[question] Release date for OSX.5

[makkystyle]

Anytime that any of the Rumor/News sites make mention of the next iteration of OSX they have all (at least from what I've seen) put the release into a January '07 time frame. Now I'm not calling into question their sources as I have witnessed very accurate predictions over the last several years by many of these sites, but it seems to me that Apple has a prime opportunity with a completely new revolution of desktop computer (Intel Mac) to introduce the new OS alongside it. With new machines predicted to be announced in August, and if Apple goes with it's traditional release now, ship later mentality that could push arrival of the new desktops to September/October timeframe. Seeing how 10.4.7 is already imminent couldn't that be a possible release timeframe for 10.5?

Thoughts?...

[tipdrill407]

10.5 will come out late 2006 or early 2007 around the same time Windows Vista will be released.

[zephead]

HA, by the end of 2006, Microsoft is going to state that Vista should be released by early 2008. Leopard will definitely come out before Vista. ;)

[WildCowboy]

The 10.4.7 release timeframe really has nothing to do with the 10.5 release. Both PowerMacs (Mac Pros) and 10.5 will be released when they are ready. Delaying one until the other is ready is not a good idea, so I would tend to trust much of the current speculation...Mac Pros in August and 10.5 in January.

[Sogo]

Hmm...As much as i would love to believe that Leopard will come out in jan of 2007, i think it will be released in march'ish of 2007. Granted, i would love to be suprized.

[michaelrjohnson]

I'm thinking we'll get a confirmed shipping date at WWDC. I think it will be in January, but Sogo has an interesting point. I could very well see the release party (and demonstration) at MWSF, with an actual shipping date in March.

[bosrs1]

Anytime that any of the Rumor/News sites make mention of the next iteration of OSX they have all (at least from what I've seen) put the release into a January '07 time frame. Now I'm not calling into question their sources as I have witnessed very accurate predictions over the last several years by many of these sites, but it seems to me that Apple has a prime opportunity with a completely new revolution of desktop computer (Intel Mac) to introduce the new OS alongside it. With new machines predicted to be announced in August, and if Apple goes with it's traditional release now, ship later mentality that could push arrival of the new desktops to September/October timeframe. Seeing how 10.4.7 is already imminent couldn't that be a possible release timeframe for 10.5?

Thoughts?...
As someone who knows people on the Mac Pro and iTunes teams let me just say that, no we won't see Leopard at WWDC beyond a work in progress view. It will come next winter/spring and no sooner.

However we will be getting a big surprise at WWDC regarding the Mac Pro. It's not what everyone expects.

[thejadedmonkey]

As someone who knows people on the Mac Pro and iTunes teams let me just say that, no we won't see Leopard at WWDC beyond a work in progress view. It will come next winter/spring and no sooner.

However we will be getting a big surprise at WWDC regarding the Mac Pro. It's not what everyone expects.
Do we get any hints? And by next winter/spring, do you mean the winter/spring of 06/07, or 07/08?

[bosrs1]

Do we get any hints? And by next winter/spring, do you mean the winter/spring of 06/07, or 07/08?
Winter or Spring of 2006/7. Probably around March based on how confident everyone seems. Apparently they've had a few delays but nothing on the scale we've seen coming out of Redmond.

And as for the Mac Pro, it's not going to be Conroe or his buddies in the tower... we're getting something, unique.

[Satori]

And as for the Mac Pro, it's not going to be Conroe or his buddies in the tower... we're getting something, unique.

An unannounced processor?

[Peace]

Winter or Spring of 2006/7. Probably around March based on how confident everyone seems. Apparently they've had a few delays but nothing on the scale we've seen coming out of Redmond.

And as for the Mac Pro, it's not going to be Conroe or his buddies in the tower... we're getting something, unique.

Not questioning you or anything but I'd advise your "friends" to remember the NDA..

[bosrs1]

An unannounced processor?
I will not confirm or deny the above statement... ;)

[bosrs1]

Not questioning you or anything but I'd advise your "friends" to remember the NDA..
As I said below, in the interests of their jobs, I will neither confirm nor deny anything beyond what I've already said. And for the record it both sucks ass and kicks ass to know things other people don't. But suffice it to say I'm putting off my purchase of a new Mac until the Mac Pro because of what I've learned.

[Peace]

As I said below, in the interests of their jobs, I will neither confirm nor deny anything beyond what I've already said. And for the record it both sucks ass and kicks ass to know things other people don't. But suffice it to say I'm putting off my purchase of a new Mac until the Mac Pro because of what I've learned.


That's cool man..Just remember Apple watches this site..;)

[Electro Funk]

As I said below, in the interests of their jobs, I will neither confirm nor deny anything beyond what I've already said. And for the record it both sucks ass and kicks ass to know things other people don't. But suffice it to say I'm putting off my purchase of a new Mac until the Mac Pro because of what I've learned.

you mean above? :p

[bosrs1]

That's cool man..Just remember Apple watches this site..;)
Well I won't be posting their names and positions so I think they're ok. Oh and Apple if you're watching :p

[Soulstorm]

HA, by the end of 2006, Microsoft is going to state that Vista should be released by early 2008. Leopard will definitely come out before Vista. ;)
Haha, I already imagine Microsoft's announcement:

--We are terribly sorry, but we haven't been able to copy all the features of the current version of OS X. Our technicians were only able to copy OS X until release 10.4.4. Until we set our Vista product to be an exact garbage copy of OS X 10.4.6 and 10.5, we can't tell when our product will come out.

[Bern]

Haha, I already imagine Microsoft's announcement:

--We are terribly sorry, but we haven't been able to copy all the features of the current version of OS X. Our technicians were only able to copy OS X until release 10.4.4. Until we set our Vista product to be an exact garbage copy of OS X 10.4.6 and 10.5, we can't tell when our product will come out.

Man! I hope they release Vista soon I'm hanging out for Adobe to release CS# :p

[DevilsRejection]

I'm going to say January since trend show that a point release, example: 10.4.X happens every 2 months

You can extrapolate that data to figure out that 10.5 should come out in December, but I'm going to be optimistic and say January @ Macworld SF

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

I'm going to say January since trend show that a point release, example: 10.4.X happens every 2 months

You can extrapolate that data to figure out that 10.5 should come out in December, but I'm going to be optimistic and say January @ Macworld SF

10.5 does not equal 10.4.10. It's not a decimal system....:rolleyes:

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

Winter or Spring of 2006/7. Probably around March based on how confident everyone seems. Apparently they've had a few delays but nothing on the scale we've seen coming out of Redmond.

And as for the Mac Pro, it's not going to be Conroe or his buddies in the tower... we're getting something, unique.

So when did you make this "discovery"???

It's just that, in one of your earlier posts, you said this:

I agree. It'll be in high end PC towers so I'd be totally shocked if the best Apple manages in the Mac Pro is a lowly Core Duo.

:rolleyes:

[bosrs1]

So when did you make this "discovery"???

It's just that, in one of your earlier posts, you said this:



:rolleyes:
Obviously I was informed between when I posted the earlier post and now. Note the time stamp on the earlier post was weeks ago.

[thejadedmonkey]

Winter or Spring of 2006/7. Probably around March based on how confident everyone seems.
Lets say Feb 6th, so it's just in time for my birthday, or better yet feb 8th, but apple doesn't usually release things on thursdays..

[JackSYi]

I wish for a November-December release. But realistically I see it being released during MWSF '07 (of which I will be attending).

[4God]

The 10.4.7 release timeframe really has nothing to do with the 10.5 release. Both PowerMacs (Mac Pros) and 10.5 will be released when they are ready. Delaying one until the other is ready is not a good idea, so I would tend to trust much of the current speculation...Mac Pros in August and 10.5 in January.


Agreed. I wish they could release the Mac Pros and Leopard together though.
That would be a stellar event. ;)

[FF_productions]

Winter or Spring of 2006/7. Probably around March based on how confident everyone seems. Apparently they've had a few delays but nothing on the scale we've seen coming out of Redmond.

And as for the Mac Pro, it's not going to be Conroe or his buddies in the tower... we're getting something, unique.

Arrr I can't wait until WWDC!! Can you at least tell me it's at least 3 ghz?

maybe we'll get our 3 ghz G5's...just kidding.

[laughingbabe16]

Could someone please explain to a newbie what this new Leopard thing is? And Vista? Sorry for troubling question, but this seems very interesting.:D

[idea_hamster]

Could someone please explain to a newbie what this new Leopard thing is? And Vista? Sorry for troubling question, but this seems very interesting.:D
Vista is Microsoft's upcoming version of Windows (to replace XP).
Leopard (aka OS X 10.5) is Apple's upcoming version of OS X (to replace Tiger, aka, OS X 10.4)

Agreed. I wish they could release the Mac Pros and Leopard together though.
That would be a stellar event. ;)
Disagree -- each one of these things should be its own "Oh, and one more thing...." ;)

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

Could someone please explain to a newbie what this new Leopard thing is? And Vista? Sorry for troubling question, but this seems very interesting.:D

Leopard is the next major operating system upgrade for Apple Computers. Current Apple Computers (purchased around or after May of last year) use an operating system called Tiger.

Other PC Manufacturers currently use Windows XP as their major operating system (you probably already know that...) Anyway, Microsoft also plans to make a substantial upgrade to Windows XP in the coming months (hopefully) - it's next operating system release will be called Windows Vista.

Typically, Apple releases operating systems more frequently than does Microsoft. For example, in the time Microsoft has released Windows XP and Windows Vista, Apple will have released 5 operating system upgrades.

Leopard and Vista will, however, be released around the same time - late 2006/early 2007 - meaning that Apple users will finally be able to do a direct comparison with PC operating system offerings.

Both Leopard and Vista will include speedy-searching, virtual folders, rich-graphics user interfaces, and other next-generation Operating System features.

At the moment, however, the only realy facts we know about Leopard is that it will incorporate a way for Mac Users to install Windows on the computer. And that's about it...

...when it comes to Vista, on the other hand, we know exactly what is included. Visit microsoft.com for specific features.

Hope this helps :) .

EDIT: Well it looks like idea_hamster beat me to it, but my answer kicks his one's butt...;)

[zephead]

...when it comes to Vista, on the other hand, we know exactly what is included. Visit microsoft.com for specific features.
Unless they need to cut more features out just so it can it arrive by mid-2007. :D