Safari v67 making the rounds...

[edesignuk]

Well, it looks like Safari v67 is out, there are already screen shots over in the Spymac gallerys; and I'm in the queue to download it now (;)). So has anyone else got it yet? (Other that u ADC guys)

edit: Anyone with any version of Safari may find this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22663) of interest.

edit2: After contacting the author of Safari Enhancer, they have updated it to work with v67. You can download it here (http://homepage.mac.com/gordonbyrnes/software/safari_enhancer.dmg). With this you can add/remove brushed metal, as well as various other things, full info can be found here (http://gordon.sourcecod.com/sites/safari_enhancer.php).

[mac15]

hmm, this version is alot nicer, tabs and auto-fill are in Safari by default now. Very cool!

[Jaykay]

Originally posted by edesignuk
Well, it looks like Safari v67 is out, there are already screen shots over in the Spymac gallerys; and I'm in the queue to download it now (;)). So has anyone else got it yet? (Other that u ADC guys)

Sweet.. What are the some of the improvements in this version? Also, you have a link?

[mac15]

hmm it still has that god damn Tab bug :(

Open a new tab and close it and the window reseizes . I wish it kept it normal size

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by Jaykay
Sweet.. What are the some of the improvements in this version? Also, you have a link?
We can't talk warez here, get me on iChat ;) (see profile)

Yeah, it seems better, tabs are now included as default with proper prefs, and it seems faster too.

[melchior]

it's a good build. autocomplete forms are better and external links (from mail, etc...) open in tabs of the current window.

safari is going to be good after all. shame on me for doubting. it remains to be seen if chimera will really be over-shadowed, at the moment it still conforms to standards better than safari. wait, i meant to say camino. still getting used to the name change:D

[Mr. Anderson]

Why is Apple putting out so many versions and not making it publicly available? Are they waiting for something, or will this go through the testing and come out with v70 for everyone else eventually?

Very strange, cause they have to know that its relatively easy to get online.

D

[melchior]

my guess on their thoughts, go something like this...

build v60 was a good fundamental build

with v64 things got a little more drastic. the evolution of tabs and autocomplete has taken many obvious steps. despite calling all safari build's beta. you could say v60 is a beta a build, like a significant beta, while v62 v64 and v67 are more like interim builds until those features being tested are complete.

v60 was basic feature complete and v70(???) will be tab & autocomplete feature complete...

my opinion anyway... and there are probably flaws in my thinking. oh well.

200th post!

[melchior]

someting else about this build with the tabs, they no longer show up as brushed metal using skins, which is good, since they were the only bit still brushed metal in previous builds. hating brushed metal with a passion, as i do. hate aqua too =)

[edesignuk]

My god! I can't tell you how much of an improvement this is! I have been using it all afternoon, opening and closing tabs, accessing multiple websites in separate tabs etc. And doing all of this has also been MUCH faster than it was in v64, and not a single crash :D Now I think it can compete with Camino 0.7.

I really think Apple should release every build they make, everyone knows and understands that this is a beta and will accept any flaws. Releasing regular updates will no doubt keep the interest of many more users in the quickly developing browser. Also having more users using and testing the latest builds will surly provide more useful feedback for the developers, what's the point in them receiving bug reports from an outdated beta?

Nice job so far Apple, now all you need to do is let the rest of the world in on this build, C'MON! :rolleyes:

[crushrus]

thanks.
you know who you are.
;)

[bennetsaysargh]

i have safari v67, and it is way way better.
i would be happy to share it, but
1)i don't have a server to put it on
2)apple would probably get very mad

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh

i would be happy to share it, but
1)i don't have a server to put it on

IMPORTANT!
On this note, anyone who does have the file and the webspace, PLEASE do not post any links (either that u got from me or another source) to download v67, I don't want this thread getting closed down for breaking the forum rules. Thanks.

[SBG88]

Autofill still needs some work. Have not had any luck with it. Hopefully, that cookie fix is not in this version. Overall, looking good but does not work with Citibank as of yet.

[MetallicPenguin]

another thing there are no more graphic glitches (there used to be some at the bottom of the page)

cool

[edesignuk]

Another thing...MacRumors seems to render correctly (e.g. tables line up properly) :D

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by edesignuk
IMPORTANT!
On this note, anyone who does have the file and the webspace, PLEASE do not post any links (either that u got from me or another source) to download v67, I don't want this thread getting closed down for breaking the forum rules. Thanks.
:waits patiently for you to sign on AIM/AOL:
:D

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MrMacman
:waits patiently for you to sign on AIM/AOL:
:D
...already am signed on...:rolleyes:...but won't be for much longer, almost bed time :D

[macfreak2000]

I have it on my webspace, so either PM me or IM me through iChat at mac1marc to get the web address.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by edesignuk
...already am signed on...:rolleyes:...but won't be for much longer, almost bed time :D

I put you on my list but it says your no on, check that you don't block outsiders (me) who have never IM'ed you before.
Mrmacman23 <--- Adium (AIM)

[macfreak2000]

Sorry guys. Took the link down because of some asshole on SpyMac.com named djjuice who reported me.

Yell at him for me, will ya? ;)

[Awimoway]

Originally posted by macfreak2000
Yell at him for me, will ya? ;)

Did what I could.

And I'm not having much luck with autofill either. Does the debug menu matter any, now that autofill is part of Safari's prefs? I have both autofill options activated under debug.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Awimoway
Did what I could.

And I'm not having much luck with autofill either. Does the debug menu matter any, now that autofill is part of Safari's prefs? I have both autofill options activated under debug.

Autofill is automatically on, I'm having some problems too but it works once you use it the 3ed time. :D
I have access to de-bug menu, nothing too special.

[voyagerd]

safari is no longer making rounds...


you killed it!!!!:mad: :mad:

[FelixDerKater]

When can we expect another public beta?

[Steradian]

Hehe, anyone remember that thread where "djjuice" said that they never had bulids with an odd number :D anyway, I wanna get my hands on a copy of this, I am fooling w/ v64 and I am content for now....but when will they give us (public) something even more stable....

[sparkleytone]

so far v67 appears much more stable than v64. v64 was probably the most unstable build to have been leaked yet. it would crash at least twice a day for me.

[Awimoway]

v67 has crashed once for me tonight. v62 almost never did, so it's not a great sign, as far as I'm concerned. (v64 didn't last more than a couple of days, it was so bad.)

Force quit didn't even work and I had to force restart my computer (good thing I'm not an uptime phreak), but force quit has been troublesome ever since 10.2.4.

[sparkleytone]

forgot to mention ALOT of layout bugs have been fixed. all vBulletin board such as this one now render correctly without the vertical lines being all over the place.

as far as making a program quit, if safari just wont quit, drop into the terminal and 'killall Safari'

[Awimoway]

Everything froze. I couldn't have pulled up Terminal if I'd wanted to. Even the beachball spun eerily slower than usual.

It was a Blackboard site, and the site itself has not been rendering properly in Safari since v62 at least (I can't remember beyond that). I get a garbled paragraph of kanji (sp?) instead of what should be there (tables, in English).

But, yeah, tables look much times better.

[alset]

Originally posted by dukestreet
Why is Apple putting out so many versions and not making it publicly available? Are they waiting for something, or will this go through the testing and come out with v70 for everyone else eventually?

Very strange, cause they have to know that its relatively easy to get online.

D

I figure they are watching user response on the web. They've already made it very clear that they are paying attention to the rumor sites. I'm sure they want the next official release to be something to users take notice.

Apple, if you are reading this and looking for feedback, give me an option to make it AQUA! And send me a free PB. Or maybe just buy me some ice cream.

Dan

[digitalgiant]

the brushed metal look was cool for about 15 minutes,,,,,,3 years ago. Blaaaaaaaaaaa. Get real. Also,, I have drank almost a whole bottle of Crown Royal tonight,,, so please forgive my bad grammer. But brushed metal looks like crap. Its played out like Ferrbies and lame ass Japaness cartoones. Fix it and i might switch from Camino.

Chuck T

PS,,,, is there a way to skin Safari?

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by digitalgiant
the brushed metal look was cool for about 15 minutes,,,,,,3 years ago. Blaaaaaaaaaaa. Get real. Also,, I have drank almost a whole bottle of Crown Royal tonight,,, so please forgive my bad grammer. But brushed metal looks like crap. Its played out like Ferrbies and lame ass Japaness cartoones. Fix it and i might switch from Camino.

Chuck T

PS,,,, is there a way to skin Safari?
Dude, READ my first post! I have put a link to how you can remove the brushed metal look :rolleyes:

[bennetsaysargh]

safari is no longer making rounds...

you killed it!!!!

confused is me

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
confused is me
He pulled the link from himself.
Drop me a line and post your e-mail and I'll get back to you. ;)

[Snowy_River]

Well, I'm not as impressed as I might be. There is a simple page of text on my web site (my resume, to be precise) that Safari has yet to render correctly. v0.67 does a better job than earlier versions, but it still fails to turn off the bold on the text. (Earlier versions failed to turn off both the bold and the underline.)

Also, v0.67 doesn't handle my opening page very well at all. It loads the page, then at the last minute it changes to a page of gobbledigook. I checked it with v0.60, and it seems to handle it just fine. [Okay, I just reloaded the opening page in v0.67, and it did in fact display it correctly. However, the initial problem makes me somewhat dubious.]

BTW, has anyone else noticed that v0.67 is almost twice as big as the previous versions? What does it do that takes that much more code?!?

[sparkleytone]

Originally posted by Snowy_River
Well, I'm not as impressed as I might be. There is a simple page of text on my web site (my resume, to be precise) that Safari has yet to render correctly. v0.67 does a better job than earlier versions, but it still fails to turn off the bold on the text. (Earlier versions failed to turn off both the bold and the underline.)

Also, v0.67 doesn't handle my opening page very well at all. It loads the page, then at the last minute it changes to a page of gobbledigook. I checked it with v0.60, and it seems to handle it just fine. [Okay, I just reloaded the opening page in v0.67, and it did in fact display it correctly. However, the initial problem makes me somewhat dubious.]

BTW, has anyone else noticed that v0.67 is almost twice as big as the previous versions? What does it do that takes that much more code?!?

not to be offensive, but thats more your fault than Safari's. in fact its very much along the same lines as Hyatt has been blogging about.

Get rid of the <B> in this line:

<P><B><U><TABLE COOL WIDTH="750" HEIGHT="1177" BORDER="0"

it works fine after that. the fact that the underline now turns off even tho it shouldn't be there either just goes to show that they are having to fix bad code.

the reason the safari app is bigger now is due to included localizations.

[jholzner]

I downloaded v67 ealier today. Tabs and autofill are pretty cool but not done yet, that's for sure. I have a lot of problems getting pages to render correctly. When I try to open up CNN.com in a tab it doesn't render correctly at all...almost no info shows up. I deleted it already and am sticking with v62 until Apple formally releases a new public beta. I didn't intend on using it full time anyway (v67 that is) just wanted to see the progression.

[macfreak2000]

cnn.com still looks its best for me when I open it in a tab with v67.

[Awimoway]

The autofill icon--the one on the toolbar, not the one in Safari prefs--looks out of place. All the other icons are much more abstract.

(Hey, at least I don't have a problem with brushed metal.)

[MrMacMan]

I sugest making the google bar smaller so they can space out the buttons, now that autofill is there. do I need like a super long text to search, no not really...
you can type all of this 'I can type alot in this google car it aint funny!!!!!!' On my 17" no matter how big you make the screen the box's stay in the same place. :(

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I sugest making the google bar smaller so they can space out the buttons, now that autofill is there. do I need like a super long text to search, no not really...
you can type all of this 'I can type alot in this google car it aint funny!!!!!!' On my 17" no matter how big you make the screen the box's stay in the same place. :(
You can change the size of the google search bar, just place your mouse between the URL and Google areas, and drag to resize.

[Snowy_River]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
not to be offensive, but thats more your fault than Safari's.

No offense taken. I hadn't even noticed that code. I use a wysiwyg web builder and only peruse the code afterward to see and drastic discrepancies, or if the page is rendering incorrectly. As every other browser I've tried it on rendered this page properly, I didn't think to look at the code myself. I've fixed it now, and next time I update my site, it'll be updated there.

However, as this wasn't an issue for any browser but Safari, I think that it's still something for them to improve.

[benixau]

as to the bug with safari tabs:
i found no problem when it comes to resizing. i do not have is auto select the newest tab.


as to the bug of the first tab always being active:
just wipe the preferences and then use Safari Enhancer v67 compatible to bring back the debug menu etc. SE also has an option for removing the metal inferface and bringing it back. your call.

if you want either of these (v67 or its SE version) email me at benjamingreenau@optusnet.com.au. Safari is 3.4MB as a .dmg.sit file and Safari Enahncer for it is 404KB as a .dmg file.

if you want, you know what to do.

[bennetsaysargh]

you better take that down before you get caught. i think that;s against the rules to be able to say that. isn't it?

[chmorley]

Seems better so far--more stable, able to remove the brushed metal from recessed tabs, and fewer rendering problems. The autofill is still dodgy, though. It won't remember my ESPN bracket even though I've changed the preferences to tell it to remember those sorts of things.

At this point, it's fairly easy to find in any of the places where you would look for software (such as peer-to-peer networks). The e-mail thing is against the rules, though.

Chris

[sparkleytone]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I sugest making the google bar smaller so they can space out the buttons, now that autofill is there. do I need like a super long text to search, no not really...
you can type all of this 'I can type alot in this google car it aint funny!!!!!!' On my 17" no matter how big you make the screen the box's stay in the same place. :(

ummm, all you have to do is click and drag the dot between the google seach field and the url field. problem solved.

[Freg3000]

No one get too excited, as I think this is a hoax, but while casually browsing through Acquistion (:() I noticed Safari v70. I can't download it, so I can't verfify that it even exists. I think it's probably a hoax, but you never know.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by Freg3000
No one get too excited, as I think this is a hoax, but while casually browsing through Acquistion (:() I noticed Safari v70. I can't download it, so I can't verfify that it even exists. I think it's probably a hoax, but you never know.
mmmm....I see v67 all over Acquisition, but no v70...I'll keep lookin' :)

edit: Found it! Well, the file anyway, remains to be seen what it actually is :rolleyes: If it ever begins to download at all!

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by edesignuk
You can change the size of the google search bar, just place your mouse between the URL and Google areas, and drag to resize.

Um... lets see I Don't want the web bar to get bigger. I just want to space the ICONS out. Not the google bar and or web bar.

There is no click drag thing inbeteen them.
Try reading that I want the ICONS spaced not just make the Google bar smaller hence making the URL bar larger.

Originally posted by Freg3000
No one get too excited, as I think this is a hoax, but while casually browsing through Acquistion (:() I noticed Safari v70. I can't download it, so I can't verfify that it even exists. I think it's probably a hoax, but you never know.
Lets repeat v67 is true. People have it, many people have it. v70 is fake because they aren't just gonna put 3 more builds out so fast.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Um... lets see I Don't want the web bar to get bigger. I just want to space the ICONS out. Not the google bar and or web bar.

There is no click drag thing inbeteen them.
Try reading that I want the ICONS spaced not just make the Google bar smaller hence making the URL bar larger.

You didn't even mention "ICONS" in your origional post, you said that the google bar was to big, and I offered you a solution that answered your question. I READ your post quite clearly.

[ethank]

I know its very beta, but is anyone else having problems with form-uploads not poping up the Find File box? Everywhere I go, Choose File doesn't do anything.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by ethank
I know its very beta, but is anyone else having problems with form-uploads not poping up the Find File box? Everywhere I go, Choose File doesn't do anything.
Yup, it seems to be a bug in v67 :(

[ethank]

Originally posted by edesignuk
Yup, it seems to be a bug in v67 :(

Well...bugger that! Oh well, still nice :) Camino open on the second screen just for stuff like this.

[FredAkbar]

Originally posted by edesignuk
mmmm....I see v67 all over Acquisition, but no v70...I'll keep lookin' :)

edit: Found it! Well, the file anyway, remains to be seen what it actually is :rolleyes: If it ever begins to download at all!

Same here: I found a file called "safari v70 (new!!)(macos X).dmg"...a simple title like "safari v70.dmg" would have sufficed...well anyway, when I try to download it, it just tells me that the host is busy/offline, but I'll report back if I can ever get it to download.

--Fred

[edesignuk]

Mmmmmm....don't think I'm gonna bother waiting any longer for v70, there is now another file...as you can see...

[Snowy_River]

Originally posted by Awimoway
(Hey, at least I don't have a problem with brushed metal.)

All this talk about the brushed metal look of Safari made me want to try it out in Camino.

Take a look:

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by edesignuk
You didn't even mention "ICONS" in your origional post, you said that the google bar was to big, and I offered you a solution that answered your question. I READ your post quite clearly.

okay fine. now try to answer if there is any way to do what I asked.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MrMacman
okay fine. now try to answer if there is any way to do what I asked.
Unfortunately I don't have an answer, short of playing about with Safari's .nib files with Interface Builder :eek:

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by edesignuk
Unfortunately I don't have an answer, short of playing about with Safari's .nib files with Interface Builder :eek:

Thats what I thought. :(

[gopher]

v68 just appeared in my website logfiles!

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by gopher
v68 just appeared in my website logfiles!

hmmm.... try to contact IP. ;)

[gopher]

Originally posted by gopher
v68 just appeared in my website logfiles
Originally posted by MrMacman
hmmm.... try to contact IP. ;)

The address is from Apple!

Must be an internal build!

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by gopher
v68 just appeared in my website logfiles!
Apple have released a v68 'core' (http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/webcore/) (whatever that means!), maybe that's why Safari ID'd itself as v68?

[Kid Red]

Originally posted by melchior
my guess on their thoughts, go something like this...

build v60 was a good fundamental build

with v64 things got a little more drastic. the evolution of tabs and autocomplete has taken many obvious steps. despite calling all safari build's beta. you could say v60 is a beta a build, like a significant beta, while v62 v64 and v67 are more like interim builds until those features being tested are complete.

v60 was basic feature complete and v70(???) will be tab & autocomplete feature complete...

my opinion anyway... and there are probably flaws in my thinking. oh well.

200th post!

You forgot v65 which intro-ed the autofill button making it official and the open in existing window. Not sure why no one really talks more about 65.