Vista a Copy of Mac OS X? (see for yourself)

[AlmightyG5]

http://apple.qj.net/Windows-Vista-Is-Looking-Like-Mac-/pg/49/aid/55832

Wow...Microsoft really copied every aspect. I love it though how all the Windows Fans are raving about the new features, when we have had them for a year. :)

[wako]

It isnt like Apple hasn't stole their fair share of features from Windows...



most obvious and blantant one is, Front Row = Media Center?



And in general, all big time developers like Apple and Windows, they always steal from one source. The third party developers. Almost every feature they ever get is because someone made a program that worked so well, that a bigger company made their own version, perfected, and killed off the third party programmer who were doing it in their spare time. Apple recently done this with Sherlock, or whatever that useless (IMO) application was.

[Pressure]

It isnt like Apple hasn't stole their fair share of features from Windows...



most obvious and blantant one is, Front Row = Media Center?

The only problem being that Apple did it better . . . not to mention integrated it into the standard os . . .

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

The only problem being that Apple did it better . . . not to mention integrated it into the standard os . . .

Vista's search capabilities surpass those of Tiger...so they did it better, too???

[wako]

Uh....


With Media center, i can watch it from anywhere. From a TV even. Front Row? Nope. Front Row cant even record TV shows. Hell, Front Row cant even watch TV.

Also, it is much easier to find codecs than to find components for QT.

[treblah]

Vista's search capabilities surpass those of Tiger...so they did it better, too???

So far, yes. Spotlight kinda sucks. I have high hopes for Leopard though and suspect that it will put Vista's search to shame.

[Eidorian]

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~abarreno/orly_owl.jpg

[vniow]

The only problem being that Apple did it better . . . not to mention integrated it into the standard os . . .

Media Centre is far far superior to Front Row in almost every way. Its not as integrated in the OS all that much either, you can only get it if you buy a new Mac. Older ones are out of luck since there's no (legal) way to get it seperately.

[dornoforpyros]

this is old news.
It's common knowledge now that Vista's Aero theme is a knockoff of Aqua. But on the plus side, Vista is never going to see the light of day, so who cares? People really need to stop comparing OS X to a piece of VaporWare.

[wako]

Vista's search capabilities surpass those of Tiger...so they did it better, too???



JUST AN FYI...


XP already has these features since day one. It just wasnt turned on as a default setting. :) Tiger copied that. :)

[Pressure]

Vista's search capabilities surpass those of Tiger...so they did it better, too???

I was merely talking about Media Center but I am not saying the OSX is the only operating system out there that works. My desktop is still a Windows based machine.

[Obsidian6]

a co-worker of mine was all jazzed up about vista after having it installing, and everyone was oohing and aahingg. so i walk over to his desk with my powerbook, and show him how OS x does everything vista does and more. and OSX has been out for some time now :)

everyone was uninanimous in saying "yeah.. you know abram is right, it is just like his OS. guess it isnt that special"

OSX FTW!

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

JUST AN FYI...


XP already has these features since day one. It just wasnt turned on as a default setting. :) Tiger copied that. :)

had what features? Instant Search and Metadata Indexing? What are you talking about...:confused: I'm missing something :(

[wako]

had what features? Instant Search and Metadata Indexing? What are you talking about...:confused: I'm missing something :(



Yep both...


goto start>run>type in msconfig>goto service tab>find Indexing Service>Turn on

[brbubba]

It isnt like Apple hasn't stole their fair share of features from Windows...



most obvious and blantant one is, Front Row = Media Center?



And in general, all big time developers like Apple and Windows, they always steal from one source. The third party developers. Almost every feature they ever get is because someone made a program that worked so well, that a bigger company made their own version, perfected, and killed off the third party programmer who were doing it in their spare time. Apple recently done this with Sherlock, or whatever that useless (IMO) application was.

Exactly, can you say konfabulator. And I don't even want to bring up Xerox. That being said I have Vista Beta 2 installed on my desktop pc and it seems very different than OS X to me, in the feel, look, etc. Sure, there are apps that share some similarities, but on the whole no one is going to mistaking one for the other.

[zakatov]

just to play devil's advocate, Windows had Alt-tab for app switching forever before we got it in OSX

[mmmcheese]

Damn Apple copied George Boole!!!!!

[wronski]

Does this really matter? I guess it's a good thing since it means Apple will have to keep making OS X better. Competition is good. Hopefully this won't turn into the same thread as the one about Dell copying Apple or maybe we should just not care. Yeah, not caring sounds fine to me.

[.Andy]

Not pointing out Vista in particular but it's funny how in an aesthetic sense it seems to be really hard for anyone at all to copy Apple's design. Any company that trys to copy the aesthetics of the hardware or software just ends up looking and feeling like a cheapened version. It'll be interesting to see how the street version of Vista will go in this regard.

[mmmcheese]

Not pointing out Vista in particular but it's funny how in an aesthetic sense it seems to be really hard for anyone at all to copy Apple's design. Any company that trys to copy the aesthetics of the hardware or software just ends up looking and feeling like a cheapened version. It'll be interesting to see how the street version of Vista will go in this regard.

On the other hand, if you try something new (whether it is good or not), people will bitch about it....just look at the new UI for the upcoming Office suite.

[Fukui]

Yep both...


goto start>run>type in msconfig>goto service tab>find Indexing Service>Turn on
OS 8 had that in '98... :)

As to the Vista is a copy of OSX I would say its an attempted copy of OS X's style and features but not a direct copy or else it would look more similar. But what do you expect from competition. Innovation? Hah!:cool:

[Timepass]

Yep both...


goto start>run>type in msconfig>goto service tab>find Indexing Service>Turn on


umm it something that turn on most XP computer by default. the index in vista and in spot light aver very diffenent and much better.

It was on by default not turn off. A lot of people turn it off for improve system speed but it really not as good as you are trying to make it out to be.

[wonga1127]

!!!

[Mammoth]

Why do I find that picture unbelievably funny? :D

[Philberttheduck]

honestly, how slow are yu people? moneys on the retard in a special olympics race against you.

[Nar1117]

I think everyone should look at this video...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3QdGt3ix2CQ&search=windows%20vista%20mac%20OS

[Acehigh]

http://apple.qj.net/Windows-Vista-Is-Looking-Like-Mac-/pg/49/aid/55832

Wow...Microsoft really copied every aspect. I love it though how all the Windows Fans are raving about the new features, when we have had them for a year. :)



Maybe Gates and Jobs are best of friends and shared the source code with each other. I guess it is possible, no lawsuits yet.

[EricNau]

... you can only get it if you buy a new Mac. Older ones are out of luck since there's no (legal) way to get it seperately.
If I recall, the only way to get Windows Media Center is to buy a new PC.

...correct me if I'm wrong.

[wako]

It was on by default not turn off. A lot of people turn it off for improve system speed but it really not as good as you are trying to make it out to be.



It has been off since SP1....

[treblah]

If I recall, the only way to get Windows Media Center is to buy a new PC.

...correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope. You can buy OEM Media Center Edition from almost any vendor without the need to buy new hardware. MS changed their 'System Builders Agreement' (http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx) to allow for enthusiasts to buy it legally.

I bought MCE05 from NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832102357) for my MBP. :)

[treblah]

Maybe Gates and Jobs are best of friends and shared the source code with each other. I guess it is possible, no lawsuits yet.

You didn't know? They are total BFF! Bill actually runs Apple when Steve has his Pixar/Disney obligations and Steve runs MS when Ballmer runs out of cocaine. ;)

[alienex]

dont forget widgets...

[dextertangocci]

So far, yes. Spotlight kinda sucks. I have high hopes for Leopard though and suspect that it will put Vista's search to shame.

You are crazy. Spotlight is so cool, I love it! And compared to MS's current meta data searcher in its current OS, it is lightyears ahead. Compare Leapard's searcher with Vista's and see the difference!:D

[EricNau]

Nope. You can buy OEM Media Center Edition from almost any vendor without the need to buy new hardware. MS changed their 'System Builders Agreement' (http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx) to allow for enthusiasts to buy it legally.

I bought MCE05 from NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832102357) for my MBP. :)
So, at one time I was right, right? :confused:

[Josias]

Man, that video just showed everything that Vista had (in Mac OS X). And remember, only Vista Ultimate will have all these features. There will be six editions of it:p (all cr*p). I never hope Apple splits Mac OS X into seperate editions. Every mac user is just used to having the best.:D

[wako]

Technically....


Newegg always sold OEM Media Center...

[treblah]

Newegg always sold OEM Media Center...

Well, yeah, if you wanna get all technical… ;)

But they used to include a molex splitter to get around MS's license, didn't they?

[wxboss]

Not pointing out Vista in particular but it's funny how in an aesthetic sense it seems to be really hard for anyone at all to copy Apple's design. Any company that trys to copy the aesthetics of the hardware or software just ends up looking and feeling like a cheapened version. It'll be interesting to see how the street version of Vista will go in this regard.
Remember the old, old days when the first Mac came out with its icons and mouse. PC users said it was a toy, then Win95 came out with the same type GUI and Apple went after MS because it was a great interface and MS knew it.

MS is still way behind when it comes to aesthetics. Win95 thru XP were just softer, more colorful versions of the prior OS, aesthetically speaking.

[GreekMac]

Wake up!!!Who cares about Vista lets focus on Leopard!!

[GreekMac]

oops!Wrong thread...

[bbrosemer]

I dont really care becasue I will not be upgrading to Vista becasue XP supports all of my need however, if Leapord does not allow me to dual boot, (because I dont want to have 2 OS's running at the same time), then I will not be upgrading to that either.

[bbrosemer]

Remember the old, old days when the first Mac came out with its icons and mouse. PC users said it was a toy, then Win95 came out with the same type GUI and Apple went after MS because it was a great interface and MS knew it.

MS is still way behind when it comes to aesthetics. Win95 thru XP were just softer, more colorful versions of the prior OS, aesthetically speaking.
...Wrong... Windows 2 copied off of System 7, Jobs gave Bill a Macintosh to work on and "devlop" software for it, when instead all he did was steal the GUI and call it his own. Then again Apple did take it from Xerox but Xerox knew this was going on.

[Sirin]

http://itruth.275mb.com/index.php?id=8

Videos showing Microsoft's stunted innovation skills.