Quicktime Update Pending... iTunes? iPods?

[MacRumors]

Apple appears to be warning developers/distributers of an impending Quicktime update. The timing of which is simply limited to "the next few weeks".

Quicktime (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030109174556.shtml) was most recently updated in January 2003, and simply provided general quality and performance enhancements.

Other sources (of unknown reliability) tie the Quicktime update with the iPod and iTunes updates which have been expected in the near future.

Of interest... in February, this PCPro.co.uk article (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/?http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=38557) mentioned Apple, as well as other MPEG4 supports, pushing for Digital Rights Management (DRM) standards to be established for MPEG4.

MPEG-4's lack of DRM in comparison has meant that Apple had some way to go convince Hollywood executives that QuickTime and MPEG-4 are suitable methods of distributing movies.

Target date for establishment of this standard is said to be by June of this year. It is unknown if this will have any relation on this pending Quicktime update.

DRM could also have implications for Apple's distribution of AAC-encoded songs through their rumored music service (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/03/20030304095133.shtml).

[Tom800]

Whatever, bring on the new iPods and AAC, and the music service with massive selection.

Peace y'all.

[MacBoy88]

I hope we get a new iTunes, one that will work with all of the other iLife Apps. ( and Rendezvous )

P.S. I just got my new iBook and I am loveing it !!
P.S.S. Dose anyone have any good free programs that I can try out? If so E~Mail to Me. MacBoy88@qconline.com

Curtis,14, Illinois
(My First Post)

[Freg3000]

I am weary of all this DRM stuff. If I buy a song, whether it be through downloading it (legally or illegally) or purchasing it in a store in the form of CD, I don't want DRM hampering stuff I can do with it. Only being able to put it on one computer? Stuff like that scares me; I don't want to lose some basic privileges like that because of DRM.

About the QuickTime update-I doubt it'll be released with everything else. I mean, picture it like this: New iPods, iTunes 4, new music service.......and.......QuickTime 6.2? Doesn't seem like QuickTime fits all that well.

Plus it would just take up more bandwidth on the Apple servers hosting the new software. I am sure there will be many downloading iTunes and iTraks (or whatever the new music thing is called.)

JMHO

[mymemory]

All I can say is that I just edited a tv comercial with quicktime 6!!! I need to add a scene and Premiere (yes I was using it) was taking too long to render, so:
I took the scene, selected, close window, open main scene, select the insertion point, select "add" and that was it! in sync with the music and everything!

To be wise make me feel old:( :D

[Jaykay]

Sound Interesting, i wonder will what effect this will happen on the AAC, i was under the impression that Apple were pushing for DRM (for the most part) to be left out (of their rumored new music service) so that people could still at least "mix and burn"......

[Tom800]

Anyone else think the iPods should be black? Is so much more a music color.

[achmafooma]

[i]About the QuickTime update-I doubt it'll be released with everything else. I mean, picture it like this: New iPods, iTunes 4, new music service.......and.......QuickTime 6.2? Doesn't seem like QuickTime fits all that well.[/B]
As I understand it, iTunes is actually playing MP3's through Quicktime's infrastructure. In fact, isn't much of what's going on in a Mac dependent on Quicktime (at least as far as video & audio stuff)?

[bentmywookie]

Originally posted by Tom800
Anyone else think the iPods should be black? Is so much more a music color.

I kinda like the white color, although white or black doesn't make too much of a difference to me as long as they get rid of the finger-print lovin' metallic backside.

[iJon]

i think the ipod should be white all the way around. i think it would look cooler and i would feel better about taking it out of the case. then on the downside all the ladies at school couldnt use my ipod as a mirror.

iJon

[swahilibill]

i hope tey do, do you think we will get that with the new update here soon?


Originally posted by bentmywookie
I kinda like the white color, although white or black doesn't make too much of a difference to me as long as they get rid of the finger-print lovin' metallic backside.

[Silver Dragon]

Originally posted by Freg3000
About the QuickTime update-I doubt it'll be released with everything else. I mean, picture it like this: New iPods, iTunes 4, new music service.......and.......QuickTime 6.2? Doesn't seem like QuickTime fits all that well.

iTunes is based on parts of the QuickTime engine, the new music service will probably also use the QuickTime engine... So to put it simply, if they don't update QuickTime you may not be able to get DRM in iTunes and/or the new music service. QuickTime is the heart of any media on Mac OS. Yeah, I bet they will update QT. I just wonder if this will break Final Cut again :(

-SD

[beatle888]

Originally posted by Tom800
Anyone else think the iPods should be black? Is so much more a music color.


no.

get a cover.


i hate black devices. plus the dirt and body resins are more apparent on black surfaces.

[Tom800]

Could they do the same metal backing but make that black somehow - cold black metal, with a slight reflection but really dark? That would be so cool. They should at least have color options - look at mobile phones faceplates, etc. A lot of my music just feels wrong coming out of this white thing... It should have a more hi-fi feel to it, and nearly all hi-fi systems are either black of silver metal, which would also me good.

We know you read this, Steve.

Incidentally, I wrote macosrumors.com way before the iPod first came out essentially describing it to the exact way it came out and saying wouldn't this be a possibility for apple (I hadn't even seen any of the other HD mp3 players). I told them apple should make an 'iTunes to go'. They never reacted at all. But hey they're probably run by Apple to test ideas or something.

[AmbitiousLemon]

Originally posted by Jaykay
Sound Interesting, i wonder will what effect this will happen on the AAC, i was under the impression that Apple were pushing for DRM (for the most part) to be left out (of their rumored new music service) so that people could still at least "mix and burn"......

This is true (at least from the unsubstanciated rumors). as the rumor goes the only thing holding back the music service is apple convincing the music execs that drm tech isn't needed.

I would prefer to think that apple has continued to fight DRM techologies. Apple has butted heads with the bigwigs of the entertainment industry before and has one, lets hope they continue to fight the good fight and don't sell us all out.

[pyrotoaster]

iTunes 4, new iPods, iPod OS Update, and new Quicktime all at once. It would explain why those iPod updates weren't last Tuesday, or the Tuesday before that, or the Tuesday before that, or the Tuesday before that.

The iPod OS hasn't been updated in ages (and it's never had a major update), but a new iTunes would push that, especially if it had new features (like music downloading).

As for copy-protection in iTunes 4, I know Apple is against it. They really want to let us burn CDs and put mp3s on our iPods. (Thanks, Steve!)

[MacBoy88]

Originally posted by iJon
i think the ipod should be white all the way around. i think it would look cooler and i would feel better about taking it out of the case. then on the downside all the ladies at school couldnt use my ipod as a mirror.

iJon

That little thing dose get the girls. ( Thank god for bad hair days! )


:cool:

Curtis, 14, Illinois

[anand]

Anybody see the latest issue from Macworld. The y mention a version of Tivo that allows you to see your iPhoto library and iTunes playlist. I wonder if it will also allow you to see your MPEG-4 movies? This would be cool.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Tom800
Incidentally, I wrote macosrumors.com way before the iPod first came out essentially describing it to the exact way it came out and saying wouldn't this be a possibility for apple (I hadn't even seen any of the other HD mp3 players). I told them apple should make an 'iTunes to go'. They never reacted at all. But hey they're probably run by Apple to test ideas or something.

Nah. The only time MOSR posts unsubstantiated speculation as actual rumor is when it's their own unsubstantiated speculation :)

[Squire]

Originally posted by Tom800
Anyone else think the iPods should be black? Is so much more a music color.

When the first iPod rumors were circulating, somebody (can't remember who) made the following observation:

iMac -> PowerMac
iBook -> PowerBook
iPod -> PowerPod (?)

(Again, my apologies for not knowing the "author" of that post but I don't feel like going through 282 posts to find it.)

Anyway, for that reason, I think the iPod should remain white while the new "PowerPod"- if such a critter exists in Cupertino- could have the silver look to it.

Any takers?

Squire

[Wonder Boy]

I just downloaded QT Pro on the 8th. I really hope I dont have to pay for an update.
I like the idea of a darker iPod. Mayber the color of the hardware door on the new G4?

[boobers]

Apple needs to support both encoding and decoding DivX5 natively in QT6 . Everyone knows this is the best of compression codecs there is. Mpeg4 doesn't compete with DivX5.

[melchior]

DivX5 is good. but it's propriatory. like mpeg4, with already a significant investment in mpeg4, divx5 is simply not going to happen because it competes directly with the format the apple is trying to promote.

[squatch]

Originally posted by Freg3000
I am weary of all this DRM stuff. If I buy a song, whether it be through downloading it (legally or illegally) or purchasing it in a store in the form of CD, I don't want DRM hampering stuff I can do with it. Only being able to put it on one computer? Stuff like that scares me; I don't want to lose some basic privileges like that because of DRM.

About the QuickTime update-I doubt it'll be released with everything else. I mean, picture it like this: New iPods, iTunes 4, new music service.......and.......QuickTime 6.2? Doesn't seem like QuickTime fits all that well.

Plus it would just take up more bandwidth on the Apple servers hosting the new software. I am sure there will be many downloading iTunes and iTraks (or whatever the new music thing is called.)

JMHO

My thinking of why the new Quicktime update will be coming on the heels of the new iTunes/music service is to prevent those who are using QT right now to make AAC formatted music through such programs as "Make Mine MPEG-4" without any DRM restraints. And as many have said here, since iTunes utilizes some of the QT engine capabilities, perhaps Apple came to an agreement with the music industry to use some implementations of DRM with their new music service, including adding DRM control to QT as well.

Just my two cents. :)

[squatch]

Originally posted by melchior
DivX5 is good. but it's propriatory. like mpeg4, with already a significant investment in mpeg4, divx5 is simply not going to happen because it competes directly with the format the apple is trying to promote.

True, but DivX is a compression standard that can work well across the Windows/Mac boundary. I don't know that WMP supports MPEG4 currently, nor if Real does either. Someone help me with that. :confused:

[boobers]

QT is out of the dock here because it can't support DivX among others, mPlayer is the player of choice now. Formats is supports: MPEG 1-4, DivX, AVI, ASF, Ogg Vorbis, RealMedia, QuickTime Movie, MPEG layer 1-3, AC3, WindowsMediaAudio.

I like this player better than VideoLan. VLC gimps out my audio but it still useful for some files.

to see what a real media player can do, download mPlayer:
http://versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=16623&db=mac

[melchior]

realone supports mp4 and divx5. quicktime is just like wmp and real. it has it's own format that's like 15 years old and is renovated every once in a while. the difference is quicktime is better. mac os x makes use of it's engine constantly and it is an integral part of the a/v system. this is both a good and bad thing. good, everything is centralised and compatible. bad, quicktime is not exactly optismised code in my opinion. although, the recent update was a good improvement to video. while audio and still images performace lags.

plugins will always be available. use them. i really don't see apple taking on divx5.

[Nermal]

Originally posted by squatch
True, but DivX is a compression standard that can work well across the Windows/Mac boundary. I don't know that WMP supports MPEG4 currently, nor if Real does either. Someone help me with that. :confused:

Don't know about WiMP, but Real supports MPEG4. The RealServer will even stream it!

[melchior]

i agree boobers (what's with that name?)

mplayer rocks my world i just wish it would play the playlist through. (maybe i am missing something)

[AmbitiousLemon]

boobers - Quicktime does support divx. Just download the plugin and drop it in the quicktime folder.

interesting note about MS and mpeg4 here (http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=1792)
MPEG-4 for movie playback will be the centerpiece of a new phone that BenQ plans to release in the second half of 2003. BenQ is working with Microsoft on its unreleased Media-to-Go OS, which will run on the phone.

[melchior]

ambitiouslemon> boobers is right about divx. the codec is there, but quicktime doesn't work well with it. the fourcc codes need to be set differently and often needs new headers as div3 to play properly. this is not quicktimes fault.

[boobers]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
boobers - Quicktime does support divx. Just download the plugin and drop it in the quicktime folder.

Not without pi$$ing around with divxdoctor..i got no time for that.
Don't get me wrong. I don't blame Apple, but there are better players out there that can deal with divx and ogg formats better than QT6.

[boobers]

Originally posted by melchior
ambitiouslemon> boobers is right about divx. the codec is there, but quicktime doesn't work well with it.

Unfortunately it can only be called a DEC since it doesn't enCOde. That really burns my ass.

[AmbitiousLemon]

Originally posted by boobers
Not without pi$$ing around with divxdoctor..i got no time for that.

actually you dont need divxdoctor.

not saying QT is the best or anything, but it can play divx. divx files dont need to be converted to 3vix. and those are the facts.

[melchior]

<strikethrough>codec</strikethrough>

quicktime uses 'plugins' =)

[boobers]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon

not saying QT is the best or anything, but it can play divx. divx files dont need to be converted to 3vix. and those are the facts.

Well i have divx,3ivx plugins installed and it won't play any of the divX files i have..so tell me what i am doing wrong? QT either crashes or the audio is gimped..as usual.
I believe its the mp3 audio it has problems with, AC3 too..whatever..QT can't play these lemon.

To boot, there are free mpeg2 encoders and decoders out there, also free fullscreen players(mplayer,VLC) Why would you want to use QT6 when there are free options?

[AmbitiousLemon]

Originally posted by boobers
To boot, there are free mpeg2 encoders and decoders out there, also free fullscreen players(mplayer,VLC) Why would you want to use QT6 when there are free options?

like i said before im not saying it is the best but dont bad mouth it by making stuff up. qt does play divx. 3vix isnt needed. its that simple.

[boobers]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
like i said before im not saying it is the best but dont bad mouth it by making stuff up. qt does play divx. 3vix isnt needed. its that simple.
Sure it will play it, but not with audio! Quicktime really is useless for DivX. I just tried it on 5 divX movies and not a single bit of audio on any of them and one crashed QT6. So there ya have it folks, real world facts...cold hard facts about Quicktime 6.
No divx playback
Pay for Fullscreen? (what planet are you on Steve?)
Pay for Mpeg2
Until Apple fixes these things i can do with out QT in the dock.
If you can tell me otherwise Lemon i'll just assume your not in the know.

[AmbitiousLemon]

i have well over 1000 divx movies and they all play in qt with audio.

stop being rude.

[boobers]

How do you play your Divx movies in Quicktime?

[AmbitiousLemon]

Originally posted by boobers
How do you play your Divx movies in Quicktime?

usually i double click, though sometimes qt is already open and i just open from the file menu.

but really lets get back on topic here people.

remember quicktime update is coming? thats why we all first posted here. if you are still interested in hwo to get your divx files to play do a search, there are tons of threadds on te subject.

if apple really does release updates to quicktime and their iapps that incorporate DMR technology it really would be quite a change of direction from them. i really dont think apple would abandone this stance as it has been (and perhaps will become moreso) one of the reasons there have been so many people fleeing MS windows.

[melchior]

al> just in case it is the outstanding difference. which codec's (plugins) do you have installed to use with qt?

i'm just curious to compare

[boobers]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
usually i double click, though sometimes qt is already open and i just open from the file menu.
I think you forgot about the divX validator that DivX.com bundles with their plugin. Remember that conversion step? Its the same thing divX doctor does. I don't understand why anyone would put themself through this hassle just to use Quicktime when there are more compatible players out there.
If you have a movie with a WMA or AC3 audio then divx doctor or validator won't fix this problem.
I'm not an idiot Lemon, i know how to open a file, it is you who is being rude.

[boobers]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
if you are still interested in hwo to get your divx files to play do a search, there are tons of threadds on te subject.

I use mPlayer, as i stated before. its really no problem, i just think Quicktime is lacking it.From what i read its a bug in Quicktime.

[MaxArturo]

Sure hope so

[SunRiser]

Originally posted by boobers
[B]QT is out of the dock here because it can't support DivX among others

How can you put Quicktime out of your dock??? :confused: QT is a one of the key technologies of the mac... one of the "engine" if you prefere... you can't either put in or out the dock... Quicktime is everywhere in your Mac... :rolleyes:

You may refere to the non-well-named "Quicktime Player"... If you prefere another QT player, just d/l it :) And btw, the "QT Player" in pro version can do much more thing like simple editing (use it instead of iMovie or FCP for fast and dirty etiding) or export (instead of Cleaner for example...). QT Player is not just a player...

MPlayer is a wonderfull player (especially in it's CLI version) for anything except QT movies ;)
and i have both QT Player and MPlayer in my dock

my 2 cts

Edit: Fullscreen player is free for quicktime... just d/l (check versiontracker.com) and use another player that give you fullscreen playback for free... You don't have to use "QT Player" for everything ;)

[boobers]

Originally posted by SunRiser
How can you put Quicktime out of your dock??? :confused: QT is a one of the key technologies of the mac... one of the "engine" if you prefere... you can't either put in or out the dock... Quicktime is everywhere in your Mac... :rolleyes:

You may refere to the non-well-named "Quicktime Player"... If you prefere another QT player, just d/l it :) And btw, the "QT Player" in pro version can do much more thing like simple editing (use it instead of iMovie or FCP for fast and dirty etiding) or export (instead of Cleaner for example...). QT Player is not just a player...

MPlayer is a wonderfull player (especially in it's CLI version) for anything except QT movies ;-)
and i have both QT Player and MPlayer in my dock

my 2 cts


True it is integral..but any mpeg,mov or AVI has the QT icon so it opens default with QT anyways. :rolleyes:
so i just open the file from there instead of dragging to the dock. I like a trim dock with big icons(i also don't have the sysprefs in the dock)..QT seems like dock clutter when i don't use it much for playing, but yes its a great little quick & dirty editor , no doubt about it.

[Windowlicker]

DivX5 is good, yes, but does it support streaming? Watching Steve's Keynotes through mpeg4 broadcast works just fine and the picture quality is pretty good..

Anyway if Apple sets up the music service, I really hope it's AAC and not Mp3 or anything else — just as rumored.

[Windowlicker]

...and to add my 2c to the player topic:

MPlayer is very good with divx, but QT gives you better picture quality (at least with the 3ivx 4.x plugin). You just need to rip the mp3 stream off the divx with Divx Tool and then add it to the movie in quicktime.

I know it's such a hassle especially if you're gonna watch the movie only once, but the picture is better. I don't know how they've used QT in the quality comparison on MPlayer's web site where they have those pics of QT, MPlayer and VLC.. :Q

[squatch]

I must say, that I agree with everyone who thinks mplayer rocks. I tried watching several divx movies lately...and they all seem to use the DVD standard audio format of AC3...I tried for days to download different plug-ins into QT to play them....even tried to convert the AC3 sound file to something like mp3 format using mac3dec just to get QT to play it....I found something called ffmpegx and tried to use it (to no avail) and it was complicated to figure out....

Then I discovered mplayer for OS X and it plays just about everything I throw at it fine. Sure the controls could work a little better, but I'm sure it will be fixed in a later update. :)

Sorry to get off topic....

[boskie]

Originally posted by iJon
then on the downside all the ladies at school couldnt use my ipod as a mirror.

iJon

Do you let them take it to the toilet with them?

Now this would be a perfect oportunity to bring the P800 - which apple should of released as thier "iPhone" - into play with possibley remote recording capabilites and streaming straight to your mac via BT (if ya v close to the toilets or maybe hidden in a cubicle) if not broadcast it with AE & QT straight to your .Mac acc and then the world.

Er. Maybe i should find another forum to expel my fantasies, or just stick to HL.

[vanillamike]

Ya too much info :p

Mike

However, it would be funny if it was like the movie "Detroit Rock City" when the chearleader blows ass.

[arn]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
like i said before im not saying it is the best but dont bad mouth it by making stuff up. qt does play divx. 3vix isnt needed. its that simple.

AL, I gotta say... as far as my experience goes. Divx files do not consistently play under Quicktime with Audio with the latest Divx 5 codec.

And those at the official DIVX forum agree (http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php?topic=43981&forum=14):


Most DivX/AVIs will use mp3 for the audio stream which, when played in Quicktime untreated will be choppy if audible at all. This is a longstanding bug in Quicktime. There is several remedies for this:

DivX Validator (delivered with the DivX codec)
DivX Doctor II (from 3ivX, repaired files require the 3ivX 4 PR1 codec)
DivX Tool


arn

[Snowy_River]

Just thought I'd chime in. I went and downloaded mPlayer, and, while its compatibility immediately impressed me, I find that its functionality is rather disappointing. Ease of use is something that is definitely lacking. So, for any files that QT can handle, I'm much more inclined to use the QT Player, as it has such a wide array of better controls (such as Loop, various size options which are easily accessible, a progress bar).

And when I want even more options, including editting capabilities, I can open up my version 4 QT Player (which I bought a Pro license for), and then I have the added controls of Present Movie, Play All Frames, Play Selection Only, Loop Back and Forth, and so on.

I guess my 2 cents would be that QT is a lot more than just a player, and my experience is that it does an excellent job.

[AhmedFaisal]

Hopefully they finally fix that annoying MP3 audio bug :mad: I am sick and tired of having to fix my AVIs with DivX Doctor 2 all the time to watch them in Quicktime, how difficult can that be??? :confused:

Cheers,

Ahmed

[mangoman]

Originally posted by Squire
When the first iPod rumors were circulating, somebody (can't remember who) made the following observation:

iMac -> PowerMac
iBook -> PowerBook
iPod -> PowerPod (?)

(Again, my apologies for not knowing the "author" of that post but I don't feel like going through 282 posts to find it.)

Anyway, for that reason, I think the iPod should remain white while the new "PowerPod"- if such a critter exists in Cupertino- could have the silver look to it.

Any takers?

Squire

Excellent train of thought. I'd love to see it...some magical Tuesday, perhaps? :) My credit card's ready...

[BWhaler]

I used to hate DRM in all forms since I had a really bad experience with a Sony MP3 player some time ago.

I'm OK with some type of DRM as long as it is totally invisible to me. Let me rip, burn, backup, play the music I bought on any device I want without any intervention, and I don't really care if they watermark the music and stop me from uploading it to a P2P network.

The obvious problem is you can't really let me do the former while stopping the later. I hope the folks at Apple have figured out a way, because if this is the beginning of some type of Paladium-like sell-out to the music companies, Apple will lose a lot of customers.

[MrBillGates]

Audible.com uses a form of DRM that is very transparent to the user (and secure). Your license allows you to play content on multiple devices & burn to CD. If and when an Apple music service is rolled out, I'd imagine the DRM will be similar to what audible has implemented.

[AmbitiousLemon]

lets hope the music files come with full tags. my biggest complaint with p2p music is that you rarely find songs that have any tags let alone full tags.

i dont know how many of you know this but quicktime supports karaoke files. i wonder if they could bundle lyrics with all songs using aac encoding. not so much to sing along but so you gain a little bit of what you lose from not having the actual cd with cover art.

[MrBillGates]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
i wonder if they could bundle lyrics with all songs using aac encoding. not so much to sing along but so you gain a little bit of what you lose from not having the actual cd with cover art.

Embedding lyrics and/or jpeg of album cover is a REALLY cool idea! I don't think it would be very hard for them to do this (although it would increase download size).

[nuckinfutz]

I agree with Ambitious Lemon on this.

Files should have.


Full Tagging
Lyrics
thumbnail of CD Art


I wouldn't be too worried about the speed if users are on Broadband because for once we'll have HUGE Servers spitting out files quickly unlike the hodge podge of P2P. We haven't seen something like that since Napster. A refreshing change indeed.

[Spock]

I would like to see iTunes intergrate with Safari
like view your iTune's playlist in Safari. I play my MP3 files mostly while I am srfing the web.

[ebow]

If the files come with lyrics and/or CD booklet material and art, and have user-friendly DRM policies, I'll be quite happy to start paying for online music. Does anyone know how adding lyrics and image content fits with AAC as a file format? Do any audio formats support this sort of thing? I almost think I've heard of one, but I have no idea where...

[robotrenegade]

How much longer till the new ipod?

[melchior]

tomorrow





















...maybe

[sparks9]

Originally posted by Squire
When the first iPod rumors were circulating, somebody (can't remember who) made the following observation:

iMac -> PowerMac
iBook -> PowerBook
iPod -> PowerPod (?)

(Again, my apologies for not knowing the "author" of that post but I don't feel like going through 282 posts to find it.)

Anyway, for that reason, I think the iPod should remain white while the new "PowerPod"- if such a critter exists in Cupertino- could have the silver look to it.

Any takers?

Squire

No that's stupid. There is no need for a "PowerPod". And where does this "system" place the eMac? Will they make an ePod too for the education market? No.

[sparks9]

Originally posted by boobers
Sure it will play it, but not with audio! Quicktime really is useless for DivX. I just tried it on 5 divX movies and not a single bit of audio on any of them and one crashed QT6. So there ya have it folks, real world facts...cold hard facts about Quicktime 6.
No divx playback
Pay for Fullscreen? (what planet are you on Steve?)
Pay for Mpeg2
Until Apple fixes these things i can do with out QT in the dock.
If you can tell me otherwise Lemon i'll just assume your not in the know.

I agree 100% with you, QT can't play divx movies. I only have 3 movies on divx, but there where no sound on any of them (in QT). On my PC they played perfectly.

[nodmonkey]

Originally posted by sparks9
I agree 100% with you, QT can't play divx movies. I only have 3 movies on divx, but there where no sound on any of them (in QT). On my PC they played perfectly.

until Apple fix this DivX thing, I recommend using the simple and neat solution of MPlayerX. it allows full screen viewing too. Find out about it (and download from VersionTracker.com). Here's the LINK:
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=16623&db=mac

[bennetsaysargh]

I have just recieved money from my wonderful grandparents for my birthday today. This amount puts me at the mark to buy a current 10GB iPod.
I want an iPod update ASAP so I can finally buy one. I have been waiting to get one for the longest time and I want it right away. A new iPod OS update must also arise because it was never drastically updated. I also want something besies breakout on there because believe it or not, it gets boring after a while.
Along with a new iPod pricing or HD space sizes, I would also like an iTunes update because I can't remember when the last time it was updated was. AAC audio encoding right from a CD would be nice to go along with a new iPod OS that supports MP4 audio.
I am still waiting.
Please update very soon.
iWant my new iPod oh so badly

[Qball]

Originally posted by robotrenegade
How much longer till the new ipod?

Look into your crystal iPod and tell me what you see......

I think Jobs is waiting for at least two more Tuesday predictions by Macwhispers, Looprumors, Think Secret, and this esteemed site. Then he will have f'ed with the rumor sites enough.

[AmbitiousLemon]

Originally posted by arn
AL, I gotta say... as far as my experience goes. Divx files do not consistently play under Quicktime with Audio with the latest Divx 5 codec.

And those at the official DIVX forum agree (http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php?topic=43981&forum=14):

arn

Well you must remember that people only post on forums when they are having trouble and are seeking help. If you based MacOS performance by these boards you might think it crashed often, was slow, and was very hard to use, simply because you see so many threads asking for help.

I am not the kind of person to use an app just because it is apple (only apple apps i use are mail and quicktime). but i use quicktime because it works. you drop the codec into the folder and you don't have to think about it anymore.

i try mplayer and vlc when i see updates, and i continually find them lacking. vlc has persistant audio sync problems. and both mplayer and vlc have severe interface limitations that i am not willing to make. this is not to say that i do not find the projects worthwhile and interesting. i continue to check up on them because i am hoping to find something better.

use whatever works for you. i don't think any one app will work for everyone — we all have our own needs and tastes. but simply feel that if someone is going to point out flaws in an app that they should at the very least be accurate. the original poster who started this whole tangent was saying that quicktime is incable of playing divx files. this is wrong no matter how he wants to twist his facts. even if an occasional divx file needs some doctoring the fact is, that quicktime does indeed play the file. i agree with the poster about most of his complaints about quicktime (pay for fullscreen is idiotic), but you make a stronger case when you stick to the facts.

[Squire]

Originally posted by sparks9
No that's stupid. There is no need for a "PowerPod". And where does this "system" place the eMac? Will they make an ePod too for the education market? No.

The "ePod" could be a fancy scientific calculator that doubled as a voice-recorder for recording lectures.

Just kidding.

Squire

[abdul]

Hi can anyone tell me when he first ipod was released? that is the first mac only 5gb one (not to sound patronising). thanks alot

[Snorlax]

I just wondered if anyone knows when the new itunes(and porhaps ipod) is due to be released?

[bennetsaysargh]

October 21st or 23 2001 was when the 1st iPod was released (5GB only)

[bennetsaysargh]

just checked old archives.
October 23, 2001 is the iPod's birthday.