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MacRumors
Jun 4, 2006, 06:30 PM
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Several readers have pointed out that analyst Peter Misek has commented that Research In Motion (makers of the Blackberry) and Apple may partner to make an iTunes-compatible Blackberry. Misek has previously accurately predicted a partnership between RIM and Intel. The globeandmail.com reports (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060602.wappleberry0603/BNStory/Business/home) the following:

Such a deal would have huge merit because each company lacks what the other provides. RIM wants a firm foothold in the consumer market and Apple doesn't have a presence in the booming wireless data sector, he said.

The two might jointly develop a new device: Apple could create a cellphone combining its iPod music device with RIM's wireless technology, or RIM might embed Apple's iTunes music into a future BlackBerry, he speculated.

Senior executives at Intel have recommended that Apple work with RIM, Mr. Misek said in a research note.

The only other iTunes compatible devices other than the iPod is select cell phones by Motorola (ROKR (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/09/20050907130915.shtml), SLVR L7 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/11/20051102194516.shtml), RAZR V3i (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/11/20051108125740.shtml)), which have seen extremely sluggish sales and high return rates. Rumors are also consistent (but with no firm release date) about Apple developing an "iPhone" (http://guides.macrumors.com/iPhone_%28Rumored%29) that would be iTunes-compatible.

Disposition
Jun 4, 2006, 06:39 PM
I would like an iTunes capable balckberry. I just think the low sales are from high prices though.

bluebomberman
Jun 4, 2006, 06:42 PM
That would rock. CrackBerry + iTunes = $$$

rockthecasbah
Jun 4, 2006, 07:13 PM
the RAZR V3i / V3m were released stateside that might be a different story about the moto phones! I mean come on, candybar style is ugly especially in the ROKR's case! I don't think the blackberry will be any better in bringing mass-sales because of its market, they just need to release more attractive iTunes phones widely.

skunk
Jun 4, 2006, 07:15 PM
Blackberry and apple? Mmmm, delisherooni!

whee900
Jun 4, 2006, 07:16 PM
What are they gonna call that? Appleberry?

rimrocka07011
Jun 4, 2006, 07:18 PM
Please, pretty please let it be available for other service providers (not solely Cingular). Something this good should be available to everybody!

jaxstate
Jun 4, 2006, 07:33 PM
What's the point of having iTunes on a blackberry. Apple should just do their own full feature Smartphone and be done with it.

xy14
Jun 4, 2006, 09:55 PM
What are they gonna call that? Appleberry?

Nope. I'm an insider and it was gonna be the BlackApple, but they changed it to Plum.

MattG
Jun 4, 2006, 10:13 PM
I just got a 7250 at work...I'd be happy to pay for a Blackberry that is more Mac friendly.

Compatiblepoker
Jun 4, 2006, 10:40 PM
Blackberry and apple? Mmmm, delisherooni!

Lol, with the price though.....you might have to eat it for dinner.

w_parietti22
Jun 4, 2006, 11:07 PM
Im not in love with the blackberry, I really wish the Motorola Q had iTunes capibility. To bad moto chose Windows Mobile.

NVRsayNVR
Jun 4, 2006, 11:10 PM
What's the point of having iTunes on a blackberry. Apple should just do their own full feature Smartphone and be done with it.

I think Apple is just gaining ground with select companies in hopes of developing thier own line of phones/smart phones. Hey, trade them the capability of iTunes and gain where you need it most UNTIL you can put together your own program riding on the backs of their technology and networks.

I can't wait for Apple's version to hit the streets and will not buy anything else without an Apple logo on it cause they will all probably turn out like moto's junk.

lazyrighteye
Jun 4, 2006, 11:55 PM
Im not in love with the blackberry, I really wish the Motorola Q had iTunes capibility. To bad moto chose Windows Mobile.

Maybe Moto knew something...

msandersen
Jun 5, 2006, 12:05 AM
For a company that invented the PDA, Apple is leaving their re-entry to the Mobile market rather late. Microsoft has established PocketPC in the market, and now even Palm is using it. Linux has proven Unix can do it too. And if they can, so can Apple if they cut out Quartz in favour of something less graphics intensive, even X-Windows, as long as it has the same API. As we've seen, Apple has ported iTunes, and hence QuickTime, to Moto phones. Safari is lightweight and perfect for mobile devices. Opera has a niche there at the moment. It may be that Apple need to buy a company, like Research In Motion, to get a ready-made market and customer base, patents, technology, and engineers. They'd have the fruity-flavoured theme going for them. They could keep the Blackberry brand, maybe with a logo of a blackberry with a bite taken out of it. They could compliment each other well.

celebrian23
Jun 5, 2006, 12:12 AM
Not personally interested- no blackberries for me, but I have some concerns- as someone else said- why will this be any better than the phones suffering from sluggish sales?

geoffreyb
Jun 5, 2006, 12:49 AM
awesome! but add a camera.

the hiptop is so much more an apple like product, its more fun. btu the blackberry has insane market penetration...and it works so damn well. apple should just make a phone, and license the RIM technology for push email...that way apple can piggyback blackberry plans.

hiptop phones are cheaper too.

rikers_mailbox
Jun 5, 2006, 02:35 AM
What would it take for Apple to buy RIM?

... off to Google. :rolleyes:

bigandy
Jun 5, 2006, 04:33 AM
What would it take for Apple to buy RIM?

... off to Google. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: except the blackberry is waaaaay to ugly to ever be an apple product..

iAlan
Jun 5, 2006, 05:22 AM
:rolleyes: except the blackberry is waaaaay to ugly to ever be an apple product..

The standard MP3 player was also way too fugly for Apple, but look what they did with the original iPod design. Surely they can up thye anti and redisgn the blackberry with an apple flavour...

FragTek
Jun 5, 2006, 05:27 AM
Its nice to finaly see the blackberry coming out of its shell from a strictly business only PDA and something a bit more universal. I loved my blackberry to death, I had it about 2 years and it was phenominal but the lack of media and expansion options killed me. I made the switch to a Pocket PC w/ slideout keyboard and can definately say I'm much more happy with it as I can do everything I could from my berry + I can do far more. Built in camera, Windows Media Player, MiniSD slot, Internet Explorer (much better than the built-in BB brower), voice dialing, etc etc the list goes on.

Can't wait to see the first BB's with iTunes on em!

Stella
Jun 5, 2006, 07:10 AM
Apple should just make iTunes clients for all phones - Java based - will work for anything. A symbian specific version would be good for Series 60 phones ( lots of market for Symbian ), and easily ported to UIQ.

ntg
Jun 5, 2006, 07:52 AM
What are they gonna call that? Appleberry?

surely if it's Blackberry and Apple, they should call it Pi !!(sorry...):D

WebHead
Jun 5, 2006, 08:38 AM
Apple isn't the type to enter the market unless it has a category killer (like the iPod). It's probably waiting for wireless VoIP to take off before releasing the ultimate personal media/communications device. Then we might see .Mac morph into Mobile Me.

fixyourthinking
Jun 5, 2006, 08:47 AM
The ROKR is the only phone with sluggish sales ... the RAZR and SLVR are Motorola's best selling premium phones EVER. In fact, they have sold to a point where providers are offering them for free ... just 3 months ago the phones were $199 with contract.

iCaffeine
Jun 5, 2006, 08:59 AM
Cool! I want to get one today : )

starflyer
Jun 5, 2006, 09:09 AM
surely if it's Blackberry and Apple, they should call it Pi !!(sorry...):D

Apple Pi

I love it!

Lollypop
Jun 5, 2006, 01:06 PM
We recently did a comparison between Blackberry and windows mobile, while blackberry is a nice business tool windows mobile won on the sheer amount of features. Hopefully this is RIM's way of bringing more features to their platform and apples way of getting better support for the mac!

QuarterSwede
Jun 5, 2006, 07:16 PM
Apple Pi

I love it!
I am thinking the same thing. I can't believe Apple hasn't used that yet ... maybe its too much of a pun for their marketing.

PCM
Jun 6, 2006, 12:13 AM
Oh man this would be amazing.

fixyourthinking
Jun 6, 2006, 06:33 AM
Please, pretty please let it be available for other service providers (not solely Cingular). Something this good should be available to everybody!

When a phone is available for Cingular ... it can also be used on AT&T/SBC, TMobile, & SunCom

The 3 combined have 1 million subscribers more than the next three competitors combined.

Also SIM card phones are what is called "easy ownership" phones. Verizon, Sprint, Alltell ... need to be programmed, whereas anyone having Cingular can use ANY Cingular phone.

fixyourthinking
Jun 6, 2006, 06:35 AM
I just got a 7250 at work...I'd be happy to pay for a Blackberry that is more Mac friendly.

PocketMac gives you 100% of the syncing and interface for Macs

SeaFox
Jun 6, 2006, 09:01 PM
The only other iTunes compatible devices other than the iPod is select cell phones by Motorola (ROKR, SLVR L7, RAZR V3i), which have seen extremely sluggish sales and high return rates.

Maybe the high return rates have somehting to do with the crap quality of those phones (and he artificial limitation on the number of tracks stored). A coworker of mine is on his third RAZR, and this one has problems with the keypad not always lighting up when he opens it, he just has to close and reopen it several times until it decides to work. He has a friend who got a SLVR and he says it has problems, too.

Apple needs to get iTunes into Sony-Ericsson and Nokia handsets. Unfortunately, I believe both of those companies wish to start their own mobile music download services instead.

starflyer
Jun 7, 2006, 08:50 AM
Maybe the high return rates have somehting to do with the crap quality of those phones (and he artificial limitation on the number of tracks stored). A coworker of mine is on his third RAZR, and this one has problems with the keypad not always lighting up when he opens it, he just has to close and reopen it several times until it decides to work. He has a friend who got a SLVR and he says it has problems, too.

Apple needs to get iTunes into Sony-Ericsson and Nokia handsets. Unfortunately, I believe both of those companies wish to start their own mobile music download services instead.

I have been really happy with my SLVR. For me it's a very usable phone. I love iTunes on it. Syncing is seamless. My only gripe is that the OS could be a little snappier.

doyouflip
Jun 20, 2006, 04:32 PM
We recently did a comparison between Blackberry and windows mobile, while blackberry is a nice business tool windows mobile won on the sheer amount of features. Hopefully this is RIM's way of bringing more features to their platform and apples way of getting better support for the mac!

Don't buy on feature count alone. I've been using a WM phone for 7 months and have wanted to ditch it since the first week. Aside from the horrid user experience, it is very unstable and unresponsive.

I just purchased a BB 8700 and a Nokia e61 and am hoping one of those will be my long term phone. I'm confident either can replace the WM phone easily as the bar is pretty low right now.