada, which sucked.

[quicksilver77]

Yeah I understand it may take along time to reach me...just would like some communication with him to set my mind at ease. I don't think thats too much to ask.

[DougTheImpaler]

I don't think it's too much either, was just making sure everyone knew that "express"...well...isn't.

[jtaylr77]

Not sure but I hope this helps :confused:

Registrant:
Jaime Rivera

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SCA1PEL.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.JAIMERIVERA.COM
NS2.JAIMERIVERA.COM


http://www.jaimerivera.com/

[wako]

I say you quickly file a claim on this guy...


this is very irresponsible as a seller to keep the buyer in the dark. If you dont, you give him time to fund the money to other places so that you might never see your money again.


Even if he did send it and you get the item, after filing a claim, you can always cancel the claim.

[quicksilver77]

So I should file a claim with Paypal then? Should I try 1 more PM message to him? I have never filed a claim with Paypal so not sure what to give them as a reason.

[kmarketing]

Hi,

File the claim right away. I was scolded on another thread for filing a complaint after 4 days of no response. The seller did refund me the money but only after the claim was filed. But during that time on another transaction, I was scammed. And even though I filed the complaint within 4 days on that one, paypal took a couple of weeks to investigate and they did not get anything back for me.

Definitely cover yourself. Also if you used credit card, contact the CC company just in case also. They'll tell you to wait, but at least you'll have it on record.

[quicksilver77]

I opened a claim with Paypal. Going through the process it tells me that they are unable to communicate with the seller and do i want to escalate it...I said yes...i hope that means he hasn;t closed his paypal account. Now I am really worried.

[wako]

escalate it and say basically the person and stopped communication and you never recieved the package. He has 20 days to respond, and if he doesnt respond, Paypal will try to retrieve the money. If he does respond, you will communicate through him, if you do not come to an agreement within 20 days since the claim was issued, Paypal will review the case and make a decision of their own.

[kmarketing]

Hi,

Actually I believe that paypal will temporarily hold his account so that he can't use it. They will give hime several days though to respond, which stinks to wait, but hopefully the claim wasn't too late. If they don't hear from him they will try to recover funds but it is not guaranteed.

One time when I bought a laptop on ebay, I paid $941 through paypal. It was a scam, and paypal pathetically only recovered $16 for me. Thank goodness my credit card has protection and recovered the remaining amount.

Good Luck!

[FireArse]

Hey man, I wish you the best of luck - hate to see someone on here get shafted :(

F

[quicksilver77]

He has replied to me by PM gave phone number. No tracking number but says the number given by the post office is only for customs. I suppose the posts shoudl be removed about him not following through. I really don't know what course of action teh mods want to take wiht this thread. I was only trying to cover my own bum.

[wako]

WTF? Tracking number is for customs? I smell some foul BS...


Dont dont down your claim yet though. Wait till you retrieve the item first.

[quicksilver77]

I live in Canada so don't know about USPS but if you use any service above regular mail here then you get a tracking number.

[williamw]

Umm. Usually it takes 2.5 weeks for me to get stuff from the US, with that shipping. The border holds it up.

[quicksilver77]

I don't mind waiting...that wasn't the point more of having the ability to track it.

[0s and 1s]

Another bad apple in the MR Marketplace.... :mad:


Keep us posted....and good luck.

[interlaced]

That's good that you've gotten in contact with him. I've been ripped off in the past (seller told me to just wait and it'd arrive, but it never did) so I'd still be worried until I actually had the item in my hands. But hopefully he's being truthful.

[Fuchal]

USPS does not offer any delivery confirmation or tracking options for after it leaves the States.

[wako]

despite it not working even after it leaves the US, you should still get the tracking number. You can atleast still have some type of confirmation that it was shipped.

I think he indeed another bad apple

[Atlasland]

Any more news? Have you recieved the PB yet?

[quicksilver77]

No i have not received anything. Or a tracking number of any kind. Some mebers are saying it does not have a tracking number. Will have to wait a week or more to see if it arrives.

[rmhop81]

No i have not received anything. Or a tracking number of any kind. Some mebers are saying it does not have a tracking number. Will have to wait a week or more to see if it arrives.
did you pay with paypal via your credit card? if i were u i would call them up and reverse the charges......poor communication during a $900 is extremely ridiculous.

[livingfortoday]

If he is mailing from the US to Canada, the only way to get a tracking number is to send it Global Priority Mail. The only number he will have is the customs number otherwise. I wouldn't worry, it's most likely being held in customs right now. I had the same problem when I shipped some RAM to the UK recently, it got held up in customs and the buyer didn't get it for about a month. It was ridiculous, but he kept his cool. The difference is that I offered to help him out, though.

[quicksilver77]

Well I dont mind waiting. I do mind waiting a month though. How can they hold somethign up in customs for that long. So do I wait a month or contact the seller and just cancel this whole transacton ebcause of lack of communication up until this point.

[livingfortoday]

Well I dont mind waiting. I do mind waiting a month though. How can they hold somethign up in customs for that long. So do I wait a month or contact the seller and just cancel this whole transacton ebcause of lack of communication up until this point.

In my situation we were doing a trade and I got his RAM and he didn't get mine, so I just sent him payment for it and bought it outright. He refunded me later when the RAM arrived on his end.

If I were you, I would give it a week to come still, but I would also contact the seller and let him know that if it doesn't come by the end of the week that you'd like a refund, and that if it comes after the refund has been issued, that you will mail the computer back to him.

[quicksilver77]

Well I am getting a little tired of waiting for this and the initial anticipation of receiving my first portable mac has worn off. This whole transaction has been unpleasant.

[QCassidy352]

this sucks. :( One thing I like about the MR marketplace as opposed to ebay is that I've always been able to trust people here. once I traded a powerbook for a powermac, and the other guy even shipped me the PM first (because I had no way to back up my files) with no kind of guarantee. Needless to say, I did the transfer and shipped him the powerbook same day. Wonderful transaction.

I've bought and sold other things here as well, most recently an airport card that just arrived yesterday from i'm_to_hyper. They have all been great transactions.

So it saddens me to see an honest buyer getting ripped off like this on the MR marketplace. I don't know what to say except that I hope this all works out for the best for you quicksilver77. Please keep us posted!

[livingfortoday]

Yeah, this is unfortunate. I've had nothing but good transactions on here, which is why I keep selling and buying here.

I'm kinda of surprised that the seller hasn't come try to make his case on here or anything this whole time.

[XIII]

In my situation we were doing a trade and I got his RAM and he didn't get mine, so I just sent him payment for it and bought it outright. He refunded me later when the RAM arrived on his end.

If I were you, I would give it a week to come still, but I would also contact the seller and let him know that if it doesn't come by the end of the week that you'd like a refund, and that if it comes after the refund has been issued, that you will mail the computer back to him.

Yep, that was me. Really, I only didn't take action to get my RAM back because livingfortoday was very co-operative - bought my ram off of me when we both thought it had been lost in the post. When it turned up (yeah, about a month.. ridiculous) I refunded the money. In your case, right now I would wait for what PayPal will do. If they don't do anything, and your laptop doesn't turn up, do chargeback on the credit card and you will get your money back. Be aware, you can't have PayPal investigating AND chargeback happening at the same time. Good luck. I've just recently lost $1600 because I didn't buy the item with a credit card and PayPal would do nothing (it was stolen in the post by UPS). I hope it works out for you.

[Kardashian]

Well I am getting a little tired of waiting for this and the initial anticipation of receiving my first portable mac has worn off. This whole transaction has been unpleasant.

No offense to you, but its your first Mac?

Right.

And you don't sound to clued up on PayPal either.

Firstly, would you buy things from a marketstall if they seemed shifty? I hope the answer would be no. Would you buy things from a FORUM, without any guarantee, feedback or research of any kind, without even getting a Name/Address/DIRECT LANDLINE Contact number? Obviously, you would.

People get conned on eBay, where theres a system of credit card approval, feedback system, apparently 'the works'. For someone to buy something from a website which is there as a forum, meaning there is no guarantee, no feedback system, no nothing. You could send thousands of pounds to this site and not one single person would be obligated to help you (other than credit card companies, should you be lucky enough to be with the right company)

PayPal, well their a fun bunch. Used them for 5 years flawlessly - then one day, they froze my £220 payment, and to locked my account. To this day - I have received not a penny, eventhough the seller has confirmed receipt of the item. PayPal are a joke. Whatever money is sent and received through them is legally theres, read the T&C's. You can send money through PayPal and it can be transferred to another account, used to buy other items, even to a bank account. That account can then be closed, there goes your money.

If you had bought through eBay you would have an over head looking over you, well 3 of them actually - eBay, PayPal and your CC company. Since you didn't even buy from a reputable seller, I'm not sure how much PayPal will even cover you, if at all. You must have paid him for a 'Service' as you have no item number etc to enter on the payment page - this makes it very difficult to prove what you were buying etc.

Did you check he was confirmed? Fully? With a confirmed address? And had previous transactions?

I couldn't even blame the user who has (sadly) 'conned' you - in an age where people are so blind when it comes to computer shopping, if you WERE a disshonest person, who wouldn't jump at the chance. Quick, easy money.

Its on the news all the time about fake sellers etc - you should be more aware.

NEVER send an unknown person money, even PayPal tell you that. NEVER buy from/send to an Unconfirmed address (this means PayPal haven't actually received proof they are who they say they are! WARNING SIGNS?)

Never buy from a forum without other people being able to back up the seller is honest, and trustworthy. And for the love of God, no matter where and who yoy buy from, make sure their communication is good, and honest - and should something go wrong you have a LANDLINE telephone number, email address, postage address and full name etc to track them down and report them to Police.

Unless your item is being held at customs, I highly doubt you will ever receive it, and you have £500(ish) down the drain.

Your best bet is to contact the CC company straight away. Stop sitting around forums hoping for the best, we can't bloody do anything should you be conned - they can! RING THEM NOW!

Even if it turns up, claims and complaints can be reversed - stealing can not. You said your trying to cover your back.. COVER IT!

Don't mean to sound rude but theres no point *****-footing around, you did a silly thing conducting a transaction in this way. If you want any chance of a PowerBook or a refund, contact the Credit Card company AS SOON AS YOU READ THIS!

[Kardashian]

Sca1pel : INSTEAD OF VIEWING DIFFERENT THREADS, AND READING THROUGH THIS ONE, TRY CONTACTING THE POOR SOD WHO'S SENT YOU $900! WE CAN SEE YOUR ONLINE!

[quicksilver77]

he has been in contact with me....but thee is no tracking for the shipment. I don't know why anyone woudl send something via route with no way to track it. He has explained to me that he doe snot get on this site often but when I had researched him before doing the transaction he had numerous posts and such and had a number of threads selling things.

Yes this is my first Mac...my own personally so don't jump down my throat like that without knowing the facts.


Look dude I appreciate the raking over the coals that you did in your post...but you do not know all the facts. I post on his thread so he knows that I am here and wondering what is going on. I did file a complaint with Paypal. It is pending. I can also reverse the paypal transaction through my bank.

I am not here looking for pity. I am using this thread...since it was the original point of contact for the seller. If everything works out and the item does come through then I will post on here. If it doesnt I will post on here as well. It my right...as its your right to crap all over me for doing a transaction like this.

[Kardashian]

Look dude I appreciate the raking over the coals that you did in your post...

Hopefully you'll appreciate me also PM'ing him earlier, telling him none of us take kindly to treating another member that way and to sort his act out!

I did file a complaint with Paypal. It is pending. I can also reverse the paypal transaction through my bank.

In the beginning you were asking what to do, the reason I am being so blunt is its stupid that someone could be so silly when it comes to that amount of money. Another reason is I want to, for use of a better term, drill it into you just how bad these situations can get - so you think about it in the future.

If I was simply being irrate, and trying to give you a hard time, why would I take the time to write so much? Anyway, I hope you either get the PowerBook, or your CC sorts it, either way... be careful!

as its your right to crap all over me for doing a transaction like this.

Oh, please :rolleyes:

[Kardashian]

Personally, I would reverse the transaction now.

PayPal are NOT reliable, as you know, your bank is.

Please, for your sake, reverse it. PowerBooks come up for sale here, on eBay or Apple Refurb. ALL the time - and at similar prices.

Just incase something goes wrong - cancel it now, and get it reversed before its too late. Its not worth the risk, is it?

[quicksilver77]

I read through a past PM and he gave me his phone number. I will call him tonight. I do appreciate the thoughts you posted. I have bought numerous things from the internet before on forums and such and did as much research as I could before making this transaction. I still can't believe it woudl take this long for something to come to Canada from teh US....but another poster on here said that one time it took 3 weeks to receive a package from the states.

[Kardashian]

I read through a past PM and he gave me his phone number. I will call him tonight. I do appreciate the thoughts you posted. I have bought numerous things from the internet before on forums and such and did as much research as I could before making this transaction. I still can't believe it woudl take this long for something to come to Canada from teh US....but another poster on here said that one time it took 3 weeks to receive a package from the states.

Still, better to be safe than sorry.

If HE is above board and genuine, he will understand your concern.. totally, utterly, completely.

You can always resend money once the machine is in your posession... you can't claim it back though.

[CanadaRAM]

USPS Global EMS (http://www.usps.com/global/globalexpressmail.htm)service is usually 4 - 6 days into Canada. Canada Customs should have it no lomger than 2 days for clearing, you may get a notice in the mail that you have to have the PST, GST and clearing fee ready for them in cash when the post office delivers it.

It has a waybill number that you can track here (http://www.usps.com/shipping/trackandconfirm.htm)

The sender should be able to send you the waybill number and a scan or fax of the receipt from the post office.

[quicksilver77]

He said he was going to get a scan done. That was a couple days ago. It was supposedly shipped on May 26th. 3days after he said he would. That i can put up with...life is hectic sometimes. But when I have posted to this thread with all my worries and he doesn't provide me with a tracking number then I have a right to cancel the paypal and contact my bank.

[Kardashian]

He said he was going to get a scan done. That was a couple days ago. It was supposedly shipped on May 26th. 3days after he said he would. That i can put up with...life is hectic sometimes. But when I have posted to this thread with all my worries and he doesn't provide me with a tracking number then I have a right to cancel the paypal and contact my bank.

You have a right to do that NOW!

Please, take the advice of someone who has been conned (well, they tried :p) many times in the past.

1. Reverse your payment to PayPal with your Credit Card company - DO THAT NOW. Leave the dispute open!
2. If the PowerBook does arrive, then re-send the payment - there's no harm in that, your honest - hes kept you waiting, and hasn't kept you updated - you should be allowed to take precautions

That would be the best thing to do.

The PowerBook has already been sent (apparently) - therefore you cancelling the payment won't affect the arrival of the PowerBook.

If you leave this payment as it is, you will be unable to cancel it after a certain point. And once PayPal have taken the money out of your account, and the seller has it - he can do whatever he likes with it. Remember PayPal can only retrieve what is left in the persons' PayPal account.

If you want to be secure of either getting a PowerBook or your money - cancel the payment with your CC NOW!

[quicksilver77]

I didn't use my CC I used my bank account to fund the transfer through Paypal...thats why I am going to the bank.

[Kardashian]

I didn't use my CC I used my bank account to fund the transfer through Paypal...thats why I am going to the bank.

Yay! I'm SO GLAD your going to reverse your payment! :D

[quicksilver77]

I did it before when someone on Ebay tried to scam me. My bank reversed the payment.

[Kardashian]

I did it before when someone on Ebay tried to scam me. My bank reversed the payment.

Thank goodness! All the best of luck then.. :)

[quicksilver77]

Went to the bank. They are looking into it for me. Most times they are very good when I make requests. I emailed the seller 2 times in the past 24 hours. Told him I was very unhappy. No replies. I am about to write this off and let me bank handle it. If they can't do anything....then all i can do is complain on every forum i find this guy on. Might seem pety but to be out $1000.00CA is not good in my books. Communication was the key in this transaction and he did not hold up his end of the bargain. No laptop...no tracking number...no scan of receipt....Nada

[stoavio]

Damn dude, sorry to hear about your bad fortune with this particular transaction. There's always a certain risk one assumes when engaging in transactions over the internet which is why it's important for you to uncover as much information about the person you're dealing with as possible.

I always ask for the seller/buyer's phone number, primary email address, home address, and typically discuss the transaction with them on the phone before finalizing anything.

I hope you get the situation resolved. This guy has basically dashed any shot he may have had of selling or buying anything in this marketplace again.

Good luck!

[California]

File a police report. Also, seller was online yesterday at 3PM so I wouldn't tell the thief anything else about the case. He's returning to the internet scene of the crime.

[quicksilver77]

Well its just so weird. The whole thing actually. In all of his PM's he provides some info. Then when I ask for things...ie: scan of shipping recept or even a tracking number I get no response. I have emailed his other address and the person replied that they had no idea what I was talking about. Thats teh address I used for Paypal. If he had sent the PB it shoudl be here by now from other members have said in this post.

[MUCKYFINGERS]

if sca1pe1 is ripping you off, he's a douche bag


hope it all works out

[nitynate]

I am so sorry man, this seems like a great place to do business, and if you got ripped off, I am so sorry. Your first MR buying experience and it's bad? What's up with that?

I am so sorry and I hope you get your hard earned money back. :)

[MUCKYFINGERS]

sca1pe1, do you have anything to say for yourself?

ootherwise i think every MR member should know not to buy from you or deal with you in any marketplace transaction.

[joshwest]

Yeah i think its lousy this type of thing goes on.... but then again your buying off a forum.. i tried to list my exact same PB noone was intersted everyone was going after his now mines on ebay..

[quicksilver77]

Paypal got half (well almost) of my money back. He emailed me and said it was sent and that he was contacting the PO and putting in an insurance claim. Have not heard anythign from him since.

[amacgenius]

Yeah, this is unfortunate. I've had nothing but good transactions on here, which is why I keep selling and buying here.

I'm kinda of surprised that the seller hasn't come try to make his case on here or anything this whole time.

Same here, still no sour transactions!

[Kardashian]

The little rat replied to my PM, too. He said it had definatley been sent and he's waiting for you to receive it.

I haven't replied but now I might... little tw*t.

[wako]

I say we all go for a road trip and go to his house and give him a nice spanking.


Half of your money? that really sucks. Go back and look at the transaction and see if you had buyers protection on it. If you do, you should be able to get 1000 bucks back atleast.

[MacRumorUser]

I say we all go for a road trip and go to his house and give him a nice spanking.


Half of your money? that really sucks. Go back and look at the transaction and see if you had buyers protection on it. If you do, you should be able to get 1000 bucks back atleast.

^ I'd be in for that. I got scammed last year on ebay for $2500 :o
That's why I mainly stick to MR marketplace. Knowing this has happened is really bloody irritating... but what i dont understand is..

MODS !!! Why has Sca1pel not been banned or blocked from making new threads / posts until this is sorted. It's obvious he has scammed the poor fella. Come on mods, be a little pro-active and boot this douche.

[Kardashian]

..

MODS !!! Why has Sca1pel not been banned or blocked from making new threads / posts until this is sorted. It's obvious he has scammed the poor fella. Come on mods, be a little pro-active and boot this douche.

Here, here.. ;)

[almightyshoe]

I think he should explain himself before being banned; cheating people out of their hard earned money (or what little money they have, in my case) is a reprehensible act. But it also goes without saying that Sca1pel has lost the respect and trust of every single person on this forum, so there really is no point in him lurking around.

[elfin buddy]

I think he should explain himself before being banned; cheating people out of their hard earned money (or what little money they have, in my case) is a reprehensible act. But it also goes without saying that Sca1pel has lost the respect and trust of every single person on this forum, so there really is no point in him lurking around.

A lot of people maybe, but certainly not everyone. I've been using the Marketplace heavily for the past month or so, and I only picked up on this yesterday. I just don't click on things that I'm not particularly interested in ;)

I am happy my interests changed though, or I never would have found out about this Sca1pel fellow.

I'm all for fighting scammers, but I think it's still a tad early to ban him outright and cut off any chance for him to explain himself. But at the very least, a sticky should be posted.

In fact, there should be a blacklist of suspected and confirmed scammers here on MR, as a sticky always at the top of the Marketplace.

[MacRumorUser]

I'm all for fighting scammers, but I think it's still a tad early to ban him outright and cut off any chance for him to explain himself. But at the very least, a sticky should be posted.

In fact, there should be a blacklist of suspected and confirmed scammers here on MR, as a sticky always at the top of the Marketplace.

And how many people will bother to read the list, especially if those on it can still post?

He's had more than enough opportunity at this stage. The fact that your man still hasnt got his powerbook and has had to have paypal refund him, means that as much as we'd like a happy ending, it isnt going to happen. This is the ending.

Your man has lost half his money and sca1pel can still post all he wants.

BAN HIM! Give him a chance if you want to explain to a moderator, but stop anyone else falling for his charms and BAN any further posts.

It's bad enough ebay have a wait and see and do bugger all policy,
but if we want to protect people on this forum action has to be taken SOONER rather than later.

Come on mods.

[elfin buddy]

And how many people will bother to read the list, especially if those on it can still post?

He's had more than enough opportunity at this stage. The fact that your man still hasnt got his powerbook and has had to have paypal refund him, means that as much as we'd like a happy ending, it isnt going to happen. This is the ending.

Your man has lost half his money and sca1pel can still post all he wants.

BAN HIM! Give him a chance if you want to explain to a moderator, but stop anyone else falling for his charms and BAN any further posts.

It's bad enough ebay have a wait and see and do bugger all policy,
but if we want to protect people on this forum action has to be taken SOONER rather than later.

Come on mods.

Hey now, why are you freaking out at me? I didn't take the poor bugger's money.

You can crap on the list idea all you want, but at least it's a start. It may make me a prime target for a scammer, but I tend to keep from jumping to conclusions. I do, however, take measures to cover my ass if there's ever the slightest doubt. I'm very happy that quicksilver77 filed a claim with PayPal as soon as he did.

When was this item shipped? Three weeks ago? I've had cross-border shipments delayed much longer than that. Who are you, MacRumorUser, to claim that "This is the ending"? It sucks that you got scammed out of a heck of a lot of money, but I hope you don't let it ruin your life.

[MacRumorUser]

Who are you, MacRumorUser, to claim that "This is the ending"? It sucks that you got scammed out of a heck of a lot of money, but I hope you don't let it ruin your life.

?? OK ? I wasnt attacking or venting at you at all and youve taken my post completely wrong. I only answered you in the first line, in response to your post about the black list.

I was ephasising for mods to block this ape who has literally 'scalped' the poor guy out of money.

As for me saying who am I to say this is the end - its just a reality check. From past experience, the chance of the powerbook turning up and everyone having a happy ending? None, the only positive thing is if we prevent people like this sca1pel doing it again to anyone else.

Please dont flame me, I wasnt flaming you at all! Just putting my thoughts out there for the mods to help protect us all on the marketplace. I only quoted you to answer the last part about the list, which I did in the first line, yes its handy to have a black list, but in practice it wouldnt work unless a moderator was activly checking it - in which case wouldnt it be simpler for a mod to just catch these people and ban them.

[imacintel]

I am so disgusted that he has not posted back. I will report him using the report the arrow, I hate when i use this feature.
EDIT: Reported using Report Bad Post/Member tool.

[Fuchal]

When was this item shipped? Three weeks ago? I've had cross-border shipments delayed much longer than that.

It's true - especially items marked as expensive or electronics can take a long time to get through the border. My last package to Canada was a hard drive, and it was shipped May 3rd from New York, and finally reached it's destination May 23rd. And that was AIR MAIL.

Hell, it took 3 weeks for a box of speakers to ship from Georgia to New York via parcel post.

[elfin buddy]

?? OK ? I wasnt attacking or venting at you at all and youve taken my post completely wrong. I only answered you in the first line, in response to your post about the black list.

I was ephasising for mods to block this ape who has literally 'scalped' the poor guy out of money.

As for me saying who am I to say this is the end - its just a reality check. From past experience, the chance of the powerbook turning up and everyone having a happy ending? None, the only positive thing is if we prevent people like this sca1pel doing it again to anyone else.

Please dont flame me, I wasnt flaming you at all! Just putting my thoughts out there for the mods to help protect us all on the marketplace. I only quoted you to answer the last part about the list, which I did in the first line, yes its handy to have a black list, but in practice it wouldnt work unless a moderator was activly checking it - in which case wouldnt it be simpler for a mod to just catch these people and ban them.

Sorry, for getting a bit worked up there at the end. Your post appeared to be clearly targeted at me, since you initially quoted me and then reinforced your point with lots of caps, bold, underlines, and even colours. That usually triggers something in my head. For the record though, my last post wasn't meant to be a flame on you.

Anyway, no hard feelings, eh?

Banning proven scammers is fine by me, but I don't think this has gone "beyond a doubt" just yet. I'm sure as Hell not banking on a happy ending, but I'm also not betting my shirt on a nightmare either.

If there were a black list of suspects maintained by mods or members who've been around long enough to be beyond doubt, I think it would help things out a lot. Before making a purchase, a buyer just scans the list for the member with whom they're dealing. Not too tough, is it? And for people who are mistakenly listed, all they've gotta do is explain themselves and resolve the matter. Better safe than sorry is one thing, but shoot first, ask questions later is a whole other ball game.

[MacRumorUser]

Anyway, no hard feelings, eh?

Banning proven scammers is fine by me, but I don't think this has gone "beyond a doubt" just yet. I'm sure as Hell not banking on a happy ending, but I'm also not betting my shirt on a nightmare either.

No hard feelings :)

The reason why I'd say it was over, was simply because if Paypal have refunded the money thats the last action they will do and must have near enough certainty that the seller is bogus / not coming through. They must have investigated it enough to draw that conclusion, they are not likely to just pay up willie nilly, if you know what I mean.

That to me, would basically signal it's the end of the matter, for the poor buyer and them.

Added to the fact that the seller has yet to prove he has actually posted anything, or supply reciepts of postage to the buyer.

It's just a sad mark on the mac rumors marketplace.

[elfin buddy]

The reason why I'd say it was over, was simply because if Paypal have refunded the money thats the last action they will do and must have near enough certainty that the seller is bogus / not coming through. They must have investigated it enough to draw that conclusion, they are not likely to just pay up willie nilly, if you know what I mean.

That to me, would basically signal it's the end of the matter, for the poor buyer and them.

Added to the fact that the seller has yet to prove he has actually posted anything, or supply reciepts of postage to the buyer.

It's just a sad mark on the mac rumors marketplace.

Aye, you do have a point about PayPal. They can be pretty bastardly about giving back money. I've only ever had one seriously negative transaction over the internet, but I acted quickly and PayPal resolved it. All I lost were shipping costs, thank God.

I'm not entirely sure about their policies on giving refunds. I mean, does issuing a refund necessarily mean that the seller is a die-hard scammer? I don't think so, since the claims can be defaulted if one party doesn't respond. Perhaps Sca1pel's poor correspondence is to blame for them reaching a decision so quickly (my claim in February dragged on for over a month).

Either way, this is indeed a sorry set of circumstances.

[quicksilver77]

I wish he woudl post here to at least giv ehis side of the story. Last email I got form him said he was filing an insurance claim with USPS. He said we were both out the money I got back through paypal. Not sure how that is...I suppose if he really did send it then he is out a powerbook but I am still out 600.00. All I have been asking for is a tracking number...plain and simple...said he would scan the slip for me...that was a week ago.

[MacRumorUser]

I wish he woudl post here to at least giv ehis side of the story. Last email I got form him said he was filing an insurance claim with USPS. He said we were both out the money I got back through paypal. Not sure how that is...I suppose if he really did send it then he is out a powerbook but I am still out 600.00. All I have been asking for is a tracking number...plain and simple...said he would scan the slip for me...that was a week ago.

The fact he cant do a simple thing like this, which if anyone else was the seller would have done straight away is very shifty to say the least.

All you have is verbal/written assurance that it exists - which unless he's willing to provide that info you've asked for, counts for nothing.

[ricgnzlzcr]

I wish he woudl post here to at least giv ehis side of the story. Last email I got form him said he was filing an insurance claim with USPS. He said we were both out the money I got back through paypal. Not sure how that is...I suppose if he really did send it then he is out a powerbook but I am still out 600.00. All I have been asking for is a tracking number...plain and simple...said he would scan the slip for me...that was a week ago.

I really feel for you. This is the reason I'm terrified of purchases from ebay and such. I really wish you the best and hope that you can recuperate some more of what you've lost. Best of luck.

[quicksilver77]

Well I have not heard from the seller at all. I got some money back from paypal and they closed the case. I guess I will have to resign to the fact that I am out 600.00 CA. Thanks for all the comments and thought son this board and my posts. I think I am done with online buying. My first real bad experience for alot of money. I hope the seller gets his someday ...coward.

[MacRumorUser]

Well I have not heard from the seller at all. I got some money back from paypal and they closed the case. I guess I will have to resign to the fact that I am out 600.00 CA. Thanks for all the comments and thought son this board and my posts. I think I am done with online buying. My first real bad experience for alot of money. I hope the seller gets his someday ...coward.

I really feel for you. Come on mod's it's time to ban sca1pel and protect others.

[Rower_CPU]

Since quicksilver77 isn't going to pursue the matter further here, we're going to close this thread.

Also, please understand that it takes the moderators some time to perform necessary checks and due diligence when investigating these kinds of issues. Telling us to ban someone a dozen times in a thread doesn't help us any and actually just adds to the noise that we have to sort through. Thanks :)