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iGary
May 26, 2006, 03:44 PM
And who do you pay every month? Do any of our European friends pay the government?

I'm just curious, as our state just deregulated power, and I'm looking at 72% increase in July (about $75.00 a month).

We have a one bedroom apartment with a den/office and it currently runs us about $100.00 a month to Baltimore Gas and Electric.



WildCowboy
May 26, 2006, 03:49 PM
During the summer (no A/C in the Bay Area), we pay about $60 total per month to PG&E for our 2-bedroom house...pretty close to 50/50 electric and gas.

In "winter," we've had bills over $200 just keeping the house at 65 degrees. We rent a drafty old house with lots of windows...

garybUK
May 26, 2006, 03:55 PM
in the UK the market is totally de-regulated, mainland Europe is clinging onto state owned energy companies for dear life.

Biggest ones are E.ON, EDF, Gaz De France, Centrica, Gazprom

I actually work for the uk's largest energy company

faintember
May 26, 2006, 03:58 PM
North Carolina 1br, 1bath apt. Averages at about $40 per month over the past 2 years.
(all electric btw)

andiwm2003
May 26, 2006, 04:02 PM
boston 2 br, $65 electricty (nstar), $50 gas (winter $200) per month

ecche
May 26, 2006, 04:06 PM
Here in New Zealand we pay approx. 50 USD a month in summer and approx 150USD a month in winter. We had a ducted heatpump installed recently, which we find is the most economical and fuss-free way of heating our 3 bedroom home. Most people here still rely on woodburners...hello asthma and goodbye 'green' image, NZ!

iGary
May 26, 2006, 04:07 PM
So...so far, BG&E telling me I'm getting an "at market value" deal at $200.00 a month for a one bedroom spot is totally bogus so far, yeah?

WildCowboy
May 26, 2006, 04:13 PM
So...so far, BG&E telling me I'm getting an "at market value" deal at $200.00 a month for a one bedroom spot is totally bogus so far, yeah?

Well, it depends on your usage. I guess what you really need to look at is your rate.

My parents in Buffalo spend up to $400 a month to heat their house in the winter. I have friends in LA who spend $400 a month to cool their house in the summer.

iGary
May 26, 2006, 04:15 PM
Well, it depends on your usage. I guess what you really need to look at is your rate.

My parents in Buffalo spend up to $400 a month to heat their house in the winter. I have friends in LA who spend $400 a month to cool their house in the summer.

Well just from an averages point of view - I'mn going from an average of 100 a month to 200 a month...

mactastic
May 26, 2006, 04:16 PM
Like $60-70/month in the non-winter months, about $160/month in the winter, all electric 3Br house, no AC, electric forced air heating.

Deregulation sure is a pisser, isn't it? Supposed to cure all that ails the market, but damn near every time some industry is deregulated the corporate masters profit handsomely and the end used gets that shaft.

WildCowboy
May 26, 2006, 04:17 PM
. . .every time some industry is deregulated the corporate masters profit handsomely. . .

And sometimes they go to jail too.

iGary
May 26, 2006, 04:20 PM
Like $60-70/month in the non-winter months, about $160/month in the winter, all electric 3Br house, no AC, electric forced air heating.

Deregulation sure is a pisser, isn't it? Supposed to cure all that ails the market, but damn near every time some industry is deregulated the corporate masters profit handsomely and the end used gets that shaft.

The thing that really bugs me is that there was a compromise bill passed that allows a gradual 25% increase, and you pay some interest, so I go to their site today and there is no info ANYWHERE - just a bunch of PDF's telling me why I should enjoy taking it up the ass on this one.

This company made record profits last year and is acquiring another company. Fair profits I am for - gouging?

Dr.Gargoyle
May 26, 2006, 04:30 PM
in the UK the market is totally de-regulated, mainland Europe is clinging onto state owned energy companies for dear life.

Biggest ones are E.ON, EDF, Gaz De France, Centrica, Gazprom

I actually work for the uk's largest energy company
We are totally de-regulated too in Sweden, so you can basically pick and choose your own provider. However, after the energy market was set "free", our energy prices has more or less gone through the roof. It is a total mess over here now. :(

yellow
May 26, 2006, 04:31 PM
Hmm.. average about $145/month. Heatpump/AC.
Our electric company is actually a co-op owned by the employees.

Dr.Gargoyle
May 26, 2006, 04:44 PM
I would say that I pay around $80/month for electricity alone (not included heating). Since I am more or less always at work and never at home it strike me as a bit expensive. In my case, the heating comes from a central heating station that produces hot water. This hotwater is then transferred through insulated waterpipes in the ground to my house.
Since I am from sweden, we really don't have that much use for AC over here...:(

Lau
May 26, 2006, 04:52 PM
In the UK you can choose a gas company to get your electricity from, and a electricity company to get your gas from. It's all highly complicated, you've got to be fairly on the ball to keep swapping to find a cheaper supplier, or you just give up and stick wth someone.

In our flat we're stuck with a chav-meter, where you have to put credit on a key and put that in the meter - presumably some previous tenants weren't great at paying the bill. It costs more, which is highly annoying (and surely slightly unethical in that poorer people are more likely to have a key/card meter), and has the slight disadvatage that if you forget to top it up the entire house is plunged into darkness...:eek: The gas is on a normal meter though.

I reckon we pay about £80 a quarter on gas, and about £10, maybe £15 every fortnight on electricity.

~Shard~
May 26, 2006, 05:02 PM
About $50/mo for power, and as for energy, about $45/mo in the summer, $155/mo in the winter - this is for our 1800 sq ft. 2-storey 3-bedroom house with vaulted ceilings and an additional 600 sq. ft. basement which isn't the most energy efficient yet. ;) Not too bad for a climate where it can dip to -40 Celsius in the winter and hit +40 Celsius in the summer... :cool:

zelmo
May 26, 2006, 05:11 PM
I'm in Maryland as well. Our 1500 sq. ft. townhouse with an add'l 750 sq. ft. finished basement runs around $120 per month. With the 72% rate hike coming, we can expect to pay an additional $85 or so per month.

Mitthrawnuruodo
May 26, 2006, 05:14 PM
Norway deregulated power prices a couple of years ago, which more or less tripled the price of electricity and doubling the electric bill for most people.

Our small house (77/95 kvm ≈ 828/1022 sqft) is only heated with electric power and our bill is about NOK 1000 ≈ $160 per month, on average, a bit more in Winter and a bit less in Summer (though not much ;)).

CorvusCamenarum
May 26, 2006, 05:20 PM
My bill just came in todays' post - what timing.

This month Alabama Power gets $104.86 from us. Last month they got $98.61, and a year ago, they got $60.54 (they print all that on the bill each month). The house is all electric, and by the end of the summer (which in Alabama can mean October), I'll probably get at least one bill for $150 if not more.

blackfox
May 26, 2006, 05:53 PM
About $50/mo for power, and as for energy, about $45/mo in the summer, $155/mo in the winter - this is for our 1800 sq ft. 2-storey 3-bedroom house with vaulted ceilings and an additional 600 sq. ft. basement which isn't the most energy efficient yet. ;) Not too bad for a climate where it can dip to -40 Celsius in the winter and hit +40 Celsius in the summer... :cool:
Are those Canadian or US dollar figures?

My utilities are free btw (payed by owner). So is my internet.

technicolor
May 26, 2006, 06:14 PM
Usually anywhere from 40-60 all year.

Georgia Power and Light a Southern Power Company

Kingsly
May 26, 2006, 06:38 PM
... more than is should be.

iSaint
May 26, 2006, 07:42 PM
City owned power: $60-80 US/month
Sewer: $10
Garbage: $12
Water: $25

All of the above on the same bill.

Atmos Gas: $50-60.

Gas heat, water heater, stove.

The Gas or the power will fluctuate seasonally by about $30 or more. Winters aren't very hard, maybe some 20 degree days. Late summers are in the high 90s with horrible humidity. It's nothing to have $200 in gas or power at least twice a year.

4 BR 2 Ba house. Approx 2,200 sq. ft.

~Shard~
May 26, 2006, 09:35 PM
Are those Canadian or US dollar figures?

My utilities are free btw (payed by owner). So is my internet.

Canadian of course, why would I pay my bills in USD? :p ;) :D

Hoef
May 26, 2006, 09:49 PM
$240 in April, 3 bedroom Houston .... Probably $400 (Reliant Power) in couple of months from now. Remember Houston is ~95-100 in the summer :(
gas & water dirt cheap....

~Shard~
May 26, 2006, 09:51 PM
$240 in April, 3 bedroom Houston .... Probably $400 in couple of months from now. Remember Houston is ~95-100 in the summer :(

Yeah, it gets that hot here too. Luckily I'm outside so much in the summer that I'm not really around the house to need to run the A/C much at all. Plus I like it hot. ;) :cool:

ITASOR
May 26, 2006, 10:01 PM
Probably not very much considering we keep the heat at 60 in the winter. I absolutely hate heat anyway, and if I go someplace where the heat is over 70, I can't stay there for more than an hour.

blackfox
May 26, 2006, 10:07 PM
Canadian of course, why would I pay my bills in USD? :p ;) :D
Oh, you know you want to...

seriously, many of the nice brits here (among others), are often nice enough to convert various prices to USD, because we here stateside can be a little thick - thought you might be doing the same.

Kingsly
May 26, 2006, 10:08 PM
Oh, you know you want to...

seriously, many of the nice brits here (among others), are often nice enough to convert various prices to USD, because we here stateside can be a little thick - thought you might be doing the same.
You didn't hear? Canadians just aren't very nice. :p

~Shard~
May 26, 2006, 10:15 PM
Oh, you know you want to...

seriously, many of the nice brits here (among others), are often nice enough to convert various prices to USD, because we here stateside can be a little thick - thought you might be doing the same.

My apologies, I'll try to be more considerate in the future for our neighbor's to the south... :p ;) :D

tweakers_suck
May 26, 2006, 10:36 PM
Jan $68
Feb 73
Mar 71
Apr 67
May 57
June 68
July 78
Aug 127
Sept 122
Oct 101
Nov 86
Dec 79

My average electic bill was $83 ± 22 each month.

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I live in the Los Angeles area in a 3 BR house of approximately 1550 sq ft. We use the AC as needed for a few hours in the evening and on weekends. During the winter the forced air gas heater also uses electricity to blow the air through the ducts. I also have a swimming pool in which I run an energy efficient pool pump for 4 hours each day. My house in a circa 1950 stucco ranch sytle home common in this area post WWII. We pay our bill to So-Cal Edison. No rolling blackouts yet.

e²Studios
May 26, 2006, 11:35 PM
And who do you pay every month? Do any of our European friends pay the government?

I'm just curious, as our state just deregulated power, and I'm looking at 72% increase in July (about $75.00 a month).

We have a one bedroom apartment with a den/office and it currently runs us about $100.00 a month to Baltimore Gas and Electric.

I pay around $125 - $150 a month, Summers usually the latter.

Ed

CompUser
May 27, 2006, 12:25 AM
I think its between 200 & 300 for my family's house.

We have oil heat though. I have no idea how much that is.

We have a well so there is no water expense

Koodauw
May 27, 2006, 12:29 AM
usually around $60 for our two bedroom apt. Not bad really, everything is electric, and a/c is central air for the whole building, not per unit.

Jaffa Cake
May 27, 2006, 06:07 AM
Our last bill was £245.31 for the quarter – that's about $460 in your new-fangled American money. Actually, it's for more like four months rather than a quarter because we moved last year and there 'were issues' with npower (the company who supplies us). :rolleyes:

That's to power our little flat entirely over winter – we don't have anything powered by gas. We could probably halve that bill if I could get Miss Jaffa Cake to remember to turn the water and lights off when she's done with them...