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Bern
Jun 28, 2006, 05:00 PM
Check your software update folks.

QuickTime 7.1.2 addresses an issue previewing iDVD projects. This update is recommended for all QuickTime 7 users.



eva01
Jun 28, 2006, 05:03 PM
51.4MB in size

MacRumors
Jun 28, 2006, 05:04 PM
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Available via Software Update:
QuickTime 7.1.2 addresses an issue previewing iDVD projects. This update is recommended for all QuickTime 7 users.

Important Notice to QuickTime Pro Users
Installation of QuickTime 7 will disable the QuickTime Pro functionality in prior versions of QuickTime, such as QuickTime 5 or QuickTime 6. If you proceed with this installation, you must purchase a new QuickTime 7 Pro key to regain QuickTime Pro functionality. After installation, visit www.apple.com/quicktime (http://www.apple.com/) to purchase a QuickTime 7 Pro key.

Or download from Apple's website: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime712.html

Mudbug
Jun 28, 2006, 05:08 PM
page 2 just because it's relatively minor...

eva01
Jun 28, 2006, 05:11 PM
File size is 51.4MB, Update went smooth, opened quicktime, and it opened so everything is happy.

zv470
Jun 28, 2006, 05:31 PM
Is anyone else having problems connecting with Software Update? I still haven't managed to update to 10.4.7

I don't want to have to manually download these files from apple.com

1mike
Jun 28, 2006, 05:40 PM
Does anyone have a hard time getting multiple quicktime movies to play in safari? My connection is a slow DSL line and the movie has to show up before the color wheel will let me do anything else. It's a bummer in tabbed browsing, when I want to open 7 videos in different tabs. Any scripts, patches, or updates that I'm not aware of?

081440
Jun 28, 2006, 05:46 PM
Does anyone have a hard time getting multiple quicktime movies to play in safari? My connection is a slow DSL line and the movie has to show up before the color wheel will let me do anything else. It's a bummer in tabbed browsing, when I want to open 7 videos in different tabs. Any scripts, patches, or updates that I'm not aware of?


Mine's always done that.... Thought it was normal.

truz
Jun 28, 2006, 06:09 PM
I'm on a iMac Intel 20" and all went flawless as well...

Bern
Jun 28, 2006, 06:10 PM
Um... merge? There is only 1 reply in yours :p ;)


Er... when two threads become one that's a merge :rolleyes:

Verto
Jun 28, 2006, 06:23 PM
Wow, Safari is so snappy now!

1mike
Jun 28, 2006, 06:45 PM
Mine's always done that.... Thought it was normal.

Mine has as well. I keep hoping with every update they will fix the problem. It only started with Tiger.

Stridder44
Jun 28, 2006, 07:09 PM
Thats a big update size for a small fix.

treblah
Jun 28, 2006, 07:20 PM
Wow, no one has complained about rebooting and 'uptime' yet? :eek:

Let me be the first. Seriously Apple, you guys couldn't coordinate 10.4.7 and this at the same time? :p

angelwatt
Jun 28, 2006, 07:38 PM
Dangit, I just updated to 7.1.1 yesterday, geesh. I barely use quicktime anyways. Maybe I'll download it later when I don't mind rebooting.

longofest
Jun 28, 2006, 08:16 PM
I really wish they'd fix Quicktime for good (http://web.mac.com/longofest/iWeb/Site/Tech%20Fest/3482A2BD-0586-40BB-9B92-85856856EC9D.html)... I have so many issues with it, its ridiculous (constantly causing other apps to crash, like Safari, etc).

Scarlet Fever
Jun 28, 2006, 08:50 PM
Why is it that whenever there is a Quicktime upgrade, Pro users have to buy a new key? If i had pro, and i got a new key for every time i updated it, i could have spent more money on QT than i have on my MacBook! (exageration, with a slight element of truth)

Also, that thing where movies cause Safari to freeze up and chew up CPU is annoying. I had 120MB of the 130MB 10.4.7 release downloaded, then a movie in Safari caused it to freeze on me. I had to force quit it, and I couldnt continue the download. so i had to go from the start AGAIN. GAH!

61132
Jun 28, 2006, 09:04 PM
I bet iTunes 6.0.5 comes out tomorrow, quicktime and itunes updates usually come together

61132
Jun 28, 2006, 09:06 PM
Why is it that whenever there is a Quicktime upgrade, Pro users have to buy a new key? If i had pro, and i got a new key for every time i updated it, i could have spent more money on QT than i have on my MacBook! (slight exageration, with a slight element of truth)

Also, that thing where movies cause Safari to freeze up and chew up CPU is annoying. I had 120MB of the 130MB 10.4.7 release downloaded, then a movie in Safari caused it to freeze on me. I had to force quit it, and I couldnt continue the download. so i had to go from the start AGAIN. GAH!


You only have to buy a new key with major quicktime updates (5 to 6 or 6 to 7) not minor updates (7.1.1 to 7.1.2)

dbhays
Jun 28, 2006, 10:04 PM
Fixed my idvd problems just in time. I have been very frustrated this past week while making a project. Problems over.:) :D

Bern
Jun 28, 2006, 11:32 PM
crash! goes itunes for me.

Greenjeens
Jun 29, 2006, 12:09 AM
I'm now afraid of Quicktime updates, 7.1.1 caused me to be unable to burn my apple lossles itunes library to CD. In a haste to get Toast working again, I did archive and install, a reload of my original OS and everything else.
Still getting all the extras and plug ins, like Patch Burn added, 2 weeks later:( There is now a downgrade for everything below 7.1.1, inclusive, which I should have waited for.

Perhaps I'll figure out how to run "Sandbox" which is the Super Duper Backup feature that allows one to run major Apple updates on a partioned drive, and test for bugs, without commiting the update to the main hardrive.
After running into this QT problem and no way to downgrade, the value of "Sandbox" suddenly became obvious. Sure Sandbox will take some time and probably break something new, I'll never test for, but getting rid of an installed, buggy Apple update can can be a huge pain in the butt!
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Dave

redAPPLE
Jun 29, 2006, 02:42 AM
File size is 51.4MB, Update went smooth, opened quicktime, and it opened so everything is happy.

could somebody please check if safari runs smoother now? :o

JFreak
Jun 29, 2006, 03:05 AM
I'm now afraid of Quicktime updates

Same here. Protools workstations really dislike the 7.1.1 upgrade; that is a very clear indication of a bad QT release if previously smooth systems give beachballs after the QT upgrade...

lonepilgrim
Jun 29, 2006, 07:05 AM
Thats a big update size for a small fix.
When an update is installed, does it always add code or can it sometimes replace old code?

crap freakboy
Jun 29, 2006, 07:32 AM
never a problem...always repair permissions then restart before I update any software. Then repair permissions again, better safe than sorry.

k2k koos
Jun 29, 2006, 10:24 AM
True, not fake, software update does show it.
PAge one pls!

Bob Knob
Jun 29, 2006, 12:14 PM
Same here. Protools workstations really dislike the 7.1.1 upgrade; that is a very clear indication of a bad QT release if previously smooth systems give beachballs after the QT upgrade...

Actually it points out the poor programming on Digidesign's part more then it does with Apple's work. ProTools has been a fragile app since version one (ProDeck and ProEdit)

shamino
Jun 29, 2006, 12:35 PM
Burning Monkey Puzzle Lab (http://www.freeverse.com/bmpl/) is no longer broken.

QT 7.1 broke it (causing it to hang on startup), forcing Freeverse Software to issue a "fix" that involved disabling the background music.

With the 7.1.2 update, it once again works with the music.

And there was much rejoicing.

HGW
Jun 29, 2006, 07:10 PM
a full program download of QT everytime there is an update is what need fixe

JFreak
Jun 30, 2006, 02:48 AM
Actually it points out the poor programming on Digidesign's part

That, too. Why on earth should Protools rely on QT anyway :P

Bob Knob
Jun 30, 2006, 07:19 PM
That, too. Why on earth should Protools rely on QT anyway :P

Virtually all NLE apps use quicktime to play/handle media. There was even a very early NLE that was 100% QuickTime based, it did almost everything the then current version of ProTools could do (at the time I think PT was on version 1.4)

A lot of people don't realize that QuickTime also has an interactive/programmable layer, there has been some very slick stuff built with it over the years.

shamino
Jul 2, 2006, 04:10 PM
A lot of people don't realize that QuickTime also has an interactive/programmable layer, there has been some very slick stuff built with it over the years.
More to the point, QuickTime is Mac OS's multimedia API layer. Any time you write a Mac application using video or audio, it goes through QuickTime.

The visible pieces of QT (the QuickTime Player application and the QT web browser plugin) are fairly simple applications that make use of the QT API layer for all the interesting things they do.

JFreak
Jul 3, 2006, 01:13 AM
Virtually all NLE apps use quicktime to play/handle media. There was even a very early NLE that was 100% QuickTime based, it did almost everything the then current version of ProTools could do (at the time I think PT was on version 1.4)

A lot of people don't realize that QuickTime also has an interactive/programmable layer, there has been some very slick stuff built with it over the years.

Yes, I know. But Protools is cross-platform software and cannot depend on Quicktime which is not pre-installed in Windows systems. Neither can Digidesign rely on Quicktime because they sell (windows-based) embedded systems too.

Quicktime is a powerful framework, but Protools should not stop working whenever Apple makes changes in QT -- and that was just what was happening with QT 7.1.1 update. Don't know what to think; couldn't blame Apple as most apps are working, but couldn't blame Digidesign as their app should not have strong interaction with QT. I'm just sorry to see that QT 7.1.1 crippled Protools 7.1 running on 10.4.6 and I want it fixed pronto :P

VCH
Jul 3, 2006, 10:19 PM
Why did the release notes state that a new QT key would be required? I spent several minutes seraching limewire for a new key, only to discover my old key still worked, or rather Pablo's old key still works.

Eniregnat
Jul 4, 2006, 02:10 AM
Why did the release notes state that a new QT key would be required? I spent several minutes seraching limewire for a new key, only to discover my old key still worked, or rather Pablo's old key still works.

Not a good topic here. I think Pro is worth paying for. It is the foundation engine for OS X media.

The reason for the warrning is for those of us that have paid for older versions of FCP, FCE, or paid for a licence key for Pro before 7, the new version (if we already hadn't updated) would require us to get a new key. All of the Pro apps warn against upgradeing, as it may cause the program to stop working with out a new key. Apple only charges for major revisions, i.e. from 6.x to 7.x.

Now as for piracy- A person, who I thank when ever I can, lent me a key for a few weeks so I could finish a class asignment (Thank you!). Ultimatly I payed for the key, but never boasted about haveing a free version for the 2 week that I did. I worked hard to save for FCP and I was barely making rent at the time. It was still theft, but I also remedied the problem.

Stealing and borrowing keys happens, boasting about it is stupid. You could have omitted the whole Pablos key thing. P2P is cool and has legitimate purposes, don't help generate anti p2p sentiment, or bad PR for the sit. For you own protection, at the very least, don't post about where you get keys.

You kind of remind me of the guy that calls 911 to report his pot has been stolen.

pianojoe
Jul 4, 2006, 05:34 AM
Dangit, I just updated to 7.1.1 yesterday, geesh. I barely use quicktime anyways. Maybe I'll download it later when I don't mind rebooting.

A strange thing to say... No images while web browsing, no music from iTunes, not even a desktop image?

pianojoe
Jul 4, 2006, 05:42 AM
Actually it points out the poor programming on Digidesign's part more then it does with Apple's work. ProTools has been a fragile app since version one (ProDeck and ProEdit)

This is not true. ProTools does a great job embracing QT technology where it is needed for compatibility, and providing better-than-QT where needed. It's not trivial to get these worlds to interface properly. ProTools clearly states hardware and OS requirements for every version of their hard- and software. You're not supposed to install an OS X update or a QT update on a ProTools production machine unless ProTools has approved the update.
If you plan to use a non-Apple graphics card in your computer, check the ProTools web site. They clearly say which ones they have verified to be working, and they won't give you support if you don't comply.
I never had problems with ProTools systems this way.

shamino
Jul 4, 2006, 10:51 AM
Why did the release notes state that a new QT key would be required? I spent several minutes seraching limewire for a new key, only to discover my old key still worked, or rather Pablo's old key still works.
First of all, shame on you for stealing QT Pro keys off of file sharing networks.

Second, new keys are only required for major upgrades (5 to 6, 6 to 7, etc.) Every QT update includes the notice that new keys might be required, because there are still many people using versions 4, 5 and 6.

penter
Jul 14, 2006, 10:22 PM
seriously, idk what else quick time does than play videos. what else can you get by all these upgrades?? what else would you expect from a video-playing application??