Poll: Will you use an Apple Music Service at $.99/download? [Archive]

synthetickittie

Mar 4, 2003, 10:12 AM

if they some how get the music I like and Im assumming they're going to have good qualty on the songs anyway... but ya if and only if they have the music I like which is mostly a lot of underground stuff (mostly not major labels) then I'll use it. But yet I see realy cant see this working, I could end up being completely wrong but still I dont care if they have all the major labels on this I still dont see it working and them making much money off of it if any at all.

MorganX

Mar 4, 2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by synthetickittie
if they some how get the music I like and Im assumming they're going to have good qualty on the songs anyway... but ya if and only if they have the music I like which is mostly a lot of underground stuff (mostly not major labels) then I'll use it. But yet I see realy cant see this working, I could end up being completely wrong but still I dont care if they have all the major labels on this I still dont see it working and them making much money off of it if any at all.

It's been a long time since I bought an Album I was satisfied with. I'd much rather buy singles. .99 seems about right after you remove all the manufacturing costs. This is probably the best way for the music industry to survive the digital age - this and the revival of real artists.

Bear

Mar 4, 2003, 10:28 AM

For me, it's most likely a no. Most of the CDs I buy these days seem to come from small labels.

And those that don't, there is rarely songs I don't like on the CD.

Ambrose Chapel

Mar 4, 2003, 10:33 AM

Maybe...it depends on what I can do with the file after I purchase it. If I can't burn it, transfer it to iPod or other computer, then no. But I might - it could be useful to track down random songs that I don't want to spend hours searching for elsewhere...if they have a comprehensive library. As others have said, having access to the latest from TRL isn't going to make me care. Hopefully, "Think Different" will apply to their choice of music as well....

wdlove

Mar 4, 2003, 10:41 AM

I wouldn't be interested in downloading music. My wife has a large collection of CD's Classical & motion picture soundtracks.

AllenPSU

Mar 4, 2003, 10:45 AM

I'll use the service if they have a good selection. This would really be useful if they added some of the harder to get items. It would also be great if they had discounts on 'full albums' or bulk buys. (20 for $15, album for $12, etc.)

yzedf

Mar 4, 2003, 10:52 AM

Yes, if the artists actually get a cut. And then, I would only buy from the lesser known (not top40) artists.

Grassroots or some such thing...

Kid Red

Mar 4, 2003, 10:57 AM

If mp4 is cd quality and thery have songs I want, sure I'd buy some. It only gets bad when you buy a whole album of 18 songs, then drive your ass to the store. MP3s are free but low quality, MP4 @ 99¢ for CD quality, yea, I'll bite.

funkywhat2

Mar 4, 2003, 10:58 AM

If they have decent music, and none of that M$ DRM crap, then yeah. I like burning CDs. Hopefully, only the artists will make major cash off of this.

synthetickittie

Mar 4, 2003, 11:01 AM

exactly.. of the very few bands that I like and are dam mtv bands I never buy their cds.. but I allways allways but the bands I like that dont get much play if any at all and I accually like the music they make a lot better. Put it this way if apple gets the label subburbin noize records to get all their music on thier server IM IN! I have to send away for those records when I buy them because most of the cds of that label I cant get around here only in places in Cali and Im on the complete opposite side, in boston.

jethroted

Mar 4, 2003, 11:08 AM

NEVER!

springscansing

Mar 4, 2003, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
if it's music i'm going to pay for.... then i'd rather have cd quality, along with the liner notes and all that.

plus, i'm guessing they won't have a lot of the music i like...

Ditto. When Apple lets me download experimental noise music from Japan, I'll be on board... if they ship a CD as well.

So no. :)

yzedf

Mar 4, 2003, 01:07 PM

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rainman::|:|

Mar 4, 2003, 01:50 PM

for me, it would be worth $.99 to skip the process of loading a p2p program (or IRCle) and wading through search results to get a well-encoded song (the version i want) from a high-speed server... so yes, as long as i can copy it to CD or iPod, i will.

pnw

timbloom

Mar 4, 2003, 02:20 PM

I had to also say unsure, $0.99 isn't really a money saver, unless I only want one specific song. There will need to be a whole-cd discount of some sort for me to purchase an entire CD at that price point. Also a lot will depend on the bitrate of the songs being offered, I would want a pretty high bitrate if I am going to be purchasing it rather than a CD. AAC is good, but at only a 128 bitrate, it will not look as attractive to me.

Also, the functionality of the service as a whole will affect my decision of "is it worth it?" Apple has great ideas and concepts, so I would expect these to follow their reputation.

bennetsaysargh

Mar 4, 2003, 02:49 PM

i am not sure weather i would do it or not, but like people said, it all depends on what music there is in this service, and then if they lock them somehow, people will find ways to unlock them.
people who have more than one computer will be mad if you can only keep it on 1 computer.
i'm not sure, if it is good, i might do it (even though my parents probably wouldn't let me).

Dont Hurt Me

Mar 4, 2003, 02:58 PM

I will and i expect them to offer some kind of packages to go with this service, discounts or subscriptions or special price on albums etc. Maybe buy a new mac ang get x amount of free songs?

MacFan25

Mar 4, 2003, 03:16 PM

I'm not really sure if I will use an Apple music service or not. $.99 for one song isn't too bad, especially for long songs. I would just have to see if they have the kind of music that I like or not.

shadowfax

Mar 4, 2003, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by springscansing
Ditto. When Apple lets me download experimental noise music from Japan, I'll be on board... if they ship a CD as well.

So no. :)

I thought you were done with this pointless hellhole?:confused:

anyways, i think $.99 per song is WAY steep. for an album, that's like $12-16, same as for a CD in many cases, and you don't get the quality, liner notes, or "complimentary hard copy." i could imagine selling singles for this, but i would buy and DL by the album, in which case this would be a real ripoff. $.50 cents/song would be reasonable, or just $.99 to buy songs individually and some kind of sale for like $8 for an AAC album. otherwise, this is just as overpriced as the RIAA's CDs.

teabgs

Mar 4, 2003, 04:34 PM

I said maybe, because it depends wqhat I can do with it after downloading.

What happens if I have it and my computer crashes? Can I download it again for free? Could I have backed it up on a cd?

Centris 650

Mar 4, 2003, 06:31 PM

Like many of the posts above it depends on...

1) Availability: Will they have the artists I listen to?

2) Versatility: What can I do with it after I down load it?

3) Qulaity: nuff said.

That's pretty much my concerns in order.

AmbitiousLemon

Mar 4, 2003, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
I thought you were done with this pointless hellhole?:confused:

anyways, i think $.99 per song is WAY steep. for an album, that's like $12-16, same as for a CD in many cases, and you don't get the quality, liner notes, or "complimentary hard copy." i could imagine selling singles for this, but i would buy and DL by the album, in which case this would be a real ripoff. $.50 cents/song would be reasonable, or just $.99 to buy songs individually and some kind of sale for like $8 for an AAC album. otherwise, this is just as overpriced as the RIAA's CDs.

agreed. the price is ridiculous. why pay for the electronic file when i can buy the complete album for less? just more proof that the record industry is too greedy for their own good.

i really like the concept. it is totally something i could see myself using, but only if the price was more reasonable. offer a full album discount or something. offer cover art and lyrics. offer the ability to redownload the same file whenever you want for free.

but just a flat fee of $1 per song doesn't work for me.

Nipsy

Mar 4, 2003, 07:10 PM

I'd gladly pay....however, I'm certain that the 30-40 songs I cannot find (via P2P, record stores, etc.) will not be available.

mymemory

Mar 4, 2003, 07:10 PM

If I find what I like yes!

I really do not like to waist time looking for music in the internet, specially when I'm not listening so much right now. I may DL may be 20 songs per year or may be more if there is a good selection.

ibookin'

Mar 4, 2003, 07:19 PM

I would use the service, because the downloads would be a lot faster than either going to the record store or downloading the song off Limewire, KDX Server, Hotline, etc.

Plus, it would be legal!

shadowfax

Mar 4, 2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon i really like the concept. it is totally something i could see myself using, but only if the price was more reasonable. offer a full album discount or something. offer cover art and lyrics. offer the ability to redownload the same file whenever you want for free.

exactly. this was my first reaction--what a great idea to counter all that P2P junk. i think the album-only idea was just too much for a lot of people, especially pop listeners who are only interested in 2 or 3 songs on an album. i listen to music, though, that works best with a whole album, like Radiohead, or Sparklehorse, or The Dismemberment plan. these albums would cost $10-14 dollars, looking at the ones i own. definitely way too much. high quality tifs of the album art for album purchasers would be way cool, AL!

it will be interesting, though, to see who goes for this. it looks like it will have a good deal of popular support as it is, which is kinda uncool, as it hurts my hopes for improvement :(. oh well. if they have sales and stuff, i'll be going for that.

medea

Mar 4, 2003, 07:48 PM

I don't listen to much popular music, so no I doubt I'll be buying music from Apple.

applefan

Mar 4, 2003, 08:39 PM

if the majority of respondents use p to p services and the results of this poll holds true for all p to p users and apples music service is available to non mac users and users can get the music they want, then this represents a huge new revenue streem to apple, record cos, and artists.

scem0

Mar 4, 2003, 08:52 PM

as long as I can get the songs for free...... no.

arn

Mar 4, 2003, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by scem0
as long as I can get the songs for free...... no.

This reminds me of an old comment about Linux being free..

"It's only free if your time isn't worth anything"

Depending on how long it takes for you to find files etc.... $0.99 for a song you really want isn't that big a deal.

arn

e-coli

Mar 4, 2003, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
...and you don't get the quality

AAC is indiscernable from the original recording.

iJon

Mar 4, 2003, 09:00 PM

i think i remember reading on someone elses post that the songs would have a lock on the, so they couldnt be played on any other computer. but then once you burned them the lock would be removed.i would really like to see a discounted price for .mac users. 79 and below would be nice, but im not expecting it.

iJon

shadowfax

Mar 4, 2003, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by e-coli
AAC is indiscernable from the original recording.

that's what they said about mp3 at reasonably high bitrates. does it have all the info that a CD does (i honestly don't know)?

scem0

Mar 4, 2003, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax
that's what they said about mp3 at reasonably high bitrates. does it have all the info that a CD does (i honestly don't know)?

I think mp3s are indiscernable from CDs at high rates, but then
again, I barely ever listen to CDs that aren't burned :p :p .

iJon

Mar 4, 2003, 10:40 PM

does anybody know about taxes that may occur. the iphoto books come with tax, but thats because they are actually shipping something to you. anyone care to elaborate on this.

iJon

shadowfax

Mar 4, 2003, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by iJon
does anybody know about taxes that may occur. the iphoto books come with tax, but thats because they are actually shipping something to you. anyone care to elaborate on this.

iJon

I'll bet it will be, as everything else you buy from the apple store is. i can't imagine they wouldn't tax just beause it's intellectual property only, but i guess weirder things have happened. but i thought the way you got out of taxes on the net was the interstate commerce thing, and apple is an entity of sorts in every state, as a national (international?) corporation, right?

york2600

Mar 5, 2003, 12:31 AM

I buy music online right now. It costs like $11 for a CD plus 3-4 for shipping. I usually buy 4-5 at a time to cut down on the shipping costs. A lot of these CDs are from emo/indie groups that often put 18 tracks on a CD. It just doesn't add up to remove a lot of the cost of the CD production which is the physical media and distribution and then charge more than I can get a real CD for. I don't see this as Apple's fault. It's the record companies that fail to realize is. $.99 is a great price if you want to buy 3 songs off a CD. People that buy pop CDs often just want the few singles per album, but I don't listen to pop music. I want the whole CD and it seems like it would be smart for them to offer a price for a single track and a price for the whole CD (say $5-$7). That would be reasonable as I'm not getting an actual CD, perfect CD sound (I don't care, but some people do), and the booklet. Hopefully this is incorporated into Apple's system. We'll just have to wait and see though.

hesdeadjim

Mar 5, 2003, 01:36 AM

The answer to this question is I have to wait to see how its implemented. This sounds like a great way to download a few songs off a CD, but for bands I really like, I will probably go out and buy the full CD, like Radiohead. Also, it would really get rid of the guilt I feel from the occasional downloading I will do. Before all of you get all high and mighty on me, I just feel guilty not paying for what hard-working people put a lot of effort into.

shadowfax

Mar 5, 2003, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by hesdeadjim
The answer to this question is I have to wait to see how its implemented. This sounds like a great way to download a few songs off a CD, but for bands I really like, I will probably go out and buy the full CD, like Radiohead. Also, it would really get rid of the guilt I feel from the occasional downloading I will do. Before all of you get all high and mighty on me, I just feel guilty not paying for what hard-working people put a lot of effort into.

i think i feel basically the same way. it will be nice for those one-song not-so-fab bands, but ones like radiohead, you have to get the album, the real thing, something you can put in a physical library. i bought all radiohead's albums (except pablo honey, but i bought "I might be wrong-live recordings" instead) in a single day :D.

don't worry. we'll get high and mighty on scem0 before we go after you ;)

nice name, by the way.