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funkychunkz
Aug 21, 2006, 09:56 AM
Of course Apple will make leopard available to PPC users, but will it ship seperately or with the Intel version? Or will they ship one package (a universal installer) that installs one universal OS, or one installer that decides which you need? I think the last is the most likely considering that many people will have both PPC and Intel computers to install on but won't want all the code for the other architecture.

Your thoughts?

Chundles
Aug 21, 2006, 09:58 AM
Of course Apple will make leopard available to PPC users, but will it ship seperately or with the Intel version? Or will they ship one package (a universal installer) that installs one universal OS, or one installer that decides which you need? I think the last is the most likely considering that many people will have both PPC and Intel computers to install on but won't want all the code for the other architecture.

Your thoughts?

Not a thought, it's fact. 10.5 will be Universal.

funkychunkz
Aug 21, 2006, 10:10 AM
Do we also know how it will install? I haven't watched the keynote, and obviously wasn't at WWDC, were any other facts disclosed?

JoeKarame
Aug 21, 2006, 11:59 AM
Do we also know how it will install? I haven't watched the keynote, and obviously wasn't at WWDC, were any other facts disclosed?

How do mean?

I'd imagine it'll install pretty much like all other Apple Universal software does...

Exactly the same as most of Apple's other software.

funkychunkz
Aug 21, 2006, 02:24 PM
How do mean?

I'd imagine it'll install pretty much like all other Apple Universal software does...

Exactly the same as most of Apple's other software.

As I said do people want an entire OS worth of another architecture's code? I was really asking how they would set up the disks: one PPC, one intel / dual layer DVD with both to install as one/ fits on two disks/ option to install only one etc.

treblah
Aug 21, 2006, 03:24 PM
As I said do people want an entire OS worth of another architecture's code? I was really asking how they would set up the disks: one PPC, one intel / dual layer DVD with both to install as one/ fits on two disks/ option to install only one etc.

I've *heard* that the Leopard Preview given out at WWDC is Universal and is only marginally larger (~1GB) than the standalone PPC/Intel Tiger installs. ;)

Teddy's
Aug 21, 2006, 03:57 PM
I think Universal code means that code "ABC" works the same under PPC and Intel. There is no need to create different files like "A" for PPC and "B" for Intel.

So, it is one file one size for both. It would be like talking in a language that a Japanese and a French can understand.

That is what I understood from the keynote from WWDC'05.

Warbrain
Aug 21, 2006, 04:00 PM
I think Universal code means that code "ABC" works the same under PPC and Intel. There is no need to create different files like "A" for PPC and "B" for Intel.

So, it is one file one size for both. It would be like talking in a language that a Japanese and a French can understand.

That is what I understood from the keynote from WWDC'05.

That's exactly what UB is meant to be. It's one language for both processors. There will be no Intel-specific components or PPC-components that you need to choose from when installing.

funkychunkz
Aug 21, 2006, 05:34 PM
That's exactly what UB is meant to be. It's one language for both processors. There will be no Intel-specific components or PPC-components that you need to choose from when installing.

While there may not be different files other than firmware, and a few other files like bootx (is blessing the same on intel?) there is additional code written in, not completely unlike language files. I think some code just works for both but other, especially deep rooted system files (mach. kernel and drivers, components). Monolingual actually can take out such extra code. After a certain numbers of layer I believe things can be written to be 'understood by both'. I was thinking apple might give you only what you need installed.