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According to AppleInsider, iChat 4.0 (to be included with Mac OS 10.5 "Leopard") will include the capability to call traditional phone lines, much like existing VoIP top-dog Skype and betas from Microsoft and Google.

It should be noted that LoopRumors had previously mentioned this capability as early as March 21st in their fourth installment of information pertaining to Leopard. The site then reiterated its claims on June 21st, claiming that the information was coming from the same sources that gave their rather in-depth preview of Leopard.

We don't know whether AppleInsider's source is one of their more reliable sources, or whether it is a newer source that may be the same as LoopRumors. Going with the assumption, for now, that this is in fact a case of independent confirmation, then LoopRumors' other claims regarding Leopard may be more credible than at first thought.

Highlights of LoopRumors' Leopard Claims
- More transparancy
- Dashboard speed improvements
- Solid metal (iTunes 5+) theme throughout the user interface
- Tabbed iChat and whiteboarding
- Remote control access (VNC-like)
- Finder enhancements, including increased Spotlight integration

LoopRumors has previously been considered unreliable. Amongst the site's proven innacurate claims are that phones created through Apple's Motorola partnership would include light versions of other iApps, and that Apple's 30th birthday would be marked by a 30th anniversary Mac.

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jaxstate

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If you're able to call a landline or a cell phone then it's cool. But if it's just PC to PC then, it's what we've been doing for years.
 

thejadedmonkey

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Bradley W said:
Spotlight and Dashboard were the two major focuses of Tiger... I wonder what will be the new focus of Leopard.
It will be touted as the first release of OS X to have a unified interface :p

So Skype had this for $$, then they do it for free... Is it something that costs money? Will Apple be losing money if they did this? Oh the questions... Will this incorporate the iPhone?
 

zap2

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LoopRumors, not really the best track record, but lots of these thing seem to be logical, and i would like to see it all


And Phone in iChat would be very cool.. and if it was free well it would plan out rock
 

mi5moav

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Kind of ironic that as soon as this news breaks, YAHOO decides it's time to release messenger 3.0!!! Very Strange after like 3 years... I guess Elvis isn't quite dead yet.
 

nagromme

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I can believe it, but I doubt they'll give away long distance for free (as Skype is doing--but only temporarily). VoIP to regular phones will probably be for .Mac users.
 

Object-X

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iPhone

This is the genesis of the iPhone! Apple will integrate this technology into a new iPod; and this x-generation iPod will become the rumored iPhone. I don't see Apple trying to create a product that already exists and has mass appeal; it's just not their style. They always go for something new or a radical re-imagining of something that already exists. In this case, the cell phone. VOIP (with video) and new high speed wireless networks are going to give traditional cell phones providers a run for their money. I think Apple will lead the way with this new technology and use the popularity of their iPod as the basis for it.
 

Stridder44

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I can't wait for the new Finder. Seriously.

The iPhones cool and all but...meh...I already have a phone that, astonishingly, makes calls. Unless it can do something incredible it's not worth it.
 

coolfactor

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This is just the beginning.

I believe the iPhone will double as a VOIP phone. At home, it would seamlessly connect to the base Mac and access additional features. Outside the home, it could connect to standard cell networks or WiFi networks and make VOIP calls. This is how the iPhone will make a difference.

And you can have tabbed iChats today. It's great. Just grab the free Chax enhancements. Causes a bit of a drag at startup of iChat, but adds so many cool features.

http://www.ksuther.com/chax/
 

boncellis

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If these projected "new" features end up as the guts of the Leopard upgrade, then I'll be somewhat disappointed. The unified metal theme and the increased Spotlight functionality were a long time coming, not really anything to crow about, in my opinion.

To me, an iChat overhaul could end up being a true killer app if they add all the compatibility of other services along with making an intuitive VoIP client built in. I think it's in the cards eventually, Looprumors unreliability notwithstanding.
 

zang

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Jan 9, 2005
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ummmmmmmmmmmm...

Remote control access (VNC-like)

Mac OS X already has VNC and Apple Remote Desktop built in.

This rumour smells fishy.
 

amac4me

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Bring it on ... can't wait to see the Leopard preview. This is getting exciting :D
 

hob

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coolfactor said:
This is just the beginning.

I believe the iPhone will double as a VOIP phone. At home, it would seamlessly connect to the base Mac and access additional features. Outside the home, it could connect to standard cell networks or WiFi networks and make VOIP calls. This is how the iPhone will make a difference.

I want that, rather badly.

Bet it'll be something like Skype though OO OOO OOOOOO FREE TO CALLS THE U.S.....

oh great, i know precisely 0 people in the U.S, except Steve Jobs - and my friend Thom Yorke is visiting at the moment... =P

(sorry for my use of capitals, very immature of me, i just hate getting excited about america-centric stuff...)
 

Stella

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Apr 21, 2003
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I want a consistent GUI throughout - none of some plastic, some metal etc.

iChat seems good - but not much incentive for Canadians to use it - since we ( living in Canada ) can dial Canadian / us phones for free ( until at least the end of the year )!

Leopard is going to have some pretty good new functionality.. I'm looking forward to it.
 

lostngone

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First real x86 optimization

We should should see a speed increase on the x86 machines. This will be the first OSX version to have real world optimization for x86. I'm not saying the current releases are not optimized after all they have been porting every release since 10.0. I'm just saying this is the first full release since the x86 systems have been released and they should have knocked out a lot of the bugs.
 

cgc

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mi5moav said:
Kind of ironic that as soon as this news breaks, YAHOO decides it's time to release messenger 3.0!!! Very Strange after like 3 years... I guess Elvis isn't quite dead yet.

Yay, Yahoo IM finally updated to not look and act like a ten year old program!
 

DOUGHNUT

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i think the big thing in this version is gonna be some sort of virtualization technology built in to run Windows and Linux programs (along with a more polished version of Boot Camp)
 

dongmin

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EricNau said:
I'm looking forward to the 'solid metal' interface. The brushed metal was getting old IMO.
I thought 'plastic' was the next big thing, no?
 
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