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Timothy
Apr 24, 2004, 10:10 PM
I've been hanging around MacRumors for years now, but I find myself posting less and less. Why? The major threads tend to fill up way too quickly, and there is so much repetitive posting, that the discussions seem to lose my interest.

Here's a thought; why not regionalize MacRumors? Split us into groups, so that we can maintain some sense of community, we can slow the rate of posting on the big threads, and feel as though we can participate on some manageable level.

Anyway, just an idea. I think MacRumors has grown too large.

stoid
Apr 24, 2004, 10:15 PM
I think MacRumors has grown too large.

Don't go visit spyMac then. :p

I personally don't post in the 'big' threads too often, but that's the fun part about these discussions, just getting to read what other people think, and react to those thoughts in your own way. If macRumors split up into regions, you'd miss out on ideas that you might otherwise see. That's what the different sub-forums are for. Not to go off-topic, but it would be nice to have a forum for foreign languages that could be all in German or French or Spanish or Chinese or whatever for our overseas friends.

PlaceofDis
Apr 24, 2004, 10:19 PM
nice name Timothy, i like it because we share it LoL, but i totally understand where you are comming from, i go on posting spurts because there is a lot of repetition and once a thread reaches a certain size there really isnt that much more you can say about the topic, unless of course the topic has essentially changed, ect, but Stoid is right that we would be losing somethings too....i feel like this place is crowded sometimes, other times i feel like the only one here.....

kettle
Apr 25, 2004, 04:43 AM
You mean macrumours.co.uk?
:eek:

baby duck monge
Apr 25, 2004, 02:30 PM
there is a lot of repetition and once a thread reaches a certain size there really isnt that much more you can say about the topic, unless of course the topic has essentially changed

this may be true, but i think there is another reason that these long threads get incredibly repetitive: people don't bother reading what has already been posted (this is particularly bad when the post begins by telling you that they have not read the other posts and what they are going to say/ask will probably be repeating someone else's post. and it is.), or they just want to make a "me too" post. if people would take the time to read threads before posting, and would think about their post before making it, threads would be a lot shorter and would probably cover more ground.

just my thoughts about it, anyway.

MacFan26
Apr 26, 2004, 01:07 AM
Yeah, I don't often post in the really long threads either, I always figure that someone has already said what I was going to post. But it is good to have one MacRumors, it's great to hear from so many different people! :)

Mav451
Apr 26, 2004, 01:16 AM
I think repetitive posts is just an inherent disadvantage on multiple paged threads...its not just here. Take a look at other forums. I don't think there's one easy solution, I mean most forums already have the "No one-word response, please read the entire thread" tip at the beginning.

I think it'd be nice if 10 page threads, for example, at least let you select like the pages in 3-4 page intervals. Usually I see 1,2,3 Last, which forces you to use multiple clicks just to get to page 5 or 6. Maybe 1-3, 4-7, 8-10 or something like that would make it easier. I dunno.

stoid
Apr 26, 2004, 01:18 AM
I think repetitive posts is just an inherent disadvantage on multiple paged threads...its not just here. Take a look at other forums. I don't think there's one easy solution, I mean most forums already have the "No one-word response, please read the entire thread" tip at the beginning.

I think it'd be nice if 10 page threads, for example, at least let you select like the pages in 3-4 page intervals. Usually I see 1,2,3 Last, which forces you to use multiple clicks just to get to page 5 or 6. Maybe 1-3, 4-7, 8-10 or something like that would make it easier. I dunno.

you can change the number of posts displayed per page in your User CP somewhere

brhmac
Apr 26, 2004, 02:03 AM
Sounds like a good idea.

Timothy
Apr 27, 2004, 01:32 AM
I'd suggest making the various regional versions available to be seen; that way you could still read the aggregate total 1000 posts relating to the latest rumor of new powerbooks, but you'd have a "home" version with a population size that is much more manageable.

There was a time on MacRumors when you could know many of the posters, you knew their experience with the issues, and you knew the point of view they were speaking from. As the community has grown exponentially, this aspect has been lost.

It's not my forum, so I can't dictate what happens, but I am confident that if something like regionalizing the forum could happen, that it would accelerate the growth of MacRumors even more. The great comments will always surface; Arn can call attention to anything that provides meaningful information. But, at the pace we are going, it seems to me that MacRumors is just becoming overwhelming without providing a matching level of valuable content.

JamesDPS
Apr 27, 2004, 03:25 AM
I think there's too much repetition in threads, but that's the price we pay to hear opinions from all over, without which we would be losing out. Maybe if we could see more posts more easily?


:D sorry couldn't resist....


No seriously, I kind of like the large scope of macrumors -- even with as many users as there are, here, I end up in conversations with the same people all the time, and it's good to have as wide a range of views as possible -- I kind of like the idea of multiple languages but the only down side is then that people who would normally be posting in French or German (just examples) might not post in the same posts as people in the U.S., and it's definitely valuable to get the opinions of people in other countries, especially in the political forums.

Chappers
Apr 27, 2004, 03:53 AM
We've all been regionalized by Apple, lets not start doing it ourselves.

Diatribe
Apr 27, 2004, 05:13 PM
I'm kind of ambivalent regarding this matter. I do like the many opinions we get this way but it seems the bigger you grow the more you have 2 problems:
1. repetitive posting(when are the pb g5s coming?, which bluetooth mouse should I get?) I mean come on SEARCH before you post. At least most of the time. Please? :D
2. Short answers from newbies who want the fast post count and less answers from the people which you would like to have some from because they don't feel like going through a 1000+ posts thread or answering the same old questions over and over again. Or your thread gets lost after a day because there are 30+ new threads about the same stuff.

There are more shortcomings but these are the ones I dislike the most. Anyhow I am against regionalization just because I love multicultural/-national forums. If we start to separate now in different regions then I could talk to my neighbor about my new pb too. :D

We could open some kind of avatar club where only people with 'tars could post... damn i would be excluded I guess... bad idea :D

<edit: typos - I shouldn't be writing when I'm tired :rolleyes: >

bennetsaysargh
Apr 28, 2004, 09:31 PM
i don't like to post in big threads like when there's an apple announcement, but i don't think we should regionalize. sure there are many threads about "bluetooth mouse, any good?" and the like, but still, it's a good community.

virividox
Apr 29, 2004, 06:39 AM
sometimes i just look at forums to read what certain people say and dont post at all, if we were regionalized i would have the ability to do that to the same extent in the past.

then again maybe to stop multiple postings we could have sticky threads that cover topics that always crop up

like ram, what mice are good, comparisons of the ibook and powerbook etc

but then the best part of this forum i believe is not just the mac related stuff, cuz after a while that gets boring, but the current events and other topics and photography. if we couldnt access that area fully then it would be a shame.

j26
Aug 14, 2006, 02:55 PM
I think it might be a good idea to have regional forums for the international users on macrumors. It would be handy for these users to have somewhere to ask country specific questions without having hunderds of bemused Americans point to US solutions which may be of no use to us.

Obviously most issues people have are common to everyone and should go on the main boards, but say I want to ask about the Irish iTunes Store, or an Irish rebate offer, it's of no interest to US posters, and a waste of bandwith to have on the general boards.

The regions I'd suggest are;
* Ireland/UK
* Continental Europe
* Southern Americas
* Asia
* Australia/New Zealand
* Africa
But obviously these could be altered.

Anyone else think this is a good idea??

spicyapple
Aug 14, 2006, 02:58 PM
No. We can have a Paddyland sub-forum where you can be the only member to post there. ;)

tobefirst
Aug 14, 2006, 03:09 PM
And where's the North American forum? Don't we get our own? (:

For the record: I don't think it's necessary. I honestly don't see this being an issue all that often, and when it is, it is usually pointed out quickly and set on the right track.

Blue Velvet
Aug 14, 2006, 03:10 PM
No. All it takes is to put the country of relevance in the post title and maybe emphasised in the first paragraph.

Why duplicate identical forums across continents? If I have a query, I hope the best-qualified person might help, not the geographically-closest.

Forum proliferation: go with the Steve, don't add features you could withdraw later.*






*Except for Firewire on iPods. But that doesn't count, does it hmmm? ;)

j26
Aug 14, 2006, 03:12 PM
Ye have the whole thing at the moment, quit whining!! ;)
And where's the North American forum? Don't we get our own? (:

tobefirst
Aug 14, 2006, 03:15 PM
Ye have the whole thing at the moment, quit whining!! ;)
Not good enough. (:

j26
Aug 14, 2006, 03:17 PM
Not good enough. (:

Okay, a US/Canada region then!

Applespider
Aug 14, 2006, 03:22 PM
Let's not.

Even if you just made them subforums in Community, I think the site would lose something. Part of what makes MR fun is the variety of news and events that international users share - and if everyone was encouraged to stay within their little section, it would really detract from the richness of opinion we currently see.

If it's something relating to a non-US country, stick the name in the subject.

xsedrinam
Aug 14, 2006, 03:50 PM
Regionalism is as regionalism does and thinks. The idea is over-quill since each poster tends to reflect their on regionalism. There are those who seem proud to dismiss U.S. posters as trivialites with one, broad stroke. There are also those who are proud to have sinned against Europe. Shouldn't make any difference since there are always exceptions to the generalizations. Stay the coarse.....course.

j26
Aug 14, 2006, 03:52 PM
No. We can have a Paddyland sub-forum where you can be the only member to post there. ;)

Oooh, King of my own domain!!

Blue Velvet
Aug 14, 2006, 03:56 PM
Oooh, King of my own domain!!

No... master of your domain. :p

Kwyjibo
Aug 14, 2006, 04:20 PM
when I read the topic I thought this would include division of the continental united states suck as by time zone, but without those its not that great ...

MacNut
Aug 14, 2006, 04:42 PM
when I read the topic I thought this would include division of the continental united states suck as by time zone, but without those its not that great ...Ya have people in the states be able to talk to people in there own region could be cool.

bousozoku
Aug 14, 2006, 04:44 PM
No. All it takes is to put the country of relevance in the post title and maybe emphasised in the first paragraph.

Why duplicate identical forums across continents? If I have a query, I hope the best-qualified person might help, not the geographically-closest.

Forum proliferation: go with the Steve, don't add features you could withdraw later.*






*Except for Firewire on iPods. But that doesn't count, does it hmmm? ;)

That certainly makes the most sense.

Why are we re-visiting this idea? Isn't the last thread about this still out there?

2nyRiggz
Aug 14, 2006, 04:45 PM
Why is it that people want to split MR apart....sex.....age....country....I don't think its a good idea....MR is cool the way it is.






Bless

Macmaniac
Aug 14, 2006, 05:17 PM
The forum is getting huge already, now is not the time to further sub divide it..

iMeowbot
Aug 14, 2006, 06:28 PM
Anyone else think this is a good idea??

No. It's really that people need to ask better questions. People ask about iTunes problems that seem nonsensical because they're running it on Windows and neglected to say so. Or they have hardware problems but don't say what kind Mac they have. Or they just assume that everyone remembers that they are staying in a different country from the one in their location banner. Or they assume that posters' location reflects their nationality (my pet peeve).

For pop culture stuff, a quick Google usually clears up any puzzlement, so that's no big deal.

devilot
Aug 15, 2006, 12:29 AM
No... master of your domain. :pWhat is this, Mistress Velvet? :p

bousozoku
Aug 15, 2006, 12:41 AM
No. It's really that people need to ask better questions. People ask about iTunes problems that seem nonsensical because they're running it on Windows and neglected to say so. Or they have hardware problems but don't say what kind Mac they have. Or they just assume that everyone remembers that they are staying in a different country from the one in their location banner. Or they assume that posters' location reflects their nationality (my pet peeve).

For pop culture stuff, a quick Google usually clears up any puzzlement, so that's no big deal.

Assumptions are the bane of civilisation, aren't they?

Ask (properly), and you will receive.

mad jew
Aug 17, 2006, 01:51 AM
Australians know everything so we wouldn't need a fourm. Although, I guess we could put aside a spot where we could tell the New Zealanders what's what. They're nice people...

Blue Velvet
Aug 17, 2006, 01:59 AM
What is this, Mistress Velvet? :p

No. Seinfeld reference with a possible hint at the futility of the original question.

Lollypop
Aug 17, 2006, 02:35 AM
I dont think it will be a good idea.... as far as I know the Africa forum will only have 2 people... :o whats the fun in that??? :p

WildCowboy
Aug 17, 2006, 02:40 AM
I agree with most of the others in this thread. I really value the variety of opinions and perspectives I see across all threads here at MR. I worry that creating regional forums will result in users ending up in silos that will reduce the international flavor of the community. If you need to find people in your area, all you have to do is ask.

ZoomZoomZoom
Aug 17, 2006, 02:56 AM
I like the forums the way they are. Especially with the joke thread, it's nice to see some jokes from Poland, Ireland, etc.

Besides, you can't type in Chinese on this forum anyways :( All the characters get converted to question marks. So there would go my incentive to participate in an Asia forum.

bousozoku
Aug 17, 2006, 03:28 AM
I like the forums the way they are. Especially with the joke thread, it's nice to see some jokes from Poland, Ireland, etc.

Besides, you can't type in Chinese on this forum anyways :( All the characters get converted to question marks. So there would go my incentive to participate in an Asia forum.

中國

You can't?

ZoomZoomZoom
Aug 17, 2006, 03:53 AM
??

You can't?

That's weird, I was trying to put my post in partial Chinese and it would just turn out as question marks.

-edit: just tried again, and it's still showing up as "??" for me--

sjpetry
Aug 17, 2006, 04:13 AM
That's weird, I was trying to put my post in partial Chinese and it would just turn out as question marks.

-edit: just tried again, and it's still showing up as "??" for me--
Well were you asking a question?:p

bousozoku
Aug 17, 2006, 04:24 AM
That's weird, I was trying to put my post in partial Chinese and it would just turn out as question marks.

-edit: just tried again, and it's still showing up as "??" for me--

It figures. I seem to be the only one in these forums who can consistently turn out some language other than English. I may not know the language, but my setup always seems compatible.

Make sure that you're using an ISO character encoding and don't use Safari.

dmw007
Aug 17, 2006, 07:05 AM
Why is it that people want to split MR apart....sex.....age....country....I don't think its a good idea....MR is cool the way it is.


Bless


I agree, MR is cool the way that it is- no need to try and split it up. :)

MadMacxxx
Sep 22, 2009, 05:26 PM
Well, for one thing, regional forums help bring enthusiasts together, or realize that they're close to one another, and therefore they can arrange a meeting to help each other. I'm not so sure how effective or necessary regional forums are to a tech forum, but for car forums it's essential!

thegoldenmackid
Sep 28, 2009, 06:18 PM
Well, for one thing, regional forums help bring enthusiasts together, or realize that they're close to one another, and therefore they can arrange a meeting to help each other. I'm not so sure how effective or necessary regional forums are to a tech forum, but for car forums it's essential!

Quite a bit of searching. Even with the introduction of the iPhone, I don't really see this being a good idea.

marshallbedsaul
Mar 27, 2011, 03:33 PM
Not sure if this has been asked or mentioned, so how would a region section be.
Example
capital area
tri-state

ect... just a sub forum local users to find other locals ect...?

GGJstudios
Mar 27, 2011, 03:35 PM
Regional Forums?? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=224680)
Time to Regionalize MacRumors? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=69115)

kylera
Feb 11, 2013, 01:03 AM
I don't know if this was brought up before, and I am aware that a good number of members here are based in the US and UK, but how would having forums that cater to different regions or continents sound like?

For example, in the Asia subforum, members based in, say, China can trade information or discuss Apple-related topics that have relevance to China, like info on how to service their Macs or whatnot.

It's cool if my idea is shot down - I thought I would throw it out there.

arn
Feb 11, 2013, 01:32 AM
I don't know if this was brought up before, and I am aware that a good number of members here are based in the US and UK, but how would having forums that cater to different regions or continents sound like?

For example, in the Asia subforum, members based in, say, China can trade information or discuss Apple-related topics that have relevance to China, like info on how to service their Macs or whatnot.

It's cool if my idea is shot down - I thought I would throw it out there.

Not sure there would be enough interest. Seems almost like a thread could handle it in the interim.

eric/
Feb 11, 2013, 07:12 AM
Not sure there would be enough interest. Seems almost like a thread could handle it in the interim.

I think it's a cool idea. I've seen a ton of forums do it, though idk exactly how it would work here.

People could meet up somewhere and talk about mac stuff face to face, offer tech help, etc...

snberk103
Feb 11, 2013, 10:27 AM
I don't know if this was brought up before, and I am aware that a good number of members here are based in the US ...
For example, in the Asia subforum, ... or whatnot.

It's cool if my idea is shot down - I thought I would throw it out there.

Not sure there would be enough interest. Seems almost like a thread could handle it in the interim.

I think it's a cool idea. I've seen a ton of forums do it, though idk exactly how it would work here.

People could meet up somewhere and talk about mac stuff face to face, offer tech help, etc...

I would think a well titled thread would get it started, and then a moderator can be notified if people were posting 'off-continent' as it were. A slightly more rigorous degree of moderation to keep geographically off-topic posts from appearing. Some of us might like to lurk in those threads, sometimes it's a fun way to learn about other places.

50548
Feb 12, 2013, 12:47 PM
I think it might be a good idea to have regional forums for the international users on macrumors. It would be handy for these users to have somewhere to ask country specific questions without having hunderds of bemused Americans point to US solutions which may be of no use to us.

Obviously most issues people have are common to everyone and should go on the main boards, but say I want to ask about the Irish iTunes Store, or an Irish rebate offer, it's of no interest to US posters, and a waste of bandwith to have on the general boards.

The regions I'd suggest are;
* Ireland/UK
* Continental Europe
* Southern Americas
* Asia
* Australia/New Zealand
* Africa
But obviously these could be altered.

Anyone else think this is a good idea??

There is no "Southern Americas" - it's North, Central and South America - besides, Brazil for instance is not hispanic or "latino" (whatever that nonsense means, of course).

So it might make more sense to group languages together (in my view a much stronger integration factor) instead of lumping diverse countries from the same geographical area in a non-integrated community.

I for one would love to see that in MR; it would make it easier for people to discuss, especially when they are not fluent in English.

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Not sure there would be enough interest. Seems almost like a thread could handle it in the interim.

Worth trying - then you can check the results/success rate and revert in case it doesn't work. Think of it as a "stock split" for MR.

ChristianJapan
Feb 15, 2013, 05:06 PM
I for one would love to see that in MR; it would make it easier for people to discuss, especially when they are not fluent in English.

While I would be ok with regional/country sub forums I think English still should remain main/only language. Not sure if MR would have enough moderator in all relevant languages to keep the site under control. And it's a good way to learn/improve English (I'm trying hard :D)

SandboxGeneral
Feb 15, 2013, 05:19 PM
...besides, Brazil for instance is not hispanic or "latino" (whatever that nonsense means, of course).

Actually, Brazilians are Latino's. One of my good friend's is a Brazilian and I just texted him to clarify. Additionally, Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latino_(demonym)) advises the same.

"Latino" is more frequently used to refer more generally to anyone of Latin American origin or ancestry, including Brazilians