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MacBytes
Aug 14, 2006, 10:02 AM
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Category: Apple Software
Link: Get rid of Tiger Mailís lozenge buttons (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20060814110226)
Description:: Foad Afshanti has posted a disk image containing the ďde-lozengedĒ icons from Tristan OíTierneyís Cage Fighter, a utility (broken since 10.4.6) that removes the bubble from the buttons. The disk image also contains the buttons from Panther Mail and instructions on how to manually install them into Mail.appís package. However, there is an easier way. Andrew Escobarís Mail Stamps still works nicely.

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bigmc6000
Aug 14, 2006, 10:14 AM
Personally I like the "lozenge" buttons. It's a bit easier on the hand-eye coordination to click on a whole button than one that's just a little picture.

Eh well - to each his own...

telecomm
Aug 14, 2006, 10:43 AM
Yeah, the author of the Ars Technica article linked to on that site (which complains about the lozenge buttons) manages, apparently without realizing it, to explain a perfectly good reason for the lozenge buttons when he worries about the merging of the titlebar/toolbar.

The click activation regions for toolbar buttons are not always easy to predict. They often extend well beyond the bounds of the toolbar graphic itself.

...and so clearly identifying the clickable region for each button makes a lotta sense...

shadowmoses
Aug 14, 2006, 10:55 AM
The lozenge buttons are really cool, I prefer them,

SHadoW

brepublican
Aug 14, 2006, 11:42 AM
I could care less :rolleyes:

benthewraith
Aug 14, 2006, 11:48 AM
I use Thunderbird, so...

But a Widescreen mail option built in (not some third party thing) would be nice.

The Man
Aug 14, 2006, 12:34 PM
I prefer the buttons in Tiger Mail. They actually look like buttons, not just some icons floating around. Their function becomes visually more clear. And as you hover over them, they become highlighted. I think Mail is just a preview of things to come, meaning more apps will be introduced with this button style in Leopard.

jmsait19
Aug 14, 2006, 02:40 PM
"Not everyone likes the new lozenge buttons in Tiger Mail."

New? They've been around since Tiger debuted 1.5 years ago. It must be the same kind of "new" that "new music now" refers to when the radio stations play a 3 month old song for the 400th time.

wmmk
Aug 14, 2006, 02:55 PM
"Not everyone likes the new lozenge buttons in Tiger Mail."

New? They've been around since Tiger debuted 1.5 years ago. It must be the same kind of "new" that "new music now" refers to when the radio stations play a 3 month old song for the 400th time.
i think he means new compared to panther.

Brize
Aug 14, 2006, 03:04 PM
The click activation regions for toolbar buttons are not always easy to predict. They often extend well beyond the bounds of the toolbar graphic itself.

...and so clearly identifying the clickable region for each button makes a lotta sense...

Only the clickable regions in Mail.app aren't so clearly defined. You can click on the button itself or on the label directly underneath, but clicking between the two does nothing.

telecomm
Aug 14, 2006, 03:33 PM
Only the clickable regions in Mail.app aren't so clearly defined. You can click on the button itself or on the label directly underneath, but clicking between the two does nothing.

Clicking between them activates the button here. Anyway, the buttons do provide for a better defined target area, even if it doesn't encompass the whole clickable area.

dornoforpyros
Aug 14, 2006, 03:45 PM
I just wis they'd nuke the jelly bean scroll bars & form buttons in OS X. Even with graphite turned on they still stick out like sore thumbs

Brize
Aug 14, 2006, 04:11 PM
Clicking between them activates the button here.

Click just under the button and you'll see what I mean.

telecomm
Aug 14, 2006, 04:23 PM
Oh yeah... wow, how did you discover this? The inactive area looks about 2 pixels high on my screen.

macidiot
Aug 15, 2006, 01:03 PM
Personally I like the "lozenge" buttons. It's a bit easier on the hand-eye coordination to click on a whole button than one that's just a little picture.

Eh well - to each his own...


Well I wish Apple would provide some way to resize the close window, resize and hide buttons on the upper left. They are ridiculously small. And they have no padding around them.

They might be a decent size for a 15" monitor, but not for 20"+.

Can't stand them...

telecomm
Aug 15, 2006, 02:51 PM
Well I wish Apple would provide some way to resize the close window, resize and hide buttons on the upper left. They are ridiculously small. And they have no padding around them.

They might be a decent size for a 15" monitor, but not for 20"+.

Can't stand them...

Maybe resolution independence in Leopard will help with this.