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blufire
Jun 16, 2006, 11:28 AM
they added built-in speakers like those in the iMac! Anyone else agree? I think it'd just be a nice touch, since the speakers in the iMac are pretty darn good for their size and no other LCD display on the market has speakers worth listening to, IMO.

kjr39
Jun 16, 2006, 11:52 AM
Anyone else agree?

No.

But, I think they would rock if they reduced the price to put them in line with the market and added card readers so I don't have to crawl under my desk every time I wanted to plug in my CF card reader....

Timepass
Jun 16, 2006, 11:52 AM
they added built-in speakers like those in the iMac! Anyone else agree? I think it'd just be a nice touch, since the speakers in the iMac are pretty darn good for their size and no other LCD display on the market has speakers worth listening to, IMO.

I am just going to say no.

Why because montior speakers are general pretty crappy to being with. And even teh speakers in the iMac I think are crap. They are to limited by size to really be very good.

If apple did that more people would no longer consider the apple monitor a viable option for monitor. They dont want speakers in it. As I said monitor speakers are complete crap including the iMacs. I stick with my 2.1 speaker system any day. Much cleaner sound and there is a sub to cover the low end (Adn ti not the deep thumping sound. It just makes the low notes sound better)

JackSYi
Jun 16, 2006, 11:57 AM
I am just going to say no.

Why because montior speakers are general pretty crappy to being with. And even teh speakers in the iMac I think are crap. They are to limited by size to really be very good.

If apple did that more people would no longer consider the apple monitor a viable option for monitor. They dont want speakers in it. As I said monitor speakers are complete crap including the iMacs. I stick with my 2.1 speaker system any day. Much cleaner sound and there is a sub to cover the low end (Adn ti not the deep thumping sound. It just makes the low notes sound better)

I don't know about the built-in speakers. But I'm sure Apple will put in a built-in iSight camera. (WWDC?)

Menkar
Jun 16, 2006, 12:20 PM
Built-in iSight
Height adjustable stand
Lower price:rolleyes:
HDCP support

I don't think built-in speakers is a good idea. Separte speakers are normally better sounding and you get a wide selection of stereo, stereo + subwoofer all the way to THX-certified 5.1 systems.

psycho bob
Jun 16, 2006, 12:52 PM
I don't know about the built-in speakers. But I'm sure Apple will put in a built-in iSight camera. (WWDC?)

I really don't see the point especially if you run dual monitors. Why should you have to pay an extra £100 for a second camera you'll never use. I'd rather they added a third FW port and provided anyone who bought a display or two with a discount to get a stand alone isight for free or at a big saving.

For desktop use having the camera separate is much more useful anyway.

NATO
Jun 16, 2006, 12:53 PM
I reckon Apple won't put iSight into the Cinema Displays for two reasons:

1. As a professional product, especially where there a certain proportion of customers will be using dual monitors, I reckon Apple will reason that it wouldn't be practical or aesthetic to include iSight into the panels (also think of the fact the panels would likely be off-centre, with no way of adjusting the camera's view).

2. Why would you spend £90 on an external iSight camera, unless you wanted much better quality, which puts it into the professional bracket anyway, where you can buy accessories for the iSight such as a light, and it's fully adjustable.

Overall, Apple would likely find sales of the external iSight camera would drop and would 'spoil' an otherwise uncluttered design. A price drop though... we can only hope on that one (except me, I've just bought a second one!)

EricNau
Jun 16, 2006, 12:56 PM
I am just going to say no.

Why because montior speakers are general pretty crappy to being with. And even teh speakers in the iMac I think are crap. They are to limited by size to really be very good.
I think the speakers inside the iMac are amazing. I even had one of my PC friends comment that they sounded better than his surround-sound.

If Apple could add speakers to the ACDs without charging more or adding anymore bulk, then I say go for it. If you don't want to use them, don't plug them in and you'd never know they were there.

blufire
Jun 16, 2006, 03:08 PM
I think the speakers inside the iMac are amazing. I even had one of my PC friends comment that they sounded better than his surround-sound.

If Apple could add speakers to the ACDs without charging more or adding anymore bulk, then I say go for it. If you don't want to use them, don't plug them in and you'd never know they were there.

That's what I had in mind. I'm not saying they should compete with actual sound systems (I myself have a dual-sub, 4-satellite system). But the reason I think this would be great is that you generally use ACDs with Power Macs, which don't have very good sound (and aren't meant to). If you move around (i.e. coming home from college) and you don't want to set all your speakers up because you'll be leaving again in two months, it would make sense to have decent speakers in your monitor for a simple setup that will get you by in the meantime.

But yeah I think it's more important that Apple drive down the costs a bit more.. I went with a ViewSonic 20" because it was less than half the cost of the 20" ACD (even with educational pricing), and the image quality is just as good (possibly better). Plus, the ViewSonic VX2025wm is one of the few non-Apple flat panel displays that is acceptable in appearance (to me). Haha. :P

jaysmith
Jun 16, 2006, 09:39 PM
no isight, no speakers, just a nice clean flat panel. both would only add bulk, and would sound like garbage. if you want speakers in your monitor for some reason, go with any other brand. if you want a webcam, for gods sake break a 20 and get yourself one. external ones are fully adjustable which already makes them better than a built in.

i think they need to be more adjustable and definitely support rotation to work in portrait mode. and a 17" to put them into a bigger niche. maybe a built in isight on the 17" because it wouldn't be so targeted to pro users.

zap2
Jun 16, 2006, 09:52 PM
2. Why would you spend £90 on an external iSight camera, unless you wanted much better quality, w


I'm pretty sure Jobs said the built in iSight to the iMac was better then(2x better)t the external iSight

wonga1127
Jun 27, 2006, 12:20 AM
If they put an iSight on the CDs, then they probably wouldn't be the bezel mounted ones seen on the iMac, MB/P, etc. I'm think what they should do is make a smaller iSight with no cable, so there would be a firewire port on top, and the iSight would lie flush with the monitor, but still have an articulating arm, because the CD's are, well, big.

More USB/Firewire ports, Card Readers, and thinner, more bang for buck.

celebrian23
Jun 27, 2006, 12:29 AM
a price drop is all i want

dextertangocci
Jun 27, 2006, 02:04 AM
What about that rumour that Apple were going to put thousands of tiny cameras in their displays. That would be cool:cool:

Counterfit
Jun 27, 2006, 02:42 AM
I read the thread title, and thought there would be a good idea in the first post. :rolleyes:

jdechko
Jun 30, 2006, 10:12 AM
The only thing I can think of that would reall make them better is the price drop. I mean, I don't really require a card reader too often, but having a usb port on the monitor would be a simple connection to the ACD and comptuer. Speakers aren't a great idea because of the mentioned ideas before. A component input with adapters (for S-Video and composite) would be useful. In my opinion, that (and price) is all that the Dell really has over the ACD, and the ACD is infinitely more beautiful.

Clydefrog
Jul 1, 2006, 06:07 PM
TV Tuner, for sure in the 30in

NATO
Jul 10, 2006, 09:22 AM
I'm pretty sure Jobs said the built in iSight to the iMac was better then(2x better)t the external iSight

It's entirely possible, I just assumed that because the external iSight had a much more substantial lens that it would be of higher quality. I have to admit I've never actually used an iSight but I'm not sure I'd want them built into Cinema Displays.

Minimalist design works so well, I think its a shame to clutter an otherwise amazing design with a black spot at the top :p

ipacmm
Jul 10, 2006, 10:07 AM
I really don't want anything to change, I think the current display's are great. The only thing that would be nice would be a price drop on the 30 and maybe some extra ports.

bigandy
Jul 10, 2006, 10:16 AM
I really don't want anything to change, I think the current display's are great. The only thing that would be nice would be a price drop on the 30 and maybe some extra ports.

i'm pretty much with you on this.

i think they should add 2x FW800 ports to them, so there's 4 FW...

the iSight would maybe work but i think they will just update the external iSight - because the tilt it can do is much more useful when it's perched atop the 30" than on a MB.

Josh
Jul 10, 2006, 10:31 AM
They would rock if...

Apple focused on the way it works more than the way it looks, while simultaineously reducing their price to be competitive with the rest of the competition.

Half quality, double price = fancy looking over-price garbage.

supremedesigner
Jul 10, 2006, 11:22 AM
I heard ACD will come with GLOSSY screen (just like MB!) :eek: :p ;) :rolleyes:

tdhurst
Jul 10, 2006, 11:41 AM
I think the speakers inside the iMac are amazing. I even had one of my PC friends comment that they sounded better than his surround-sound.

If Apple could add speakers to the ACDs without charging more or adding anymore bulk, then I say go for it. If you don't want to use them, don't plug them in and you'd never know they were there.

Your buddy's surround sound system must SUCK. Granted, the iMac speakers are good for built-in systems, but are nothing compared to externals.
The ACDs look great, they have a small bezel and they are pretty simplistic. I DON'T want to buy one thing that does two things okay, I want to buy ONE thing that does ONE task well, period.

eddx
Jul 10, 2006, 11:49 AM
Apple Cinema Displays Would Rock if...

They had too types, Apple Pro Display and Apple Display...

Apple Display

18inch and 20inch versions, DVI and VGA, white and black version (same price), built in isight camera, built in speakers,

Apple Pro Display

20inch, 23inch, 30inch versions, DVI, VGA, HDCP, Composite, 4 firewire + 4 usb 2, card reader, built in isight camera, built in speakers, height adjustable (same price as current cinema displays) and available in just silver.

Anyone agree?

RndmAxess
Jul 10, 2006, 12:08 PM
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cwright
Jul 10, 2006, 12:53 PM
Apple Cinema Displays Would Rock if...

They had too types, Apple Pro Display and Apple Display...

Apple Display

18inch and 20inch versions, DVI and VGA, white and black version (same price), built in isight camera, built in speakers,

Apple Pro Display

20inch, 23inch, 30inch versions, DVI, VGA, HDCP, Composite, 4 firewire + 4 usb 2, card reader, built in isight camera, built in speakers, height adjustable (same price as current cinema displays) and available in just silver.

Anyone agree?
Might not be a bad idea–would help increase the Pro Display's functionality to be more comparable to the Dell displays. But I'd add Component inputs to the mix on the Pro Display, and remove the speakers and isight (or make them optional/detachable).

xli_ne
Jul 10, 2006, 01:01 PM
Your buddy's surround sound system must SUCK.

:D

i just find that quote funny

Silencio
Jul 21, 2006, 09:23 PM
Height adjustable stand
Lower price:rolleyes:
HDCP support

Yes, yes, and yes.

I've never been a big fan of internal card readers. Since new card formats come out far too often even still, those multi-format card readers become obsolete far too quickly. It's much easier to replace an external multi-format card reader than one built-in to the side of a display or inside a laptop, that's for sure. Besides, all those ugly slots cluttering up the look. :p

It would be very nice if Apple could come up with a truly affordable display to pair with the Mac mini. I guess at the rate that 20" panels are dropping in price, that could be the current 20" Cinema Display. Just drop that price to $400 already and be done with it.

If only the 23" panels would drop as sharply and as quickly. Still in the $1K range for most models not made by Dell.

bradc
Jul 22, 2006, 01:12 PM
i think they should add 2x FW800 ports to them, so there's 4 FW...




Yeah, amen to that! It would be perfect for my external hard drives, I think eddx had a sort of cool idea with the two lines of monitors. But, I don't see it happening soon?

Platform
Jul 23, 2006, 06:32 AM
No.

But I do agree that the speakers in the iMac are VERY good to what you get elsewhere. These speakers you can actually use :eek:

I think there should be new panels in the ACD's (Faster respons time, contrast ratio etc)

Price drop, other than that they seem fine to me, well Apple does need to do what only Apple does when they update them though....something we can't come up with :D