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Chuck
Feb 26, 2003, 05:54 PM
Everyone seems to talk about the sticky trackpad button on the 12" with great disdain. Does it stick on your dad's 17"?

Sorry if you've already been asked this...

Chuck.
http://www.madebydesign.net

janey
Feb 26, 2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Chuck
Everyone seems to talk about the sticky trackpad button on the 12" with great disdain. Does it stick on your dad's 17"?

Sorry if you've already been asked this...

Chuck.
http://www.madebydesign.net
perhaps a PM would be nicer, I didn't see this thread for some time until one of my friends told me.
Ummmm i'm using it right now and i don't have a real problem with it perhaps i got a little too used to it.
It's the size of the screen that *still* bugs me.

ryme4reson
Feb 26, 2003, 08:30 PM
Just a quick question, how did U get it so fast? Chuck mentioned your father, does he do something @ Apple, thus got the machine sooner?

I had a 15" on order from an Apple employee, but they said that although I could upgrade to the 17" it would still be 3-4 weeks.

janey
Feb 26, 2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by ryme4reson
Just a quick question, how did U get it so fast? Chuck mentioned your father, does he do something @ Apple, thus got the machine sooner?

I had a 15" on order from an Apple employee, but they said that although I could upgrade to the 17" it would still be 3-4 weeks.
haha my dad works at apple ;)
therefore i got a machine pretty quickly.

Chuck
Feb 26, 2003, 11:15 PM
Hey über.... What about:

- fan noise
- changing batteries whilst in sleep mode
- heat of the machine underneath
- and does the screen ever touch the keys?

Chuck
http://www.madebydesign.net

Chuck
Feb 26, 2003, 11:22 PM
How come? Too big you mean?

Chuck
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ryme4reson
Feb 26, 2003, 11:27 PM
Thats cool, how long did you have to wait? Under the EPP (Employee Purchase Program) I was still going to have 2 wait 3-4 weeks.

I used to want to work at Apple, then I realized it was nothing more than a dream. Who would ever want to work in an industry that is so volatile. I have known many people who worked at Apple, and in technology in general, and most of them are always changing jobs and going from here to there (not to mention the current and future recessions.)

janey
Feb 27, 2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Chuck
Hey über.... What about:

- fan noise
- changing batteries whilst in sleep mode
- heat of the machine underneath
- and does the screen ever touch the keys?

Chuck
http://www.madebydesign.net
it's one of the preproduction machine thingies.
Fan noise not bad, batteries in sleep mode never tried, heat never cared, screen touch keys-doesn't that happen with every single apple laptop?

nanosound
Feb 27, 2003, 01:00 AM
The people I know working for Apple are always there...working.

ryme4reson
Feb 27, 2003, 12:33 PM
The people I know working for Apple are always there...working.

Right, they are always working until the pink slips comes. I have known about 6 people who have been laid off, and a few current employees who are pissed at the lack of raises. I understand this is the business cycles, and tech isnt doing so hot, but as a young adult I cant understand why I would want to get into such an unstable business. I personally enjoy getting my check every two weeks, and knowing I will have a job next month. I can finance that car, boat, or trip to Brazil knowing I can pay it off.

Personally I have known these people let go from Apple
Hardware -- Ex girlfriends father ( somewhere around 97)
Software -- Friend of a friend (Jan 01)
Other -- an ex girlfriend (Dec 02-Jan 03)
Networking /Software (dont remember the dates)
Intranet / Email (somewhere in 97)

I have realized not many people are going to "retire" from Apple. A few people made enough in the 80's w/ stock that they are sitting fat now, but as for the young, bright, programmer, I just dont see the reasoning. I dont want to work my ass off, just to be let go.

Megaquad
Feb 27, 2003, 01:22 PM
übergeek please tell us about that screen thing that you said it bugs you

MacFan25
Feb 27, 2003, 04:30 PM
ubergeek - when did your dad get his alubook?

janey
Feb 27, 2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Megaquad
übergeek please tell us about that screen thing that you said it bugs you
17" is pretty big for a laptop and although i'm used to gigantic LCD's on desktops, i'm not that used to it on laptops :)
it's like a built in cinema display in the AluBook!

law guy
Feb 27, 2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by übergeek
it's one of the preproduction machine thingies.
Fan noise not bad, batteries in sleep mode never tried, heat never cared, screen touch keys-doesn't that happen with every single apple laptop?

The keys are not supposed to touch the screen on the 12 and 17" PBs. Apple has added little rubber nubs to the corners of the screen which I've read was intended to keep the screen from touching the keys.

janey
Feb 27, 2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by law guy
The keys are not supposed to touch the screen on the 12 and 17" PBs. Apple has added little rubber nubs to the corners of the screen which I've read was intended to keep the screen from touching the keys.
they did that on the iBooks and it doesn't work i see these little places on the LCD where it looks filthy. on the alubook i haven't noticed yet.

MacAztec
Feb 27, 2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by übergeek
they did that on the iBooks and it doesn't work i see these little places on the LCD where it looks filthy. on the alubook i haven't noticed yet.

Wash your hands then, and it wont be filthy:p ;) :D

janey
Feb 27, 2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by MacAztec
Wash your hands then, and it wont be filthy:p ;) :D
i'm not the only one who uses it...everyone from people i just met to my parents.

Megaquad
Feb 28, 2003, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by übergeek
17" is pretty big for a laptop and although i'm used to gigantic LCD's on desktops, i'm not that used to it on laptops :)
it's like a built in cinema display in the AluBook!
well if you dont like it give it to me :p :D

Tiauguinho
Feb 28, 2003, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by Megaquad
well if you dont like it give it to me :p :D

LOL!!! You will still have to wait some months until you get yours Mega. I can feel your pain of waiting and waiting and waiting... and then that beachball spinning and you waiting and waiting... :D Apple needs to speed up things for delivery, cause this waiting game drives people nuts!

P.S. That Star Trek site you have Mega is awsome!!! Congratulations!

Megaquad
Feb 28, 2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Tiauguinho
LOL!!! You will still have to wait some months until you get yours Mega. I can feel your pain of waiting and waiting and waiting... and then that beachball spinning and you waiting and waiting... :D Apple needs to speed up things for delivery, cause this waiting game drives people nuts!

P.S. That Star Trek site you have Mega is awsome!!! Congratulations!
how you dare to mock my powerful imac! *trying to type this with 2 secs lag before key pressed appears in this txtfield with lots of colorful spinning beachballs* :D
and cmon, that is only 'coming soon' intro for my website, its not even complete yet

law guy
Mar 1, 2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by übergeek
they did that on the iBooks and it doesn't work i see these little places on the LCD where it looks filthy. on the alubook i haven't noticed yet.

Now that I've looked at the 17" I haven't actually seen the rubber nubs - but your father's 17" has them? Also, just curious, - what was the country of origin on the pre-production machine you're using?

rideahyperLite
Mar 1, 2003, 01:41 PM
i saw a preproduction 17" at the short hills store and i was pretty sure that the keys didnt touch the screen.

janey
Mar 1, 2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by law guy
Now that I've looked at the 17" I haven't actually seen the rubber nubs - but your father's 17" has them? Also, just curious, - what was the country of origin on the pre-production machine you're using?
hell i have no idea. there are no nubs on the 17" i was just saying that the iBooks do and they're useless ;)

rideahyperLite
Mar 1, 2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by übergeek
hell i have no idea. there are no nubs on the 17" i was just saying that the iBooks do and they're useless ;)

there were nubs on the preproduction one i saw

janey
Mar 1, 2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by rideahyperLite
there were nubs on the preproduction one i saw
There aren't any on mine or else i'm blind...are you sure it's the 17"? i think the 12" alubooks do...

rideahyperLite
Mar 2, 2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by übergeek
There aren't any on mine or else i'm blind...are you sure it's the 17"? i think the 12" alubooks do...

yeah im positive it was the 17 but now im begining to think that it didnt have them because the keys were set lower in the bottom of the laptop so there wouldn't be a need for them... i am almost positive that the screen doesn't touch the keys also..

szark
Mar 2, 2003, 01:25 AM
Just looked at the Quicktime VR images on Apple's site -- the 12" has nubs and the 17" doesn't.

janey
Mar 2, 2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by rideahyperLite
yeah im positive it was the 17 but now im begining to think that it didnt have them because the keys were set lower in the bottom of the laptop so there wouldn't be a need for them... i am almost positive that the screen doesn't touch the keys also..
i'm looking at mine right now
1. There are no nubs on the 17"
2. The screen doesn't touch the keys.

Chuck
Mar 2, 2003, 08:58 PM
It's been a good 3 or 4 years since I bought a mac, and now that the PB is on the way, I noticed that it's RAM is DDR. Does this mean that 512 DDR RAM is equivalent to 1024 of ordinary RAM?

This is probably a really silly question, but I just thought I'd show my ignorance...

?

Chuck.
http://www.madebydesign.net

b-smooth
Mar 2, 2003, 09:55 PM
DDR ram means Double-Data Rate. It just runs at a faster speed and can push data thru quicker. It is 10 fold better than regual pc 100 or 133 ram. You will notice quite a difference with DDR ram. So, 512 is not equivalent to 1024 or pc100 ram. I ordered my 17incher with a gig of ram because ram is one of the most important speed enhancements you can invest in. I think it's worth the extra couple hundred.

LosJackal
Mar 2, 2003, 10:20 PM
uber, if you would look, what brand and model hard drive does your 17" have?

Chuck
Mar 2, 2003, 10:23 PM
Yeah, I thought maybe it was twice the speed because of it being 'double' data rate... So it's less than double the speed of standard Ram then?

Shame, in Australia the extra Ram is more than $600.

<edit> I just found out from my reseller that I can get the 512MB DDR ram for $295, even though Apple Australia are still asking $660 for it. I'm definitely going to get it now, but will wait til the machine arrives since it may even be a lower by then...</edit>

Chuck
http://www.madebydesign.net