hmmmm Moderators...

[Mazzone]

Why did the geek thread get moved to wasteland after we agreed to let it die out?!?!?!!??!?!?!

[wdlove]

I think it probably was for the best. Dukestreet siad that no one would loose any on their post count. It's best to move on to other threads, be happy! :)

[Mazzone]

Originally posted by wdlove
I think it probably was for the best. Dukestreet siad that no one would loose any on their post count. It's best to move on to other threads, be happy! :)

I lost every post i posted in there... Notice my newbie status.

[arn]

actually wasteland counts don't count towards postcount.

arn

[ibookin']

Originally posted by wdlove
I think it probably was for the best. Dukestreet siad that no one would loose any on their post count. It's best to move on to other threads, be happy! :)

All I have to say is:

Go check your post count.

I have PMed duke about this and have not recieved a reply yet, but it seems as though everyone who posted in that thread lost the number of posts they put in there.

[Mazzone]

Originally posted by arn
actually wasteland counts don't count towards postcount.

arn

We were tricked, not cool.

[scem0]

They are just posts. In 5 years will you care? In 1 year will you care? :confused: .

Just dont worry about it. It's just a thread. ;)

[MacFan25]

I lost some posts too. But I dont really care. It was a good thread, but it was time for it to go. It will always be remembered. :D

[Mazzone]

Originally posted by scem0
They are just posts. In 5 years will you care? In 1 year will you care? :confused: .

Just dont worry about it. It's just a thread. ;)

I just don't see the logic in taking it away in the first place. At times there was actually discussion in there. Plus this is a comunity thread, meaning an open chat. As long as nobody was getting offended i don't see the validity in taking it away. But eh, you're right, just move on :(

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by scem0
They are just posts. In 5 years will you care? In 1 year will you care? :confused: .

Just dont worry about it. It's just a thread. ;)

i seem to remember an interesting ascension to 6502 at your end ;)

[scem0]

I only got like 50 posts (maybe 75 ;)) from that thread. Poor
ubergeek and vniow though... I really could care less though,
because I know that I won't even remember this thread 3 months
from now.

but I think a healthy alternative would be putting it back in
community discussion but not allowing posts.

[arn]

actually, I moved to wasteland due to too many complaints about spam.

It's a fine line. Discussion vs spam -- especially in the community section.

There are two ways to look at it... The big question is always... what's the harm? And there's a range.

If there are one-line useless posts strewn into the news discussion articles just to increase post counts... when what's the harm? Well, more and more people would end up doing it... making the news discussion useless.

If they are in their own thread? Well, less harm... since it's at least contained... but then you start encouraging more of these threads and longer threads like this.... with people posting, not because of the discussion, but to see how long a thread they can get, or how many posts they can accumlate. Again, enough of them happen, it encourages it.

For the community forum, generally, any discussion is allowed... even if it goes off-topic. What is not allowed in any forum is "spam" - posting just to post.

arn

[ibookin']

Originally posted by scem0
I only got like 50 posts (maybe 75 ;)) from that thread. Poor
ubergeek and vniow though... I really could care less though,
because I know that I won't even remember this thread 3 months
from now.

but I think a healthy alternative would be putting it back in
community discussion but not allowing posts.

I got 209 from that thread. I was almost to an avatar, too...:(

I would like to see it closed instead of put in the wasteland, too. Some of those posts were meaningful... a very small percentage, though.

[scem0]

well, im sure some people were just posting to boost their post
count, but I was posting to get to know the community better.
Yes, it comes off as spam, but I felt like I was connecting to some
people on my favorite web site. The reason I don't care whether
the thread gets deleted or not is because I got that connection,
and the post count never even really mattered. I got what I
wanted from that thread, and it doesn't really matter where it is
now. It was a good thread though ;) .

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by scem0
They are just posts. In 5 years will you care? In 1 year will you care? :confused: .

Just dont worry about it. It's just a thread. ;)

very mature attitude. i'm so proud. ;)

[scem0]

Originally posted by ibookin'@mwny
I got 209 from that thread. I was almost to an avatar, too...:(

I would like to see it closed instead of put in the wasteland, too. Some of those posts were meaningful... a very small percentage, though.

my view is that they were all meaningful, but that doesn't mean
they should be added to the post count. I just wouldnt worry
about post count. That is like worrying about money, you will
never have enough. Just post in threads you want to post in,
with what you want to say (unless it is very inappropriate :D),
and eventually you will have your avatar and your post count,
but you will see the futility in obsessing over them.

[Kwyjibo]

if i were to spam, that was the easiest thread to spam in... i'm just saying. I don't think u guys should lose all your post I mean you spent alot of time there and so long as the rules are the same for everyone I agree with them Also Its just a bunch of posts and people liek uBergeek who got 500 posts from tht thread were a bit in excess imo.

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by scem0
but I think a healthy alternative would be putting it back in community discussion but not allowing posts. C'mon scem0, remember your clone got the "guest treatment" for spamming 7 times.

The top 10 people contributed 2100+ posts to this thread alone, not to mention all the spillover posts in other threads people made talking about it.

And the off-topic posts passed way over the family-friendly line. :eek:

[howard]

i'm on arn's and my personal hero scem0's side

both of them know what there talking about. seriously..its just a thread, no big deal. and i agree with arn that it just kinda encourages useless posts and usless threads...and when most of macrumors isn't into a certain thread and it takes up the top position in the community forum then thats kinda unfair.

[scem0]

Originally posted by Sun Baked
C'mon scem0, remember your clone got the "guest treatment" for spamming 7 times.

The top 10 people contributed 2100+ posts to this thread alone, not to mention all the spillover posts in other threads people made talking about it.

And the off-topic posts passed way over the family-friendly line. :eek:

so that's what happened to him. Or her. I was wondering. ;) :D

well, it looks like it will be staying in the wasteland. It was a good
thread that had its moments, but it is still just a thread... :o

one with a lot of sex in it.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :D :D

[MacFan25]

its back in the community discussion, but its closed.

I think that its a good idea to close it. There was spamming on it, and it had run its course.

[MrMacMan]

*yay I lost 3 post* -Good going arn, it was spam

*boo, I gained my 3 posts back* - err as I think ibooking said 'Some of those posts were meaningful... a very small percentage, though.'

I mean next time you *NEED* posts go and topic hunt and help somebody out in need in the help fourm.

Bah, Let the flames come. I don't need the 3 posts. I mean whoever got over 100 posts in the thread should have been taken. I think any real discussion was lost and long time ago in that thread.

[Mr. Anderson]

Somehow I managed to loose 40 posts - all that trying to convince the spammers to relax......next time, no warning, no need to waste all that time. ;)

D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by dukestreet
Somehow I managed to loose 40 posts - all that trying to convince the spammers to relax......next time, no warning, no need to waste all that time. ;)


"lose". seriously man. only one 'o'

you and backdawg seem to have a problem with that. ;)

no warning's cool. reminds me of "in the name of the father"

[evoluzione]

um, so how many posts are needed to climb up the "scale" to become a "regular" etc. and what's with the numbers...6502 etc???

i notice i'm no longer a newbie, that's gotta be good, i think heh

[GeeYouEye]

I question the closing of this thread. Yes, it was spam-filled, but so what? It was fun! Besides, it would have been far more in character with the thread to just let it die on its own.

Originally posted by evoluzione
um, so how many posts are needed to climb up the "scale" to become a "regular" etc. and what's with the numbers...6502 etc???

i notice i'm no longer a newbie, that's gotta be good, i think heh

To all: That's 6 and counting, that I've seen. I told you all this would keep happening if we got rid of visible post count.

To evoluzione: 300 for regular, 500 for 6502, 1000 for 61586. Worry about those before the higher-ups.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by evoluzione
um, so how many posts are needed to climb up the "scale" to become a "regular" etc. and what's with the numbers...6502 etc???

i notice i'm no longer a newbie, that's gotta be good, i think heh


should be in this thread. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=12457)

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by GeeYouEye
I question the closing of this thread. Yes, it was spam-filled, but so what? It was fun! Besides, it would have been far more in character with the thread to just let it die on its own.

To all: That's 6 and counting, that I've seen. I told you all this would keep happening if we got rid of visible post count.


spam is spam. arn made that clear. it doesn't have a place here.. AND it was spreading to other threads. which is the bigger issue really

how does not seeing how many posts you have affect not knowing what numbers are for each thing? sure, he'd have seen 30 gave him member. but he'd still ask about what it takes for each upgrade....

[vniow]

It was probably for the best, I would have ather seen it just die rather than be closed but whatever.

I don't think anyone who participated in that thread was doing it to soley inrease their post counts or just post for the sake of spamming, it was all in good fun and we never meant to hurt anything or give Macrumors a bad name or whatnot.

And I got kicked out of the top 10 posters, big deal.http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202

I'm perfectly satisfied with being the Spam Queen thank you.http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=257755

BTW, when did the post count of Macrumors double?

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by GeeYouEye
To all: That's 6 and counting, that I've seen. I told you all this would keep happening if we got rid of visible post count.

that doesn't make any sense. if you click profile, you get their count in a hurry. what's the big issue? jelloshotsrule is right. seeing someone with 900 or 700 posts doesn't tell you how many posts make you a 6502.

[Doctor Q]

With the geek thread closed, I am no longer forced to discuss geek theory and report geek news, so I can go back to my normal life looking for people to help in the Mac Help/Questions and Tips forums. Whew!

Actually, I did have a question about pi that I never got a chance to post in the geek thread. It doesn't seem worth a new thread, however. I guess I should find a MathRumors site for such things.

[voicegy]

Jeez. The way you're all going on about a dead old post that got sent to the cornfield you'll be back up on your post counts in no time, then THIS one will head for the cornfield as well!:o

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
should be in this thread. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=12457)


perfect, thanks very much :)

[janey]

dammit i didn't see this thread...until today. :p :rolleyes:
call me stupid.
Well thank you arn for not leaving this in wasteland...made more macrumors history by being the only post to get dumped into wasteland TWICE and live to come back (well not quite).
Most of it was spam but why couldn't you let us continue until we got to 100 pages?
sheesh arn it was just a discussion on spam, posts, and sex...what geeks always talk about :p
well let's go on with our lives...unless of course someone stupid comes along and starts another thread like this :)
as an afterthought:
2288 posts in original thread
30 posts in continuation of thread
33 posts in this thread
100 (estimation) of replies talking about this thread
total posts relating to this thread: 2451
scary...enough to make a MR 68000, 6502, several regulars, several members :p

[arn]

Originally posted by GeeYouEye

all: That's 6 and counting, that I've seen. I told you all this would keep happening if we got rid of visible post count.


As others have said... this question came up before and after the post count went away.

arn

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by übergeek
Most of it was spam but why couldn't you let us continue until we got to 100 pages?
sheesh arn it was just a discussion on spam, posts, and sex...what geeks always talk about

what relevance is there to 100 pages? And spam is as spam does, it doesn't fly here.

As for sex, its still a public site with minors, so there is a responsibility on everyones part to keep things clean.

D

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by dukestreet
its still a public site with minors, so there is a responsibility on everyones part to keep things clean.

she IS a minor :rolleyes: :D

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
she IS a minor :rolleyes: :D

yes, so that makes no difference - I'm 38 - that's just one implication of many on how things can become issues.

We don't need any issues that might cause problems for MacRumors, so its best to just keep things clean, relatively so at least (I'm being realistic here)

D ;)

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by dukestreet
yes, so that makes no difference - I'm 38 - that's just one implication of many on how things can become issues.

We don't need any issues that might cause problems for MacRumors, so its best to just keep things clean, relatively so at least (I'm being realistic here)

D ;)

I wholly agree with you on that fact, though just what "relatively clean" means might be another story, at least to some extent :).

i was just being ironic.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
I wholly agree with you on that fact, though just what "relatively clean" means might be another story, at least to some extent :).

i was just being ironic.

there are sometimes when things are discussed that border on being a problem, but regardless, its not all that bad. The geek thread more than bordered on it though at some points. And what tends to happen is a type of arms race, or post escalation - then you end up having to shut it down when people feed off each other.

D

[Backtothemac]

Post count?

Sorry, but if that is the only reason that someone posts, then there is no point in posting in the first place. Make posts mean something. Follow the rules of the site. Make them intelligent and mean something!

There was way, way, way too many one line "bump" post in there. Why do you think that arn disabled the post counts on the main pages anyway? Too many people were concerned with that. Just post your good posts, and avatars will come. They do not change your life remember that ;)

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Just post your good posts, and avatars will come. They do not change your life remember that ;)

well, this is not totally true...

ever since i've gotten mine, i've been dating several swimsuit models and actresses... at the same time. perhaps it's just "luck"... but i think it's more likely the fact that i have a little picture by my fake name...

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
well, this is not totally true...

ever since i've gotten mine, i've been dating several swimsuit models and actresses... at the same time. perhaps it's just "luck"... but i think it's more likely the fact that i have a little picture by my fake name...

Oh, man you would not believe how I have to beat the women off because of that falling iMac kicking the hell out of that dell.

:)

Swimsuit models? I thought that would have been porn stars. :eek:

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Swimsuit models? I thought that would have been porn stars. :eek:

it was porn stars when i had owen wilson on there... but with daniel day lewis, i get some of the "classier" broads

and yes, they flock.... i put a limit of 8 at any one time though...

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i put a limit of 8 at any one time though...

you should make the limit 12.76 per day on top of (no pun intended) the 8 at a time limit, just like your post average. and then we could make all sorts of odd suggestive jokes about women and posts that duke could get borderline angry about.

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
you should make the limit 12.76 per day on top of (no pun intended) the 8 at a time limit, just like your post average. and then we could make all sorts of odd suggestive jokes about women and posts that duke could get borderline angry about.

Duke was not angry about the geek thread, please, the man is 38 years old and a professional. It is just not appropriate for some of the conversation that was taking place in that thread. If you lost post count there, get over it.

Jello posts good posts 99% of the time. That is more than I can say for a lot of other people around here. Number of posts per day has nothing to do with quality of the post.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
you should make the limit 12.76 per day on top of (no pun intended) the 8 at a time limit, just like your post average. and then we could make all sorts of odd suggestive jokes about women and posts that duke could get borderline angry about.

I'm not angry - haven't really ever been since, mmm, say the travis thread. And that was before I was a mod and had to toe the straight and proper.....

And thanks for backing me there b2tm. Regardless whether its my age or if I'm a professional, its a matter that this is a public site, and arn has set up a policy that as a member everyone is expected to follow. You all complain when we make you adhere to the rules, well tough. :D

If you don't like it, too bad, deal with it.

D

[Backtothemac]

Well said well spoken Duke. I too have to watch some of the stuff here like you used to, and sometimes it is frustrating. I still come down on people even though I am not a mod, but people have to remember that since this is public, and there are minors, that conversations need to keep an appropriate nature.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by dukestreet
I'm not angry - haven't really ever been since, mmm, say the travis thread. And that was before I was a mod and had to toe the straight and proper.....

And thanks for backing me there b2tm. Regardless whether its my age or if I'm a professional, its a matter that this is a public site, and arn has set up a policy that as a member everyone is expected to follow. You all complain when we make you adhere to the rules, well tough. :D

If you don't like it, too bad, deal with it.

D
jeez, people, don't get huffy, let me awaken you to this thing you may know as humor. i never said you were angry, i was making a joke about the "borderline" thing you said earlier about sexual innuendo and crossing the line. i wasn't even implying that you were some kind of prude or you had your head up your arse, i was just making a light joke... i really think you should have inferred this with a great deal of ease from the post by jello i was responding to. sheesh.
Originally posted by Backtothemac
Duke was not angry about the geek thread, please, the man is 38 years old and a professional. It is just not appropriate for some of the conversation that was taking place in that thread. If you lost post count there, get over it.

Jello posts good posts 99% of the time. That is more than I can say for a lot of other people around here. Number of posts per day has nothing to do with quality of the post.
i don't know where this came from AT ALL. what the hell? i was making a joke, again. i wasn't mking a sarcastic remark about how often jello posts per day; i don't care, and i know he is not given to spam. i wasn't implying that at all.

[Mr. Anderson]

Ah, well, sarcasm and jokes are hard to descern sometimes in the written word, you'll need to use more :D,;),:rolleyes:

D ;)

[pantagruel]

Geez what is the problem with these people, arn made it clear that no spam is good spam, so drop it. If you have something to actually say, then post about it, but pointless babbling is not neccesarry and even though it was supposed to be contained into a single thread it has spread all over becaue people get used to it, and its going to cause a lot of actual threads to get closed down.
just grow up already.:rolleyes:

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by übergeek
Most of it was spam but why couldn't you let us continue until we got to 100 pages?100 pages? Sure, here ya go (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20569&perpage=23&pagenumber=100).

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
100 pages? Sure, here ya go (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20569&perpage=23&pagenumber=100).


the left bracket is blurry..


ha. shadow was just following my joke

now, backdawg, should i be pissed you said 99% of my posts are good and claim that less are good and that i am the spam prince or whatever??? that seems to be the way to go these days.

and while more "dangerous", sarcastic, joking posts without any smilies are the best... of course, they can be taken the wrong way. hence the "danger"....

beer me

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by dukestreet
Ah, well, sarcasm and jokes are hard to descern sometimes in the written word, you'll need to use more :D,;),:rolleyes:

D ;)

true. yeah, sorry.;)

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
true. yeah, sorry.;)

that's ok, not a problem.

basically if we all play nice, every body stays happy - except for the guys in the politico forum ;)

D

[wdlove]

Thank you dukestreet! Yes that is the whole point of the Community Discussion thread to share your opinion, have fun, & not to be sarcastic with other members! ;)

[Doctor Q]

I don't think sarcasm is inherently inappropriate in a post, although it is sometimes hard to get across your "tone of voice" with our limited set of facial expressions. :) :( :o :p :cool: :rolleyes: :mad: :eek: :confused:

In offline life, sarcasm is one of my oft-used forms of humor, and humor is a useful tool of discussion, both online and offline, even when working toward a serious purpose.

What is inappropriate in all forums (not just the Community Discussion) is condescension, belittling, personal attacks, patronization, etc. Unnecessariliy mean-spirited posts are the problem, not sarcasm per se.

Those who want to insult each other should start a Monty Python "argument clinic" thread and hold their verbal battles there.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
I don't think sarcasm is inherently inappropriate in a post, although it is sometimes hard to get across your "tone of voice" with our limited set of facial expressions. :) :( :o :p :cool: :rolleyes: :mad: :eek: :confused:


Of course its not - and you have to resort to some sort of indication that you are being sarcastic, or you get taken seriously, which, as we know causes problems.

Oh, and just in case anyones wondering, I deleted the spam post to this thread - you trying to test the system here? Don't.

(notice no use of smilies....)

D

[janey]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
100 pages? Sure, here ya go (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20569&perpage=23&pagenumber=100).
100 pages with 25 replies per page :)
Well i guess the thread was going wild :rolleyes:
i shall miss it a lot
Originally posted by pantagruel
...arn made it clear that no spam is good spam, so drop it. If you have something to actually say, then post about it, but pointless babbling is not neccesarry and even though it was supposed to be contained into a single thread it has spread all over becaue people get used to it, and its going to cause a lot of actual threads to get closed down.
just grow up already.
Okay okay! Why don't you grow up you seem like you're babbling...a lot. Arn did make that loud and clear but your thing about our babbling spreading all over macrumors isn't exactly true most people haven't (or gave up) reading the thread because it was so long.

[janey]

someone tell me why this thread was moved to site news...i almost thought arn moved it to wasteland ;)
but i'm confused...

[arn]

Originally posted by übergeek
someone tell me why this thread was moved to site news...i almost thought arn moved it to wasteland ;)
but i'm confused...

site discussion...

arn

[King Cobra]

[Rant] originally posted by pantagruel
Geez what is the problem with these people, arn made it clear that no spam is good spam...and its going to cause a lot of actual threads to get closed down.
just grow up already.:rolleyes:

Arn has also emphasized that spam posts and offensive/"problem" posts should be reported, rather than addressed in public. Your rant involving anyone to "grow up", as well as the fallacy of "pointless babbling", is precisely the opposite of arn's requests.

Although the geek thread had babbling, not all of it was pointless. Clickie for some examples of pointless threads (or at least attempts of pointless threads).

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20697
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21663