Overlapping Text Rendering Problems?

[arn]

I want to try to get a count of how many people this overlapping-text rendering problem is affecting.

example image:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49790&d=1149732340

Also, please post if you are getting these problems in a browser that is not Safari.

arn

[iGary]

Me.

"Stock" Safari. 2.0.3 (417.9.3)

[katie ta achoo]

yes.. me, too.

and I accidentally checked both "occasionally" AND "frequently" :o It's frequently, ignore my vote for "occasionally. :o :o

Usually a refresh fixes it up, but on a few threads, it doesn't help anything.

[eva01]

I am obviously :P (screen grab is mine)

Just got it on this reply as well

The thing is, is that the overlapping only occurs at the top of the page not throughout


Also after my picture uploaded the colors of the page disappeared. No greys or anything, just white

[mad jew]

Just opened six tabs in Safari 2.0.3 after a restart, and came back with two badly rendered pages. :(

[arn]

can people with the problem try the "default" vbulletin theme which is now activated, and let me know if you get the same problems with it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/?styleid=2

arn

[skoker]

can people with the problem try the "default" vbulletin theme which is now activated, and let me know if you get the same problems with it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/?styleid=2

arn

Tis ugly! but works, alas.

[katie ta achoo]

I haven't gotten any overlapping text using this one.. I'll browse around some more, and if it happens again, I'll post here.

But, I've loaded 30 or so threads using this theme, and aside from being hard on my eyes, it's fine.
(oh how I miss the prettiness of the old theme! :p)


edit:
should (attached image) be happening?
Take note of the post count number, too.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5483/picture59we.png (http://imageshack.us)

also, I can't upload images..

[arn]

trying image...

image uploading seems to work for me.

arn

[OutThere]

Somehow the vBulletin 3 skin got turned on, which has reputation and post counts visible...plus the add-to-reputation button. :confused:

I kind of like the skin though, except for the fact that at the top it says "vBulletin" instead of having the MR header.

As to the page rendering problems, I've had them happen a few times but only in one forum...I just can't remember which it was. I want to say either private or picture gallery...I'll wait and see if it happens again.

Edit: I think that image uploading doesn't work in the VB 3 skin. I tried it. Plus the reputations are funny. And I have a star. :D

[mad jew]

Attached images aren't showing for me, inline images are. I'm on the new theme. :)

[arn]

Somehow the vBulletin 3 skin got turned on, which has reputation and post counts visible...plus the add-to-reputation button. :confused:

I kind of like the skin though, except for the fact that at the top it says "vBulletin" instead of having the MR header.

As to the page rendering problems, I've had them happen a few times but only in one forum...I just can't remember which it was. I want to say either private or picture gallery...I'll wait and see if it happens again.

Edit: I think that image uploading doesn't work in the VB 3 skin. I tried it. Plus the reputations are funny. And I have a star. :D

ah... ya, image uploading wont' work on the default theme for now.

No reports of screwed up text in the default theme? I've rebuilt the some of the templates on the regular side.

If you feel brave, you can try going back to the "normal" macrumors theme:

http://forums.macrumors.com/index.php?styleid=16

and let me know if the problems are still there.

arn

[OutThere]

can people with the problem try the "default" vbulletin theme which is now activated, and let me know if you get the same problems with it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/?styleid=2

arn

Somehow the vBulletin 3 skin got turned on, which has reputation and post counts visible...plus the add-to-reputation button.

I need to learn to read. Doh. :o

[mad jew]

Sent you a badly rendered default-themed page. Back on the regular MacRumors theme now to see how things go. :)




Aaaannd this thread rendered badly first load... :(

[katie ta achoo]

I tried to go back to my control panel to edit options, because this HUGE FONT is too huge for me. :p

Rendered badly..

[arn]

alright... scrap that theory I suppose

default theme has problems
regular theme has problems
gzip off
single server (dns round robin off)
images served off one server again

arn

[OutThere]

A little googling shows we're not alone..

http://www.appletalk.com.au/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t17643.html

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/comments-feedback-suggestions/36533-linuxforums-org-pages-not-fully-rendering.html

[arn]

Can everyone post their Safari Build version?

Safari 2.0.2 416.13 <- me, and I see no problems.

arn

[katie ta achoo]

the pics thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=38844&page=104) just loaded badly over here...

I'm on Safari build 2.0.3 417.9.3

[ITASOR]

2.03 (417.9.2) - Frequent problems.

Hey, I'm in Arn's example image, and I see double of myself! :p

[arn]

where did 419 build come from?

I'm on a Dual G5 with Mac OS 10.4.6

arn

[EricNau]

I have never had any problems. I'm using Safari Version 2.0.3 (417.9.3).

[skoker]

Here's what I've got:

EDIT: the attach window is broken too!

[EricNau]

EDIT: the attach window is broken too!
Not for me. ...But for the few seconds I tried changing my theme to vbulletin 3, your attach window was empty. I switched back to the forum default and it works fine again.

[mad jew]

Safari 2.0.3, build version 417.9.3 here. I'm as up-to-date as Software Updater will let me be, and I have no extras installed. I get quite frequent problems (although it's not that much of a bother to just refresh the page). :)

[puckhead193]

i haven't any problems what so ever i'm using safari Version 2.0.3 (417.9.3)

[eva01]

Safari 2.0.3 (417.9.3)

I will state this does not happen on vbulletin.org vbulletin.com or my site. So it can't be just a safari vB thing it has to be something else.

A certain hack that doesn't like safari or something

[arn]

This same issue appears to have been reported:

http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8772

I submitted my own bug (http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9443) report before I saw this one. I don't know why it affects vbulletin boards specifically, but it does appear to be an association.

[eva01]

Maybe it is due to the number of posts. The three sites i listed above combined don't have as many as MR

EDIT: nope that site has only 52 or 520 thousand posts (forget how much)

I am totally lost on why it happens just here for me

[thedude110]

Crap.

I also accidentally voted twice.

I see overlapping text very infrequently with Camino 1.0b2+

Will send a screengrab and/or source next time one pops, if that helps.

[arn]

Crap.

I also accidentally voted twice.

I see overlapping text very infrequently with Camino 1.0b2+

Will send a screengrab and/or source next time one pops, if that helps.

hmm.... ya, a non-safari screenshot would be helpful.

arn

[arn]

Another issue

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=296274

[arn]

another suggestion, especially for people who are getting it a lot, is to try the most recent nightly builds of Safari

http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/

see if that makes a difference

arn

[thomasp]

I've never had rendering issues here on Safari 2.0.3, using the MR skin.

But, for what it's worth, I get a lot of issues like the one in this post: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2517874&postcount=8 on another vB3.5 forum when using the default vB skin - so, the problem isn't only at MR.

[gekko513]

I just got overlapping text rendering again...

[BakedBeans]

I just got one and have had a few problems today....
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9025/picture15kn.jpg

I got the source code but then stupidly copied the url for ^ that image over it

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

First I clicked for "occasionally", then I thought 'it hasn't been that often lately' and clicked "very infrequent", and the poll accepted both... :eek:

But that's actually the best answer I could give because I've just changed browser:

Firefox 1.5.0.4 (with AdBlock) under 10.4.6: Occasionally (but I just never thought much of it)
Bon Echo 2.0a3 (with Adblock Plus) still under 10.4.6: Very infrequent (just twice, I think)

Just reloading the page has always corrected it.

[mad jew]

Okay, happened to me twice just now (second time was opening this thread to make this post) so my theory about failed page loads or bad rendering is shot... :(

[blackfox]

I have it pretty infrequently, perhaps 5 times in the last 3 days.

Using Safari version 2.0.3 (417.9.3).

oh, 10.4.6.

[Chundles]

I have:

- looks like people are quoting entire pages
- posts disappearing
- buttons and stuff that usually appears at the end of the page appear inside the final post on that page.

[Koodauw]

I'm on Safari build 2.0.3 417.9.3
Me too, but my problem has been occasional at most.

[eva01]

A new one that i have gotten a few times today is a page not completely loading

4 or 5 posts on the page load, i will see just text for what styleid i am using and thats it. I will take a screencap next time it happens.

A refresh makes the rest of the posts and page show up

Just happened but i am sending it in a PM

[Lau]

I'm using Camino Version 2006042704 (1.0.1), and have had minor text disruption, maybe once a day. The usual way it shows is by if a user has a short post, usually there would be white space below, so the post height was still the same to allow for the height of their avatar, location, AIM button etc. Well, in this case the post is exactly the height of their words, so their avatar and location overlap the next post. It's minor compared to some of the examples above, and doesn't disrupt my MR pleasure significantly. :D I think it happened a few times months ago, but it has been happening again recently, and seems to coincide with the problems others are having.

Hope that makes sense, and I'll screengrab it and edit this post when it happens again.

[Applespider]

Mine's not so much overlapping as having things render in the wrong places and have losing chunks of the bottom navigation and 'Post Reply' button

[skoker]

Not for me. ...But for the few seconds I tried changing my theme to vbulletin 3, your attach window was empty. I switched back to the forum default and it works fine again.

Not where the attachments show up, the window where you attach something.


I wonder if having Debug on has anything to do with it? How many people with problems have Safari Debug on?

[OutThere]

If I could I'd change my vote. In the last 24 hours I've started getting them like 1/4 page loads. :(

Edit: I also noticed a new one today. The page loads up to a certain post, then that post fills with the rest of the posts on the page...they're nested inside this one post. Most strange. I'll post a pic if it happens again.

[rdowns]

First time this ever happened to me.

[mad jew]

I wonder if having Debug on has anything to do with it? How many people with problems have Safari Debug on?


Which aspect of the Debug menu? I had it turned on for a while, with ATSU fonts checked and the same problems arose. :(

[Transic]

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[mad jew]

It's been happening a lot for the last half an hour. It's about two in every three threads now FWIW. :)

[EricNau]

For what it's worth...

[OutThere]

It hath spread to safari itself. :p

[arn]

can people starting sending bug reports to Apple on this. I think it's a safari issue.

arn

[arn]

anyone with the problem a lot tried the nightly safari builds?

arn

[BakedBeans]

can people starting sending bug reports to Apple on this. I think it's a safari issue.

arn

Will do, its becoming really bad now... buggering every page up almost...

[Applespider]

Edit: I also noticed a new one today. The page loads up to a certain post, then that post fills with the rest of the posts on the page...they're nested inside this one post. Most strange. I'll post a pic if it happens again.

Oh yes... I got that one last night too. Seems very odd since there hasn't been an update on either side?

[skoker]

If I could I'd change my vote. In the last 24 hours I've started getting them like 1/4 page loads. :(

Edit: I also noticed a new one today. The page loads up to a certain post, then that post fills with the rest of the posts on the page...they're nested inside this one post. Most strange. I'll post a pic if it happens again.

Here, I just got it:

[Applespider]

Not sure if something else has changed but whereas last night I was getting one of these odd errors seldomly enough that I couldn't tell you what % it was, tonight it's much more frequent. Probably one in 10 pages is rendering like with the bottom navigation inside the final post

Safari Version 2.0.3 (417.9.3) with Debug menu on and yeah, I've sent feedback to Apple too

[OutThere]

Not sure if something else has changed but whereas last night I was getting one of these odd errors seldomly enough that I couldn't tell you what % it was, tonight it's much more frequent. Probably one in 10 pages is rendering like with the bottom navigation inside the final post

Safari Version 2.0.3 (417.9.3) with Debug menu on and yeah, I've sent feedback to Apple too

Yep. It has increased exponentially in, say, the last 24 hours.

I'm getting wretched bottom navigation on pretty much every page, problems with the posts themselves on maybe 1/2 the pages.

[iRachel]

I had the overlapping text problem for the first time last night - it hasn't happened again since.

Safari 2.0.3 (417.9.3)

[mjstew33]

I've had it three times this afternoon. Two pics.

edit: and again! :\

[mjstew33]

I just sent this to Apple.
Safari Team at Apple,

There is a problem at the forums at MacRumors. It is inconsistent but happens often, and is noted by other users. What is happening is the text is being scrambled together and the page isn't being loaded correctly.

Text scrambled screen shot: http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50415&d=1150414729

Page not being loaded correctly screenshot:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50511&d=1150502388

Please fix this as soon as possible.

Thanks,

Sincere Mac Users

[thedude110]

hmm.... ya, a non-safari screenshot would be helpful.

arn


From Camino (1.0b2+) tonight.

50921

Link. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=210777&page=2&highlight=drool)

[mad jew]

Probably not worthy of its own thread because it's only happened once but I noticed the front page had some white text issues earlier today. I had to highlight the article to read it. FWIW, this was on Derek the Dell. :cool:


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[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I had a small incident today, too, on the search page (that's new)... it's been a while, so I naturally forgot to save the page source (:o) but I did manage to get a screen capture before finishing:

52188

Using Bon Echo 2.0a3 (aka Firefox 2.0 alpha 3) with Mac OS x 10.4.7 on my MacBook...

[imacintel]

can people with the problem try the "default" vbulletin theme which is now activated, and let me know if you get the same problems with it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/?styleid=2

arn

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Doesn't work for me.

[mad jew]

Does it just show up as the regular skin for MacRumors for you? :)

[imacintel]

Does it just show up as the regular skin for MacRumors for you? :)
Yeah.

[mad jew]

Same. The vBulletin default skin was turned off quite a while ago. :)