White DS Photos, and guest!

[raggedjimmi]

Seeing I got the white DS Lite and wanted to frame it's sexyness I took some quick shots. inspired by the black DS lite photos, but can you be inspired by your own work? I tried to emulate some shots from the Black DS series but, well it's harder ok? light didn't work the same. but the shutter speed was so much faster. smiles.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6255.JPG
trying hard to emulate the infamous logo shot.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6257.JPG
death from above.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6260.JPG
turn me up.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6263.JPG
turn me on.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6261.JPG
dpad of desire.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6264.JPG
logo death from above.

special guest! mutton dressed as lamb.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6267.JPG
Hey, gorgeous.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6268.JPG
I'm here.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6269.JPG
Between.

http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6270.JPG
The ugly truth.

[skipsandwichdx]

http://www.postfarm.net/premium/disgruntled/hobombp3.jpg

my two favorite pieces of technology :)

edit: your pictures are better! nice job

[SamIchi]

Reminds me of my MacBook :D . Once I get mine I'll marvel at both thier beauties together.

[2nyRiggz]

Your original DS is still in tip top shape....are you going to keep it or crush it like I see other village idiots do on the net?(not that you are one...just asking:) )


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[raggedjimmi]

Your original DS is still in tip top shape....are you going to keep it or crush it like I see other village idiots do on the net?(not that you are one...just asking:) )


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I think this answers that question.

both here (http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6306.JPG) and here (http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6307.JPG). ;)
be it known I had the NES from ages 4 onwards. I was probably just as bad back then.

[2nyRiggz]

Gezzz...how did I hold that gameboy in my hands when I was young...thats a beast....I thought the Gamegear was huge.


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[smwatson]

I got a sleek sexy bright yellow original Game Boy :D Is the DS touch screen more than just a gimmick :confused:

[raggedjimmi]

the GG is just a tad bigger than the original Gameboy, and a lot heavier (if you're using regular AA batteries). bought a GG off a mate some years ago for £15. he keeps nagging for it back :D

yes. the DS is more than just a gimmick. it's bleedin incredible. isn't it the fastest selling machine ever or something like that?

[mark!]

I got a sleek sexy bright yellow original Game Boy :D Is the DS touch screen more than just a gimmick :confused:

The games made for the DS really do take advantage oof the touch screen. some of the games may not require you actually touch it but it is still useful.

[GonzoRob]

I think this answers that question.

both here (http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6306.JPG) and here (http://satansam.co.uk/ftp/IMG_6307.JPG). ;)
be it known I had the NES from ages 4 onwards. I was probably just as bad back then.
Thats in great condition ..

My dad was in the USA the day the gameboy was released and bought me one. It still works fine.. very gubby though :)

good build quality !!

R

[raggedjimmi]

Thats in great condition ..

My dad was in the USA the day the gameboy was released and bought me one. It still works fine.. very gubby though :)

good build quality !!

R

Oh aye. something Nintendo is known for. I had doubts that with the Cube, with precision laser stuff we'd see more faults. I was worried myself! but it's cool. though my Black DS Lite had faulty buttons, the white one is fine.

[batman123]

The more i see the DS lite, the more i like it! :cool:
The old DS was FUGLY!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Although...despite the design...i still prefer my PSP :D

[crachoar]

Is the DS touch screen more than just a gimmick :confused:

No. It's a gimmick. It's either a map screen or some gimmicky touch feature that doesn't add anything but annoyance to the gameplay.

Don't let the sales hype influence your choices. Just because everybody and their mom wants a DS Lite, doesn't mean anything. If you've forgotten, nobody (in the states at least) really bought into the DS until the Lite came out. If I have to spell it out for you - they bought it because it looks pretty and is cheaper than the PSP. A classic case of 'iPod Syndrome'.

Everybody wants one because of the hype, regardless of how it functions. It's a status symbol. One of those perks of consumerism.

There are maybe three games that make good use of it, or even, total use of it. The rest are just pointless or hard (or awkward) to control (see 'Metroid' - with the stylus especially).

The system was built for 'Castlevania' though (map screen!), so I'm happy. And, apparently, the Sonic game (which uses the two screens to increase the size of the world) is extremely hard and double-sweet. Haven't had a chance to pick it up yet though.

I think the GBA has better games, and that's what I primarily use my DS for. GBA gaming / 'Castlevania'.

I still recommend the DS lite, despite the fact that the vast majority of DS games are uninspired and gimmicky. GBA games are brilliant on this screen (although, there are still some ghosting issues - 'The Minish Cap' looks like tits).

[mark!]

No. It's a gimmick. It's either a map screen or some gimmicky touch feature that doesn't add anything but annoyance to the gameplay.

Don't let the sales hype influence your choices. Just because everybody and their mom wants a DS Lite, doesn't mean anything. If you've forgotten, nobody (in the states at least) really bought into the DS until the Lite came out. If I have to spell it out for you - they bought it because it looks pretty and is cheaper than the PSP. A classic case of 'iPod Syndrome'.

Everybody wants one because of the hype, regardless of how it functions. It's a status symbol. One of those perks of consumerism.

There are maybe three games that make good use of it, or even, total use of it. The rest are just pointless or hard (or awkward) to control (see 'Metroid' - with the stylus especially).

The system was built for 'Castlevania' though (map screen!), so I'm happy. And, apparently, the Sonic game (which uses the two screens to increase the size of the world) is extremely hard and double-sweet. Haven't had a chance to pick it up yet though.

I think the GBA has better games, and that's what I primarily use my DS for. GBA gaming / 'Castlevania'.

I still recommend the DS lite, despite the fact that the vast majority of DS games are uninspired and gimmicky. GBA games are brilliant on this screen (although, there are still some ghosting issues - 'The Minish Cap' looks like tits).

uhm hello? speak for yourself. the original ds was the best selling handheld even though it was ugly. its just the lite is talked about more becase...IT JUST CAME OUT. the ds had a lot talking before it came out...that was a LOOONG time ago. there ARE a lot of games that take advantage of the second screen. if you think it doesnt....dont look at it. it's still worth the full $130. i dont know what you're talking about with the gimmicks...but forseriously the ds is the most original system of any handheld ever made. if anything (...sorry to bring the psp into this) i think the psp is a gimmick. WOoOoOooOOOO it can play music! OMG IT CAN BROWSE THE INTERNET!!!!!!! you konw how hard it is just to browse the internet? if i wanted to play music i'd get an ipod... i dont understand the psp. the whole...thing is overpriced...movies, games, memory card thingys, accessories etc. etc. whatever. rawr. i love my psp & im glad there are 2 screens 'CAUSE I USE THEM. if anyone is wondering about getting a ds lite most stores have them on display...with demos so just check them out. i dont like it when people say people buy stuff 'cause all the hype. i am not one with the crowd :mad:

[raggedjimmi]

I always found that funny, and a great testament to gaming machines not having to look like art to succeed. Here is this DS. It's got a kiddy image, it looks ugly. yet it somehow rose up to be the fastest selling system thus far. World domination it has.

As for the gimmick thing. some games use them for gimmicks, some use them for alternate game controls (Mario, Animal Crossing). AC being very good with the touchscreen, allows for more precise control. Ditto for Hunters. the only way an FPS is going to be done fluidly without dual analogue controls (which I find a pain anyways) or a mouse. It's made for games like Lemmings, or anything that could use a mouse - Sim City, RTS style stuff. But the biggest thing about the screen is the speed of writing. it's not clunky anymore. Yea some games use the screen in a pointless fashion, Nanostray and Mario DS. But they are utterly fantastic gameplay ridden games anyway. you sort of don't notice, or like me, don't care.

think of it as an accessory. It's not used in every game. it doesn't need to be. but I'm glad its there for portable FPS.

[crachoar]

uhm hello?

Hi!


Well, you're both wrong about the DS being huge before the Lite. Not in the US at least. Hardly anybody cared. It sold, and it may have sold more than the PSP, but it wasn't nearly as popular as the Lite is now.

In most cases, people (again, in the US at least) are just now showing interest in the DS because of the Lite.

And it's not because of the games. It's because the DS Lite looks like an iPod and it's cheap.


And yeah, I'm pretty sure the 'Gameboy' is still the best selling console ever.

I don't even think a Nintendo fanboy could argue that one...

[GFLPraxis]

Is the DS touch screen more than just a gimmick :confused:

Yup, it works quite well- some games use it as a map and touchpad input (in Metroid Prime Hunters, for example, the screen shows a map, and you use it like you would a laptop's touch pad to control your aiming). Others use it a bit more gimmicky (like the virtual analog stick in Super Mario 64 DS), but some really come through (the entire game is played entirely using the touch screen for some games like WarioWare Touched!, Kirby's Canvas Curse, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, StarFox DS, etc).

Then some games don't force the use of the touchscreen and don't use it at all, but still make good use of the second screen (see New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Tetris DS).

[mark!]

Hi!


Well, you're both wrong about the DS being huge before the Lite. Not in the US at least. Hardly anybody cared. It sold, and it may have sold more than the PSP, but it wasn't nearly as popular as the Lite is now.

In most cases, people (again, in the US at least) are just now showing interest in the DS because of the Lite.

And it's not because of the games. It's because the DS Lite looks like an iPod and it's cheap.


And yeah, I'm pretty sure the 'Gameboy' is still the best selling console ever.

I don't even think a Nintendo fanboy could argue that one...

ds lite is cheap?
i heard a lot of hype about the ds when it came out. i didnt get it because i knew nintendo was coming out with another ds before a whole other system came along. & YES im in the US. i think there is so much hype about the DS lite beecause it fixed all the problems that was wrong with the original ds.

[2nyRiggz]

ds lite is cheap?
i heard a lot of hype about the ds when it came out. i didnt get it because i knew nintendo was coming out with another ds before a whole other system came along. & YES im in the US. i think there is so much hype about the DS lite beecause it fixed all the problems that was wrong with the original ds.

Yea...don't worry you will say same when the DS lite sp comes out:) ...dude to the top has a point about the DS lite bringing people in not the bulky DS. The machine is really starting to take off now and this time next year the lite sp will be out then world domination will start;)


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[mark!]

you mean ds micro?

[raggedjimmi]

The DS Lite launch period has outpaced the GBA SP launch period. allegedly.

Honestly I don't know how the Lite can be improved in such a way it renders a new model. the only improvements I can think of would be better speakers, stronger WiFi connectivity and a longer battery life (everything needs this). It can't be made smaller. I think the DS Lite will be the last one now for a very long time. It's near perfect.

[jdechko]

Jimmi, you should definitely do some shots of the gameboy... I'd love to see those. :D Actually, you should do some shots of all three systems that compare them to each other.

In other news, I believe that at the end of this month, I'll have enough funds to buy a new DS lite (with NSMB I hope).

[raggedjimmi]

Jimmi, you should definitely do some shots of the gameboy... I'd love to see those. :D Actually, you should do some shots of all three systems that compare them to each other.

In other news, I believe that at the end of this month, I'll have enough funds to buy a new DS lite (with NSMB I hope).

Funny you should say that, when I woke up I decided to go on a photographic adventure today. I'll definitely do some more shots later.

A little OT but has anyone noticed the similarities between the Wii and the NES? It's not like the NES2 or anything but if you look at both you can see they fall from the same tree.

[Piarco]

So no remorse over the switch from black to white? I just want to be sure before I do it! Not worried about getting the money for the black DS back - because I know I will looking at ebay. Plus I can make use of Games DS Lite plus 1 game for £109 offer. Looks like I'll be getting Mario Kart quicker than planned! Total Games: MP: Hunters, Super Mario Bros, Brain Training, Worms and now, more than likely, Mario Kart.
Sweet.

One other switch specific question... what happens to your savegames?

[raggedjimmi]

nothing, they're saved onto the DS cartridges. but. if you have any WiFi settings you need to transfer them over, you lose your friend code if you don't transfer. So you'd need to buy your White DS before selling the Black :o I used my old DS as a storage for my WiFi settings when I went from Black to White. no remorse. feels like you can play the white one "better" because you're not worrying about fingerprints.

[HiRez]

Honestly I don't know how the Lite can be improved in such a way it renders a new model. the only improvements I can think of would be better speakers, stronger WiFi connectivity and a longer battery life (everything needs this). It can't be made smaller. I think the DS Lite will be the last one now for a very long time. It's near perfect.I can think of some:

-- Build the browser into the firmware with a small amount of user flash RAM for storing documents (perhaps 32 MB or so, that's dirt-cheap nowadays). Make it support Flash. With the graphical prowess of the GBA I find it hard to believe it's incapable of handling Flash, more and more sites everyday are requiring Flash to even be accessed or usable.

-- Built-in PDF viewing application (maybe in the browser).

-- Allow user to toggle back and forth between the current game and any built-in application (web browser, pictochat, etc.). You shouldn't have to remove the game(s) and reboot to access internal functions like alarm clock.

-- Support WPA encryption (you mentioned better connectivity but specifically...). This is very important, especially for using the browser in as many places as possible. Even if games can't support it for speed issues, the browser could use it.

-- Make Pictochat internet-enabled, perhaps with Nintendo-themed avatars, and make it compatible with standards like AIM and ICQ.

-- Dedicated screen brightness button a la the GBA. I need the full brightness when I'm outside, but inside it looks good at a lower brightness and saves battery, but changing the brightness is a multistep process right now and is not designed to be done quickly.

-- Make it smaller. I disagree with you here, I think it could be made slightly smaller, particularly in width. While the Lite is nice, it still doesn't quite qualify as "pocket-sized" in my book.

-- Make the travel of the volume-slider larger. It's very hard for me to set a certain level because it's so small (short). Also maybe detent the volume slider or place it inside the case so it doesn't get messed up when not in use.

-- Make the charging unit such that its own cord can be neatly wrapped around itself and the end clipped away, like Apple's chargers.

-- Built-in rumble (with the option for the user to globally disable it), and built-in tilt and acceleration sensing. Someone will find some interesting uses for these in games.

-- (Not part of the unit but I want this anyway) Make an insert for the GBA cartridge slot that holds several DS games. That way I don't have to have them rattling around separately. As it is now, it doesn't quite work. The slot is tall enough for two DS games, not quite wide enough for two, and not deep enough because of the board contacts sticking out. Since I never play GBA games, this is just wasted space.

[crachoar]

Don't worry, there will be another DS next year.


The catch?

It'll have all of those features suggested, but it won't have GBA compatability.

Don't get me wrong - it will have the GBA slot. It just, somehow, won't be able to accept GBA games.

It'll be like the Micro slot, and how it can't accept GB games - only - it'll be a GBA slot that can't accept GBA games. It will only accept GBA port accessories.


I mean, they could very well release it without a GBA slot all-together...but...

I'm hoping they do it this way, because it'll be in hilarious Nintendo fashion.

[raggedjimmi]

You do know that for GB legacy support an extra GBC chip/CPU is required, right? and have you seen inside the GB micro? theres no possible way they could have stuck one in there, otherwise they'd have to use emulation for legacy support. buggy, buggy emulation. though I've no idea why they didn't include GBC chip inside the DS fat at least.

[crachoar]

I know. It doesn't have to make sense, Jim. That's the point.

That's why it'll be funny. In a Nintendo kinda way.

[Piarco]

nothing, they're saved onto the DS cartridges. but. if you have any WiFi settings you need to transfer them over, you lose your friend code if you don't transfer. So you'd need to buy your White DS before selling the Black :o I used my old DS as a storage for my WiFi settings when I went from Black to White. no remorse. feels like you can play the white one "better" because you're not worrying about fingerprints.

Sweet. Its weird the psychology of the cleansliness of the console, but I totally agree!
White will be purchased tomorrow :D

[coffey7]

that looks like something apple would make.cool.

[crachoar]

Where's that guy that told me I was wrong about people wanting the DS suddenly because of the Lite's looks (similar to iPods)?

Sweet. Its weird the psychology of the cleansliness of the console, but I totally agree!
White will be purchased tomorrow :D

Thanks.

that looks like something apple would make.cool.

Thank you as well.

[Piarco]

Where's that guy that told me I was wrong about people wanting the DS suddenly because of the Lite's looks (similar to iPods)?
Thank you as well.

Looks are only part of the equation. In fact it rolls up in 6th place for me before you start dishing out vanity inferences:

1) Gameplay. In the 4 days I've had the DS Lite I've played it a hell of a lot more than the PSP I owned. The games just are more, well, moreish than those offered by the PSP.
2) Game cost. I haven't yet paid over £20 for a DS game.]
3) Opera (when it rolls out). The touch screen makes the DS a far more efficient method of wirelessly surfing the web than that offered in the PSP. If the PSP2 has a touch screen, it'd be a equally impressive - particularly because of the big screen.
4) I'm getting a Wii. The DS acts as a controller in certain games.
5) People genuinely seem to be taking the DS lite to their hearts, and the thread here on MR about the DS Lite did pursuade me to give it a go...
6) It happens to be cool & quirky & retro all at the same time.

[2nyRiggz]

3) Opera (when it rolls out). The touch screen makes the DS a far more efficient method of wirelessly surfing the web than that offered in the PSP. If the PSP2 has a touch screen, it'd be a equally impressive - particularly because of the big screen.


If sony add a touch screen to the PSP2(or whatever) thats just a rip off...they would have to come with something better than this.


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[jdechko]

HiRez, I think you have some excellent suggestions that would be fairly feasable to implement. But I think that there are a few things that just wouldn't work out...

The rumble/tilt thing is a good idea, but I have a feeling that there just wouldn't be enough room to put it in. (though I'm not sure how big the components would have to be). I'm sure the insides of the DS lite are pretty well packed-in right now. I also think that adding it would have a negative impact on the battery life. Anyway, there already is a rumble pack for the ds (fits in the DS slot) and they'd just have to add tilt/accel to it. (BTW, they're making a smaller one to fit the lite).

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ds/buy-ds-rumble-pack-as-stand-alone-158534.php

I'd really just like to see them do away with the GBA slot and put a SD slot in there and release an official GBA->SD ripper (though they wouldn't because of the rampant ensuing piracy, but it's just a thought).

[17luv]

I never thought about it till someone mentioned the Apple connection but my pearl ds lite does look good with my white ipod! Both are great for on the go with the long battery life :)

[raggedjimmi]

Ive no idea about this white DS Lite=iPod thing the US has. but in the UK there seemingly have been more black Lites sold. I tried to replace mine but they ran out of black, plenty of white though.

No matter what other item it looked like, make something pretty and it will sell better. it's not the mentality i use, or the millions who bought a DS before the Lite, or better still AFTER the Lite was announced. i know a whole load of people who put off buying a DS until the Lite hit. they're now very happy borrowing my games. my pride and joys.

Does the fact it looks like an iPod make (or made) the eMac sell any better? What about the white PSP? nope. on launch day I contemplated buying a white PSP in store, they had plenty in stock. hmms.

[bobber205]

What a sexy machine. Ouch!;)

[Tom B.]

It's funny how Nintendo are trying to broaden the range of people that play games consoles with the DS and Wii, but Sony seem to be trying to do the opposite with sexist and racist adverts for the PSP.
Look at these:
(http://www2.cex.co.uk/cex_feature.asp?id=8195&ct=1)
(http://www2.cex.co.uk/cex_feature.asp?id=8263&ct=1)

[iShane]

Wow those pictures are really good! I'm still holding out for an Ice Blue one in the US though.

[bobber205]

It's funny how Nintendo are trying to broaden the range of people that play games consoles with the DS and Wii, but Sony seem to be trying to do the opposite with sexist and racist adverts for the PSP.
Look at these:
(http://www2.cex.co.uk/cex_feature.asp?id=8195&ct=1)
(http://www2.cex.co.uk/cex_feature.asp?id=8263&ct=1)

We may see the death of song as an industry leader yet... :D :D :D

[MacRumorUser]

Anyone else notice how similar the white DS packaging is to the white macbook packaging..


Oh i repsomse to last poster. Yes those PSP adverts are very dodgy.

http://www2.cex.co.uk/images/article/8263.jpg

What next? PSP = KKK ? Iditos at Sony

[crachoar]

Does the fact it looks like an iPod make (or made) the eMac sell any better?

Yes. Smash-up analogy.

P.O.S. 'budget' computer with a massive CRT monitor and well-known hardware problems vs. sleek LCD-based hardware, roughly the same size as the culture icon - the iPod.

You're proving all kinds of points, son!


Face the facts. Regardless of gameplay, your opinion on the system or the supposed innovation of having two screens - the majority of people (now) want a DS Lite now because of the looks.

I'm not sure why anyone is trying to fight me on this, considering I'm not saying that the games are terrible (although, certainly, the system is not on par with the GBA). I'm merely stating, the recent (mass-)interest in the DS happened because of the added 'sex' to the system - not because of the games.

It's not a terrible thing. It's just an observation.


Nintendo certainly knows how to make money. That's for sure.

[GFLPraxis]

Don't worry, there will be another DS next year.


The catch?

It'll have all of those features suggested, but it won't have GBA compatability.

Don't get me wrong - it will have the GBA slot. It just, somehow, won't be able to accept GBA games.

It'll be like the Micro slot, and how it can't accept GB games - only - it'll be a GBA slot that can't accept GBA games. It will only accept GBA port accessories.


I mean, they could very well release it without a GBA slot all-together...but...

I'm hoping they do it this way, because it'll be in hilarious Nintendo fashion.

They removed the extra processor for the GB Micro. There's no way they could remove the extra processor on the DS because most games actually use it.

[raggedjimmi]

Yes. Smash-up analogy.

P.O.S. 'budget' computer with a massive CRT monitor and well-known hardware problems vs. sleek LCD-based hardware, roughly the same size as the culture icon - the iPod.

You're proving all kinds of points, son!


Face the facts. Regardless of gameplay, your opinion on the system or the supposed innovation of having two screens - the majority of people (now) want a DS Lite now because of the looks.

I'm not sure why anyone is trying to fight me on this, considering I'm not saying that the games are terrible (although, certainly, the system is not on par with the GBA). I'm merely stating, the recent (mass-)interest in the DS happened because of the added 'sex' to the system - not because of the games.

It's not a terrible thing. It's just an observation.


Nintendo certainly knows how to make money. That's for sure.

um, my original statement was that the DS sold very, very well without it looking like an iPod. how is that fighting? :confused: it's still selling as it always has done. Japan saw a huge boost in sales but everywhere else its the same old same old.

[crachoar]

They removed the extra processor for the GB Micro. There's no way they could remove the extra processor on the DS because most games actually use it.

No, see, the joke was - they wouldn't remove the processor. They'd just cripple the system to be funny.


um, my original statement was that the DS sold very, very well without it looking like an iPod.

Ok.

[e²Studios]

Wow those pictures are really good! I'm still holding out for an Ice Blue one in the US though.

You're gonna be waiting for a long time, i doubt the US shores will ever see either the dark blue or ice blue colors. The only reason i have one is a friend from Japan sent me one as a gift :D

Ed