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MacRumors
Feb 21, 2003, 01:25 AM
pyrotoaster wrote in that Apple is now offering a special deal on the 10GB iPod

If you buy a 10 GB iPod (and only a 10 GB iPod) from the Apple online store between now and March 14, Apple will give you a free XtremeMac Get Connected Kit.


The March 14th date has spawned some speculation (http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=003088) that updates may be delayed until then, however MacUnderground (http://macunderground.blogspot.com/2003_02_16_macunderground_archive.html#89468447) feels this deal implies that that the iPod line will be revised before March 14th.



janey
Feb 21, 2003, 02:17 AM
Why is it called the XtremeMac Get Connected Kit? well it's still better than iConnect of something...

TMA
Feb 21, 2003, 03:27 AM
Well I haven't found where it says they're bundling it for free but here is the blurb on the XtremeMac Get Connected Kit (not made by Apple):

"The 6-Piece Get Connected Audio Bundle expands the capabilities of the iPod by enabling connectivity to car stereos, home stereo systems, cassette players and computer speakers.

Bundle Includes:

* iShare Earbud Splitter
* Xwire Gold Male/Male & Male/Female Cables
* Xwire Gold RCA Audio Cable
* Premium iPod Car Charger
* iPod Cassette Adapter "

Its listed as an extra for $39.99 but I can't see any mention of a bundle deal? Am I looking in the right place? Perhaps someone else could try looking in case I missed something. No I really can't see anything :confused:

chewbaccapits
Feb 21, 2003, 04:24 AM
Whatever..I still say next week on the 24th or 25th.

pyrotoaster
Feb 21, 2003, 06:16 AM
When I submitted this, I didn't mean to suggest that the iPod release will be after March 14, but before then.

If Apple was going to release the updated iPods after the 14th, why would they only offer the deal on the 10 GB model? The 20 GB one is rumored to slim down a bit, but the 10 is supposed to stay the same.

I strongly believe that this is evidence to support a pre-14th release, not a post-14th one.

Also, this would appear to confirm that the 10 GB model will not be changing at all in the next update. It also supports rumors of the 5 GB's demise, and the minor 20 GB change mentioned above.

TMA
Feb 21, 2003, 06:56 AM
Where did you read about this? I've been checking Apple.com and the online store this morning and this afternoon and I don't see the offer?

sparks9
Feb 21, 2003, 08:09 AM
If Apple was clearing their inventory they would make the offer available to windows podders too. I think this is nothing...

sedarby
Feb 21, 2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by chewbaccapits
Whatever..I still say next week on the 24th or 25th.
Yes and everyone was convinced that the 18th was the day for new iPods. Whatever...

iBookJay
Feb 21, 2003, 08:20 AM
Is it me or have the iPod rumors gone out of control, and also, do they have any real basis?
It seems to me that many iPod rumors, and the status given in the buyers guide stating that we should wait because upgrades are imminent, are less based on real evidence then mere assumptions that upgrades are due.
I have been waiting to buy an iPod for months now, but first was told to wait for MWSF, then when that didn't happed I was supposed to wait because at any minute they would come. Here I am though, months later - iPodless.
Now, this isn't a rumors-site-bash-session. I love MacRumors. I am merely saying, that the rumor frenzy over iPod upgrades are just based on people talking it up in forums and no actual real evidence. The only thing close to evidence is the introduction fo the new Toshiba drives, but even that requires some time for Apple to integrate. (2-3 months from what I hear)
I just wish that the frenzy of iPod rumors was based more on hard info. Even the MacRumors buying guide says that you should wait to buy an iPod because they will be updated soon, BUT this is not based on any hard evidence, just a lot of forum talk.
So where does this leave me? Frantically checking MacRumors for some real info, and hoping to wake up one morning and see the Apple store stie under construction...

MrBillGates
Feb 21, 2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Macrumors
pyrotoaster wrote in that Apple is now offering a special deal on the 10GB iPod

The March 14th date spawns speculation that updates will not arrive before that date.

Apple can change any aspect of the promotion on a whim if they like. I think Steve jobs is just trying to screw with our minds (and enjoying it).... get everyone thinking that we've got to wait another 3 weeks and then... BANG... new iPods next week.


Bill Gates

seamuskrat
Feb 21, 2003, 08:52 AM
For what its worth. The folks at MacWhispers.com have gone out on a limb and virtually guaranteed a next Tuesday release for basic iPods with increased space, same price points. So doube the storage for the same money as iPods of today.
They seen VERY confident. Of course, its all speculation and rumors.
But I do feel its logical for Apple to release another product soon and I doubt the PB are ready.

psxndc
Feb 21, 2003, 09:49 AM
Because my birthday is March 21st and an iPod is what I'm going to buy for myself.

But ONLY if it has an audio/mic in. Do you hear me Apple? Add an $.08 mic jack, and you get several hundred dollars. Don't add it, and you don't. Simple. I know several others here that feel the same way.

-p

vanillamike
Feb 21, 2003, 09:54 AM
This deal wasn't made available to everyone via the promotions on the website was it?

If it isn't available to all consumers, and only to people with coupon codes then I can't see any reason why a special promotion to a selected few would stop a revision from being released before March 14th, 2003.

I think this is just insentive to buy a 10GB, however, I am not sure why they singles out the 10GB (and the 10GB only).

Mike

pyrotoaster
Feb 21, 2003, 10:29 AM
Hi there, considering my username is a central part of this little blurb, I think I should clear up whatever I can.

What I know:
- This was an email from Apple, with a direct link to the deal. It only specified the 10 GB iPod, and it doesn't appear to be available through the Apple website, and is not valid at Apple Retail Stores.

What I think this means:
- iPod updates before March 14! The blurb says after, but that's Mac Rumors talking, not me.
If Apple were to update iPods after the 14th, the deal would (in theory, at least) include the 20 GB model.
- The real gem here isn't the date, it's the model. Let's assume that Apple is updating the iPod line before the 14th (I'd be surprised if they let the "Holiday Demand" excuse run into March).
That means the 20 GB model is changing. Why? Because it isn't offered in the deal. It's that simple.

One last thing I want to touch on:
Originally posted by iBookJay
...It seems to me that many iPod rumors, and the status given in the buyers guide stating that we should wait because upgrades are imminent, are less based on real evidence then mere assumptions that upgrades are due...
Upgrades are due. The last revision to the iPod line was at MWNY, and since then quite a bit has changed.
Most importantly, Toshiba has quit making the 5 GB drive, and forced Apple into not selling the 5 GB iPod. This leaves a gaping hole at the low end of the iPod line. Apple knows that it needs a $299 model, which is what the 10 GB one is supposed to become.
Maybe Apple will settle for a two Pod line, with a $299 10 GB and a $399 slimmer 20 GB. We are making assumptions about the possibility of a 40 GB model, but there's evidence to back those assumptions up.
My advice, don't buy an iPod now. You'll have a $100 case of Apple buyer's remorse afterwards.

unc32
Feb 21, 2003, 10:31 AM
I received the offer via an email from apple.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?multiplePN=M8737LL/A,T5862LL/A&htns=KMVT336AEM

Floop
Feb 21, 2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by iBookJay
Is it me or have the iPod rumors gone out of control, and also, do they have any real basis?
It seems to me that many iPod rumors, and the status given in the buyers guide stating that we should wait because upgrades are imminent, are less based on real evidence then mere assumptions that upgrades are due.
I have been waiting to buy an iPod for months now, but first was told to wait for MWSF, then when that didn't happed I was supposed to wait because at any minute they would come. Here I am though, months later - iPodless.

I totally agree!

If they are released next week, then hooray... but does it make me feel the rumour sites have any foresight, or base their information on evidence rather than supposition? No.

They have been saying "new iPods will be released next week" every week since November. They have to be right some time, but that doesn't make them prophets, and more than if I said "Mac OS X 10.3 will be announced next week", every week, until it is finally announced.


Floop

PyroTurtle
Feb 21, 2003, 12:57 PM
as long as the update is before augest...

RLB
Feb 21, 2003, 03:00 PM
There is no way they can keep up the holiday demand excuse through mid March.

arn
Feb 21, 2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by iBookJay
Is it me or have the iPod rumors gone out of control, and also, do they have any real basis?
It seems to me that many iPod rumors, and the status given in the buyers guide stating that we should wait because upgrades are imminent, are less based on real evidence then mere assumptions that upgrades are due.
=

Well... there's a reason these are posted on Page 2....

Page 2 rumors, I would suggest reading with the same authority as forum posts.

Reports that I feel are reliable or based in truth are posted on the main page.

The only iPod rumor that made it to the front page are this:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030216235153.shtml

So yes... I think iPod updates are coming... but much of the webtalk is reflective of the fact that they haven't been updated in a while, and we know the toshiba drives are in the works.

arn

MacFan25
Feb 21, 2003, 03:57 PM
So I wonder if they will discontinue the 10 GB or just make it slimmer.

sparks9
Feb 22, 2003, 04:48 AM
According to the toshiba Hd-specifications the 10 gig should remain as it is now, but the 20 gig should get as thin as the 10 gig.
The 40 gig will be the size of todays 20 gig.
The 5 gig will be discontinued.

g30ffr3y
Feb 22, 2003, 09:32 AM
They have been saying "new iPods will be released next week" every week since November.


and every week i check the apple page let down for another week... its always something that makes it a sure bet... MWSF... then with the release of iLife... then when the toshiba drives were announced... now after the 10 gig sale... how about when itunes 4 is released in april??? maybe there is just no more ipod as we know it... apple is on to conquer another market... its just as much a sure bet as size bumped ipods on the 25th...

san
Feb 22, 2003, 11:26 AM
I also got an offer from Apple expiring on March 14 .... for $100 off a Fuji 3800 digital camera!

Perhaps it is a coincidence that both offers expire on March 14, perhaps not. I should note, however, that Fuji has already announced a new series of digital cameras that arguably makes the 3800 a potential clearance item.

esbod
Feb 22, 2003, 08:15 PM
In my opinion one of the driving factors behind iPod speculation is
Job's promise that 2003 will be the year of NEW products.

My personal expecation is that Apple plans to bring
something new about every 4 - 5 weeks. This may be a software
product like iLife or new digital device or speed bumps to existing
models. We are seeing a lot of "product turn" in a short time period.
"New and/or Improved" drives retail. Why drive retail - the stores.

2003 can not turn out to be "business as usual" because
Apple has adopted the retail store model. Apple
must keep the public interested and drive them into the
new Apple stores. Having retail stores drives the need to
"turn" you product like to put something new in the window.
If everytime you walked by an Apple Store there was the iMac
in the window there would be declining interest.

What's in the window next week - 3 new iPods. I'd also look
to see home audio and look for the intergration of home
digital coming. iHome!

RandomDeadHead
Feb 24, 2003, 06:23 PM
Anyone here who demands an audio in jack on the new iPod, is NOT a pro audio person. Gripe all you want but, audio in on a iPod would just turn it into a voice recoder like the ones they sell a wallmart for 20 bucks.

The ONLY way to get DECENT portable recording is to drop $ 2200.00 on a Tascam DA-P1 portable DAT deck. I have used these to record over 300 Grateful Dead , 48 Bruce Hornsby, 35 Dave Matthews band, and 3 snake oil medicine show, concerts live.

People BEGGED sony for the longest time to make a portable mini disc recorder, and what happend when they did? Now you have children going to concerts with less than $500 worth of gear, makeing the absolute WORST sounding recordings known to man. To top it all off these are the kids that illeagly sell these tapes in the parking lot at shows, (when I see this happining I stand in front of them and offer their customers much better sounding, FREE copyies of concerts).

Sorry for the rant but it pisses me off when when I lug my $8000.00 rig to a concert and sit becide a kid who has a Minidisc recorder and a pair of wallmart mics, who knows NOTHING about live recording, But thinks he knows it all cuz he has seen phish five times.

Untill you have(for the love of the music) driven accross the country 12 times, slept in tents camped out on asphalt parking lots more times than you can count, sold grilled cheeze sandwiches in parking lots for gas money to make it to the next show, dodged cops, children, old people, hippies, security guards, and people wasted out of their minds to find your place in the taper section, come home and spin 20 copyies of each show to make shure that it is seeded properley, YOU HAVE NOT THE RIGHT TO BITCH.

Thats like begging Apple to include pci slots on the iMac, if you need to do something professional than get a Power mac.

If you need a good quality portable audio recorder, I dont think a mp3 player such as an iPod would be your best choice.


But if they were to put two xlr jacks on the side of the thing, I would buy one.

psxndc
Feb 24, 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by RandomDeadHead
Anyone here who demands an audio in jack on the new iPod, is NOT a pro audio person. Gripe all you want but, audio in on a iPod would just turn it into a voice recoder like the ones they sell a wallmart for 20 bucks.


DeadHead, to be honest, you're right. I'm not a pro audio person, but an audio/mic in is exactly what i want. A voice recorder that has 20 gigs of storage for my week of class lectures. And I want them digital so I can transfer them to CD easily. I'm not looking for ultra quality, just lots of storage and something that can double as my "walkman". And audio/mic in for the iPod is my deal maker.

-p

PyroTurtle
Feb 24, 2003, 09:34 PM
amen! the iPod does not NEED audio in...
it might be nice i guess...but not needed...maybe digital in...
i just wish it had 5.1 out...or optical out....ya it "needs" that!

g30ffr3y
Feb 24, 2003, 09:45 PM
that was a harsh rant though... i think most people want an audio in just to do small dictations and the like... maybe tape a class at college, not make pro audio recordings of washed out hippie bands... i dont think the ipod will ever turn into a portable DAT deck or a MIDI device like i saw on another thread, or was it this one, there are so many ipod threads i dont know which is which... but in the end they are all the same and ill probably never get an ipod...

pev
Feb 26, 2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by RandomDeadHead
[B]Anyone here who demands an audio in jack on the new iPod, is NOT a pro audio person.

Whatever. They may be a musician wanting to record ad-hoc sampling material when on the move though. Is that any less a just cause?

Gripe all you want but, audio in on a iPod would just turn it into a voice recoder like the ones they sell a wallmart for 20 bucks.
Thats still useful. I don't know any audio recorders that could (for example) record several weeks of a students lectures without needing dumping. I would have loved that when I was a student.

The ONLY way to get DECENT portable recording is to drop $ 2200.00 on a Tascam DA-P1 portable DAT deck.
Thats rubbish. You can get decent DAT recorders for less. You could use an ibook and high quality MOTU audio interface for the same...

I have used these to record over 300 Grateful Dead , 48 Bruce Hornsby, 35 Dave Matthews band, and 3 snake oil medicine show, concerts live.
Sorry, but as arguments go, that means you record lots and spend lots of money on hardware. It doesnt mean that you are skilled, knowledgeable or even correct... (I'm not saying you're not, just that your point is irrelevent)

Now you have children going to concerts with less than $500 worth of gear, makeing the absolute WORST sounding recordings known to man.
People listen to recordings of music for emotional quality not sound quality. For most kids thats the most important thing. When you were younger, given no budget I think youd settle for a rough and ready recording instead of nothing.

To top it all off these are the kids that illeagly sell these tapes in the parking lot at shows, (when I see this happining I stand in front of them and offer their customers much better sounding, FREE copyies of concerts).
A rubbish recording isnt likely to detract from a bands sales. A good one is. Both actions are illeagal, which is likely to cause the band most harm though?

Untill you have(for the love of the music) driven accross the country 12 times, slept in tents camped out on asphalt parking lots....
If you are doing it just for the music why rant about something that doesnt impact your recordings? Why shout about what you're doing? Why put down things other younger, less well funded people are doing for the same reasons? Everyone has to start somewhere, and as for selling bootlegs, both poorly equipped and well equipped people do it. Your horse is way too high...

But if they were to put two xlr jacks on the side of the thing, I would buy one.
XLR connectors are used for connecting balanced line. Balanced line is used to reduce the effects of interference on audio signals over long runs not short distances. An XLR connector on the side would offer no improvement in sound quality. It would not mean the internal A->D's sound any better. It would not mean you would get fewer artifacts from recording compressed audio. Thats a really strange thing to say in the light of your previous comments.

~Pev