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MacRumors
Jul 18, 2006, 03:48 PM
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According to Think Secret, Apple's second generation iPod Nano could arrive at Steve Jobs' August 7th WWDC Keynote address (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0607ipodnano2.html). The site predominantly echoes previous rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060710111848.shtml) that the new Nano would be available in multiple colors and be made of a more scratch-resistant metal alloy enclosure.

In addition, Think Secret believes that Apple has secured enough 40 and 80 GB hard drives to make a minor revision to its 5G iPod. The timeframe for the revision is not certain, but the site does not expect them at WWDC. A price cut is also seen as possible with component prices dropping dramatically since the 5G's introduction last fall.

To add a little fuel to the fire, one MacRumors source claims that Apple's next iPod will be able to play classic Nintendo games. While MacRumors was not able to verify the claim directly, Apple posted a job listing for an embedded game developer (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/02/20050221164000.shtml) in February 2005 and recent patent filings have depicted an iPod with what appears to be a game-pad interface in place of a scroll-wheel [image mirror (http://guides.macrumors.com/images/3/35/iPod_Game_Controller.jpg)]. According to our source, the games would be playable via a special accessory.

Also mentioned is that Apple is indeed planning to use OLED displays on future iPods in order to maximize battery life. This echoes a previous page 2 rumor (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060712182701.shtml), which has since been countered by Think Secret (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0607ipodbuzz.html).

Digg This (http://digg.com/apple/Next_iPod_To_Play_Classic_Nintendo_Games)

guffman
Jul 18, 2006, 03:49 PM
I'm all for color choices with out scratches!

SteveRichardson
Jul 18, 2006, 03:50 PM
NO FLUFFY PASTELS


NO NO NO NO

NO NO NO


no.

bigandy
Jul 18, 2006, 03:51 PM
not at WWDC. developers, not consumers.

maybe around a week later methinks.

EDIT:
oh, and the game thing, would be cool :rolleyes:

xli_ne
Jul 18, 2006, 03:53 PM
According to our source, the games would be playable via a special accessory.


lame if you have to carry around an accessory to play

puckhead193
Jul 18, 2006, 03:54 PM
eh as long as their not those girly colors...

Tanglewood
Jul 18, 2006, 03:54 PM
More storage, new nanos, nintendo games, longer battery life, price drop, colors, sooner-rather-later release. Sounds all good to me.

runninmac
Jul 18, 2006, 03:54 PM
I would be in love with apple if they brought back the gold pastel.
Oh my old mini's color made me week in the knees!

The Ninitendo games sounds awesome. Not to many controls, it would be bad ass.

AJ Muni
Jul 18, 2006, 03:56 PM
OLED displays on video ipod's?? I dont get it..

GFLPraxis
Jul 18, 2006, 03:56 PM
If Apple opens the iPod up for software developers to make games, it could very well be at WWDC...

bluelovesorange
Jul 18, 2006, 03:56 PM
bigger ipod nano in the same enclosure would be lovely, but nintendo games??? er............. why? (just get a DS)

KindredMAC
Jul 18, 2006, 03:57 PM
but I thought OLED's didn't last as long??????

Funny.... hey everyone, my new 2nd Gen 5th Gen iPod still has a battery life of 24 hours..... but my screen died after 2 months of using it!

OY!

BTW- If you want to play Nintendo games.... buy a Game Boy [insert model name here]. Or wait for the Wii.

Eidorian
Jul 18, 2006, 04:01 PM
I really hope all of this arrives before the Back to School rebate ends. Core 2 Duo iMacs and a new Nano? :D

My debit card is ready.

bluelovesorange
Jul 18, 2006, 04:02 PM
I really hope all of this arrives before the Back to School rebate ends. Core 2 Duo iMacs and a new Nano? :D

My debit card is ready.


i second that :D

Eidorian
Jul 18, 2006, 04:04 PM
i second that :DI can just picture Jobs' keynote and OH YEAH I was on a Core 2 Duo Mac the entire time. NOW SHIPPING.

BlizzardBomb
Jul 18, 2006, 04:07 PM
Game Boy Micro + iPod Nano = A name I can't think of.

The game stuff sounds a bit fishy. Anyway for the Nano and 5G I doubt the revision will be at WWDC, but shortly after.

devilot
Jul 18, 2006, 04:10 PM
I really hope all of this arrives before the Back to School rebate ends. Core 2 Duo iMacs and a new Nano? :D Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last time there was the back-to-school rebate, the current Nano came out but was NOT a qualified purchase for the rebate anyway.

So even if a new Nano came out in time, it probably wouldn't work.

dizastor
Jul 18, 2006, 04:12 PM
NanoBoy-MicroGamePod

Seriously, the addition of games would increase my iPod desire ten fold.

MrCrowbar
Jul 18, 2006, 04:16 PM
If Apple opens the iPod up for software developers to make games, it could very well be at WWDC...

Yeam I told you people. I didn't base my statement on any actual insight knoledge but I can really picture an iPod with some more... software. I mean, you can do pretty much anything with a phone nowadays. I sure hope those new nanos will be in stores as soon as Steve announces them. Gonna be in NYC around that time anyway so I might check out that big Apple cube and get one of those nanos. :)

BlizzardBomb
Jul 18, 2006, 04:16 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last time there was the back-to-school rebate, the current Nano came out but was NOT a qualified purchase for the rebate anyway.

So even if a new Nano came out in time, it probably wouldn't work.

Party pooper :p But yes I'm pretty sure that was the case. :o

Eidorian
Jul 18, 2006, 04:17 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last time there was the back-to-school rebate, the current Nano came out but was NOT a qualified purchase for the rebate anyway.

So even if a new Nano came out in time, it probably wouldn't work.I forget what happened last year. :mad:

devilot
Jul 18, 2006, 04:22 PM
I forget what happened last year. :mad:I found this thread... linky (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=149718&highlight=student+union+nano). Which in turn, will take to you to two relevant threads describing what I have already said. :p Sorry... "No nano for you!"

amateurmacfreak
Jul 18, 2006, 04:24 PM
What can I say, sounds great.
The sooner the better. :D

But the OLED screen thing has me confused... would it be a lot worse/last a shorter time than the current screens?? :confused:

Eidorian
Jul 18, 2006, 04:25 PM
I found this thread... linky (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=149718&highlight=student+union+nano). Which in turn, will take to you to two relevant threads describing what I have already said. :p Sorry... "No nano for you!"I was going to sell it anyways.

amateurmacfreak
Jul 18, 2006, 04:26 PM
Oh, and yeah, that back-to-school rebate almost seems a way to clear out old iPod stock... you know what I mean??

m-dogg
Jul 18, 2006, 04:29 PM
Oh for the love of God Apple, please release an iPod with a capacity greater than 60GB. I'll take 80, though I thought we'd be over 100 by now! I don't care what else you do, just show some love for those of us with big music (and photo or video) collections!!!

iJawn108
Jul 18, 2006, 04:33 PM
They will have to be strong to get me to give my shuffle to my mom and buy one. I listen to it on my way to work while riding my bike. My shuffle gives me hope that if i dropped it(not under the wheels obviously) it would still survive. :p

But this all sounds pretty awsome. I can't wait for WWDC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

p0intblank
Jul 18, 2006, 04:35 PM
New iPod nanos? Eventually, yes. The ability to play Nintendo games on your iPod? I HIGHLY doubt it... come on!

theBB
Jul 18, 2006, 04:49 PM
If these two rumors turn out to be bogus or ThinkSecret later retracts it by claiming "delays due to technical difficulties", I think that'd be pretty much the end of TS. A lot of people keep saying WWDC is just for Macs, so these movie download and new Nanos rumors are very bold.

Teddy's
Jul 18, 2006, 04:49 PM
Girly colours have a market. I would rarely see a girl with a big black ipod video... Although there are. Certainly, it depends on many factors.
Colours are fun too.

mark!
Jul 18, 2006, 04:51 PM
just give me an olive green one, or one like the mini. ill be fine.


and that nintendo stuff would be fine.

can i get the ipod with video for $250 eeducation please? thanks.

Clive At Five
Jul 18, 2006, 05:04 PM
No No No No No.

There will be no nintendo games. Nintendo games require more inputs... Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, start, & select at the very least. The Nano has the multi-directional pad, yes, but only one button. Unless Apple changes the interface on the nano (unlikely), there will be no nintendo games.

Think, people, think!

-Clive

milo
Jul 18, 2006, 05:08 PM
If these two rumors turn out to be bogus or ThinkSecret later retracts it by claiming "delays due to technical difficulties", I think that'd be pretty much the end of TS.

I think TS has been over for a long time. When was the last time they got anything right? (And getting something like a ship date on the fifth try doesn't really count as right)

No No No No No.

There will be no nintendo games. Nintendo games require more inputs... Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, start, & select at the very least. The Nano has the multi-directional pad, yes, but only one button. Unless Apple changes the interface on the nano (unlikely), there will be no nintendo games.

Think, people, think!

-Clive

Did you read the article? They said games would use a peripheral.

amateurmacfreak
Jul 18, 2006, 05:13 PM
Girly colours have a market. I would rarely see a girl with a big black ipod video... Although there are. Certainly, it depends on many factors.

Oooooh, that was cold! :eek:
Eh, not really. I'm the only girl I know with a 30GB black 5G iPod, and I know about a million guys with them.... makes me feel... masculine?? :o Ugh. haha

And what kind of factors? ;)

BrianMojo
Jul 18, 2006, 05:16 PM
I could see Nintendo-like games being a huge possibility. (Remember that someone uncovered 'stacker' and 'simon' in the firmware update...)

McScooby
Jul 18, 2006, 05:19 PM
Girly colours have a market. I would rarely see a girl with a big black ipod video... Although there are. Certainly, it depends on many factors.
Colours are fun too.

You can bet that they'll keep black in the line up with the same spec charged at a higher premium!:rolleyes:

mark!
Jul 18, 2006, 05:19 PM
No No No No No.

There will be no nintendo games. Nintendo games require more inputs... Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, start, & select at the very least. The Nano has the multi-directional pad, yes, but only one button. Unless Apple changes the interface on the nano (unlikely), there will be no nintendo games.

Think, people, think!

-Clive

Menu=jump (A)
select=B
left, before, back=left
right, next=right
down=duck, or down.

tangerineyum
Jul 18, 2006, 05:20 PM
Oooooh, that was cold! :eek:
Eh, not really. I'm the only girl I know with a 30GB black 5G iPod, and I know about a million guys with them.... makes me feel... masculine?? :o Ugh. haha

And what kind of factors? ;)


whoa whoa ! you saying my girlfriend wears the pants? she has the black ipod and i have white. She teases me constantly, but im tough, i can deal.:cool:

nsjoker
Jul 18, 2006, 05:21 PM
i'm calling bs to the nintendo games. you could technically control the games, but the touch sensitivity doesn't offer that good control to make the game fun. maybe something more complex than breakout, but simpler than super mario would work, :cool:

iJawn108
Jul 18, 2006, 05:23 PM
Oooooh, that was cold! :eek:
Eh, not really. I'm the only girl I know with a 30GB black 5G iPod, and I know about a million guys with them.... makes me feel... masculine?? :o Ugh. haha

And what kind of factors? ;)
I've noticed at least with my freinds. The girls have black and the guys(myself included) have/prefer the white. :p

hyperpasta
Jul 18, 2006, 05:24 PM
Aye Caramba. Nintendo? For the love of god, WHY? It doesn't make sense.

amateurmacfreak
Jul 18, 2006, 05:27 PM
I've noticed at least with my freinds. The girls have black and the guys(myself included) have/prefer the white. :p
Haha, that's hilarious. My friends overall prefer black, so... actually it's pretty evenly split among genders... one of my friends of each gender has white.... except for more of the guys have iPods, but... anywayyss.... yeah.

neonart
Jul 18, 2006, 05:34 PM
While I don't see the game thing really happening, I would be ecstatic if it did! There would probably be some little dock connector controller thingy!

It would be out of this world! Super Mario Bro's 2 on my iPod! Woot! I can already see the tiny princess pulling the little radishes out of the ground and flinging them at unsuspecting baddies!

Attached is my poorly made mockup of what would consume alot of my time. :D

mark!
Jul 18, 2006, 05:37 PM
http://static.flickr.com/66/181387817_671bacce84_o.png

EDIT: 1,000 posts! go macrumors! go markkk! w00t! i r teh r0xxxrz!

stunna
Jul 18, 2006, 05:45 PM
eh as long as their not those girly colors...

Why does it matter? choice is good for all. :)

Anyways if these rumors are true, I guess Apple will be joining the gaming business.

macnews
Jul 18, 2006, 06:11 PM
I would hope the ability to play video games would require a new interface, like a whole touch screen display. The default games on the iPod are difficult enough to play with just a click wheel.

If a new iPod is to be announced, I could see this being it. The ability to program games would fit with the theme of a developers conference. Aside from that, I doubt WWDC would be used to just introduce a video iPod. Certainly could be wrong but I doubt it.

ghall
Jul 18, 2006, 06:35 PM
My concept is the best! It's only compatable with the video iPod though because the nanos are to frigging small to play video games on.

MrCrowbar
Jul 18, 2006, 06:42 PM
http://static.flickr.com/66/181387817_671bacce84_o.png

EDIT: 1,000 posts! go macrumors! go markkk! w00t! i r teh r0xxxrz!

Hmmm it's disturbing to see the iPod has similar proportions than those old Game Boys. This mockup is very cool but I highly doubt Apple would release such a thing.

mark!
Jul 18, 2006, 06:51 PM
yeah i dont think they'd put buttons over the clickwheel.

mackiwi
Jul 18, 2006, 06:55 PM
I can really see the new Nvidia chipset being used for nintendo games.

Doesn't the new nintendo machine - Wii - let you download old school nintendo games for a few dollars each?

Sounds like something that will be on a new itunes store.

Electro Funk
Jul 18, 2006, 07:38 PM
lame if you have to carry around an accessory to play

i would rather it need an accessory to play games... i like the simplicity of the iPods... i definately dont want one with a bunch of different colored buttons or a freaky joystick sticking out of it...

ddrueckhammer
Jul 18, 2006, 07:40 PM
New Apple/Nintendo media center/game console next Tuesday!!!:eek:

Dagless
Jul 18, 2006, 08:24 PM
New iPod nanos? Eventually, yes. The ability to play Nintendo games on your iPod? I HIGHLY doubt it... come on!

I doubt it too. though I think by "Nintendo games" they mean Donkey Kong style game & watch vintage games. I can't imagine GBA games on the device or anything past NES, to be honest.

I think doubt is too harsh a word. It's certainly possible from a tech stand point, its just the red tape and Nintendo doing something that Apple never did (license out the true meaning of the companies key product)... but who knows.

Yvan256
Jul 18, 2006, 09:00 PM
If Apple opens the iPod up for software developers to make games, it could very well be at WWDC...

Exactly. And with a really cool easy-to-use "game maker" app, too. Then a "game distribution system" via iTMS. And as far as the interface is concerned, if it's a "true video iPod" with a screen that takes the whole front, it could be touch-screen. Seeing how well Nintendo is doing with the Nintendo DS, Apple could want to follow in the same path (touch-screen games only). :cool:

amateurmacfreak
Jul 18, 2006, 09:07 PM
i would rather it need an accessory to play games... i like the simplicity of the iPods... i definately dont want one with a bunch of different colored buttons or a freaky joystick sticking out of it...
Seconded! I think the sticking out of dock thingy was a good idea, and, really, a good mock-up. :cool:

ezekielrage_99
Jul 18, 2006, 11:44 PM
I'm all for color choices with out scratches!


You can count me in for that as well, a Silver iPod Nano would be nice :cool:

I know my girlfriend is wanting a pink iPod Nano for Xmas......:rolleyes:

Rod76
Jul 19, 2006, 12:59 AM
It would be simple to have a game interface if the whole iPod screen could be used for whatever purpose the interface developers could conceive.

you could design any interface even the original Nintendo controller on the bottom half of the screen and the top would be the game, that way you could maintain the old aspect ratio...

SamIchi
Jul 19, 2006, 01:26 AM
New Nano Wii Connectivity? The Wii release isn't that far off, and it enables people to download NES games on it's virtual console, so it's a good match. I would love to see what the Nano will actually look like.

http://static.zooomr.com/images/6e71d9d48e500bcd5c89dd0c3eae9685cba90b0e.jpg

Something like the MacPod concept would be awesome. Still sleek and simple but still plenty of buttons.

mark!
Jul 19, 2006, 01:35 AM
New Nano Wii Connectivity? The Wii release isn't that far off, and it enables people to download NES games on it's virtual console, so it's a good match. I would love to see what the Nano will actually look like.

http://static.zooomr.com/images/6e71d9d48e500bcd5c89dd0c3eae9685cba90b0e.jpg

Something like the MacPod concept would be awesome. Still sleek and simple but still plenty of buttons.

whoever made that is using the WAY wrong font. thats the garamond. that was SOOO last font. :p

w_parietti22
Jul 19, 2006, 01:59 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

... that the new Nano would be available in multiple colors...

Isn't the nano already availible in multiple colors? ;)

kresh
Jul 19, 2006, 03:32 AM
I've got a big family. Me, the wife and four kids. We have always been huge Apple fans. My wife and I have iMacs and the three older kids have Nanos and the youngest has a shuffle.

When my wife told me she wanted a Nano as well, I asked if it had to be a Nano, she are I are not really the keep up with the Joneses types. I had been seeing these Nano knock offs on eBay. She was skeptical, so I told her I would take it if she didn't like it and buy her a Nano.

I bought her this player: http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0blk1024mp022

I'm not bashing Apple, nor am I marketing for this product. But we were really impressed, although my kids laugh at it because it's not an iPod. The player has 1 GB Flash (It's really 1 Gig), FM Radio, Jpeg Viewer, Video Player (granted had to convert to AMV), Ebook reader (I love it), Tetris Game and Voice recorder or FM radio recorder. The controls are not as nice as Apple's scroll wheel, and the software is not near as polished. The player shows up on my desktop as a flash drive and I just copy the MP3's, books and pics over, but I really hate that I have to use Windows (using VPC 7) to convert the video. There is not a Mac version of the video converter.

It uses a Samsung media chip and costs $75.00 delivered to my door. I'm hoping that it's the same Samsung chip that Apple is supposedly changing to.

For the life of me I don't understand why Apple doesn't add a whole lot more features to the Nano. I would pay $250.00 for this Nano knockoff if it had Apple's software, scroll wheel and used iTunes.

I liked it so much that I bought myself the Titanium version: http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0wht1024mp029

I know Apple already owns the market, but they would absolutely slam the door on future competitive products by adding some of these features. I was really supprised at how good the video was on the 1.5" screen. (hehe I load about 6 episodes of M.A.S.H at a time).

I love Apple's products so much, and I will never switch computers, but unlike my kids I don't have to have the hip player. I just sincerely wish that Apple would take this Nano knock off, incorporate the features and put the Apple pizzaz on it.

Sorry for writing a book, and I understand if you flame. I'm really not trying to promote any other player, nor bash Apple in any way.

dernhelm
Jul 19, 2006, 07:13 AM
not at WWDC. developers, not consumers.

maybe around a week later methinks.

EDIT:
oh, and the game thing, would be cool :rolleyes:

Unless of course, they are announcing to developers of Nintendo games what they'll want to do to make sure they can be played on the new iPods....

:p

ezekielrage_99
Jul 19, 2006, 07:27 AM
I've come to the conclusion with Apple always expect the unexpected and personally I think we will see a new iPod, new PowerMac (Mac Pro?) and maybe another little Apple surprise at WWDC this August.

A new iPod would be sweet because I need a new one ;)

j-a-x
Jul 19, 2006, 07:32 AM
The game-pad picture looks just like the COLECO VISION controller!!!
(at least the one labeled iPod phone does).

peharri
Jul 19, 2006, 08:04 AM
Ok, first off, this is, like the Movie Rental thing yesterday, complete BS.

Complete is probably too strong a word, but the basic point is that TS has not heard this from an actual source who would know the facts here. How do we know? Because TS is claiming this will be announced at a developer's conference. This is a consumer device, and only the game playing part (which I'll get to in a moment) is remotely relevent to the audience. It will not attract the publicity it needs, and it will piss off the audience there if they lose one minute of Mac Pro and Leopard previews to learn about new multimedia products.

And the game playing part apparently requires an additional widget to be attached to the iPod. That doesn't make much sense either. That would be 100% unapple.

ThinkSecret seems to have a strategy at the moment which involves posting educated guesses about what Apple is about to do on their front page. I can play that game too.

EXCLUSIVE: Apple is prepping a new version of the iMac, to be released in September. Based around Intel's Core 2 Duo, it's entirely 64 bit. The machines will come with bigger hard drives and faster clock rates than the current iMacs that they'll be replacing. The new iMac will also be undergoing a name change to fit in with the new Mac naming convention: it'll be called the Mac 6400.

90% of the above makes perfect sense. It might even be true. However, the last fact tells you (well, that, and the fact I'm peharri, peharri for crying out loud, the guy who wrote "Red Tuesday") I'm making it up.

And that's TS's problem. I really don't know if:

1. A real Apple insider is calling them, but feeding them BS, in an attempt to discredit TS.
2. Apple employees are being fed BS, probably slightly differing versions, in an attempt to discredit rumour sites and root out who's leaking the info (picture Jobs in the Culputino black tower of doom, buzzards squarking, a hooded henchman guy at his feet handing over a folder saying "Did I please you mahster?", and Jobs reading the folder saying "Good, Good. The external widget and the WWDC. This is the version we passed on to all the employees whose surname starts with a "T".)
3. TS is making stuff up based upon edumucated guesses, but doesn't have the talent to figure out when it's completely wrong.

Alternatively, I may be wrong, but if so, there are going to be a lot of pissed off developers in a few weeks.

Most likely scenarios:

1. A movie store is in the works. It may go rental only, though not necessarily against Job's wishes (given the previous talk involved iDisks and such, a rental model might actually work better and be a more universal system that has simpler DRM, cross platform support, no unfufilled expectations of DVD burning, and work with the "one price" model Jobs prefers to the tiered pricing that would be more appropriate once prices start hitting $10 a movie) But we don't actually know anything about it, including what I've just mentioned, it's all speculation based upon the fact we know it's something Apple wants and the movie industry wants.

It will not be announced at the WWDC.

2. New iPods are in the works. Well, they're always in the works. AppleInsider's hints seem probable, but only because they've had a good trackrecord of late. They're unlikely to be launched at the WWDC. However, if they have something that interests third party developers, like the ability to play third party games, then we'll probably see some mention of an already launched product in the keynote.

- that is, no iPod at the keynote unless the iPod has already been launched and it includes third party developer support.

That's my guess and I'm sticking to it.

CellarDoor
Jul 19, 2006, 09:26 AM
I really hope all of this arrives before the Back to School rebate ends. Core 2 Duo iMacs and a new Nano? :D

My debit card is ready.

No kidding, I've been waiting for the merom mbp forever, which coincided nicely (as I fervently hoped) with Student Union. However, when I started hearing about changes to the ipod nano line up (Mg case, bigger capacity, etc) slated for october or november, I started getting worried, that I wouldn't be able to get a rebated one. I started coming up with schemes like asking an apple store to sell me the mbp in august with some kind of certificate for the next ipod, but I new that wouldn't work. This is pretty fantastic news, if its to be trusted.

stunna
Jul 19, 2006, 11:04 AM
New Nano Wii Connectivity? The Wii release isn't that far off, and it enables people to download NES games on it's virtual console, so it's a good match. I would love to see what the Nano will actually look like.

http://static.zooomr.com/images/6e71d9d48e500bcd5c89dd0c3eae9685cba90b0e.jpg

Something like the MacPod concept would be awesome. Still sleek and simple but still plenty of buttons.

looks just like this
http://www.geekz1.com/images/news/audiovoxppc6700.jpg

boncellis
Jul 19, 2006, 03:43 PM
...Most likely scenarios:

1. A movie store is in the works. It may go rental only, though not necessarily against Job's wishes (given the previous talk involved iDisks and such, a rental model might actually work better and be a more universal system that has simpler DRM, cross platform support, no unfufilled expectations of DVD burning, and work with the "one price" model Jobs prefers to the tiered pricing that would be more appropriate once prices start hitting $10 a movie) But we don't actually know anything about it, including what I've just mentioned, it's all speculation based upon the fact we know it's something Apple wants and the movie industry wants.

It will not be announced at the WWDC.

2. New iPods are in the works. Well, they're always in the works. AppleInsider's hints seem probable, but only because they've had a good trackrecord of late. They're unlikely to be launched at the WWDC. However, if they have something that interests third party developers, like the ability to play third party games, then we'll probably see some mention of an already launched product in the keynote.

- that is, no iPod at the keynote unless the iPod has already been launched and it includes third party developer support.

That's my guess and I'm sticking to it.

Ahh, peharri, you crack me up. You make way too much sense to be posting in this forum--but please continue, I love reading it!

You're totally right on this one. But, to play devil's advocate, an iPod revision could coincide with WWDC because it's relatively close to the beginning of back to school season. Remember, WWDC was pushed back this year somewhat.

But you're right about the likelihood of Mr. Jobs introducing it at his keynote address. However, perhaps his ace in the hole is the prospect of opening up a more robust iPod system for third party development...with the head start the iPod has on the competition, that could potentially spell doom for other competing devices on the horizon. Argo who?

I personally would love that, because then the iPod could be more of a portable media center than it already is. Improved video out capability would be awesome, in my opinion.

Keep up the good work.

BigEvan23
Jul 19, 2006, 04:09 PM
No No No No No.

There will be no nintendo games. Nintendo games require more inputs... Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, start, & select at the very least. The Nano has the multi-directional pad, yes, but only one button. Unless Apple changes the interface on the nano (unlikely), there will be no nintendo games.

Think, people, think!

-Clive

Clive don't you know anything...its Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A Start...jeez.

(J/K)

-Evan

tabbeus
Jul 19, 2006, 05:11 PM
Kresh....tried to pm you, is that thing the real deal? Looks pretty sweet. You have an email or something?

exabytes18
Jul 20, 2006, 11:14 PM
Yay! I have always wanted to play Nintendo games on my iPod. Mario would be great with the scroll wheel.... great thumb exercise! The games should come with the Mario theme songs... so you don't have to be playing the actual games to enjoy that outstanding music.

Seriously guys, let's make it happen.

asxtb
Jul 21, 2006, 03:16 AM
Clive don't you know anything...its Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A Start...jeez.

(J/K)

-Evan
I was thinking the same thing. But isn't it 'up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, SELECT, start'? I can't remember.:confused:

neonart
Jul 21, 2006, 07:31 AM
I was thinking the same thing. But isn't it 'up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, SELECT, start'? I can't remember.:confused:

Up, up, down, down. left, right, left, right, b, a, b, a, start... <blinnnng> 99 men...

playaj82
Jul 21, 2006, 08:02 AM
Up, up, down, down. left, right, left, right, b, a, b, a, start... <blinnnng> 99 men...

up, up, down, down. left, right, left, right, B,A Start
Bam - 30 Men

OdduWon
Jul 21, 2006, 03:35 PM
select start is for two players;)

OdduWon
Jul 21, 2006, 03:51 PM
i think the person who said that the patent concept pics could be the different touch screen modes could be on to something. though i still think touch screen on a full screen ipod is a bad idea due to dirt and scratches, this touch screen idea for games is great. the ipod seems just big enough to hold with two hands like a controler and the touch buttons would retain the simple look of the ipod. plus this would open up all kinds of new avenues for the ipod. like text typing , the i phone ( although the italk concept is a great idea), ichat pod and any other type of user interface required apps. pluse the interfaces could be designed to be anything since the whole front will be a touch screen much like playing mini games on the ds (mario 64 ds). this would be sooooo cool i hope this is what apple has in store for us.:D

Fatal Darkness
Jul 22, 2006, 04:59 PM
For the life of me I don't understand why Apple doesn't add a whole lot more features to the Nano. I would pay $250.00 for this Nano knockoff if it had Apple's software, scroll wheel and used iTunes.


They don't add a whole bunch of features for much the same reason that Nintendo isn't shipping the Wii with a DVD player, etc. They want to keep the product simple and focused on what it is designed to do: Play music (and now video).

If you really want your Apple iPod to have these extra features, you can always install, or even dual boot, Linux on it.
Go here for more information and instructions:

Ipod Linux Project (http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page)

Running Doom on iPod Linux on an iPod Nano:
http://opax.swin.edu.au/~reino/nanodoom.jpg

Playing video on an iPod Nano. (http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2005/12/linuxbased_ipod.html)