Apple Eyeing Nintendo?

[MacRumors]

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Chris Stevens from CNet.co.uk (http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49276362,00.htm) revives a long-standing rumor that Apple may be eyeing a merger with Nintendo.

A city analyst told Crave that agressive takeovers of Japanese companies can be difficult and expensive. Japanese companies use the keiretsu system of interlocking holdings and partnerships, which makes conventional takeovers exceptionally hard.

If Apple was to acquire Nintendo, a friendly takeover or merger would be more likely. In the merger scenario, Apple might have a chat with Nintendo and convince them to agree to form a new company. Still, the viability of a merger is low. Now may be a bad time to adopt Nintendo -- Apple would do better to wait a year or two to see how the Wii does.

Stevens goes on to speculate that a Mac Mini that could play Nintendo's Wii games could prove to be a formidible match to Sony's Playstation 3 and Microsoft's XBox 360, since the Mini can also play high-definition video, edit music and photographs, surf the web, word process, and edit video.

Nintendo and Apple merger rumors surface from time to time, due mainly to the fact that the companies have very similar philosophies in their respective industries (ease of use, industrial design, boldness in the face of defeat, etc). Despite the similarities, such a merger or aquisition is regarded as highly unlikely, although recent rumors that Apple is recruiting game developers (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/05/20060527015327.shtml) may lend a slight bit of credence to the rumor.

[Zzero0]

I thought they were buying Disney

[princealfie]

Good job... both companies are alike in my opinion!

[shadowmoses]

Check out this link.... (http://gonintendo.com/?p=920)Simularities between apple and Nintendo designs....

Any how I think this would be a great idea for Apple.....How cool would it be to see a Nano intergrated into a DS lite???

SHadoW

[aftk2]

Heh, this is such a ridiculous idea, I don't even know where to start. Sometimes I wonder if analysts just pick two "hot" companies and toss them together.

What's next?

Apple...and Toyota! iYaris!

Yeesh.

[7on]

ummm, no. I'd rather NOT see a merger between the two. Other than Iwata using a Powerbook, I don't think Nintendo would be keen on it either. It'd be hard to manage a partnership where both companies (Apple and Nintendo) are very controlative of their licenses. If anything happens, I could see Nintendo or Apple thinking "We can do better ourselves" and then pulling out of the partnership with either Nintendo releasing a computer or Apple releasing a game device.

If a partnership happens more than likely it'll be something simple like getting the Nintendo USB WiFi thing to work on Macs or some future Wii/DS + Mac connectivity. No joined products.

[bwintx]

Incredibly unlikely. Check the Slashdot thread (http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/09/1238218) regarding this.

[Sun Baked]

Games on the iPods do not equal Apple becoming a game company.

Plus the game developers would have an edge in making creative use of 3d to make the iPod interface fun and interactive -- a little more out there, but not as much as a merger.

[KEL9000]

although there is no basis for any of this it kinda makes sense. I would love to have a mini that could play HD and console games.

[dashiel]

there may have been some credence to the rumor before the intel switch, but now? how in the hell would apple justify going back to PPC so soon after dumping it?

[eva01]

Once again i go back to a very old japanese company that would not have a merger of any kind with an american company. Not at least in my books

[7on]

Once again i go back to a very old japanese company that would not have a merger of any kind with an american company. Not at least in my books

yeah, the japanese have this crazy thing called pride. shrug.

[MrFrankly]

It's just a distraction from the fact the Apple will buy Adobe.

[jholzner]

This is a long standing rumor? I've never heard it before. I don't really care either way. I suppose if Apple buys them they have a good reason. Most of their aquisitions have been very successful with the exception of Powershool...which they have now sold.

[DavidLeblond]

Next up: Apple to buy Starbucks? iCoffee? Ooo how about Apple buying the Gap to get into clothing!

I can write articles speculating about those too.

[iGav]

Check out this link.... (http://gonintendo.com/?p=920)Simularities between apple and Nintendo designs....

You mean Nintendo's ability to rip off. ;)

[chairguru22]

the day this happens, pigs fly and the earth will implode

[SiliconAddict]

In the merger scenario, Apple might have a chat with Nintendo

That would have to be one HECK of a chat. :eek:

[SiliconAddict]

the day this happens, pigs fly and the earth will implode


Hmmm how many people said the same thing about Intel on the Mac? Windows running on a Mac at full speed? 100$ iPods?

It's just a distraction from the fact the Apple will buy Adobe.


See that would make more sense. Apple owning Photoshop would send shockwaves through the PC world. Apple owning Nintendo? Meh...unlike Sony and MS they don't seem to be interested in being anything other then a game console. What does this attribute acomplish for Apple? Not a whole heck of a lot IMHO.

[Websnapx2]

Once again i go back to a very old japanese company that would not have a merger of any kind with an american company. Not at least in my books

Yeah, because Sony merging/purchasing with Columbia/CBS years back is nothing like this. I mean one was a successful... no, wait... but the other, but the other one was a... no, wait, it's the same! :rolleyes:

[ulyssespdx]

it's a wild rumor, folks, started on some message board that the guy in the UK read and ran with. it ain't happening. this was speculated on about two years ago, too.

and Sony buying Apple. and Apple buying a stake in Kia too (seriously.) and so on. yawn.

ps: this article would have more credence if you spelled "credence" correctly. :D

[Websnapx2]

ps: this article would have more credence if you spelled "credence" correctly. :D

lol, very nice indeed.

Mentioning the Sony/Columbia situation isn't meant to support the Apple/Nintendo claim, but rather point out that while it won't happen, the fact that one company is American and the other is Japanese, is not the reason.

[combatcolin]

Makes me feel old to see this one pop up again.

;)

[JacKal]

I like Apple. I like Nintendo. They won’t merge, I’m sorry… that’s just not gonna happen. Maybe it might be nice if they partnered up for a few interesting projects, but no… no takeover. No merger. The reason they are in the positions that they are is because they are self-reliant, innovative, and incredibly staunch in the fact that they refuse to die even when everyone else says that they should. Yes they share the same philosophies, but that only re-enforces that they won’t merge.

[barcodebawtv]

It might not be likely, but I think it'd be awesome if it happened. The wii is the first system since N64 that I've actually anxiously anticipated. Like Apple, they do seem to have a similar philosophy of buisness

[mjstew33]

LOL!

Again? :D :rolleyes:

Makes me feel old, too, combatcolin!

[kumbaya]

will be on Wii

Imagine wielding your Wii controller as a lightsaber, whirling, jumping and slicing through imaginary foes...

It's going to happen

And Nintendo's going to sell more Wii's than [whatever you like to think of as a very very large number]

Why wouldn't Apple want in on that?

May the iForce be with you.TM

:)

[fixyourthinking]

It's not going to happen in any form ... no major mergers ... it will be as it has always been ... companies playing catch up to Apple or Apple releasing a better product to a market and blowing the competition out of the water.

I could see a partnership ... and honestly I don't see why Apple didn't embrace Sony with Virtual Game Station (PSX emulator for OS9) and just have all macs be able to play PS1 games out of the box.

[1020]

Yes! Yes! YES!
A merger between two of my favourite not-so-evil corporations

[Websnapx2]

Like Apple, they do seem to have a similar philosophy of buisness

That may be true but not all similar businesses should merge or even collaborate. I think this "Mash-up" idea we are all exposed to lately (last 10 years) weather it be business or music is basically a result of exhaustion of creativity thorough it's own resources so they combine existing creative, instead of evolving new creative. It's not the case with these companies. Not only are they not running out of money, they are influencing their particular markets. Let them continue on that trend. The possibility of this, to me, is more valuable than a DS with an iPod interface or a Wii with a built in version of Safari.

[boncellis]

This may turn out to be more of a partnership than a true merger. What about Apple selling the Wii controller as an add-on to their systems and giving you the option of buying the games through the iTMS?

I think it would be cool.

[treblah]

Nintendo and Apple merger rumors surface from time to time, due mainly to the fact that the companies have very similar philosophies in their respective industries (ease of use, industrial design, boldness in the face of defeat, etc)…

:confused:

I have always thought Nintendo's industrial design sucked. Up until they started copying Apple anyway… *cough*DS Lite*cough*

[BRLawyer]

Isn't Nintendo dead yet? Crappy consoles, crappy games...sorry guys, it's not gonna happen...unless Nintendo is sold with the same price as a bag of peanuts to Apple.

[combatcolin]

will be on Wii

Imagine wielding your Wii controller as a lightsaber, whirling, jumping and slicing through imaginary foes...

It's going to happen

And Nintendo's going to sell more Wii's than [whatever you like to think of as a very very large number]

Why wouldn't Apple want in on that?

May the iForce be with you.TM

:)

And mummy and Daddy will like it as it gets there lard arse sons moving.

[2nyRiggz]

You think they will sell the bread and butter that is Nintendo? The fanboys will cause riots when apple change up mario into a apple throwing two faced man thing.

Nintendo is still here buddy...fully loaded at that.


Bless

[Websnapx2]

Isn't Nintendo dead yet? Crappy consoles, crappy games...sorry guys, it's not gonna happen...unless Nintendo is sold with the same price as a bag of peanuts to Apple.

Seriously? Have you been living under a rock for a year? That is a really innovative controller that sony ripped off (poorly, by the way). They are not after the Halo playing gamers (though, the Wii version of Metroid looks like wicked fun), they are doing something revolutionary and going after the majority of people in the world who don't play games and trying to win them over as well as appeasing classic fans that just want to have fun. Not every gamer or potential gamer has to shoot things from a tank with their ever intuitive D-Pad w/ 8 buttons to entertain ourselves.

[sparkleytone]

Isn't Nintendo dead yet? Crappy consoles, crappy games...sorry guys, it's not gonna happen...unless Nintendo is sold with the same price as a bag of peanuts to Apple.

Its going to be hilarious reading this post in 18 months, when Nintendo has more 'next-gen' marketshare than either MS or Sony.

[2nyRiggz]

That is a really innovative controller that sony ripped off (poorly, by the way).


Huhhhh yea...I think that takes this thread to another level so we might wanna keep an eye on that. Nintendo's pride won't be sold that easy.


Bless

[Peace]

If they merge does this mean Seattle's baseball team becomes the iMariners?

[sam10685]

Next up: Apple to buy Starbucks? iCoffee? Ooo how about Apple buying the Gap to get into clothing!

I can write articles speculating about those too.

what about apple buying the century 21 real estate company?

[Morpheus_]

This is about as likely to happen as AOL and Time Warner getting together.

Oh wait....

Okay... this would be the biggest corporate mistake since the AOL/Time Warner merger, and Mr. Jobs is not dumb.

[.Andy]

A merger would likely only result in a company far less than the sum of its parts :(. While outwardly similar in their marketing of the products I'd wager behind the scenes the ethos of the two different companies varies dramatically.

[Dagless]

Personally I can just see Apple developing games for the Wii. Then as the Wii starts to fade out for the Wii2 (aka, Sony :rolleyes: - copying Nintendo etc) Apple will try and stuff a Wii into a Mac system.

That I can see happening at some point.

[golferjh3]

Nintendo's a pathetic company that got muscled out of the industry they started. Apple shouldn't want anything to do with them.

At least they are trying something new with the "wii" controller.

[BRLawyer]

Its going to be hilarious reading this post in 18 months, when Nintendo has more 'next-gen' marketshare than either MS or Sony.

Notwithstanding my previous remark, I do hope you're right, as it would be a good blow on Sony and MS...but Nintendo nowadays appeals to few people besides the faithful japanese, sorry.

[A is jump]

Fellas, this is a Page 2 Rumor... so keep that one in mind.

I dont have any real idea regarding the likelyhood of such a merger. But its a romantic idea to think about. Apples are the only computers I would buy, Nintendo makes the only game consoles I would buy. To have them as one company, or even just a really close working relationship, would be a big benefit to both companies. would help apple secure a foothold in the Gaming market, and help nintendo regain its lost ground, as well as increase their market, imagine games for the video ipod... combine that with the micro-optical goggles, and a modified version of the nintendo Wii controller!! that would seriously blow my mind.

who cares about the likelyhood, think of the possibilities.

[thedude110]

Next up: Apple to buy Starbucks? iCoffee?

I can see it now ...

Apple introduces ...

the iCoffee.

Smalls starting at just $3.00.

I would so go broke, even with my edu discount ... :cool:

[Sleix]

I can see it now ...

Apple introduces ...

the iCoffee.

Smalls starting at just $3.00.

I would so go broke, even with my edu discount ... :cool:

Nah nah...what you forgot to think about...is the obvious one. An Apple Branded Computer/Coffee Maker. Talk about a perfect office accessory! Get your job done and have a coffee break too! :D

[Viewtiful Rich]

I love both companies, don't think it'll ever happen... but it be kind of interesting if it did.

[sam10685]

Nintendo's a pathetic company that got muscled out of the industry they started. Apple shouldn't want anything to do with them.

At least they are trying something new with the "wii" controller.

please enjoy your thousand-plus dollar playstation 3 or xbox 360 set-up.

[Stella]

I thought they were buying Disney

Yea right.. do you realise how many companies Disney own?

More like Disney buys Apple. Apple could not possibly afford Disney.


Wii - that is an exciting console - cheap and good quality with plenty of innovation. It is far more attractive to me than the 360 or PS3.

[MacSlut]

This is retarded, Nintendo has a $22Billion market cap. Apple can't afford a hostile takeover at that amount, especially for a Japanese company.

Apple should buy Adobe, but wait until they can raise more cash and until the dust settles from the Macromedia merger.

[stephenli]

great!!! Mac Mini returns with a Power PC chip.

[inkswamp]

I call B.S. on this.

The most likely scenario would be some kind of cooperation between the two companies that resulted in the Mini being able to play Wii games. But even that is technically questionable at this point, and it brings to mind some weird competitive situations that are not workable. Wouldn't that just set up a situation where Apple would eat up Nintendo's console sales? What on earth would Nintendo gain from that?

[mozmac]

While a merger like this could spawn some really great products, I just don't see it happening. They're so similar, that I don't see it happening. It's kind of like when you're little and they teach you that people all over the world are different. "If everyone was the same, imagine how boring the world would be." If you start dating a girlfriend who's EXACTLY the same as you, you start to grow tired of her, because you want some variety.

I don't know. I just somehow managed to compare Apple and Nintendo to elementary school and dating. Shows how much I know.

[Macnoviz]

this can only mean one thing:

iWii !!

Seriously, that would be really really really great, and although the odds are small, you can never tell.

I would prefer a fargoing partnership over a merge, a bit like Apple+Nike, but in the interest of gamers, not sporters

Way to go !!

[Devie]

I'd love to see a partnership between the two, nothing major though. Apple making games for Wii and DS or something. Maybe a Mac Mini Wii, like the Panasonic Q (DVD player with a GC built in). Or iPod DS? (Err hope not, just bought a DS Lite :D )

But the two companies deserve to be exist on their own merit, plus Nintendo being so darn old, can't see them wanting to merge anytime soon.

[mojohanna]

I thought they were buying Disney
Why would Apple buy Disney? The rumor was Pixar selling out/being bought by Disney which is actually what took place. Jobs was CEO of Pixar as well.

[mrgreen4242]

I thinks it's much more probable that they would get some sort of cross licensing deal going, rather than merge.

Apple get the rights to use Nintendo firmware legally. They sell an add on kit with software to boot and run natively (on PPC machines) Wii and GC games, and emulate older consoles - pretty much they get to put all the software of the Wii, including the Virtual Console, onto their machines. They also include a BT adaptor that functions as the IR receiver bar for the Wiimote (and the Apple remote as well). You have to buy your controllers from Nintendo, but all official Nintendo accessories would be available from Apple.com, and the main stuff in the retail stores, including 1st party games.

In exchange, Nintendo gets exclusive use of the iTMS infrastructure to power their Virtual Console sales. People who use iTMS on a computer can buy games through it, and it also functions as the backend for the Wii to connect to. Plus, Multimedia content (TV shows, etc) from iTMS could be played back on the Wii to a TV. This is good for Nintnedo since it would give them a format that MS/Sony don't have which is already immensely successful (well, the music part is, the video would be if you could watch it on your TV and it was widescreen DVD quality). It would give Apple an immediate installed user base for it's product in the millions.

Here's the problem with this scenario, though: Apple doesn't use PPC chips anymore, and that's what they'd need for a Nintendo compatible machine (at least Wii/GCN). They could still license emulators for the NES/SNES/N64 and build them into iTunes and do pretty much everything mentioned above though.

Now that I said that, that would ROCK. A Core Duo mini media center that can play DVDs, HDDVDs (likely BR, knowing Apple), connect to iTMS to get TV shows, music, AND classic Nintendo games... And, conversely, being able to connect to iTunes shares with a Wii and use it to watch video and play music through your HT setup would be excellent as well.

[admford]

Well before some kind of mini flame war breaks out between people who like Nintendo and people who don't, i'll try to get in my opinion on this rumor.

The full buyout of Nintendo should be impossible. The company is doing relatively well and it has a very promising product line (Wii and DS Lite). I understand that people believe that the possibility of the buyout is real if you look at the styling of the companies, but still the math doesn't work out.

Now consider this, even though the Wii doesn't have the high resolutions of the PS3, or possibly the power of even the XBox 360, it has two things going for it's self.

1. It's price. I understand that it hasn't been released yet or even had the price presented to the public, but it's reasonable to suspect a price of around 200-250 dollars.

2. A large franchise of games. Along with the usual next generation games, you can also download online various editions of NES, SNES, N64 games, you can play GameCube games, and also Sega announced that it will make it's own library of games (genesis and master system I think) available for download for the Wii.

Apple has experiance with online distribution of music and videos, and there are alot of people asking when Apple will make movie downloads available in the future. The problem is, that while the iPod's screen is good to view if you're on the road, but it's not ideal to view a 2 hour video comfortably. I know you can hook the iPod up to the TV with the new docks, but still.

Microsoft is pushing it's Media center approach by integrating it into it's new OS, and the XBox 360 in a way is replacing the Media Center PC by letting users view photos, videos and music on the TV from your own computer. It's a strong arguement that Microsoft is giving for people (considering the first media center pc's price).

Apple has something similar to the Media Center interface in most of it's current Macs, it's nice to use and easy on the number of buttons needed. The problem is, you need the computer to be physically attached to the TV for you to use it that way, while OK for Mac Mini's, other computers have their own screen's and it's a bit useless at that point. Apple has a good product called the "Airport Express" that let's you transmit audio to external speakers via a WiFi or ethernet connection. Apple could do something similar to produce a video version of this Airport Express. But then, video transmission, decoding, updatable Front Row like OSD, wifi and ethernet connectibility. It's alot, but not completely out of Apple's capabilities. But what do you get with that? Just something more complex than the normal Airport Express.

That's where the Wii comes in, in my opinion. Apple could develop a front row like interface that could be used for various multimedia functions. Like reading video and audio from an iTunes equipped PC or Mac. Along with the built in DVD player, the Wii could be an ideal substitute to an Apple product that maybe not everyone would buy.

So basically, I'd say that it would be more of a collaboration between Apple and Nintendo to bring some more advanced multimedia functionality to the Wii, to increase it's competitiveness with the XBox 360 and the PS3. Also hopefully creating a type of secondary halo effect that will move Mac sales with people hoping to have a more complete or trust worthy (usual problems people can have with PCs) experiance with the Wii and their computers.

[kresh]

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Stevens goes on to speculate that a Mac Mini that could play Nintendo's Wii games could prove to be a formidible match to Sony's Playstation 3 and Microsoft's XBox 360, since the Mini can also play high-definition video, edit music and photographs, surf the web, word process, and edit video.



Oh yeah, the Mac Mini, the one with with Intel Integrated Graphics.

Man that will really be a boost for both companies. Sorry but your Nintendo Capable Mac Mini won't play any REAL games, but you can play high-definition video, edit music and photographs, surf the web, word process, and edit video. That should be a huge draw in the gaming market.

Watch out PS3 and XBOX 360. You're doomed I tell ye! I think Sony should drop development of the PS3. There is no way they could compete against a Nintendo Capable Mac Mini.

[inkswamp]

Why would Apple buy Disney? The rumor was Pixar selling out/being bought by Disney which is actually what took place. Jobs was CEO of Pixar as well.

New to these parts, I take it? :p

I think the OP was referring to the persistent and ridiculous rumors that Disney, Apple and Pixar were going to merge. Those went on for years in various permutations prior to the Pixar acquisition. It's sort of the yardstick by which all ridiculous rumors are measured.

The funny part is that, IIRC, Matt Drudge reported it a couple years back in a big, bold breaking news headline on his site. Needless to say, we Mac site regulars were snickering behind our hands at that one.

[beatle888]

Once again i go back to a very old japanese company that would not have a merger of any kind with an american company. Not at least in my books



yeeesh:rolleyes:

tell us how you really feel.

[beatle888]

will be on Wii

Imagine wielding your Wii controller as a lightsaber, whirling, jumping and slicing through imaginary foes...

It's going to happen

And Nintendo's going to sell more Wii's than [whatever you like to think of as a very very large number]

Why wouldn't Apple want in on that?

May the iForce be with you.TM

:)


that input device is so lame. why would i want to jump all over and wave my hand about acting as if i had a freaken l saber in my hand? no way. i think its really silly. good luck to them though.

[Macnoviz]

that input device is so lame. why would i want to jump all over and wave my hand about acting as if i had a freaken l saber in my hand? no way. i think its really silly. good luck to them though.

I have to disagree. I would like to summarize something Gerard 't Hooft said, a dutch nobel prize winner in physics: in the near (or far) future, hardware will reach the quantum limits: even quantum computers can't avoid the laws of physics: the speed of light, the size of a quantum part, etc.
In the end, the hardware won't matter that much, but improvements will all consist in HOW we can use our computers. Now, we have to translate our ideas in the language of the software using keyboards, mice, controllers, etc.

With the coming of the Wii controller, we are given new possibilities, and with enough creativity from the game developers, this could be huge step forward in the communication between man and machine.



Sorry for the scientific/philosophical comments on a simple rumor, but I just thought I say it.

In short: the Wii rules !!

[.Andy]

that input device is so lame. why would i want to jump all over and wave my hand about acting as if i had a freaken l saber in my hand? no way. i think its really silly. good luck to them though.
I bet you hate children and christmas too beatle888 ;).

[slackersonly]

The new DS Lite comes in a familiar color

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[Yvan256]

If anything, I could see joint projects or something:
- Nintendo licensing FairPlay to make their next Play-Yan iTunes/iTMS compatible and Apple adding Play-Yan support to iTunes (even though it's only an SD card to the Mac)
- Apple adding an export option to Quicktime Pro to export directly to Play-Yan compatible MPEG-4 video with all the right parameters for the Play-Yan (just like the iPod menu item).
- Make the Nintendo USB Wi-Fi dongle compatible with OS X.

[cycocelica]

please enjoy your thousand-plus dollar playstation 3 or xbox 360 set-up.
Lets see here. I own a 360 Premium, 6 games, an extra wireless contorller, and a wireless connection thing for the 360 all while still under $600.

Nintendo fan boys are just as bad as Apple fan boys without the right knowledge.

[DeSnousa]

What about being able to mount your iPod as a drive? Instead of a SD, better storage and possibly a means of playing your music through the Wii?

[HiRez]

Damn it, if Apple buys Nintendo, how will they have enough money left over to buy Burlington Coat Factory (http://www.burlingtoncoatfactory.com/)? I'm so disappointed. :rolleyes:

[BoyBach]

I don't think a merger is likely (Apple could not afford Nintendo), but a meeting of minds is a possibilty. Maybe Nintendo could show Apple how they produce a portable touch-screen device with a decent battery life ;)

[supermacdesign]

Don't beleive that for a second, thats a rumor based on nothing. Nintendo and Apple are two totally different companies that will never partner up. I love them both but come on.

[joeyboy76]

i hope apple and nintendo partner up by:

1. apple creates a small device that sticks to the gameboy advance slot of the DS lite which will enable the gaming device to play itunes songs, photos and videos. this device would then be able to sync with a mac/pc thru itunes.

2. nintendo license the old games (all games prior to the game cube/game boy advance) to apple and let it be downloadable thru itunes. Apple will release a new program to be able to play these games on a mac. probably also release a USB controller for that.

3. the wii will have front row in its system and be able to stream songs/photo slideshows/movies from a mac in the same network.

[sam10685]

Lets see here. I own a 360 Premium, 6 games, an extra wireless contorller, and a wireless connection thing for the 360 all while still under $600.

do u have a good quality HD tv that runs for about 1000 bucks right there? the nintendo will have killeer graphics and u wont need an HD tv. the 360 will look great on an SD tv but to get the full quality of the thing, u need an HD set. besides, even with an SD set, u said all that was under 600 bucks. with the nintendo, you'll be able to get more controllers, more games and wireless will be built-in all for less than the price of a core-system 360.

Nintendo fan boys are just as bad as Apple fan boys without the right knowledge.

u'd be surrprised at the knowledge i have about the Wii and the 360 and the PS3.

[w00master]

The new DS Lite comes in a familiar color

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w00master

[thijsjacobs]

I hope they will work together; that would strengthen both companies. I'd love to see Frontrow on a Wii. It could stream content via WiFi from the Apple computer near it.

[g30ffr3y]

ive got to say that i hope apple keeps their damn hands
off nintendo...

i love both companies as separate entities... the last thing i
want is an iDS or a macWii...

[progx]

You mean Nintendo's ability to rip off. ;)

i don't know about rip off iGav. i mean, Nintendo has paid quite a bit of credit to Apple for their new designs. they wanted to model the DS Lite after the iPod and the Wii after the Mac mini.

so maybe rip off isn't the word you want to use. how bout: inspiration. you may want to add that to your vocabulary ;)

now if anyone ripped off anyone, it was M$.

i could see the two companies getting together. not so sure of a merger, but it wouldn't surprise me since they are very similar to one another. this would give Apple a very good excuse to get back into the console market and switch back to PowerPC.

[iGav]

so maybe rip off isn't the word you want to use. how bout: inspiration. you may want to add that to your vocabulary ;)

Nah, inspiration would be giving far too much credit to Nintendo I'm afraid.

I'll stick with rip off thanks, though it's not just limited to the hardware so it would seem either. ;)

[zap2]

Nah, inspiration would be giving far too much credit to Nintendo I'm afraid.

I'll stick with rip off thanks, though it's not just limited to the hardware so it would seem either. ;)


Look to the PS3 for ripping off

[kresh]

Bring on the "Mini Contra"! I would really like to play Nintendo games on my Mini. Oh wait I already do.

But seriously, I would like to play Cube and Wii Games.

[progx]

Nintendo's a pathetic company that got muscled out of the industry they started. Apple shouldn't want anything to do with them.

At least they are trying something new with the "wii" controller.

what's your claims on that? i would seriously like to know that since Nintendo is a $22 Billion company.

what? they had an off generation after dominating three straight console generations and the handheld market, so that makes them pathetic? i'm sorry you can't play GTA or Halo on a GC or DS, but Nintendo has something that MS and Sony don't have on their consoles: fun platform games! the high level of fun that's found in many of the Mario platformers and spin-offs and in many of Nintendo's other titles.

and you're telling me they're pathetic? yes, i am very sure they're just as pathetic for not having ultra-violent video games that just get boring after a while. i love GTA, wrestling and action games…but they don't compare to a good game of Mario.

[progx]

Nah, inspiration would be giving far too much credit to Nintendo I'm afraid.

I'll stick with rip off thanks, though it's not just limited to the hardware so it would seem either. ;)

oh, so just like its giving too much credit to Apple for inventing the PC, just as Nintendo did with the home video game. ;)

yeah, that's giving too much credit.

[progx]

Look to the PS3 for ripping off

maybe…never looked at it that way. it looks like a sony design, so i could be wrong. :D

[iGav]

oh, so just like its giving too much credit to Apple for inventing the PC, just as Nintendo did with the home video game. ;)

yeah, that's giving too much credit.

Which has nothing to do with ripping off the design aesthetics of another company. Though Nintendo isn't the only guilty party of this of course.

Really though... I should've learnt from previously experience on MacRumors, not to, in anyway shape or form be critical of Nintendo. :rolleyes:

[nxent]

actually i'm surpised these rumors have only surfaced now- considering the fact that Nintendo and apple have the same competitor in Sony's PSP (challenges ipod, and nintendo ds). apple wants to get in on the gaming market- sony and msoft have. naturally as pc's and console games evolve, they're becoming closer together in terms of capabilities, so naturally PC makers are in the position to capitilze on that fact. 10 years ago who'd have thought Sony and Microsoft would unseat Atari, Sega, and Nintendo as the dominant console makers. Nintendo's barely holding on. in the event the Wii flops, Nintendo will not survive to make a post-wii platform.

[sk1985]

Nintendo has gone on the record to say the day they sell their company is the day that they stop making games (i.e. bankrupt or sell the name and disband forever). I really don't think this will happen.

[w00master]

actually i'm surpised these rumors have only surfaced now- considering the fact that Nintendo and apple have the same competitor in Sony's PSP (challenges ipod, and nintendo ds). apple wants to get in on the gaming market- sony and msoft have. naturally as pc's and console games evolve, they're becoming closer together in terms of capabilities, so naturally PC makers are in the position to capitilze on that fact. 10 years ago who'd have thought Sony and Microsoft would unseat Atari, Sega, and Nintendo as the dominant console makers. Nintendo's barely holding on. in the event the Wii flops, Nintendo will not survive to make a post-wii platform.

The thing is that Nintendo is EXTREMELY profitable. Yes, they be #3 in the console race, but they actually make a significant amount of money on each console sold. Additionally, they are really doing quite well on the handheld gaming market.

Yes, it's true that Nintendo isn't as "popular" as they used to be, but they are still doing well. It would take a lot for them to "close shop."

As for this so-called Apple-Nintendo rumor, I call hogwash. It ain't going to happen. Each of them are very protective of their IPs. Each of them have extremely tight control over their products.

w00master

[progx]

The thing is that Nintendo is EXTREMELY profitable. Yes, they be #3 in the console race, but they actually make a significant amount of money on each console sold. Additionally, they are really doing quite well on the handheld gaming market.

Yes, it's true that Nintendo isn't as "popular" as they used to be, but they are still doing well. It would take a lot for them to "close shop."

As for this so-called Apple-Nintendo rumor, I call hogwash. It ain't going to happen. Each of them are very protective of their IPs. Each of them have extremely tight control over their products.

w00master

very true. i don't know about #3 in the console race this time since that still remains to be seen.

[Sirus The Virus]

Well, the new DS Lites look like Apple products.

[kasei]

Why?

[pedrov]

I can see it now ...

Apple introduces ...

the iCoffee.

Smalls starting at just $3.00.

I would so go broke, even with my edu discount ... :cool:


how much would apple charge for black coffee? $200 more?

[mark!]

i could see the two companies getting together. not so sure of a merger, but it wouldn't surprise me since they are very similar to one another. this would give Apple a very good excuse to get back into the console market and switch back to PowerPC.

Why would they switch back to powerpc???
WTF.

[Seidoger]

Damn!
In your dreams!

That should be like Page 9 if such a thing existed

[n8mac]

First off Nintendo and Apple are my two favorite companies.

Economically I don't think it can happen. But lets entertain a partnership on games. After all, Apple competes against Sony and MS just as Nintendo does. Plus Apple needs serious help in the gaming department, relying on handme-downs. There is a lucrative gaming market that Sony and MS are feeding off of.

Now the most obvious benefit to both companies is all games that run on Macs also run on the wii and all wii games run on Macs. Technically speaking they are two different beasts.

Running wii games on Macs: Games that take full advantage of the wii are too graphically intense to play on even a powermac let alone a mac mini. The wii was made for gaming and the Mac was made for photoshop. Even if wii games could run on a powermac, they still could not run on a mac mini with shared ram. Powermacs are sold to profesionals, not gamers.

Running Mac games on wii: Resolutions are different between the systems. The wii is made for sd tvs which are 480p only. Vary few games that come to the Mac run below 1024x768 so the Mac games that you play will be downsampled, you won't get the full game. The succesor to the wii will probably be 1080p, but that won't happen till at least 5 years from now. By then computer resolutions will be higher than today.

So as much as I would like to see Apple/Nintendo beat MS, drastic changes would have to be made to make it work. The most I could see benefiting from a partnership is a portable ipod/ds combo where they set the standards. The standards have already been set on tvs and computer monitors.

(sorry about reposting bits from other posts, I just wanted to see it all come together);)

n8mac

[HGW]

nintendo will struggle this bout and joining forces with apple aint gonna strengthen that situation

apple should start an iPlay with oranges division & buy into VR technology after all they are innovators

apple have either done something great or not done it at all, why would you want see them with a dying horse

i was led to believe the mac gaming scene was fixed overnight with boot camp. please say if you tink otherwise.

[JimDoggy]

The thing about Apple and mergers is that it NEVER co-brands...have you EVER seen an Apple/anything on ANY product, EVER? No, you haven't. No one has. It doesn't happen. There's no Intel-Inside sticker on the outside of all the new Intel-processor Macs. The closest anhything comes to this is the mention of the non-Apple operating system running behind the iPods. But you have to hunt for that.

This'll never happen - not with two icons of the tech world. No way.

[ddrueckhammer]

The thing about Apple and mergers is that it NEVER co-brands...have you EVER seen an Apple/anything on ANY product, EVER? No, you haven't. No one has. It doesn't happen. There's no Intel-Inside sticker on the outside of all the new Intel-processor Macs. The closest anhything comes to this is the mention of the non-Apple operating system running behind the iPods. But you have to hunt for that.

This'll never happen - not with two icons of the tech world. No way.

I believe Apple has some history of cooperating with other companies...I am too lazy to look up all of them but here are just a few of the recent ones...

Motorola ROKR E1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_ROKR_E1)

Motorola SLVR L7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_SLVR_L7)

Motorola RAZR V3i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_RAZR_V3)

Hewlett Packard "HPod" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_HP)

Nike + iPod Sport Kit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike+iPod)

While many of Apple's collaborations haven't been successful, the same can be said for some of their products (remember the Pippin?...oops thats another collaboration...). A partnership between Apple and Nintendo could be a great thing, assuming they could get past cultural differences, as both companies have assets that would benefit the other. That being said, I really don't think this would ever happen...

I know you are probably talking about other companies putting their brand on Apple products, (kinda like the HPod...) but I don't think Apple is adverse to this either if it increases the bottom line...

[JackSYi]

An Apple/Nintendo Console would be awesome. I would most definitely buy one.

[Dagless]

nintendo will struggle this bout and joining forces with apple aint gonna strengthen that situation

apple should start an iPlay with oranges division & buy into VR technology after all they are innovators

apple have either done something great or not done it at all, why would you want see them with a dying horse

i was led to believe the mac gaming scene was fixed overnight with boot camp. please say if you tink otherwise.

Yea... struggle. what with all this positive attitude towards their system. with media going APE just to touch one. with a very low price point for the system and games that are targetted not to just games (a la PSP, PS3 and 360) but towards the non-gamers too (a la Nintendo DS), if you do a bit of research you'll find out that non-gamers are the vast majority.

you did a silly post :) though nothing can be said yet as it's not even out. but basically Nintendo have hit all the criteria to make a very successful video games machine. criteria hit by Sony in the PS1 and 2 worlds, and NES and SNES going further back.

About all this "last place" sentiments. Has anyone else seen the figures? Nintendo owns 88% of the handheld market. Which IIRC is more than the iPod market (wasn't that around 70%?). Nintendo consoles accounts for 77% of every single gaming machine sold in Japan. Sony accounts for 20% of the consoles sold. Heck, in Japan the Gamecube regularly sells more than the 360, though both figures are very low.

Since 2000 Nintendo has sold more gaming platforms than Sony. GBA has sold around the same as the PS2, at E3 2005 it was more though I don't have the latest numbers. Then add in the DS sales, then Gamecube figures to round it off.
Nintendo aren't 3rd place *and* they make more profit. Nintendo own the market.

[Scruff]

I don't think they'll merge or anything, but I could see them partnering up to make some games compatible for Apple hardware.

Apple should arrange a deal with Valve, I always feel like Steam is just the iTMS with a different design and, y'know, games instead of music. :p

[HGW]

dont get me wrong i like nintendo but this offering is weak, they have the worst graphics & sound of this generation. the controller is something like you would give to your mum and say look dont be afraid its just a remote.
to entice her to play. the name Wii is being ridiculed

they are targeting non gamers and taking a different approach but with a back to basics philosophy.

super profit is something you get when you overcharge your customers.

the gameplay better be really good (which nintendo can do) is all i can say.

[n8mac]

Nintendo consoles accounts for 77% of every single gaming machine sold in Japan. Sony accounts for 20% of the consoles sold. Heck, in Japan the Gamecube regularly sells more than the 360, though both figures are very low.

You sure you got that right and not flip-flopped? 77% for sony and 20% for nintendo in Japan seems more realistic. If what you say is true than the 'Romancing of the three kingdoms' series would be on GameCube and not PS2 :) (one can wish).

[JosiahPB]

I would still like to see what they could come up with working together.

[mark!]

You sure you got that right and not flip-flopped? 77% for sony and 20% for nintendo in Japan seems more realistic. If what you say is true than the 'Romancing of the three kingdoms' series would be on GameCube and not PS2 :) (one can wish).

japan is nintendo crazy. those statistics are right.

[oldMac]

dont get me wrong i like nintendo but this offering is weak, they have the worst graphics & sound of this generation.

Hi HGW,

I think you're missing the boat on this one. While the 360 has phenomenal graphics, the gameplay (and the attitude of the industry) hasn't innovated at all. It's completely stuck in the 90's with games that are all dark and morbid like a Marilyn Manson wannabe. It's gotten all too D&D for the general public.

What's more, these consoles are all using a slight variation of the original NES controller. That's like 1984 technology with a couple more buttons and an analog stick!

If Nintendo has done a good job with their controller, they are going to wipe the floor with both Sony and MS. Why would I drop $500+ for a console that doesn't offer anything more than eye candy when I could spend less than $300 for a machine with superior gameplay?

Even if the controller turns out to be "no big deal", the ability to download the original Super Mario Brothers and other games from the original NES is HUGE.

That means the regular market, plus a lot 30+ year olds buying this console to revisit childhood and share these titles with their kids. Mom's and dad's in my generation would love to show their kids how it's done with super mario. If I had kids, I know what they'd be getting for Christmas. :)

As far as Apple buying Nintendo? Nah... I don't buy it.

[asthma]

this is interesting i found this on youtube after my friend had mentioned something about it, not sure if its real or a hoax.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPSL779qnvE&search=apple%20on%20playstation

asthma

[Mackilroy]

Lets see here. I own a 360 Premium, 6 games, an extra wireless contorller, and a wireless connection thing for the 360 all while still under $600.

Nintendo fan boys are just as bad as Apple fan boys without the right knowledge.

That's impossible. A Premium system costs about $430 with tax, games run for around $60 each (so that's another $360 dollars right there) a wireless controller would run you about $50, and the Wi-Fi connector another $100, so that's $940 dollars at least.

And yes, I have an Xbox 360, Wi-Fi connector, an extra wireless controller, and I have five games (so only $60 cheaper).

On topic… I don't think Apple would buy Nintendo, though it would be very interesting if something like that happened.

[Cygnus311]

Nintendo's a pathetic company that got muscled out of the industry they started. Apple shouldn't want anything to do with them.

At least they are trying something new with the "wii" controller.

A pathetic company that created almost every gaming tech used today?

They got muscled out of the industry?

Ok, the DS is currently the fastest selling video game system in history. In January of this year, it was sold out through all of Japan - the first time any Nintnedo product has ever been sold out entirely.

And to the guy that said they make crap consoles and games, the NES was stronger than it's competitor, the SNES the same, the N64 stronger than PSone and the first with the analog stick, the GameCube stronger than the PS2. Next they've simply chosen a different strategy, one in which PS3, in a panic mode, attempted to immitate when developers at and before E3 had all their focus and attention on Wii. Ubisoft at one point said they were ashamed of Sony's "me too" attitude at E3.

[Humphreys]

Next up: Apple to buy Starbucks? iCoffee? Ooo how about Apple buying the Gap to get into clothing!

I can write articles speculating about those too.

Well Gap do make the uniforms for Apple Store employees. Dun dun duuuuun.

[Cygnus311]

Yea... struggle. what with all this positive attitude towards their system. with media going APE just to touch one. with a very low price point for the system and games that are targetted not to just games (a la PSP, PS3 and 360) but towards the non-gamers too (a la Nintendo DS), if you do a bit of research you'll find out that non-gamers are the vast majority.

you did a silly post :) though nothing can be said yet as it's not even out. but basically Nintendo have hit all the criteria to make a very successful video games machine. criteria hit by Sony in the PS1 and 2 worlds, and NES and SNES going further back.

About all this "last place" sentiments. Has anyone else seen the figures? Nintendo owns 88% of the handheld market. Which IIRC is more than the iPod market (wasn't that around 70%?). Nintendo consoles accounts for 77% of every single gaming machine sold in Japan. Sony accounts for 20% of the consoles sold. Heck, in Japan the Gamecube regularly sells more than the 360, though both figures are very low.

Since 2000 Nintendo has sold more gaming platforms than Sony. GBA has sold around the same as the PS2, at E3 2005 it was more though I don't have the latest numbers. Then add in the DS sales, then Gamecube figures to round it off.
Nintendo aren't 3rd place *and* they make more profit. Nintendo own the market.

Exactly. Go read the reports from this year's E3. 6+ hour waits to play Wii were standard throughout the convention. The maximum wait reported to try PS3 was 30 minutes. No joke. That was confirmed by several sources and it wasn't becuase of a lack of systems or games on hand for Nintendo (they had 27 playable games), or an excess of PS3 systems on hand. Throw in games like an all new Zelda and Metroid on LAUNCH day with a new Smash Brothers and Mario Galaxy soon after, with a launch price of $200-250, and you've got a system that's looking well on the way to success.

[n8mac]

japan is nintendo crazy. those statistics are right.

Wow. I'm moving to Japan :D .
But seriously, the 'Romancing of the three kingdom' series on PS1 and PS2 and not Nintendo seems to contradict those statistics since it's made in Japan! And there are other games as well that I can't recall at the moment. I don't get it!:confused:

[gh0sted]

I want a Super Mario Edition Mac Mini :P

I can see it now, Bill Gates popping out of the green tube to try and eat Luigi! Sweet.

[generationxwing]

dont get me wrong i like nintendo but this offering is weak, they have the worst graphics & sound of this generation. the controller is something like you would give to your mum and say look dont be afraid its just a remote.
to entice her to play. the name Wii is being ridiculed

Here's the thing: you're an idiot. It isn't just about graphics. I used to be a hardcore gamer back when I was a kid. But then it just got boring and repetitive. There was nothing different about any of the systems except better graphics. That only gets you so far. At a certain point, why get anything new when I still enjoy my Super Nintendo?

For the first time in about 15 years, I'm excited about a video game system and it's because of all the innovations with the Wii. It looks FUN!

I couldn't give a rat's arse about fancy graphics. They don't make a boring game any less boring.

[gh0sted]

I couldn't give a rat's arse about fancy graphics. They don't make a boring game any less boring.

That's true, the original Spawn on PSOne was graphically awesome (for the time) but the game was so boring I couldn't make it past the second stage without shutting it off in disgust. I don't see why people are knocking on the Wii control system... being interactive with you game rather than button mashing sounds completely amazing. Mainly I think people who are talking down Nintendo are either XBox or PS loyalist who can't see a decent thing with any other system. Each system has it's strengths, but Wii offers innovation beyond a new graphics chip.

I think multiplayer on Wii is going to be way more fun than any system ever. Talk about a system made to enjoy.

[HGW]

nobody has mentioned the battery life of the controller yet, it wont come with rechargeables, its not possible to plug in a cable & how much are you williing to spend on attachments. you'd better stock up on those alkaline battery's cause your gonna need to change them once a week.

[pavetheforest]

This would be MINT. It would give nintendo the edge it needs and make apple into an all around MONSTER! I've always held Nintendo in much higher esteem then the PS and XBOX...it probably wont happen, but due to the nature of both companies, it seems feasable. :cool:

[gloss]

I haven't bought a console since the Dreamcast, and I'm psyched for the Wii. It looks great.

[JackSYi]

Yeah, I can't wait for Wii. The controller looks awesome.

[d_saum]

yeah, the japanese have this crazy thing called pride. shrug.


How come if they do it, it's pride, but if we did it, it'd be prejudice? :confused:

[Thanatoast]

Apple won't buy Nintendo - but here's what I think they *should* do:

Make Nintendo games playable on Apple computers. Maybe Apple could offer a Nintendo accessory that fit carts from all generations and systems.

The reason this will be good for both companies follows:

Nintendo won't get shoved out of the market because nobody's going to buy a minimum $600 machine to play Nintendo games - so their hardware sales are safe. They would also sell more copies of games to Apple owners.

Apple needs a shot in the gaming market-arm. Playing Nintendo games out of the box would rate high on the kick ass meter. This way Nintendo does all the game development and Apple gets to not be three steps behind in gaming anymore. We buy more Big N games, Apple gets credit, Nintendo gets sales.

win-win, right?

[generationxwing]

nobody has mentioned the battery life of the controller yet, it wont come with rechargeables, its not possible to plug in a cable & how much are you williing to spend on attachments. you'd better stock up on those alkaline battery's cause your gonna need to change them once a week.
Oh, well. I'm convinced. The Wii is doomed to failure! I mean, there's no way Nintendo or another third party will come out with rechargeable batteries. And they are tough to find at any hardware store, or Wal Mart.

Seriously. You have not provided a single valid argument against the Wii. You have contributed absolutely nothing to this discussion. I have no problem with people who don't like the Wii or won't buy it. Frankly, I don't give a crap what you spend your mom's money on.

But please try and have something of substance to offer. You come off as nothing more than some idiotic, spoiled little 11 year old brat with no friends. And, well, no one likes an idiot.

Come back when you have something valuable to say.

[ironic23]

It'd be nice if apple teamed up with nintendo to release something but i don't think apple is ready to venture into the gaming industry just yet. I think their focuses are more on the intel transition for now.

[HGW]

if ive contributed nothing worth while in this debate why have you responded, seems like you had a bit of a childish attack and i brought it out of you hmm,
again to reiterate, those batteries are gonna last easily less than a week, they are not gonna supply you with rechargables, seems worth mentioning

i want a wii (hehe)

also worth mentioning is how many add on peripherals your gonna have to buy and are not included, the laser reciever, the standard controller, the remote controller (included), the nun chucka, the gun handle, a gamecube controller, a ds, if you buy a a few games you might want them all. $$$

this debate having gone off topic now belongs in the gaming section

[REDSRT4]

How many companies do they want to be a part of, Bill better be worried every time apple looks into another company :)

[Scruff]

if ive contributed nothing worth while in this debate why have you responded, seems like you had a bit of a childish attack and i brought it out of you hmm,
again to reiterate, those batteries are gonna last easily less than a week, they are not gonna supply you with rechargables, seems worth mentioning

i want a wii (hehe)

also worth mentioning is how many add on peripherals your gonna have to buy and are not included, the laser reciever, the standard controller, the remote controller (included), the nun chucka, the gun handle, a gamecube controller, a ds, if you buy a a few games you might want them all. $$$

this debate having gone off topic now belongs in the gaming section

You got sources to cite that say I have to buy the nun chuck seperately? And what do you mean 'laser receiver'? You talking about the wireless thing? I doubt it's major selling point will be sold seperately, :/. More like, built into the console.

[HGW]

You got sources to cite that say I have to buy the nun chuck seperately? And what do you mean 'laser receiver'? You talking about the wireless thing? I doubt it's major selling point will be sold seperately, :/. More like, built into the console.

a sensor bar! not built into the system, at least ive done research, cant be bothered to talk about nintendo here, better in the gaming section.

you can have my wii, doh

[OdduWon]

dare i say that apple will have a wiipod:eek:

[wbread5]

Yea right.. do you realise how many companies Disney own?

More like Disney buys Apple. Apple could not possibly afford Disney.


This is sad but true. Disney has more corporate backing than nearly any other american company - and aside from constantly aquiring other companies, it is itself owned by many larger companies, namely ABC. Remember Dimension Films, makers of such guilty pleasures as Van Wilder and Eurotrip? Disney. ESPN? ABC.

Disney already beat Apple in aquiring a portion of former Pixar, there's no way in hell they'll be bought out now.

[Websnapx2]

This is sad but true. Disney has more corporate backing than nearly any other american company - and aside from constantly aquiring other companies, it is itself owned by many larger companies, namely ABC. Remember Dimension Films, makers of such guilty pleasures as Van Wilder and Eurotrip? Disney. ESPN? ABC.

Disney already beat Apple in aquiring a portion of former Pixar, there's no way in hell they'll be bought out now.


Actually, no. Disney owns ABC and in turn ESPN. Make no mistake, Disney is the parent company there. Also, there is no record of Apple wanting to buy Pixar, they could have, but it would have hurt them in the long run being seen as monopolizing both content and distribution (for future movie store). Instead, Jobs Sold ALL (not a portion) of Pixar to disney in return for a lot of money and a seat at Disney's board to keep a content owner apple-friendly. That way giving Apple access to ABC's, ESPN's, Disney's AND Pixar's content available for the iTMS.

It may suck, but it's business.

[DVK916]

Notwithstanding my previous remark, I do hope you're right, as it would be a good blow on Sony and MS...but Nintendo nowadays appeals to few people besides the faithful japanese, sorry.

Maybe you heard of the DS, which is crushing the PSP in every market.

Also nintendo makes billions in profit each year, while M$ looses billions each year in the gaming industry.

Nintendo knows, market share is meaningless unless you have the profit to back it up.

[slabbius]

When will Wii update to Merom?

[dukebound85]

When will Wii update to Merom?

Haha awesome

[edmiya]

Why not to put the iTV in the nitendo Wii (Funny games for all family and a easy media center)
Will be good for both companies!
And Nitendo can use the iTunes network for the old games downloads (Nes, Snes, N64).
Nitendo and Apple make creative, inovative and easy to use products.
And Nintendo will need a extra help with the Wii, if they do the same mistake
of the SEGA DREANCAST (Powered by Windows CE and this use to crash alot in some games) and let Microsoft put softwares into it, Nitendo will be out of the games console bussiness soon (Like Sega), and the DS will be the Nitendo's only Hope!
The next generation of games console war will be a Big one, Sony will probally built your own media solution for the PS3 and this for sure will not work with Macs.

[Sijmen]

Nice topic.

I made a mockup a short while ago:
http://a404.net/images/iiMac.png

The whites don't match though. If someone could help me fix that (I'm using the Gimp) I'd be very grateful.

/edit:

When will Wii update to Merom?

Sheer brilliance.

[HGW]

apple and nintendo should do a partnership so the new iTv would be called iWii. with both features incorperated obviously.

nice pic

[Sijmen]

apple and nintendo should do a partnership so the new iTv would be called iWii. with both features incorperated obviously.

nice pic

Nah, too little space, no CD drive. I'll bet on the upcoming Conroe G5 Towerbook.

[babyj]

Actually, no. Disney owns ABC and in turn ESPN. Make no mistake, Disney is the parent company there. Also, there is no record of Apple wanting to buy Pixar, they could have, but it would have hurt them in the long run being seen as monopolizing both content and distribution (for future movie store). Instead, Jobs Sold ALL (not a portion) of Pixar to disney in return for a lot of money and a seat at Disney's board to keep a content owner apple-friendly. That way giving Apple access to ABC's, ESPN's, Disney's AND Pixar's content available for the iTMS.

It may suck, but it's business.

The Disney buyout of Pixar was a clever bit of business by Steve Jobs. Pixar's distribution deal with Disney was coming to an end, Pixar didn't like the new terms being offered so they started looking elsewhere for a distributor. The Disney animation department has been in a bad way for a while and they couldn't really afford to lose Pixar.

All of a sudden they are all friends again, Pixar is taken over by Disney and in the process Steve Jobs becomes the largest single share holder in Disney and gets a place on the board. The main benefit being that Apple gets access to Disney content, they launch a tv download service and Disney are the first to sign up and the same has happened with films.

[-::ubermann::-]

i prefer pc's over consoles because of definition, keyboard+mouse(strategy, fps, simulations) free online gaming, hamachi, mods, and ease to get games, the bad thing: windows
since i switched to linux and mac, i havent played, this would be a new opportunity :)

[NightLord]

Sijmen, good work, but missing a few key elements :P

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6782/iimacjd2.jpg

The Wiimac :D (Fixed the white too)

[Eidorian]

Sijmen, good work, but missing a few key elements :P

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6782/iimacjd2.jpg

The Wiimac :D (Fixed the white too)Very nice! I wonder if you could do that for real using a TV tuner. :D

[NightLord]

Very likely you could....When the Wii comes out, someone must use it to make a real Wiimac!

[OdduWon]

Sijmen, good work, but missing a few key elements :P

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6782/iimacjd2.jpg

The Wiimac :D (Fixed the white too)
Wii ! zelda looks fun! but what is the black bar on top?

[lewion]

Wii ! zelda looks fun! but what is the black bar on top?
sensor for the wiimote???? dont you think it needs that???

[OdduWon]

:o oh yeah, i forgot. Is that the official sensor? a white glossy plastic one would be way cooler.. ahem itv ahem :D

[uspcommuter]

Hope its on a 24" iMac :-D but all in all its a very nice pic.