Poll: Which browser are you using?

[MacRumors]

Vote: Poll: Which browser are you using? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=132&ref=forums.macrumors.com)

[FelixDerKater]

I use Safari most of the time. Some sites still don't work right, such as my online banking site and webmail. For those, I either use IE or Chimera.

[vniow]

On my Mac, Safari is fine if all I'm doing it looking up one site or doing a quick Google search, for *real* browsing I use Chimera. (tabs)

On my Windows PC, Phoenix. Won't even touch IE even if I had to.

On my Linix PC (well, they're the same, just on different drives) Opera 7. Haven't bothered to download Phoenix yet and don't know it I will, Opera 7 rocks.

[howard]

chimera all the way, i think its faster than safari and i like the look and the tabbed browsing

[janey]

safari. then chimera.

[funkywhat2]

When on a Mac: IE (school), Safari, Opera, Cyberdog

Whn on a PC: IE, Opera

Opera is prefered in both settings, but I'm too lazy to use it in either. Generally, I'll use Safari or IE. Cyberdog is fun, but only in small doses.

[Rower_CPU]

For MR, Chimera, so I can open multiple threads in background tabs.

[arn]

Here are result from before Safari

http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=34

[sparkleytone]

i was using safari, but i switched back to chimera tonight. let me tell you what a BIOTCH it was to get my updated bookmarks back to Chimera. I almost paid for some bookmark managing software. XML seriously needs some standards.

i switched back because, while safari is just as fast most of the time, there are a few sites that just render really slow. there are also alot of sites that make safari groggy and eat alot of CPU time for no apparent reason. just about any site on the IGN network apparently abuses Safari. not that i am a fan of their webdesign either.

[edenwaith]

Why was Phoenix posted? Isn't that a PC-only browser, sort of the sibling to Chimera?

Interesting to see how many people have adopted Safari already, and how few are using Netscape these days. I used to use Netscape a lot, but it just got far too sluggish and bulky to use on a normal basis.

Omniweb has the best looking interface (IMO), and what it does, it does well, but it needs to catch up on the CSS capabilities.

Chimera is an amazing browser, and it is only at the .6 release. Tabbed browsing and a good bookmark system.

Safari - the brushed metal interface is a tad ugly, but it handles many pages pretty well. Bookmark system is interesting, but at times annoying how things are handled.

Anyone notice how IE really hasn't changed much in the past 3 years or so? Absolutely no innovation that I've seen, or even much for improvements. Good thing we have other companies and contributers to provide us with better tools.

[TMA]

Originally posted by edenwaith
Why was Phoenix posted? Isn't that a PC-only browser, sort of the sibling to Chimera?

Someone has made a Mac port of it http://www.kmgerich.com/misc.html it's nothing official or supported but looks interesting. I've not tried it yet.

I go for the Safari & Chimera (soon to be named Camino or something else before its 0.7 release) combo as with quite a few others. What Safari wont handle Chimera usually does. In extreme circumstances I resort to iCab. Yeah it's bad but got to be better than MS IE.

[xjohn]

I, for one, can not imagine viewing Macrumors without the tabbed browsing of Chimera.

It's so convenient to just command-click ten or so links and then view the first one while the others continue to load. I find this especially helpful when using slow dial-up.

I like the beatiful (if sometimes eratic) rendering in safari, but can't bring myself to let go of the tabbed browsing in Chimera.

Is it true that Hyatt has said that tabbed browsing is coming to Safari? Some have said that tabs are too 'professional', but I find tabbed browsing to be an *incredibly* intuitive and clean way to browse multiple web sites.


by the way... this is my first post, after being a lurker for way too long, so I hope it works...

[mac15]

Safari, but I'm still a fan of chimera but my bookmarks need to be changed over

[blakespot]

So where's 'Links' (http://links.sourceforge.net/) shown in the mix?



blakespot

[Bear]

I have both Safari and Netscape 7.0.2 on my systems.

I have removed Internet Exploder totally. This iincludes, preferences, cache, and the package info from the IE security updates.

I got sick of applicationss having their readme's being set to open with IE. Whether or not they had html code in them. Of course having IE pop open was annoying as well.

Will I ever get down to one browser? It depends on how good Safari gets. Will the other browser always be Netscape? Probably not. I'm probably goign to switch to Mozilla.

[pivo6]

Originally posted by arn
Here are result from before Safari

http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=34

That poll must have also been before Chimera v 0.6 which is my preferred browser, although I do use Safari at times.

Glenn

[beez7777]

i use safari now, just because i guess it's fast enough, even though it's kind of ugly. before safari came out, i really liked omniweb. i think it looked by far the nicest, which made up for its slowness.

[Centris 650]

Safari 100% though I do keep netscape in my dock too...just in case. The day I downloaded Safari I took IE off. I had the worst time with it. I've never really had a problem with Safari. It's worked great and opened every page I've been to. I just wish it had an auto-fill feature.

[iWantAMac]

IE. (I haven't switched yet)

[-hh]

I tend to use IE 99% of the time, because I find it to be reasonable, and I also want to see how my webpages view with what's the most common browser.

I used to use Netscape, but the last version that I really liked was version 3. The latter versions were bloaty & slow, which was what pushed me over to IE.

I used Netscape 3 up until last summer for reading USENET Discussion Groups (News) because I really (really, really, really) liked the layout & features of its Newsreader: it was exactly what I wanted. The only reason I stopped using it was because my ISP tighted up its security and it no longer was supported.

Since all M$ products seem to stink for good, efficient (fast) threaded reading for Newsgroups, I've moved over to using MT-Newsreader. I consider it to be "almost as good as Netscape 3" for the features I like...there's only a couple of buttons missing that would make it perfect. Its well worth its shareware fee.

Getting back to pure web browsing, I find Opera to be OK, and I think I've tried Safari and found that it doesn't display my very plain vanilla home webpages properly (they're fine on Netscape, Opera & IE). Until Safari can pass that very simple personal litmus test, I'm not going to use it for surfing elsewhere.


-hh

[DakotaGuy]

I would say I prefer Safari, but I still find myself using IE quite a bit. I have a K12 email account on Microsoft Outlook Web Access, and Safari does not work worth a darn on there. We also have been mandated in the state of South Dakota to keep all of our grades and attendance on a web program called, School Campus Extra. Granted this entire program is still in what I consider a "beta" like version. I hate this thing, but we are required to use it. Everytime they re-write it, it appears to get slower! Anyhow the only browser that works decent with these pages is IE. For the benefit for all Mac people that teach in my state I hope IE stays on the Mac so I can use it for my grades.

[timbloom]

I am completely in love with safari, but I do use chimera for sharereactor still, safari won't block all popups from there for some reason, and the tabbed browsing makes their slug of a site more bearable

[medea]

Originally posted by arn
Here are result from before Safari

http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=34
Looks like apple did it's job, where as the majority used to use IE they are now using Safari. Apple must feel pretty good about that.

[bdkennedy1]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
i was using safari, but i switched back to chimera tonight. let me tell you what a BIOTCH it was to get my updated bookmarks back to Chimera. I almost paid for some bookmark managing software. XML seriously needs some standards.


You must be running an old version of Chimera then. My version imports and exports bookmarks.

[Thirteenva]

Safari has really grown alot in a short time, the latest build is so leaps and bounds better than the first one released that it is now my default browser(replacing chimera). My only quabble with safari right now is no tabs. But for speed safari wins hands down.
And flash content ?? No contest safari blows them all away in terms of speed and usability. Chimera drops frames on alot of high frame rate complex flash movies, and try to have multiple windows of flash running in chimera at the same time, it slows to a crawl and sometimes crashes. IE flash contents is rediculously slow(what do you want from a bloated browser). I am so glad safari came along so i can demo my flash work on my mac for clients rather than searching out a pc.
Alot of rendering problems of been fixed with the last build, and the javascript and css support is just as good if not better than chimera, and blows IE out of the water. I'm so glad safari has come along, My major fault with OS X has been the lack of a good all around browser and the way safari is coming along i no longer have to worry....

[sparkleytone]

Originally posted by bryank1
You must be running an old version of Chimera then. My version imports and exports bookmarks.

ummm, try importing your safari bookmarks. just because it has the feature doesn't mean it instantly works 100% of the time. Especially when one is dealing with XML.

[mc68k]

i like chimera. mostly the same as safari, but has tabs and is more developed. i enjoy being able to DL the nighlty builds too insted of the 1 every 2 months offered by apple.

[stromie952]

Definitely still using Chimera/Camino/Navigator (whatever they want to call it). I can't live without tabs anymore. And I am also not a fan of the look of Safari. Mostly, I don't like the loading of the web site progress in the web site bar. Now that Chimera has a download manager (not done, but still OK) I will very rarely open another browser (except Mozilla for newsgroups and others just for fun, except IE, of course)

[MacFan25]

I use Safari. I really like it a lot. Almost all of the pages that I have tried to go to come up in Safari.

[szark]

I have been using Safari more and more, but I use Mozilla as my main browser for a consistent browsing interface across my PC, Mac, and Sun systems.

[neilt]

i just posted the 666th vote for safari......
i am doomed

neil

[WinterMute]

Safari now, used to use Netscape, don't have much use for tabs...

Real interested to see what Apple do with the final release.

[prewwii]

... because of the poor handling of bookmarks with Safari. I might be missing something because it takes an extra click with Safari to get to the same URL I can find in one with Chimera or just about any other browser.

What is the purpose of the next page before getting the opportunity to choose a URL?

Apple can do a lot better than the current bookmark offering.

Speed wise there are several sites that render faster with Chimera. Animation on some sites does not work with Safari.

Safari is what it says it is BETA and not ready for primetime yet. For right now I need convience and speed so I will continue with Chimera.

[jayscheuerle]

Why would anyone prefer Safari over Chimera?
(other than blind Apple loyalty)

[edesignuk]

Chimera baby!!! Unless Safari gets tabs I will stick with it to, sorry apple, but so far for me Safari just doesn't cut it.

[yzedf]

Originally posted by blakespot
So where's 'Links' (http://links.sourceforge.net/) shown in the mix?



blakespot

Dude, it's all about Lynx (http://www.trill-home.com/lynx.html) :D

[yzedf]

Windows (at work) - Phoenix 0.5 or IE 6

Linux (at home) - Mozilla 1.3b

Mac - was using iCab until Safari came out.

I miss tabs when I use the g/f's Mac... by the time I can buy one, Safari should have them.

[goofbutt]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Why would anyone prefer Safari over Chimera?
(other than blind Apple loyalty)


I agree 100% with you. Safari is nice, but it still needs some work and I feel Chimere is hands above Safari (Tabs, Autofill, bookmarks, tabs through forms, speed and just the overall look is better IMO)

[Doctor Q]

Who needs a web browser when you can open a Terminal window, telnet to port 80 at a site, and type your own GET requests? ;)

For more practical cases, I'm in the 1% using Omniweb. I love the cookie handler and am too lazy (er, I mean too busy with more important work) to switch to Safari.

[pimentoLoaf]

I use Safari once in awhile, but it can't handle the cookies over at Guardian Unlimited (http://www.guardian.co.uk).

Otherwise, if IE locks up, I flip to OmniWeb. Also, it's odd how I can't access Netscape Mail properly with Netscape or Mozilla, so I use something else instead.

[ibookin']

Safari, then Chimera

[Freg3000]

I use Safari, then Chimera, and then IE as a last resort when the other two go out of their minds . . .

. . . or I do . . . :)

[DaveGee]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Why would anyone prefer Safari over Chimera?
(other than blind Apple loyalty)

Hmmm

Blind Apple Loyalty?!?!

Chimera written by a group of darn fine programmers.
Safari written by the same company that writes the OS.

Chimera - Fast 20MB+
Safari - Fast and WELL under 10MB

Chimera 'just a browser' (nothing wrong with that)
Safari a FRAMEWORK that other developers will be able to make use of.

I'm NOT bashing Chimera but if I'm asked to back a horse that horse would be Safari... Anyone who says different just has blind loyalty for Chimera... Or an unhealthy addiction to tabs (keychain support is missed tho...) :p :D

Dave

[wdlove]

I guess I'm one of the few Internet Explorer holdouts. Have no other choice at the moment!

[janey]

changed my mind (as usual):
Safari -> Chimera -> Mozilla -> Phoenix -> Opera -> Netscape -> OnmiWeb -> every browser on earth -> Internet Explorer.

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by -hh
I tend to use IE 99% of the time, because I find it to be reasonable, and I also want to see how my webpages view with what's the most common browser.


Well, you do have to be careful in considering 'IE' the most popular browser and that is what is going to display on all versions of IE. My most hated browser is IE 5 & 6 for the PC. On some of my web pages, especially those which use the display: block effect for CSS, tend to not work properly under the PC versions. The Mac version of IE displays this with no problem. All other Mac browsers display this with no problem.

If you want a browser which displays things evenly, whether it be PC, Linux, or Mac, Netscape 7 is the way to go.

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by Doctor Q

For more practical cases, I'm in the 1% using Omniweb. I love the cookie handler

I'm with you there. I enjoy the look of Omniweb, the download manager is the best (IMO), and the Start Speaking command is kind of cool. And the spell check in forms is indispensable.

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by neilt
There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those that don't

I love that phrase. Another one I enjoy is:

"There are three types of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't."

[RBMaraman]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Why would anyone prefer Safari over Chimera?
(other than blind Apple loyalty)

Well, I use Safari 100% (now that my online banking works). I never used tabs in Chimera, so I don't really care if Safari gets them (but it would be nice for those who want them), and Safari is MUCH faster than Chimera (at least for me, anyway). When I first started using Safari, I didn't think it was that much faster. But, after a week of using only Safari, I opened Chimera and it seemed as slow as IE. Overall, I just like the feel of Safari more than I like Chimera (or whatever the name will be once they change it).

[Seminal]

I've always had a thing for brushed metal. It's great to see this much info in such a small space with so much style (ok, in *my* opinion).

What I think alot of people would like to see is a browser that is compatable with IE6 or IE6 for OS X. I browse Real Estate Title sites and local Multiple Listing Service web sites and they only support IE6, so I gotta hook up the Windows laptop, or do Virtual PC.

[Flickta]

I would love to use Safari, but it won't work. Well, I guess, it more a problem of OSX setup, but I have to use my old Umax and IE. Argh!!!

[shadowfax]

i still think that chimera is still the über mac browser. it's perfectly beautiful, it's plenty fast, and i never have problems, ever. that said, the only thing it really has over safari is tabs. when will safari get these? i think they are just as important as the back/forward buttons.

[scem0]

On a mac I prefer Chimera, but I use a PC with Opera, so I put 'other'.

[charboneau]

I'm using Mozilla, but as soon as I can find someone to burn a copy of Safari for me, I'll switch. Can't download it, *&^%& dial-up connection.

[Datazoid]

Can't download it, *&^%& dial-up connection.

Why not, its only 2.9 MB...even on dial-up that shouldn't be more than 10 minutes or so...

[Kethoticus]

I use three different browsers:

* Internet Explorer, when I need something reliable and stable;

* Navigator, which is becoming my main browser due to its ability to block cookies and pop-ups, not to mention that it seems faster than any other Mac browser I've used; and

* Safari, on occasion. The other two browsers offer me more right now. It would be nice if I could import all of my Explorer bookmarks into Safari, as I have no desire to re-save all of my hundreds of pages. Shame too, as I really like the interface of Safari. I like how Apple's creating a uniform interface scheme for all of their consumer apps.

[iWantAMac]

Originally posted by Datazoid
Why not, its only 2.9 MB...even on dial-up that shouldn't be more than 10 minutes or so...
10 minutes? Theoretically, yes.... in effect, it would usually take longer than that. (I wouldn't mind betting you used a calculator to come up with that download time of 10 minutes ;) )

Still, I'm also wondering why he wouldn't be able to download that file on his conection...

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by Datazoid
Why not, its only 2.9 MB...even on dial-up that shouldn't be more than 10 minutes or so...

Actually, it's probably a little closer to 30 minutes, depending on the speed. During the sad days when I was stuck in an old house with awful phone lines, I would tend to get kicked off every 5 minutes or so, which became VERY irritating. But if one downloads around 2 KB/s, that is roughly one megabyte per 10 minutes.

Ah, I love my broadband. One of the cruelest things is to have to go back to a modem. I've had to do that a few times, and it always hurts.

One thing which is interesting is to look at the polls and see how many users have flocked to Safari. In some ways, Mac users and Windows users aren't so different at times. Mac users are blinded by love. Windows users are blinded by ignorance and/or stupidity.

Okay, at least those who went to Safari did it 100% willingly because they had to download it. I don't know of Safari coming pre-installed on any machines, just yet.

[scem0]

Actually, it's probably a little closer to 30 minutes, depending on the speed. During the sad days when I was stuck in an old house with awful phone lines, I would tend to get kicked off every 5 minutes or so, which became VERY irritating. But if one downloads around 2 KB/s, that is roughly one megabyte per 10 minutes.

I know exactly how you feel. I could not live without broadband...

;) :p

[bcsimac]

I use them all and I have all of them installed.

by percentage of use:

IE: 60%
Mozilla : 4%
Netscape: 4%
Opera: 9%
Safari: 12%
Chimera or Camino: 2%
iCab: 8%
OmniWeb: 1%


I use netscape for certain chat sites that IE and safari choke on. I use IE for most stuff only because some web sites won't render in anything else than IE. I started to use Safari a lot except that it somehow stripped IE of its Favorites and that made me mad. The rest I use because of whim.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by scem0
I know exactly how you feel. I could not live without broadband...

;) :p

Broadband is great, just wish they would start lowering the price. I've read articles saying that it is overpriced! What are your thoughts?

[scem0]

Originally posted by wdlove
Broadband is great, just wish they would start lowering the price. I've read articles saying that it is overpriced! What are your thoughts?

I would pay 10 times the amount I pay now for it. ;)

But lower prices are always good. :D :D

[Platform]

Just downloaded Opera v8.0 and it is great :D

Tabbed browsing is great :rolleyes:

[Kethoticus]

I've been using Firefox in both Mac OS and Windows. But especially Windows, what with all the security issues associated with MS's software and all.

I also use Safari on my Mac. The only time I use IE is when I jump into OS 9.

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Since I left the dark side I have become addicted to Safari. I like the interface. I don't see much difference in performance comparing with e.g. IE

[benwa02]

Since I left the dark side I have become addicted to Safari. I like the interface. I don't see much difference in performance comparing with e.g. IE

I feel just about the same. I love safari. I just officially switched last saturday with a dualy PM and looooove it!!! OS X Tiger is AMAZING!!! I am considering dl'n a second browser cuz I have vaguely heard about safaris weakness about virus going through it to widgets. I have heard about a little about camino and firefox but dont know which to pick.

I have felt a boost in internet performance when I switched from a PC with IE to my PM with safari.

[Dr.Gargoyle]

I feel just about the same. I love safari. I just officially switched last saturday with a dualy PM and looooove it!!! OS X Tiger is AMAZING!!! I am considering dl'n a second browser cuz I have vaguely heard about safaris weakness about virus going through it to widgets. I have heard about a little about camino and firefox but dont know which to pick.

I have felt a boost in internet performance when I switched from a PC with IE to my PM with safari.
Virus....? You are talking about malwares right? Not virus. IE on XP is terrible, but I have never heard anything about Safari on OSX.

[Tech^salvager]

IE or Maxthon

[benwa02]

Virus....? You are talking about malwares right? Not virus. IE on XP is terrible, but I have never heard anything about Safari on OSX.

yea I think I mean malware. I never had any problems with IE on XP with virus' or the like but I not your everyday. There are a few threads talking about widgets being malware automatically installed onto your system through safari. I didnt really read much in the threads but I think I have the jist of whats going on. They are just talking about the potential widgets have to be virus' etc...

[Dr.Gargoyle]

yea I think I mean malware. I never had any problems with IE on XP with virus' or the like but I not your everyday. There are a few threads talking about widgets being malware automatically installed onto your system through safari. I didnt really read much in the threads but I think I have the jist of whats going on. They are just talking about the potential widgets have to be virus' etc...
I haven't looked into it, but I don't think it is problem even close to what you subject yourself to when you use IE under XP. The keyword is that it might be a problem. I dont think there is any reason to avoid Safari just because widgets could carry malware. Besides, as I have understood it, you can set the preferences in safari such that it isn't a problem.